NYcarbineer
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Remember Bush Sr.'s 1991 Iraq war? The one where we allied ourselves with Kuwait, and the Saudis?
speaking of alliances with Islam...
speaking of alliances with Islam...
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Remember Bush Sr.'s 1991 Iraq war? The one where we allied ourselves with Kuwait, and the Saudis?
speaking of alliances with Islam...
I have yet to see a lefty address the point of the OP.
Why do you guys do all you can to stick your thumb in the eye of Christianity, but will bend over and take it to defend Islam and apologize for it?
I have yet to see a lefty address the point of the OP.
Why do you guys do all you can to stick your thumb in the eye of Christianity, but will bend over and take it to defend Islam and apologize for it?
Well, Jack, I'm a Catholic. What am I specifically doing to stick a thumb in the eye of my own religion?
How is defending another religion's freedom to worship apologizing for it?
I have yet to see a lefty address the point of the OP.
Why do you guys do all you can to stick your thumb in the eye of Christianity, but will bend over and take it to defend Islam and apologize for it?
Well, Jack, I'm a Catholic. What am I specifically doing to stick a thumb in the eye of my own religion?
How is defending another religion's freedom to worship apologizing for it?
See, this is the problem. Freedom of religion is not the point. There are mosques all over NY City. Are you deliberately avoiding the point?
Well, Jack, I'm a Catholic. What am I specifically doing to stick a thumb in the eye of my own religion?
How is defending another religion's freedom to worship apologizing for it?
See, this is the problem. Freedom of religion is not the point. There are mosques all over NY City. Are you deliberately avoiding the point?
Freedom of religion is the entire point. It's y'all who want to frame it otherwise because you don't approve of the religion in question. So, no, I'm not deliberately avoiding the point.
Since you failed to answer my questions, I repeat:
What am I specifically doing to stick a thumb in the eye of my own religion?
How is defending another religion's freedom to worship apologizing for it?
Yeah, those liberal bastards defending the freedom of religion!
Seriously, y'all are confusing (or purposely spinning that) defending a group against religious persecution and advocating their right to worship with condoning or even adhering to the belief set of said religion.
you know it's intentional. they're trash.
See, this is the problem. Freedom of religion is not the point. There are mosques all over NY City. Are you deliberately avoiding the point?
Freedom of religion is the entire point. It's y'all who want to frame it otherwise because you don't approve of the religion in question. So, no, I'm not deliberately avoiding the point.
Since you failed to answer my questions, I repeat:
What am I specifically doing to stick a thumb in the eye of my own religion?
How is defending another religion's freedom to worship apologizing for it?
There are mosques all over NY City. Therefore, it is not about freedom of religion. You are the one who is attempting to frame the debate. You're not an honest Christian.
Freedom of religion is the entire point. It's y'all who want to frame it otherwise because you don't approve of the religion in question. So, no, I'm not deliberately avoiding the point.
Since you failed to answer my questions, I repeat:
What am I specifically doing to stick a thumb in the eye of my own religion?
How is defending another religion's freedom to worship apologizing for it?
There are mosques all over NY City. Therefore, it is not about freedom of religion. You are the one who is attempting to frame the debate. You're not an honest Christian.
It's entirely about religion. The NYC mosque is not the only mosque being built that has been, or is being protested. If it were then I would buy your story. The opposition to the mosques in NY is part of a bigger agenda driven anti-Islamic movement in this country. I stand against that movement.
I have yet to see a lefty address the point of the OP.
Why do you guys do all you can to stick your thumb in the eye of Christianity, but will bend over and take it to defend Islam and apologize for it?
Conservatives are Christian. Freedom of religion does not apply to white people or Christians.
There are mosques all over NY City. Therefore, it is not about freedom of religion. You are the one who is attempting to frame the debate. You're not an honest Christian.
It's entirely about religion. The NYC mosque is not the only mosque being built that has been, or is being protested. If it were then I would buy your story. The opposition to the mosques in NY is part of a bigger agenda driven anti-Islamic movement in this country. I stand against that movement.
You would have a point if that were true. However, it isn't true since there are mosques all over NY City and there are not protests at all the mosques in NY City. Now you're making stuff up. If you're a Christian then be honest about it. If you need a cause badly enough that you have to lie to create one then it's not a worthy cause in my estimation.
There are mosques all over NY City. Therefore, it is not about freedom of religion. You are the one who is attempting to frame the debate. You're not an honest Christian.
It's entirely about religion. The NYC mosque is not the only mosque being built that has been, or is being protested. If it were then I would buy your story. The opposition to the mosques in NY is part of a bigger agenda driven anti-Islamic movement in this country. I stand against that movement.
You would have a point if that were true. However, it isn't true since there are mosques all over NY City and there are not protests at all the mosques in NY City. Now you're making stuff up. If you're a Christian then be honest about it. If you need a cause badly enough that you have to lie to create one then it's not a worthy cause in my estimation.
While a high-profile battle rages over a mosque near ground zero in Manhattan, heated confrontations have also broken out in communities across the country where mosques are proposed for far less hallowed locations.
In Murfreesboro, Tenn., Republican candidates have denounced plans for a large Muslim center proposed near a subdivision, and hundreds of protesters have turned out for a march and a county meeting.
In late June, in Temecula, Calif., members of a local Tea Party group took dogs and picket signs to Friday prayers at a mosque that is seeking to build a new worship center on a vacant lot nearby.
In Sheboygan, Wis., a few Christian ministers led a noisy fight against a Muslim group that sought permission to open a mosque in a former health food store bought by a Muslim doctor.
At one time, neighbors who did not want mosques in their backyards said their concerns were over traffic, parking and noise — the same reasons they might object to a church or a synagogue. But now the gloves are off.
In all of the recent conflicts, opponents have said their problem is Islam itself. They quote passages from the Koran and argue that even the most Americanized Muslim secretly wants to replace the Constitution with Islamic Shariah law.
These local skirmishes make clear that there is now widespread debate about whether the best way to uphold America’s democratic values is to allow Muslims the same religious freedom enjoyed by other Americans, or to pull away the welcome mat from a faith seen as a singular threat.
“What’s different is the heat, the volume, the level of hostility,” said Ihsan Bagby, associate professor of Islamic studies at the University of Kentucky. “It’s one thing to oppose a mosque because traffic might increase, but it’s different when you say these mosques are going to be nurturing terrorist bombers, that Islam is invading, that civilization is being undermined by Muslims.”
Perhaps it's no longer surprising in the current climate, but yet another mosque construction project is coming under increased attack from critics this month. It's time to add Florence, Kentucky to the list of controversial Islamic construction projects stretching from Temecula, California to Murfreesboro, Tennessee to, of course, lower Manhattan.
There are mosques all over NY City. Therefore, it is not about freedom of religion. You are the one who is attempting to frame the debate. You're not an honest Christian.
It's entirely about religion. The NYC mosque is not the only mosque being built that has been, or is being protested. If it were then I would buy your story. The opposition to the mosques in NY is part of a bigger agenda driven anti-Islamic movement in this country. I stand against that movement.
You would have a point if that were true. However, it isn't true since there are mosques all over NY City and there are not protests at all the mosques in NY City. Now you're making stuff up. If you're a Christian then be honest about it. If you need a cause badly enough that you have to lie to create one then it's not a worthy cause in my estimation.
It's entirely about religion. The NYC mosque is not the only mosque being built that has been, or is being protested. If it were then I would buy your story. The opposition to the mosques in NY is part of a bigger agenda driven anti-Islamic movement in this country. I stand against that movement.
You would have a point if that were true. However, it isn't true since there are mosques all over NY City and there are not protests at all the mosques in NY City. Now you're making stuff up. If you're a Christian then be honest about it. If you need a cause badly enough that you have to lie to create one then it's not a worthy cause in my estimation.
don't waste your time, he like all leftists just spout their talking points.
It's entirely about religion. The NYC mosque is not the only mosque being built that has been, or is being protested. If it were then I would buy your story. The opposition to the mosques in NY is part of a bigger agenda driven anti-Islamic movement in this country. I stand against that movement.
You would have a point if that were true. However, it isn't true since there are mosques all over NY City and there are not protests at all the mosques in NY City. Now you're making stuff up. If you're a Christian then be honest about it. If you need a cause badly enough that you have to lie to create one then it's not a worthy cause in my estimation.
While a high-profile battle rages over a mosque near ground zero in Manhattan, heated confrontations have also broken out in communities across the country where mosques are proposed for far less hallowed locations.
In Murfreesboro, Tenn., Republican candidates have denounced plans for a large Muslim center proposed near a subdivision, and hundreds of protesters have turned out for a march and a county meeting.
In late June, in Temecula, Calif., members of a local Tea Party group took dogs and picket signs to Friday prayers at a mosque that is seeking to build a new worship center on a vacant lot nearby.
In Sheboygan, Wis., a few Christian ministers led a noisy fight against a Muslim group that sought permission to open a mosque in a former health food store bought by a Muslim doctor.
At one time, neighbors who did not want mosques in their backyards said their concerns were over traffic, parking and noise the same reasons they might object to a church or a synagogue. But now the gloves are off.
In all of the recent conflicts, opponents have said their problem is Islam itself. They quote passages from the Koran and argue that even the most Americanized Muslim secretly wants to replace the Constitution with Islamic Shariah law.
These local skirmishes make clear that there is now widespread debate about whether the best way to uphold Americas democratic values is to allow Muslims the same religious freedom enjoyed by other Americans, or to pull away the welcome mat from a faith seen as a singular threat.
Whats different is the heat, the volume, the level of hostility, said Ihsan Bagby, associate professor of Islamic studies at the University of Kentucky. Its one thing to oppose a mosque because traffic might increase, but its different when you say these mosques are going to be nurturing terrorist bombers, that Islam is invading, that civilization is being undermined by Muslims.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/08/us/08mosque.html
Perhaps it's no longer surprising in the current climate, but yet another mosque construction project is coming under increased attack from critics this month. It's time to add Florence, Kentucky to the list of controversial Islamic construction projects stretching from Temecula, California to Murfreesboro, Tennessee to, of course, lower Manhattan.
Another Mosque Project Comes Under Fire -- In Kentucky | TPMMuckraker
BTW LMFAO @ you trying to be the arbiter of what "kind" of a Christian I am and what a Christian "should" do. It just proves to me even more that this is all about religion to you.
Evangelical wackos have declared war against Islam and screw the Constitution thank you very much.