The President with the worst average unemployment rate since World War II is?

[NYcarbineer]

The RW historical revisionist on the board want everyone to think that W left office with everything rosy and the economy humming. He left the worse economic crisis since the great depression. Now their cry is, "LET US TRY THAT AGAIN!"

Ad absurdum fallacy detected. No one said everything was rosy. But it got a lot worse under Obama.
You're not doing well here. If it werent for fallacies you'd have no arguments at all.

Everything got worse?

The biggest monthly job loss was Jan. 2009.

The worst quarter for GDP was 4Q 2008:

Yes Obama inherited a recovery. And blew it.
WHat happened to UE after he was elected?

He inherited the bottom of the recession.

Yes the recession was over. Until Democrats passed his legislation.
You just arent doing well here, dum-dum.

How could the recession be over in a quarter when GDP was -8%.

Once in a while you should admit you were wrong. It might make you look at least a little bit less the cartoon character.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Ad absurdum fallacy detected. No one said everything was rosy. But it got a lot worse under Obama.
You're not doing well here. If it werent for fallacies you'd have no arguments at all.

Everything got worse?

The biggest monthly job loss was Jan. 2009.

The worst quarter for GDP was 4Q 2008:

Yes Obama inherited a recovery. And blew it.
WHat happened to UE after he was elected?

He inherited the bottom of the recession.

Yes the recession was over. Until Democrats passed his legislation.
You just arent doing well here, dum-dum.

Rabbit, you are desperate to rewrite history, aren't you?

He's the worst on this board.

I guess there's some perverse form of happiness in one having shed all pride and dignity.

 

[NYcarbineer]

The RW historical revisionist on the board want everyone to think that W left office with everything rosy and the economy humming. He left the worse economic crisis since the great depression. Now their cry is, "LET US TRY THAT AGAIN!"

Ad absurdum fallacy detected. No one said everything was rosy. But it got a lot worse under Obama.
You're not doing well here. If it werent for fallacies you'd have no arguments at all.

Everything got worse?

The biggest monthly job loss was Jan. 2009.

The worst quarter for GDP was 4Q 2008:

Yes Obama inherited a recovery. And blew it.
WHat happened to UE after he was elected?

He inherited the bottom of the recession.

Yes the recession was over. Until Democrats passed his legislation.
You just arent doing well here, dum-dum.

Would knowing how much fun we liberals have mauling you change your willingness to be mauled?

 

[TooTall]

And if the labor force participation rate was the same today as when Obama took office the actual UE rate would be over 10%. Most of the reduction was people giving up looking for work.

There is no such thing as a constant LPR. And most of the people "giving up" looking for work are retirees who no longer need or want to work. as I have said, everyone knows the drop in LPR is due to the demographics of Boomers retiring but that will only be taken into consideration if a Republican is elected president in 2016 and the LPR continues to drop.

You know that the the rules are not the same for the GOP. It is amazing that they shout "the sky is falling" now when under W, the sky was really falling.....not a peep...

06. George W. Bush: 5.27%

Everyone knows W left the economy in free fall....

Everyone knows that the housing crash caused the free fall in the economy.

 

[edthecynic]

Ad absurdum fallacy detected. No one said everything was rosy. But it got a lot worse under Obama.
You're not doing well here. If it werent for fallacies you'd have no arguments at all.

Everything got worse?

The biggest monthly job loss was Jan. 2009.

The worst quarter for GDP was 4Q 2008:

Yes Obama inherited a recovery. And blew it.
WHat happened to UE after he was elected?

He inherited the bottom of the recession.

Yes the recession was over. Until Democrats passed his legislation.
You just arent doing well here, dum-dum.

How could the recession be over in a quarter when GDP was -8%.

Once in a while you should admit you were wrong. It might make you look at least a little bit less the cartoon character.

Rabid does, indirectly, when he doesn't reply when his lies are exposed, as below.

The UE rate was lower the day Bush left office than at any time under Obama until maybe 6 months ago.

And if by 6 months you mean over 2 years you would be correct.

The UE rate was lower the day Bush left office than at any time under Obama until maybe 6 months ago. And that improvement is solely from people dropping out of the workforce and collecting disability.

More lies from a pathological liar!

As I already showed Obama's UE rate has been below Bush's final skyrocketing rate for more than 2 years, and in fact, during the last 4 years the number of disability awards has been DECREASING.

Disabled-worker statistics

 

[The Rabbi]

Ad absurdum fallacy detected. No one said everything was rosy. But it got a lot worse under Obama.
You're not doing well here. If it werent for fallacies you'd have no arguments at all.

Everything got worse?

The biggest monthly job loss was Jan. 2009.

The worst quarter for GDP was 4Q 2008:

Yes Obama inherited a recovery. And blew it.
WHat happened to UE after he was elected?

He inherited the bottom of the recession.

Yes the recession was over. Until Democrats passed his legislation.
You just arent doing well here, dum-dum.

Would knowing how much fun we liberals have mauling you change your willingness to be mauled?

LOL! You've failed at every post you've made here. You just shwoed that Obama inherited a recession that had bottomed out already and an economy that was on the rise. He promptly turned that to the slowest growth "recovery" i n history. Yes, you've shown that.

 

[asterism]

You're not being fair. lol

The RW historical revisionist on the board want everyone to think that W left office with everything rosy and the economy humming. He left the worse economic crisis since the great depression. Now their cry is, "LET US TRY THAT AGAIN!"

Ad absurdum fallacy detected. No one said everything was rosy. But it got a lot worse under Obama.
You're not doing well here. If it werent for fallacies you'd have no arguments at all.

Everything got worse?

The biggest monthly job loss was Jan. 2009.

The worst quarter for GDP was 4Q 2008:

Yes Obama inherited a recovery. And blew it.
WHat happened to UE after he was elected?

He inherited the bottom of the recession.

So why hasn't median income and median net worth increased then?

 

[The Rabbi]

The RW historical revisionist on the board want everyone to think that W left office with everything rosy and the economy humming. He left the worse economic crisis since the great depression. Now their cry is, "LET US TRY THAT AGAIN!"

Ad absurdum fallacy detected. No one said everything was rosy. But it got a lot worse under Obama.
You're not doing well here. If it werent for fallacies you'd have no arguments at all.

Everything got worse?

The biggest monthly job loss was Jan. 2009.

The worst quarter for GDP was 4Q 2008:

Yes Obama inherited a recovery. And blew it.
WHat happened to UE after he was elected?

He inherited the bottom of the recession.

So why hasn't median income and median net worth increased then?

Reaganomics!

 

[rightwinger]

Everything got worse?

The biggest monthly job loss was Jan. 2009.

The worst quarter for GDP was 4Q 2008:

Yes Obama inherited a recovery. And blew it.
WHat happened to UE after he was elected?

He inherited the bottom of the recession.

Yes the recession was over. Until Democrats passed his legislation.
You just arent doing well here, dum-dum.

Would knowing how much fun we liberals have mauling you change your willingness to be mauled?

LOL! You've failed at every post you've made here. You just shwoed that Obama inherited a recession that had bottomed out already and an economy that was on the rise. He promptly turned that to the slowest growth "recovery" i n history. Yes, you've shown that.

Bottomed out losing 700,000 jobs a month

What a great time to assume the presidency

 

[TooTall]

You want to take a poll on USMB and ask how the economy that W left crashing has affecting them? Many people, including yours truly, are still trying to recover from the mess that W left.

You're not being fair. lol

The RW historical revisionist on the board want everyone to think that W left office with everything rosy and the economy humming. He left the worse economic crisis since the great depression. Now their cry is, "LET US TRY THAT AGAIN!"

Ad absurdum fallacy detected. No one said everything was rosy. But it got a lot worse under Obama.
You're not doing well here. If it werent for fallacies you'd have no arguments at all.

Everything got worse?

The biggest monthly job loss was Jan. 2009.

The worst quarter for GDP was 4Q 2008:

Yes Obama inherited a recovery. And blew it.
WHat happened to UE after he was elected?

The UE rate went up to 10% and stayed above 8% until August 2012. Since the Republicans took control of the Congress the UE rate has gone down to 5.4%.

 

[The Rabbi]

Yes Obama inherited a recovery. And blew it.
WHat happened to UE after he was elected?

He inherited the bottom of the recession.

Yes the recession was over. Until Democrats passed his legislation.
You just arent doing well here, dum-dum.

Would knowing how much fun we liberals have mauling you change your willingness to be mauled?

LOL! You've failed at every post you've made here. You just shwoed that Obama inherited a recession that had bottomed out already and an economy that was on the rise. He promptly turned that to the slowest growth "recovery" i n history. Yes, you've shown that.

Bottomed out losing 700,000 jobs a month

What a great time to assume the presidency

Employment is a lagging indicator.
What you dont know would fill a universe.

 

[JimH52]

Everything got worse?

The biggest monthly job loss was Jan. 2009.

The worst quarter for GDP was 4Q 2008:

Yes Obama inherited a recovery. And blew it.
WHat happened to UE after he was elected?

He inherited the bottom of the recession.

Yes the recession was over. Until Democrats passed his legislation.
You just arent doing well here, dum-dum.

Would knowing how much fun we liberals have mauling you change your willingness to be mauled?

LOL! You've failed at every post you've made here. You just shwoed that Obama inherited a recession that had bottomed out already and an economy that was on the rise. He promptly turned that to the slowest growth "recovery" i n history. Yes, you've shown that.

History of U.S. Recessions Causes Lengths Stats


2008-2009 Recession
TheGreat Recessionwas the worst sincethe 1929 Depression. The economy shrank in five quarters, including four quarters in a row. Two quarters shrank more than 5%, including Q2 2008which fell a whopping 8.9%, more than any other recession since the Great Depression. The recession ended in Q3 2009, when GDP turned positive,thanks to economic stimulus spending. The recession was also the longest since the Depression, lasting 18 months.

2008

· Q1 -2.7% (0.4%)

· Q2 2.0% (1.5%)

· Q3 -1.9% (-2.7%)

· Q4 -8.2% (-5.4%)

2009

· Q1 -5.4% (-6.4%)

· Q2 -0.5% (-0.7%)

Auto Industry Bailout GM Ford Chrysler


The federal government took over GM and Chrysler in March 2009. It fired GM CEO Rick Wagoner, and required that Chrysler merge with Italy's Fiat SpA. It took advantage of the take-over, setting new auto efficiency standard to force the companies to become more competitive against Japanese and German firms.
___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Another Ribbid lie exposed. The Auto industry bailout did not occur until March 2009. W's recession was as deep as any that we have ever seen.

 

[The Rabbi]

Yes Obama inherited a recovery. And blew it.
WHat happened to UE after he was elected?

He inherited the bottom of the recession.

Yes the recession was over. Until Democrats passed his legislation.
You just arent doing well here, dum-dum.

Would knowing how much fun we liberals have mauling you change your willingness to be mauled?

LOL! You've failed at every post you've made here. You just shwoed that Obama inherited a recession that had bottomed out already and an economy that was on the rise. He promptly turned that to the slowest growth "recovery" i n history. Yes, you've shown that.

History of U.S. Recessions Causes Lengths Stats


2008-2009 Recession
TheGreat Recessionwas the worst sincethe 1929 Depression. The economy shrank in five quarters, including four quarters in a row. Two quarters shrank more than 5%, including Q2 2008which fell a whopping 8.9%, more than any other recession since the Great Depression. The recession ended in Q3 2009, when GDP turned positive,thanks to economic stimulus spending. The recession was also the longest since the Depression, lasting 18 months.

2008

· Q1 -2.7% (0.4%)

· Q2 2.0% (1.5%)

· Q3 -1.9% (-2.7%)

· Q4 -8.2% (-5.4%)

2009

· Q1 -5.4% (-6.4%)

· Q2 -0.5% (-0.7%)

Auto Industry Bailout GM Ford Chrysler


The federal government took over GM and Chrysler in March 2009. It fired GM CEO Rick Wagoner, and required that Chrysler merge with Italy's Fiat SpA. It took advantage of the take-over, setting new auto efficiency standard to force the companies to become more competitive against Japanese and German firms.
___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Another Ribbid lie exposed. The Auto industry bailout did not occur until March 2009. W's recession was as deep as any that we have ever seen.

Bush had already bailed out the auto industry, over Congress' objections. March 2009 was 2 months after Obama assumed office. Most of the damage had been done. All he needed to do was nothing. But of course we cant let a crisis go to waste.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Who cares? Presidents don't decide who works or who doesn't.

Anyone looking for a KICK ASS sig.. to demonstrate that intrinsic to the Intellectually Less Fortunate, has a wonderful opportunity, right here.

I'd do it myself, but I already have about as solid a signature as any human being could reasonably hope for. But if I didn't... I'd SNATCH THIS ONE UP IN A HEART BEAT!

 

[JimH52]

He inherited the bottom of the recession.

Yes the recession was over. Until Democrats passed his legislation.
You just arent doing well here, dum-dum.

Would knowing how much fun we liberals have mauling you change your willingness to be mauled?

LOL! You've failed at every post you've made here. You just shwoed that Obama inherited a recession that had bottomed out already and an economy that was on the rise. He promptly turned that to the slowest growth "recovery" i n history. Yes, you've shown that.

History of U.S. Recessions Causes Lengths Stats


2008-2009 Recession
TheGreat Recessionwas the worst sincethe 1929 Depression. The economy shrank in five quarters, including four quarters in a row. Two quarters shrank more than 5%, including Q2 2008which fell a whopping 8.9%, more than any other recession since the Great Depression. The recession ended in Q3 2009, when GDP turned positive,thanks to economic stimulus spending. The recession was also the longest since the Depression, lasting 18 months.

2008

· Q1 -2.7% (0.4%)

· Q2 2.0% (1.5%)

· Q3 -1.9% (-2.7%)

· Q4 -8.2% (-5.4%)

2009

· Q1 -5.4% (-6.4%)

· Q2 -0.5% (-0.7%)

Auto Industry Bailout GM Ford Chrysler


The federal government took over GM and Chrysler in March 2009. It fired GM CEO Rick Wagoner, and required that Chrysler merge with Italy's Fiat SpA. It took advantage of the take-over, setting new auto efficiency standard to force the companies to become more competitive against Japanese and German firms.
___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Another Ribbid lie exposed. The Auto industry bailout did not occur until March 2009. W's recession was as deep as any that we have ever seen.

Bush had already bailed out the auto industry, over Congress' objections. March 2009 was 2 months after Obama assumed office. Most of the damage had been done. All he needed to do was nothing. But of course we cant let a crisis go to waste.

Right...."most of the damage had been done" is right. The damage you are speaking of is the George W Bush presidency, right?

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

History of U.S. Recessions Causes Lengths Stats


2008-2009 Recession
TheGreat Recessionwas the worst sincethe 1929 Depression. The economy shrank in five quarters, including four quarters in a row. Two quarters shrank more than 5%, including Q2 2008which fell a whopping 8.9%, more than any other recession since the Great Depression. The recession ended in Q3 2009, when GDP turned positive,thanks to economic stimulus spending. The recession was also the longest since the Depression, lasting 18 months.

2008

· Q1 -2.7% (0.4%)

· Q2 2.0% (1.5%)

· Q3 -1.9% (-2.7%)

· Q4 -8.2% (-5.4%)

2009

· Q1 -5.4% (-6.4%)

· Q2 -0.5% (-0.7%)

Auto Industry Bailout GM Ford Chrysler


The federal government took over GM and Chrysler in March 2009. It fired GM CEO Rick Wagoner, and required that Chrysler merge with Italy's Fiat SpA. It took advantage of the take-over, setting new auto efficiency standard to force the companies to become more competitive against Japanese and German firms.
___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Another Ribbid lie exposed. The Auto industry bailout did not occur until March 2009. W's recession was as deep as any that we have ever seen.

The US Economy has not entered into a recovery and cannot... due to the 'fiscal policy' of the Ideological Left which is preventing it.

Such is the case today, that any attempt to 'recover' the US Economy would literally cause the planet's economic foundation to collapse, and it would do so almost instantaneously, with hyper-inflation of the US Dollar rendering it something well below ABSOLUTELY NO VALUE... the volume of the linen-paper currency alone, would be sufficient to send most landfills in the United States into overload.

Within the first few days of what is inevitably coming, the price of a loaf of bread will be counted in the MILLIONS.

Now some might say that "The Left has prevented that from happening" and they would be dead wrong.

The Left has quite literally CAUSED it to happen.

All that was necessary for the US Economy to recover, was the easiest thing that could have been done, which was: NOTHING.

Had the Left NOT propped up business that succumbed to the removal of sound principle from the financial/lending markets, and let those companies go bust... within weeks, those assets would have been bought by new entities... who could have purchased them as fire sale prices, and returned those assets back to the markets at very affordable levels, which would have produced the CORRECTION that has yet to take place.

By fabricating TENS OF TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS to prop up those fatally flawed businesses, they have devalued the US Dollar to roughly below worthless... and this without regard to those who simply pretend that such hasn't happened, because the consequences of such, have yet to materialize.

Understand, the Socialist Policy which caused the housing bubble, thus which caused the boom that busted it... was what caused the bust. That was true in the 1970s when the Left was coercing the lending markets to drop the actuarial lending principles that sustain viability in their industry, it was true in the 80s, when they expanded on policies to encourage such, it was true in the 90s when they doubled down on those policies and it was true in the 2000s when they GUARANTEED AGAINST LOSSES DUE TO THOSE POLICIES and it remained true, right to the bust.

Thus the policy was wrong in the 70s and remained wrong until the INEVITABLE consequences came rockin' in, in 2008.

The same is true for the INEVITABLE, UNSPEAKABLE CRASH which they have stored up... and which has yet to happen, but which MUST HAPPEN.

And... folks, when it does. We're all fucked. And they're already preparing for it... and it is going to end life as we know it. And no one reading this, will be alive, when and more appropriately: IF we manage to come out the other side, as a nation, let alone as a free nation built upon the American Principles of Freedom.

The good news, if there is any, is for those of you who have been so eager to build a fence on our borders. At the collapse, there will be a BEAUTIFUL FENSE BUILT. But it will not be built to keep Foreign Nationals from getting INTO the US, it will be built by the Left... to keep US Citizens from hauling their ASS to ANYWHERE BUT HERE!

 

[rightwinger]

He inherited the bottom of the recession.

Yes the recession was over. Until Democrats passed his legislation.
You just arent doing well here, dum-dum.

Would knowing how much fun we liberals have mauling you change your willingness to be mauled?

LOL! You've failed at every post you've made here. You just shwoed that Obama inherited a recession that had bottomed out already and an economy that was on the rise. He promptly turned that to the slowest growth "recovery" i n history. Yes, you've shown that.

Bottomed out losing 700,000 jobs a month

What a great time to assume the presidency

Employment is a lagging indicator.
What you dont know would fill a universe.

How about the stock market that had dropped 6500 points or the five quarters of negative GDP?

How was that lagging?

 

[JimH52]

Yes the recession was over. Until Democrats passed his legislation.
You just arent doing well here, dum-dum.

Would knowing how much fun we liberals have mauling you change your willingness to be mauled?

LOL! You've failed at every post you've made here. You just shwoed that Obama inherited a recession that had bottomed out already and an economy that was on the rise. He promptly turned that to the slowest growth "recovery" i n history. Yes, you've shown that.

Bottomed out losing 700,000 jobs a month

What a great time to assume the presidency

Employment is a lagging indicator.
What you dont know would fill a universe.

How about the stock market that had dropped 6500 points or the five quarters of negative GDP?

How was that lagging?

Ribbid should be a Fiction writer.....he sure can spin a tale!

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Would knowing how much fun we liberals have mauling you change your willingness to be mauled?

LOL! You've failed at every post you've made here. You just shwoed that Obama inherited a recession that had bottomed out already and an economy that was on the rise. He promptly turned that to the slowest growth "recovery" i n history. Yes, you've shown that.

Bottomed out losing 700,000 jobs a month

What a great time to assume the presidency

Employment is a lagging indicator.
What you dont know would fill a universe.

How about the stock market that had dropped 6500 points or the five quarters of negative GDP?

How was that lagging?

Ribbid should be a Fiction writer.....he sure can spin a tale!

HEY LOOK! It's Alinsky's 12th Rule for the Addledicals.

 

[The Rabbi]

Yes the recession was over. Until Democrats passed his legislation.
You just arent doing well here, dum-dum.

Would knowing how much fun we liberals have mauling you change your willingness to be mauled?

LOL! You've failed at every post you've made here. You just shwoed that Obama inherited a recession that had bottomed out already and an economy that was on the rise. He promptly turned that to the slowest growth "recovery" i n history. Yes, you've shown that.

History of U.S. Recessions Causes Lengths Stats


2008-2009 Recession
TheGreat Recessionwas the worst sincethe 1929 Depression. The economy shrank in five quarters, including four quarters in a row. Two quarters shrank more than 5%, including Q2 2008which fell a whopping 8.9%, more than any other recession since the Great Depression. The recession ended in Q3 2009, when GDP turned positive,thanks to economic stimulus spending. The recession was also the longest since the Depression, lasting 18 months.

2008

· Q1 -2.7% (0.4%)

· Q2 2.0% (1.5%)

· Q3 -1.9% (-2.7%)

· Q4 -8.2% (-5.4%)

2009

· Q1 -5.4% (-6.4%)

· Q2 -0.5% (-0.7%)

Auto Industry Bailout GM Ford Chrysler


The federal government took over GM and Chrysler in March 2009. It fired GM CEO Rick Wagoner, and required that Chrysler merge with Italy's Fiat SpA. It took advantage of the take-over, setting new auto efficiency standard to force the companies to become more competitive against Japanese and German firms.
___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Another Ribbid lie exposed. The Auto industry bailout did not occur until March 2009. W's recession was as deep as any that we have ever seen.

Bush had already bailed out the auto industry, over Congress' objections. March 2009 was 2 months after Obama assumed office. Most of the damage had been done. All he needed to do was nothing. But of course we cant let a crisis go to waste.

Right...."most of the damage had been done" is right. The damage you are speaking of is the George W Bush presidency, right?

No, it was the Democratic Congress. Things were fine until they got in.
The real disaster has been the Obama presidency. Worst record of growth in post war history!