The Lack Of Coverage Of Destruction By ISIS Is Unbelievable

[mudwhistle]

A picture tells more than a thousand words in this case. Click on this link. It's hard to believe:
A Village Destroyed after Kurds Resistance to ISIS Attacks Video

"They tell us Kobani does not exist anymore,” Adila Hassan, 33, said in the camp. “We do not know how long we will be staying here. We will return once the town is rebuilt, but that’s not going to happen soon.”

About 1,000 refugees have been streaming into the 2,470-acre camp daily, said its director, Mehmethan Ozdemir.

Even after getting the all-clear to return home, many displaced Kobani residents decided that the destruction was too much.

“In the current conditions, returning home is simply impossible to imagine,” said Cemile Hasan, 36. “Frankly, I’d be happy if we could be home in a year.”

On Tuesday last week, the town of Kobani, on Syria’s border with Turkey, was liberated by Kurdish militias after 112 days of clashes with fighters for the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS).

The liberation has, however, come at a price, with monitoring group the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights (SOHR) estimating that 324 Kurdish fighters and 12 civilians were among 1,313 deaths in the battle for the town.

The town’s infrastructure has also been heavily damaged."

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And yet we hear that Global Climate Change (and America) is the greatest threat to world peace on Earth.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Cant report anything that would make Obama look bad, whether his fault or not.
Job#1 is to get Hillary elected...headlines below right now:

CNN News.com headline....Amtrak derail..is it Republicans fault? Evil GOP cutting funds to Amtrak.
MSNBC headline...GOP lacks settled Pres. candidate...party in trouble
CBS News - Train Wreck
NYTIMES - Iraq war could hurt Jeb Bush run.

 

[TheOldSchool]

Cant report anything that would make Obama look bad, whether his fault or not.
Job#1 is to get Hillary elected...headlines below right now:

CNN News.com headline....Amtrak derail..is it Republicans fault? Evil GOP cutting funds to Amtrak.
MSNBC headline...GOP lacks settled Pres. candidate...party in trouble
CBS News - Train Wreck
NYTIMES - Iraq war could hurt Jeb Bush run.

You forgot Fox News's headline. Every republicans favorite topic, Obamacare!

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Cant report anything that would make Obama look bad, whether his fault or not.
Job#1 is to get Hillary elected...headlines below right now:

CNN News.com headline....Amtrak derail..is it Republicans fault? Evil GOP cutting funds to Amtrak.
MSNBC headline...GOP lacks settled Pres. candidate...party in trouble
CBS News - Train Wreck
NYTIMES - Iraq war could hurt Jeb Bush run.

You forgot Fox News's headline. Every republicans favorite topic, Obamacare!

which could be called Romney care as well since he was one of the first ones to sign it in this ONE PARTY SYSTEM we have disguised as two.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Cant report anything that would make Obama look bad, whether his fault or not.
Job#1 is to get Hillary elected...headlines below right now:

CNN News.com headline....Amtrak derail..is it Republicans fault? Evil GOP cutting funds to Amtrak.
MSNBC headline...GOP lacks settled Pres. candidate...party in trouble
CBS News - Train Wreck
NYTIMES - Iraq war could hurt Jeb Bush run.

You forgot Fox News's headline. Every republicans favorite topic, Obamacare!

Actually it is this story (OP)

 

[TheOldSchool]

Cant report anything that would make Obama look bad, whether his fault or not.
Job#1 is to get Hillary elected...headlines below right now:

CNN News.com headline....Amtrak derail..is it Republicans fault? Evil GOP cutting funds to Amtrak.
MSNBC headline...GOP lacks settled Pres. candidate...party in trouble
CBS News - Train Wreck
NYTIMES - Iraq war could hurt Jeb Bush run.

You forgot Fox News's headline. Every republicans favorite topic, Obamacare!

Actually it is this story (OP)

At the time it was not.

 

[candycorn]

So, what should we do about it?

Go back into Iraq, install another leader who will have to hate us to get elected, spill more blood, treasure, and faith?

We've done that already. No thanks.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

So, what should we do about it?

Wrong question.
You should ask..."what should have we done about it?"
It is too late now. Obama did not take them seriously, and grossly underestimated their strength and numbers...or should I say ignored their strength because he was certainly told about it. By every advisor he has.
The surge worked. Iraq was virtually vacated by the Taliban, and was rebuidling.
Despite every advisor telling him not to, he withdrew the troops anyway.
And ISIS is the result.

 

[ClosedCaption]

Isis just claimed credit for Deflate Gate.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Isis just claimed credit for Deflate Gate.

Here is what you are making jokes about. Real funny.

 

[ClosedCaption]

Isis just claimed credit for Deflate Gate.

Here is what you are making jokes about. Real funny.

I didnt make a joke about shooting people. Fix your diaper

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Isis just claimed credit for Deflate Gate.

Here is what you are making jokes about. Real funny.

I didnt make a joke about shooting people. Fix your diaper

You make jokes marginalizing ISIS.

 

[ClosedCaption]

Isis just claimed credit for Deflate Gate.

Here is what you are making jokes about. Real funny.

I didnt make a joke about shooting people. Fix your diaper

You make jokes marginalizing ISIS.

And what? You think they should be lionized?

They just tweeted they are responsible for the Amtrack Train Derailment.

 

[candycorn]

So, what should we do about it?

Wrong question.
You should ask..."what should have we done about it?"

A very wise man once told me, "Don't look back. You're not going that way."

It is too late now. Obama did not take them seriously, and grossly underestimated their strength and numbers...or should I say ignored their strength because he was certainly told about it. By every advisor he has.
The surge worked. Iraq was virtually vacated by the Taliban, and was rebuidling.
Despite every advisor telling him not to, he withdrew the troops anyway.
And ISIS is the result.

The entire Iraq invasion was a waste of blood and treasure. As Jeb Bush found out royally this week. Someday you'll be informed of it as well although I don't hold out much hope for you.

Obama did the only logical thing you can do when you cannot win the fight, withdraw from it.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Obama did the only logical thing you can do when you cannot win the fight, withdraw from it.

How'd that work in Vietnam?

You will get no argument from me that Bush Jr. completely and utterly screwed up the Iraq war.
And in doing so left Iraq wide open and completely vulnerable.
Even Obama knew this. And is precisely why the surge was needed. And it worked. Even Obama said so.
But he received pressure from the left, like you. "we need to withdraw".."send our boys home"..."how many have to die?"....he caved. Depsite every single military and foriegn advisor telling him it would be a collosal mistake - he caved.
And ISIS is the result.
And when ISIS commits the next large scale autrocity against us, on our soil...that is the result also.

 

[candycorn]

Obama did the only logical thing you can do when you cannot win the fight, withdraw from it.

How'd that work in Vietnam?

Pretty well. We haven't lost anyone over there since 75 or thereabouts.

You will get no argument from me that Bush Jr. completely and utterly screwed up the Iraq war.
And in doing so left Iraq wide open and completely vulnerable.
Even Obama knew this. And is precisely why the surge was needed. And it worked. Even Obama said so.
But he received pressure from the left, like you. "we need to withdraw".."send our boys home"..."how many have to die?"....he caved. Depsite every single military and foriegn advisor telling him it would be a collosal mistake - he caved.

FIrst I doubt there was such a unanimous agreement on the way forward.

Secondly, there was no "win" there. Never was, never will be. Outside of inflicting a totalitarian regime that would be expensive both monetarily and politically.

After 10 years, anyone with 2 eyeballs could see it.

And ISIS is the result.
And when ISIS commits the next large scale autrocity against us, on our soil...that is the result also.

IF we had left in the year 2199, in the year 2200, whomever was strongest there would have sized power.

I like that we're not receiving coffins of US service men by the scores at Dover...how 'bout you?

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Obama did the only logical thing you can do when you cannot win the fight, withdraw from it.

How'd that work in Vietnam?

Pretty well. We haven't lost anyone over there since 75 or thereabouts.

You will get no argument from me that Bush Jr. completely and utterly screwed up the Iraq war.
And in doing so left Iraq wide open and completely vulnerable.
Even Obama knew this. And is precisely why the surge was needed. And it worked. Even Obama said so.
But he received pressure from the left, like you. "we need to withdraw".."send our boys home"..."how many have to die?"....he caved. Depsite every single military and foriegn advisor telling him it would be a collosal mistake - he caved.

FIrst I doubt there was such a unanimous agreement on the way forward.

Secondly, there was no "win" there. Never was, never will be. Outside of inflicting a totalitarian regime that would be expensive both monetarily and politically.

After 10 years, anyone with 2 eyeballs could see it.

And ISIS is the result.
And when ISIS commits the next large scale autrocity against us, on our soil...that is the result also.

IF we had left in the year 2199, in the year 2200, whomever was strongest there would have sized power.

I like that we're not receiving coffins of US service men by the scores at Dover...how 'bout you?

Couple things...strawman. You know it well.
Vietnam...you say it worked out pretty well after we left.
Well, either you are totally ignorant of the aftermath of Vietnam...or you only care about our soldiers, and other lives besides our own you couldn't care less.
Cambodia. Ever hear of it?
Khmer Rouge. Ever hear of it?
Pol Pot. Ever hear of him?
You obviously know absolutely nothing about Vietnam. Nothing.

--------------------------------
Bush Jr invaded Iraq. And he did it horribly. Undoubtedly engaged in some of the worst military tactics ever taken...by any military.
The aftermath of the war was a giant power vacuum. It left the country incredibly vulnerable to radicalism.
Enter Obama. He indeed inherited a world class problem in Iraq. No doubt.
However, the surge was working. It had great success at removing the radicals that were taking over provinces, it provided the time for a legitimate government to form etc. It was working. Period. Not open to debate.
But Obama wanted to be the hero of the left and withdraw the troops. Problem was, and something everyone with an IQ over 70 could figure out - it would ruin all of the progress made and return Iraq into a breeding ground for terrorist.
He removed them anyway. And the result is exactly what everyone said would happen. A terrorist haven. ISIS. Far-far-far more organized, funded and powerful than Al-Quaeda ever thought about.
That is bad. Real bad. And the likelihood of a successful mass attack on US soil is almost guaranteed. And that would not be possible when they were nothing more than a ragtag group of radicals in pickup trucks.
If/when ISIS makes a mass attack. It is on Obama's shoulders.

 

[hipeter924]

Double edged sword when reporting on ISIS, as reporting their 'victories' encourages and motivates ISIS's supporters.

Though a position on ISIS is hard to take.

If the US returns to Iraq, guns blazing, and in full force, equivalent to when the US took out Saddam, there will be heavy losses and a long drawn out war over another decade. Though technically, ISIS would be wiped out in the first few weeks.

If the US only bombs and commits to special operations, the best outcome we could hope for so far is a divided Iraq, with Kurdistan and Baghdad to the coast not controlled by ISIS. It will depend on how long it takes Iraq to build an army to fight ISIS more effectively.

Finally, the controversial tactic that would never happen is bombing ISIS held cities to ashes, civilians and all. Till ISIS gives up. Which it won't, as the war shattered cities of Syria haven't stopped a thing.

Unfortunately, priceless cultural treasures will be lost forever, as the ISIS beasts rape and pillage.

At times, you just wish ISIS would catch some disease and die off, or that we could nuke them all at once. :/

 

[candycorn]

Obama did the only logical thing you can do when you cannot win the fight, withdraw from it.

How'd that work in Vietnam?

Pretty well. We haven't lost anyone over there since 75 or thereabouts.

You will get no argument from me that Bush Jr. completely and utterly screwed up the Iraq war.
And in doing so left Iraq wide open and completely vulnerable.
Even Obama knew this. And is precisely why the surge was needed. And it worked. Even Obama said so.
But he received pressure from the left, like you. "we need to withdraw".."send our boys home"..."how many have to die?"....he caved. Depsite every single military and foriegn advisor telling him it would be a collosal mistake - he caved.

FIrst I doubt there was such a unanimous agreement on the way forward.

Secondly, there was no "win" there. Never was, never will be. Outside of inflicting a totalitarian regime that would be expensive both monetarily and politically.

After 10 years, anyone with 2 eyeballs could see it.

And ISIS is the result.
And when ISIS commits the next large scale autrocity against us, on our soil...that is the result also.

IF we had left in the year 2199, in the year 2200, whomever was strongest there would have sized power.

I like that we're not receiving coffins of US service men by the scores at Dover...how 'bout you?

Couple things...strawman. You know it well.
Vietnam...you say it worked out pretty well after we left.
Well, either you are totally ignorant of the aftermath of Vietnam...or you only care about our soldiers, and other lives besides our own you couldn't care less.
Cambodia. Ever hear of it?
Khmer Rouge. Ever hear of it?
Pol Pot. Ever hear of him?
You obviously know absolutely nothing about Vietnam. Nothing.

You finally got something right. Congratulations.

You're right.

I only care about soldiers. When the conflict is unwinnable, they shouldn't be fighting. There was no win in Vietnam, there was no win in Iraq. I'm sorry about the people who had to endure the hardships of communist/theocratic dictatorships. Too bad for them.

--------------------------------
Bush Jr invaded Iraq. And he did it horribly. Undoubtedly engaged in some of the worst military tactics ever taken...by any military.
The aftermath of the war was a giant power vacuum. It left the country incredibly vulnerable to radicalism.
Enter Obama. He indeed inherited a world class problem in Iraq. No doubt.

Gee, 2 things right...in one post. You're breaking records.

However, the surge was working.

Short term, an ampule of epinephrine keeps a patient's heart beating in some cases. You don't want that to become a lifestyle however. Amp=surge.

It had great success at removing the radicals that were taking over provinces, it provided the time for a legitimate government to form etc. It was working. Period. Not open to debate.

All we had to do was keep on sending American meat into the Iraqi meatgrinder. No thanks.

But Obama wanted to be the hero of the left and withdraw the troops.

As GWB said...mission accomplished.

Problem was, and something everyone with an IQ over 70 could figure out - it would ruin all of the progress made and return Iraq into a breeding ground for terrorist.

Zero ground was ever really made.

He removed them anyway. And the result is exactly what everyone said would happen. A terrorist haven. ISIS. Far-far-far more organized, funded and powerful than Al-Quaeda ever thought about.

Conjecture.

That is bad. Real bad. And the likelihood of a successful mass attack on US soil is almost guaranteed.

This has always been the case.

And that would not be possible when they were nothing more than a ragtag group of radicals in pickup trucks.
If/when ISIS makes a mass attack. It is on Obama's shoulders.

Reality check. Again...if we pulled out in 2199, there would be just as much chaos over there as there is today. I'm not sure why you continue to insist that spilling American blood and treasure is a good thing.

Fact: Whomever we install as a head of state will have to rail against us at some point.
Fact: We will be attacked again at some point in the future
Fact: It will be on the hands of whomever is in office at the time.
Fact: There was no good time to start just as there was no good time to finish. The only "good" is that casualties are much, much, much less now than they were before.

Blowback is coming. Anyone with an IQ above 70 knew that the moment we invaded.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Obama did the only logical thing you can do when you cannot win the fight, withdraw from it.

How'd that work in Vietnam?

Pretty well. We haven't lost anyone over there since 75 or thereabouts.

You will get no argument from me that Bush Jr. completely and utterly screwed up the Iraq war.
And in doing so left Iraq wide open and completely vulnerable.
Even Obama knew this. And is precisely why the surge was needed. And it worked. Even Obama said so.
But he received pressure from the left, like you. "we need to withdraw".."send our boys home"..."how many have to die?"....he caved. Depsite every single military and foriegn advisor telling him it would be a collosal mistake - he caved.

FIrst I doubt there was such a unanimous agreement on the way forward.

Secondly, there was no "win" there. Never was, never will be. Outside of inflicting a totalitarian regime that would be expensive both monetarily and politically.

After 10 years, anyone with 2 eyeballs could see it.

And ISIS is the result.
And when ISIS commits the next large scale autrocity against us, on our soil...that is the result also.

IF we had left in the year 2199, in the year 2200, whomever was strongest there would have sized power.

I like that we're not receiving coffins of US service men by the scores at Dover...how 'bout you?

Couple things...strawman. You know it well.
Vietnam...you say it worked out pretty well after we left.
Well, either you are totally ignorant of the aftermath of Vietnam...or you only care about our soldiers, and other lives besides our own you couldn't care less.
Cambodia. Ever hear of it?
Khmer Rouge. Ever hear of it?
Pol Pot. Ever hear of him?
You obviously know absolutely nothing about Vietnam. Nothing.

You finally got something right. Congratulations.

You're right.

I only care about soldiers. When the conflict is unwinnable, they shouldn't be fighting. There was no win in Vietnam, there was no win in Iraq. I'm sorry about the people who had to endure the hardships of communist/theocratic dictatorships. Too bad for them.

--------------------------------
Bush Jr invaded Iraq. And he did it horribly. Undoubtedly engaged in some of the worst military tactics ever taken...by any military.
The aftermath of the war was a giant power vacuum. It left the country incredibly vulnerable to radicalism.
Enter Obama. He indeed inherited a world class problem in Iraq. No doubt.

Gee, 2 things right...in one post. You're breaking records.

However, the surge was working.

Short term, an ampule of epinephrine keeps a patient's heart beating in some cases. You don't want that to become a lifestyle however. Amp=surge.

It had great success at removing the radicals that were taking over provinces, it provided the time for a legitimate government to form etc. It was working. Period. Not open to debate.

All we had to do was keep on sending American meat into the Iraqi meatgrinder. No thanks.

But Obama wanted to be the hero of the left and withdraw the troops.

As GWB said...mission accomplished.

Problem was, and something everyone with an IQ over 70 could figure out - it would ruin all of the progress made and return Iraq into a breeding ground for terrorist.

Zero ground was ever really made.

He removed them anyway. And the result is exactly what everyone said would happen. A terrorist haven. ISIS. Far-far-far more organized, funded and powerful than Al-Quaeda ever thought about.

Conjecture.

That is bad. Real bad. And the likelihood of a successful mass attack on US soil is almost guaranteed.

This has always been the case.

And that would not be possible when they were nothing more than a ragtag group of radicals in pickup trucks.
If/when ISIS makes a mass attack. It is on Obama's shoulders.

Reality check. Again...if we pulled out in 2199, there would be just as much chaos over there as there is today. I'm not sure why you continue to insist that spilling American blood and treasure is a good thing.

Fact: Whomever we install as a head of state will have to rail against us at some point.
Fact: We will be attacked again at some point in the future
Fact: It will be on the hands of whomever is in office at the time.
Fact: There was no good time to start just as there was no good time to finish. The only "good" is that casualties are much, much, much less now than they were before.

Blowback is coming. Anyone with an IQ above 70 knew that the moment we invaded.