Steve_McGarrett
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You're a certified nutcase. If Russia hacked the election then why did Hillary get the popular vote?What law did Mattis break?They were compromised due to Obama Loyalists.America's spies anonymously took down Michael Flynn. That is deeply worrying.
In such a situation — our situation — shouldn't we hope the deep state will rise up to act responsibly to take down a member of the administration who may have broken the law?
The answer is an unequivocal no.
In a liberal democracy, how things happen is often as important as what happens. Procedures matter. So do rules and public accountability. The chaotic, dysfunctional Trump White House is placing the entire system under enormous strain. That's bad. But the answer isn't to counter it with equally irregular acts of sabotage — or with a disinformation campaign waged by nameless civil servants toiling away in the surveillance state.
As Eli Lake of Bloomberg News put it in an important article following Flynn's resignation,
Normally intercepts of U.S. officials and citizens are some of the most tightly held government secrets. This is for good reason. Selectively disclosing details of private conversations monitored by the FBI or NSA gives the permanent state the power to destroy reputations from the cloak of anonymity. This is what police states do. [Bloomberg]
Those cheering the deep state torpedoing of Flynn are saying, in effect, that a police state is perfectly fine so long as it helps to bring down Trump.
It is the role of Congress to investigate the president and those who work for him. If Congress resists doing its duty, out of a mixture of self-interest and cowardice, the American people have no choice but to try and hold the government's feet to the fire, demanding action with phone calls, protests, and, ultimately, votes. That is a democratic response to the failure of democracy.
Sitting back and letting shadowy, unaccountable agents of espionage do the job for us simply isn't an acceptable alternative.
Down that path lies the end of democracy in America.
The "swamp" that needs to be drained is the links between the Trump Administration and the Russian government. You're all aflutter because someone leaked that there are links between White House officials and the Russian government, and you're upset about the leaks. Talk about picking up the peanuts while being trampled by the elephants.
Your President and his staff are seriously compromised.
They were compromised by THEIR OWN ACTIONS. Your orange faced ass-clown knew that Mattis broke the law and DID NOTHING, and his Administration was lying to cover it up. So people in the CIA leaked the information, which they obtained from a LEGAL wiretap on the Russian Ambassador.
You were all gleeful when illegal hacking of the DNC leaked information favourable to tRump, but now you're butt hurt when your guys do something illegal and get caught.
Sorry, I meant to say Flynn. Flynn discussed Obama's sanctions and expulsions with the Ambassador, telling him the Trump Administration would lift them, and that was illegal.
You seem to think that Russia is your close ally, instead of a country which hacked your elections, and wanted Trump to win. Your President is colluding with the enemy. That constitutes treason in my books.