The killer did not use an AR-15...he used a Sig....

[Mikeoxenormous]

there is no civilian lawful purpose for this military grade weapon...

SIG SAUER developed the MCX rifle for America’s special forces.


While the SIG SAUER MCX kinda looks like a standard AR-15, there’s one major difference: it’s gas piston operated. Buffer and gas tube? Gone. SIG’s replaced them with a short stroke gas piston and a compact recoil system contained completely within the upper receiver. To provide the force necessary to stop the bolt carrier’s rearward movement and return it to battery after each round, the MCX features a pair of recoil springs directly attached to the bolt carrier. Because the recoil springs are housed where an AR-15’s charging handle would normally sit the charging handle has been moved slightly higher than normal on the receiver.

When you run a suppressed rifle the added back pressure from the silencer creates additional force to the bolt carrier, which makes the rifle cycle faster. That’s not good; it can become uncontrollable and cause excessive wear on the operating bits. The MCX has an adjustable gas system that changes the amount of gas being sent to the piston, controlling the cycle rate. The system’s equipped with a gas regulator that the shooter can adjust on the fly.

[NB: There are currently two MCX version on the market. The first (sold through Cabela’s) uses a self-regulating gas system that vents super-heated gas directly into the air to control the pressure. The latest and now official version uses a closed system manually adjusted from “suppressed” to “unsuppressed.” The official word from SIG SAUER: the adjustable gas system was done on request, but they settled on the manual system to make the civilian MCX be as close as possible to the military MCX.]

Gun Review: SIG SAUER MCX - The Truth About Guns

Sure there is. If I want one then I can buy one. The Founders were far more worried about an illegitimate government abusing its power than they were about an invading army thus the 2nd Amendment is about the ability of the American public to own the very same weapons that were used by the military's of the world. Including our own.

And based on the corruption in our government that is now demonstrated on a daily basis, they were correct in doing so.

You are a joke. You and a million losers armed with fully auto whatevers couldn't defeat our own army in a thousand years. That dream died just before WW1. If we ever really have to fight our own military it would last less than a week. Unless of course you can explain how a 7.62mm can penetrate an M1A1 tank's armor or bring down an F-18.

You poor saps who live in this fantasy world where minutemen still exist are just pathetic. Jesus H join the rest of the world in the present day, rather than the world of 1880 which is where you still live.

I beg to differ, you retard, those homosexuals who relied on Obama to keep them safe are the losers. They who just wanted to live their lives in happiness, were suddenly terminated because liberals look for tolerance to the peace loving religion. 20,000 more peacenics are coming in from Syria this year and 100,000 others have come last year. Do you wonder where they live? Will they tolerate you like you are supposed to tolerate them? Pull your head out of Uranus and WTFU(wake the fuck up).

 

[rightwinger]

yep.......hammers got it wrong.....

NARRATIVE FAIL: Orlando Islamic Terrorist Did NOT Use An AR-15

The rifle used by the Islamist terrorist in Orlando was instead a Sig Sauer MCX carbine, a modular, multi-caliber (able to swap to different calibers, including 5.56 NATO, 300 BLK, and 7.62×39) rifle system that sometimes utilizes STANAG magazines common to more than 60 different firearms, but otherwise has no major parts that interface with AR-15s in any way, shape or form.

So?

The dreaded AR-15 was not used.......accuracy is supposed to count in journalism.......and if anti-gun nuts can't even get the rifle right.....why should we trust them on anything else?

Obviously when he went to purchase a gun he asked the clerk what the best weapon was for killing as many homos as he could in a short period of time.

Nothing beats a Sig Sauer MCX carbine with a compass in the stock

Could I interest you in a 100 round magazine sir?
No mass shooting is complete without it

 

[Iceweasel]

yep.......hammers got it wrong.....

NARRATIVE FAIL: Orlando Islamic Terrorist Did NOT Use An AR-15

The rifle used by the Islamist terrorist in Orlando was instead a Sig Sauer MCX carbine, a modular, multi-caliber (able to swap to different calibers, including 5.56 NATO, 300 BLK, and 7.62×39) rifle system that sometimes utilizes STANAG magazines common to more than 60 different firearms, but otherwise has no major parts that interface with AR-15s in any way, shape or form.

Details details. Doesn't matter. AR is synonymous with scary rifle.

 

[dannyboys]

yep.......hammers got it wrong.....

NARRATIVE FAIL: Orlando Islamic Terrorist Did NOT Use An AR-15

The rifle used by the Islamist terrorist in Orlando was instead a Sig Sauer MCX carbine, a modular, multi-caliber (able to swap to different calibers, including 5.56 NATO, 300 BLK, and 7.62×39) rifle system that sometimes utilizes STANAG magazines common to more than 60 different firearms, but otherwise has no major parts that interface with AR-15s in any way, shape or form.

What is their source of information that this is the gun he used?

Like SWAT found the guns and dozens of shell casings on the floor of the gay night club like. Like Swat found live rounds which matched the guns in the back pack the shooter had on like.

 

[rightwinger]

yep.......hammers got it wrong.....

NARRATIVE FAIL: Orlando Islamic Terrorist Did NOT Use An AR-15

The rifle used by the Islamist terrorist in Orlando was instead a Sig Sauer MCX carbine, a modular, multi-caliber (able to swap to different calibers, including 5.56 NATO, 300 BLK, and 7.62×39) rifle system that sometimes utilizes STANAG magazines common to more than 60 different firearms, but otherwise has no major parts that interface with AR-15s in any way, shape or form.

So?

The dreaded AR-15 was not used.......accuracy is supposed to count in journalism.......and if anti-gun nuts can't even get the rifle right.....why should we trust them on anything else?

Which weapon do you prefer for killing first graders and homos?

I'm sure each weapon has its advantages

Future terrorists need to know

 

[dannyboys]

yep.......hammers got it wrong.....

NARRATIVE FAIL: Orlando Islamic Terrorist Did NOT Use An AR-15

The rifle used by the Islamist terrorist in Orlando was instead a Sig Sauer MCX carbine, a modular, multi-caliber (able to swap to different calibers, including 5.56 NATO, 300 BLK, and 7.62×39) rifle system that sometimes utilizes STANAG magazines common to more than 60 different firearms, but otherwise has no major parts that interface with AR-15s in any way, shape or form.

Well that changes everything for those who were murdered and their families , I am sure they will call you to thank you for that information

I wonder how many family members of the murdered gays wish their loved one had a gun on them that night instead of a fucking feather boa and the leopard skin thong?
Answer: 110% of them.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

yep.......hammers got it wrong.....

NARRATIVE FAIL: Orlando Islamic Terrorist Did NOT Use An AR-15

The rifle used by the Islamist terrorist in Orlando was instead a Sig Sauer MCX carbine, a modular, multi-caliber (able to swap to different calibers, including 5.56 NATO, 300 BLK, and 7.62×39) rifle system that sometimes utilizes STANAG magazines common to more than 60 different firearms, but otherwise has no major parts that interface with AR-15s in any way, shape or form.

So?

I think this says everything about the Obama homosexual administration.. FBI missed the warning signs — again

FBI missed the warning signs — again

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

yep.......hammers got it wrong.....

NARRATIVE FAIL: Orlando Islamic Terrorist Did NOT Use An AR-15

The rifle used by the Islamist terrorist in Orlando was instead a Sig Sauer MCX carbine, a modular, multi-caliber (able to swap to different calibers, including 5.56 NATO, 300 BLK, and 7.62×39) rifle system that sometimes utilizes STANAG magazines common to more than 60 different firearms, but otherwise has no major parts that interface with AR-15s in any way, shape or form.

So?

The dreaded AR-15 was not used.......accuracy is supposed to count in journalism.......and if anti-gun nuts can't even get the rifle right.....why should we trust them on anything else?

Which weapon do you prefer for killing first graders and homos?

I'm sure each weapon has its advantages

Future terrorists need to know

If it isn't a rifle, it is a pistol, if it isn't a pistol is a crock pot, if not a crock pot then a pipe bomb. Go for the bad guy , and have no repeat offenders....
I prefer a good Guillotine for those who wish to do EVIL. Put it on TV and show how easy the head separates from the body, and make sure you show the face of the liberal who was decapitated. Pretty soon there wont be any liberals left to do others harm.

 

[jon_berzerk]

there is no civilian lawful purpose for this military grade weapon...

SIG SAUER developed the MCX rifle for America’s special forces.


While the SIG SAUER MCX kinda looks like a standard AR-15, there’s one major difference: it’s gas piston operated. Buffer and gas tube? Gone. SIG’s replaced them with a short stroke gas piston and a compact recoil system contained completely within the upper receiver. To provide the force necessary to stop the bolt carrier’s rearward movement and return it to battery after each round, the MCX features a pair of recoil springs directly attached to the bolt carrier. Because the recoil springs are housed where an AR-15’s charging handle would normally sit the charging handle has been moved slightly higher than normal on the receiver.

When you run a suppressed rifle the added back pressure from the silencer creates additional force to the bolt carrier, which makes the rifle cycle faster. That’s not good; it can become uncontrollable and cause excessive wear on the operating bits. The MCX has an adjustable gas system that changes the amount of gas being sent to the piston, controlling the cycle rate. The system’s equipped with a gas regulator that the shooter can adjust on the fly.

[NB: There are currently two MCX version on the market. The first (sold through Cabela’s) uses a self-regulating gas system that vents super-heated gas directly into the air to control the pressure. The latest and now official version uses a closed system manually adjusted from “suppressed” to “unsuppressed.” The official word from SIG SAUER: the adjustable gas system was done on request, but they settled on the manual system to make the civilian MCX be as close as possible to the military MCX.]

Gun Review: SIG SAUER MCX - The Truth About Guns

silencers are big out here

why bother the neighbors when you are knocking off coyotes at 3 in the morning

"Silencers" are only on TV. They're flash suppressors.

naw they indeed suppress sound

 

[rightwinger]

yep.......hammers got it wrong.....

NARRATIVE FAIL: Orlando Islamic Terrorist Did NOT Use An AR-15

The rifle used by the Islamist terrorist in Orlando was instead a Sig Sauer MCX carbine, a modular, multi-caliber (able to swap to different calibers, including 5.56 NATO, 300 BLK, and 7.62×39) rifle system that sometimes utilizes STANAG magazines common to more than 60 different firearms, but otherwise has no major parts that interface with AR-15s in any way, shape or form.

So?

The dreaded AR-15 was not used.......accuracy is supposed to count in journalism.......and if anti-gun nuts can't even get the rifle right.....why should we trust them on anything else?

Which weapon do you prefer for killing first graders and homos?

I'm sure each weapon has its advantages

Future terrorists need to know

If it isn't a rifle, it is a pistol, if it isn't a pistol is a crock pot, if not a crock pot then a pipe bomb. Go for the bad guy , and have no repeat offenders....
I prefer a good Guillotine for those who wish to do EVIL. Put it on TV and show how easy the head separates from the body, and make sure you show the face of the liberal who was decapitated. Pretty soon there wont be any liberals left to do others harm.

View attachment 78081

I'm asking our resident gun experts

Which weapon is preferable for killing first graders or homos?

AR-15 or the Sig Saur?

Keep in mind you want to look like a real badass while you are doing it and you want to inflict the most amount of terror while maintaining the highest kill ratio. You don't want to waste bullets

So...which is it?

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Why aren't M16s with grenade launchers demanded to be available to the public, if the argument is that the population be armed as the military is?

yep.......hammers got it wrong.....

NARRATIVE FAIL: Orlando Islamic Terrorist Did NOT Use An AR-15

The rifle used by the Islamist terrorist in Orlando was instead a Sig Sauer MCX carbine, a modular, multi-caliber (able to swap to different calibers, including 5.56 NATO, 300 BLK, and 7.62×39) rifle system that sometimes utilizes STANAG magazines common to more than 60 different firearms, but otherwise has no major parts that interface with AR-15s in any way, shape or form.

So?

The dreaded AR-15 was not used.......accuracy is supposed to count in journalism.......and if anti-gun nuts can't even get the rifle right.....why should we trust them on anything else?

Which weapon do you prefer for killing first graders and homos?

I'm sure each weapon has its advantages

Future terrorists need to know

If it isn't a rifle, it is a pistol, if it isn't a pistol is a crock pot, if not a crock pot then a pipe bomb. Go for the bad guy , and have no repeat offenders....
I prefer a good Guillotine for those who wish to do EVIL. Put it on TV and show how easy the head separates from the body, and make sure you show the face of the liberal who was decapitated. Pretty soon there wont be any liberals left to do others harm.

View attachment 78081

I'm asking our resident gun experts

Which weapon is preferable for killing first graders or homos?

AR-15 or the Sig Saur?

Keep in mind you want to look like a real badass while you are doing it and you want to inflict the most amount of terror while maintaining the highest kill ratio. You don't want to waste bullets

So...which is it?

It isn't the AR-15 or the Sig Saur killing the first graders or homo's dipshit, if you place those weapons on a table, they cant harm anyone. But when you put a flaming left wing liberal nut job behind those weapons, then babies born in the womb or outside will be executed. Kill the liberal and soon there wont be any more crime...

60 Hard Truths About "Liberals"

60 Hard Truths about "Liberals"
Private ownership of guns is the single greatest symbol of individual power, and therefore is despised by Liberals.

 

[jon_berzerk]

there is no civilian lawful purpose for this military grade weapon...

SIG SAUER developed the MCX rifle for America’s special forces.


While the SIG SAUER MCX kinda looks like a standard AR-15, there’s one major difference: it’s gas piston operated. Buffer and gas tube? Gone. SIG’s replaced them with a short stroke gas piston and a compact recoil system contained completely within the upper receiver. To provide the force necessary to stop the bolt carrier’s rearward movement and return it to battery after each round, the MCX features a pair of recoil springs directly attached to the bolt carrier. Because the recoil springs are housed where an AR-15’s charging handle would normally sit the charging handle has been moved slightly higher than normal on the receiver.

When you run a suppressed rifle the added back pressure from the silencer creates additional force to the bolt carrier, which makes the rifle cycle faster. That’s not good; it can become uncontrollable and cause excessive wear on the operating bits. The MCX has an adjustable gas system that changes the amount of gas being sent to the piston, controlling the cycle rate. The system’s equipped with a gas regulator that the shooter can adjust on the fly.

[NB: There are currently two MCX version on the market. The first (sold through Cabela’s) uses a self-regulating gas system that vents super-heated gas directly into the air to control the pressure. The latest and now official version uses a closed system manually adjusted from “suppressed” to “unsuppressed.” The official word from SIG SAUER: the adjustable gas system was done on request, but they settled on the manual system to make the civilian MCX be as close as possible to the military MCX.]

Gun Review: SIG SAUER MCX - The Truth About Guns

silencers are big out here

why bother the neighbors when you are knocking off coyotes at 3 in the morning

"why bother the neighbors when you are knocking off coyotes(Or homosexuals) at 3 in the morning".

stop your projecting just because you hate gays

doesnt mean anyone else does

 

[rightwinger]

Why aren't M16s with grenade launchers demanded to be available to the public, if the argument is that the population be armed as the military is?

So?

The dreaded AR-15 was not used.......accuracy is supposed to count in journalism.......and if anti-gun nuts can't even get the rifle right.....why should we trust them on anything else?

Which weapon do you prefer for killing first graders and homos?

I'm sure each weapon has its advantages

Future terrorists need to know

If it isn't a rifle, it is a pistol, if it isn't a pistol is a crock pot, if not a crock pot then a pipe bomb. Go for the bad guy , and have no repeat offenders....
I prefer a good Guillotine for those who wish to do EVIL. Put it on TV and show how easy the head separates from the body, and make sure you show the face of the liberal who was decapitated. Pretty soon there wont be any liberals left to do others harm.

View attachment 78081

I'm asking our resident gun experts

Which weapon is preferable for killing first graders or homos?

AR-15 or the Sig Saur?

Keep in mind you want to look like a real badass while you are doing it and you want to inflict the most amount of terror while maintaining the highest kill ratio. You don't want to waste bullets

So...which is it?

It isn't the AR-15 or the Sig Saur killing the first graders or homo's dipshit, if you place those weapons on a table, they cant harm anyone. But when you put a flaming left wing liberal nut job behind those weapons, then babies born in the womb or outside will be executed. Kill the liberal and soon there wont be any more crime...

60 Hard Truths About "Liberals"

60 Hard Truths about "Liberals"

Why of course....Guns don't kill people....crazy fucking maniacs with guns kill people

So the question is...how do we keep crazy fucking maniacs from getting guns with the maximum firepower to kill first graders and homos?

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Why aren't M16s with grenade launchers demanded to be available to the public, if the argument is that the population be armed as the military is?

The dreaded AR-15 was not used.......accuracy is supposed to count in journalism.......and if anti-gun nuts can't even get the rifle right.....why should we trust them on anything else?

Which weapon do you prefer for killing first graders and homos?

I'm sure each weapon has its advantages

Future terrorists need to know

If it isn't a rifle, it is a pistol, if it isn't a pistol is a crock pot, if not a crock pot then a pipe bomb. Go for the bad guy , and have no repeat offenders....
I prefer a good Guillotine for those who wish to do EVIL. Put it on TV and show how easy the head separates from the body, and make sure you show the face of the liberal who was decapitated. Pretty soon there wont be any liberals left to do others harm.

View attachment 78081

I'm asking our resident gun experts

Which weapon is preferable for killing first graders or homos?

AR-15 or the Sig Saur?

Keep in mind you want to look like a real badass while you are doing it and you want to inflict the most amount of terror while maintaining the highest kill ratio. You don't want to waste bullets

So...which is it?

It isn't the AR-15 or the Sig Saur killing the first graders or homo's dipshit, if you place those weapons on a table, they cant harm anyone. But when you put a flaming left wing liberal nut job behind those weapons, then babies born in the womb or outside will be executed. Kill the liberal and soon there wont be any more crime...

60 Hard Truths About "Liberals"

60 Hard Truths about "Liberals"

Why of course....Guns don't kill people....crazy fucking maniacs with guns kill people

So the question is...how do we keep crazy fucking maniacs from getting guns with the maximum firepower to kill first graders and homos?

Execute them, why cant you fucking understand this. No you liberal lunatics want to put them in jail for the rest of their lives, but then for the rest of their lives they want to escape and do it again. If not guns, then bombs, if not bombs, then knives, you liberals are such stupid people.

 

[eflatminor]

So the question is...how do we keep crazy fucking maniacs from getting guns with the maximum firepower to kill first graders and homos?

End the notion of a free country. North Korea doesn't have this problem. Below that level of tyrannous central control, bad people are going to do bad things regardless of what nonsensical 'gun control' measures you enact that only affect law abiding citizens. Paris proved that (Norway too) as have many other countries that have experienced mass shootings, despite bans on civilian firearm ownership. Not to mention higher murder rates in many of those countries.

So, are you ready for full on central planning?

If not, the best chance we have is to allow good people to defend themselves and their families. No more gun free zones. No more infringements to our rights.

Unless of course you have some magical new law that will all of sudden be followed by thugs, crazies and terrorists?

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Why aren't M16s with grenade launchers demanded to be available to the public, if the argument is that the population be armed as the military is?

The dreaded AR-15 was not used.......accuracy is supposed to count in journalism.......and if anti-gun nuts can't even get the rifle right.....why should we trust them on anything else?

Which weapon do you prefer for killing first graders and homos?

I'm sure each weapon has its advantages

Future terrorists need to know

If it isn't a rifle, it is a pistol, if it isn't a pistol is a crock pot, if not a crock pot then a pipe bomb. Go for the bad guy , and have no repeat offenders....
I prefer a good Guillotine for those who wish to do EVIL. Put it on TV and show how easy the head separates from the body, and make sure you show the face of the liberal who was decapitated. Pretty soon there wont be any liberals left to do others harm.

View attachment 78081

I'm asking our resident gun experts

Which weapon is preferable for killing first graders or homos?

AR-15 or the Sig Saur?

Keep in mind you want to look like a real badass while you are doing it and you want to inflict the most amount of terror while maintaining the highest kill ratio. You don't want to waste bullets

So...which is it?

It isn't the AR-15 or the Sig Saur killing the first graders or homo's dipshit, if you place those weapons on a table, they cant harm anyone. But when you put a flaming left wing liberal nut job behind those weapons, then babies born in the womb or outside will be executed. Kill the liberal and soon there wont be any more crime...

60 Hard Truths About "Liberals"

60 Hard Truths about "Liberals"

Why of course....Guns don't kill people....crazy fucking maniacs with guns kill people

So the question is...how do we keep crazy fucking maniacs from getting guns with the maximum firepower to kill first graders and homos?

French Police Officer Killed in Paris Suburb in Possible ISIS–Linked Terrorist Attack

A French police officer was killed in a knife attack in the suburbs of Paris late Monday night in what appears to be an ISIS–related attack one day after a deadly attack in Orlando, Florida.

Shame liberals are too stupid to know better.

 

[there4eyeM]

Why aren't M16s with grenade launchers demanded to be available to the public, if the argument is that the population be armed as the military is?

You can own them. You just have to go though the huge amount of red tape and haave a lot of cash.

Oh.

 

[SixFoot]

there is no civilian lawful purpose for this military grade weapon...

"Military Grade"

In other words, cheap ass shit that breaks all the time, provided to you by the lowest bidder. lol

 

[SixFoot]

 

[SixFoot]

You are a joke. You and a million losers armed with fully auto whatevers couldn't defeat our own army in a thousand years. That dream died just before WW1. If we ever really have to fight our own military it would last less than a week. Unless of course you can explain how a 7.62mm can penetrate an M1A1 tank's armor or bring down an F-18.

You poor saps who live in this fantasy world where minutemen still exist are just pathetic. Jesus H join the rest of the world in the present day, rather than the world of 1880 which is where you still live.

To be fair, this is what $20 of amonnium nitrate/aluminum powder (ANAL) does to a $2 Million Dollar U.S. Army Husky vehicle.

Here's what it SHOULD look like lol

To be even fairer, that same ANAL composition would probably cost more like $40 here in America.