The religion of atheists is socialism

[danielpalos]

A socialist and two militant atheists walk into a bar.

The socialist says, "ok, whose got money." They leave.

the poor do that at Saks.

 

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A socialist and two militant atheists walk into a bar.

The socialist says, "ok, whose got money." They leave.

the poor do that at Saks.

Unplug the bananas from your ear.

 

[danielpalos]

A socialist and two militant atheists walk into a bar.

The socialist says, "ok, whose got money." They leave.

the poor do that at Saks.

Unplug the bananas from your ear.

I prefer to have a good argument. I know it is good, because those of the opposing view have nothing but fallacy instead of valid arguments, for rebuttal.

people who love socialism don't have a problem with competing with those of the opposing view; unlike the more fantastical, national and socialist, right wing.

 

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A socialist and two militant atheists walk into a bar.

The socialist says, "ok, whose got money." They leave.

the poor do that at Saks.

Unplug the bananas from your ear.

I prefer to have a good argument. I know it is good, because those of the opposing view have nothing but fallacy instead of valid arguments, for rebuttal.

people who love socialism don't have a problem with competing with those of the opposing view; unlike the more fantastical, national and socialist, right wing.

You should go and self medicate yourself. Reality is too much for you.

 

[danielpalos]

did you know, that true Gamorrans and true Sodomites, make better citizens than false Christians?

 

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did you know, that true Gamorrans and true Sodomites, make better citizens than false Christians?

I did not know that. Did you know that true socialists were true Sodomites? I bet you did.

 

[danielpalos]

did you know, that true Gamorrans and true Sodomites, make better citizens than false Christians?

I did not know that. Did you know that true socialists were true Sodomites? I bet you did.

nope; only "fullers of fallacy" have to resort to "appeals to the masses" due their, inferior arguments.

 

[RWS]

And regarding the "highest standard of conduct", no religion can do better than "just be good to people and the world, and don't destroy stuff".

That is the ideal they hold in front of you like a carrot, with idols like Jesus, but they never let you get there in life. They always tell you it is out of your reach until death. Because if you got there during life, you wouldn't need to listen to them anymore, and then they lose power and money flow.

Religions may advertise that they have this so-called "high conduct", but they actually thrive on promoting your sins, and then your subsequent servitude and search for forgiveness.

I don't need no stinkin' forgiveness...

My moral standard will never be breached by some corrupt ruler.

Your moral standard was such that you could not say that it was wrong for one human being to own another human being. I gave you the opportunity to do so and you punted. You claimed that if it were good for society as a whole then it would be moral.

Again, you are providing false information and lying, in order to further your argument.

See what you originally asked here: If God doesn't exist...

My answer is a page later, here: If God doesn't exist...

And I'll quote it here:

You had asked:

Sure. That is moral relativity. My question was directed to you. Do you believe that slavery is moral? Do you believe there was a time in the past it was moral? Do you believe there is a time in the future it will be moral? If you answered no to all three questions we have just proven that morals are not relative.

I replied:

And btw, slavery is not moral when it comes to humans. Because we are using other humans for financial gain.

In the insect world, slavery is rampant, but it is done so for the good of the population, and is how they survive.

Humans use slavery so they can be lazy and make money, based on other people's efforts. Just like religion does.

Religion is just a colony of human slaves, donating their money and lives for the benefit of individuals who get richer and more powerful.

The problem, unlike insects, is that it is not good for the rest of the population.

So I had said that slavery is not moral with humans (insects, yes). You said that if we answered "no" to all 3 questions, and my answer is "no" to all 3, then you proved that our morals are not relative.

Yet you keep saying that non-believers morals are relative.

Again, I don't think you know what that word means. Our morals don't change.

But at one point people like you thought slavery was cool and beneficial and financially rewarding. Maybe you don't think so anymore, but that's because everyone else changed your ruler's mind about it. Your religion succumbed to public outcry, and changed its mind and said slavery was no longer cool. But that still hasn't trickled down to all you fanatics yet, that seem to think slavery is a god-given right. Either way, your morals are supposed to change based on what a ruler tells you. Not what you truly think.

Religious morals are relative to the whims of their leader.

You left out some of the conversation.

Again, you're being deceptive to try to raise doubt in people that don't research things.

Exactly what part of our conversation did I leave out? Nothing has been deleted, the posts are there for everyone to read. And I provided them.

So what did I leave out of our conversation?

The part where you dodged my question. Id society deemed that slavery was in the best interest of society, would it be moral? Yes or no. It really is a simple question.

If God doesn't exist...

I believe I covered that with "And btw, slavery is not moral when it comes to humans. Because we are using other humans for financial gain."

I said slavery is not moral when it comes to humans. What exactly am I dodging? Why are you still trying to be deceitful?

You need to learn to admit when you are wrong. And that can be the first step towards salvation and your sainthood... I have admitted I am wrong many times. And it wasn't a fault that I fought back against, it was a learning experience to take me to another level.

 

[RWS]

But the same god that rules you now, ruled the church in the past. And allowed (or ignored) these things. Back then, it was morally acceptable for those pedophile/homosexual relations in the church. Obviously, priests need to let loose once in a while, so it was cool back then. But now, it's not cool.

It's the same God. Why did He allow it back then, and shuns it now? Did He change his mind?

Doesn't he keep watch over the peeps that are supposed to be representing him here on Earth? Doesn't he see the bad things they have been doing in his name?

Either he doesn't see it, or he doesn't care... Meanwhile, back on Earth, we have to deal with you deviant, perverted buttheads that want to take over the world, using His name as your excuse for your sins, with nothing but lies and threats to back you up.

The other answer is He does see it, and He promotes it... In which case, you are following the personification of evil, rather than good.

In terms of what "god" is based on in ancient pre-bible history, you are following Enlil, and not Enki.

We all have free will. We are free to choose good or evil. That doesn't mean He doesn't see it or doesn't care. It means we are free to choose between the two. Forcing someone to be virtuous does not make them virtuous.

" Forcing someone to be virtuous does not make them virtuous." you're proof of that.

I never claimed to be a saint. Just trying to become one.

You're headed in the wrong direction.

Ding has nothing but diversion while alleging to be taken as seriously as the "gospel Truth".

You're absolutely right. With people like him, it's all smoke and mirrors.

Deceit and denial.

He'll post website after website, and every one I have checked has refuted his claims. He just has a list of websites to link when in denial, and hopes nobody clicks it, since he never read it himself.

Lie and deny, and use smoke and mirrors to fool the people... That's how he rolls...

He'd be the next great militant religious leader!

 

[RWS]

by dink before that i missed... please read it
If God doesn't exist...

Another link that leads nowhere pertinent. Just a random link that you provide, in hopes that nobody checks it, and think you are somehow enlightened by providing that link.

Smoke and mirrors, lies and denials...

This is like, 8 or 9, so far... ?

 

[RWS]

I think I finally figured it out...

Ding is a double-agent.

I think he's on our side, based on what he links and hopes nobody reads...

 

[RWS]

So while he promotes the craziness that he does, he also gives nonsensical links and links that contradict what he said, as a clue that he really doesn't believe it.

But I don't understand his agenda...

Why go through all that trouble?

 

[danielpalos]

We all have free will. We are free to choose good or evil. That doesn't mean He doesn't see it or doesn't care. It means we are free to choose between the two. Forcing someone to be virtuous does not make them virtuous.

" Forcing someone to be virtuous does not make them virtuous." you're proof of that.

I never claimed to be a saint. Just trying to become one.

You're headed in the wrong direction.

Ding has nothing but diversion while alleging to be taken as seriously as the "gospel Truth".

You're absolutely right. With people like him, it's all smoke and mirrors.

Deceit and denial.

He'll post website after website, and every one I have checked has refuted his claims. He just has a list of websites to link when in denial, and hopes nobody clicks it, since he never read it himself.

Lie and deny, and use smoke and mirrors to fool the people... That's how he rolls...

He'd be the next great militant religious leader!

and, he claims to be a "Psych" major.

 

[Mudda]

" Forcing someone to be virtuous does not make them virtuous." you're proof of that.

I never claimed to be a saint. Just trying to become one.

You're headed in the wrong direction.

Ding has nothing but diversion while alleging to be taken as seriously as the "gospel Truth".

You're absolutely right. With people like him, it's all smoke and mirrors.

Deceit and denial.

He'll post website after website, and every one I have checked has refuted his claims. He just has a list of websites to link when in denial, and hopes nobody clicks it, since he never read it himself.

Lie and deny, and use smoke and mirrors to fool the people... That's how he rolls...

He'd be the next great militant religious leader!

and, he claims to be a "Psych" major.

... at Hamburger U.

 

[RWS]

Dang, I guess I was right...

Double-agent Ding!

Must be hard at work making new clues!

 

[ding]

We all have free will. We are free to choose good or evil. That doesn't mean He doesn't see it or doesn't care. It means we are free to choose between the two. Forcing someone to be virtuous does not make them virtuous.

" Forcing someone to be virtuous does not make them virtuous." you're proof of that.

I never claimed to be a saint. Just trying to become one.

You're headed in the wrong direction.

Ding has nothing but diversion while alleging to be taken as seriously as the "gospel Truth".

You're absolutely right. With people like him, it's all smoke and mirrors.

Deceit and denial.

He'll post website after website, and every one I have checked has refuted his claims. He just has a list of websites to link when in denial, and hopes nobody clicks it, since he never read it himself.

Lie and deny, and use smoke and mirrors to fool the people... That's how he rolls...

He'd be the next great militant religious leader!

You socialists like to stick together.

 

[ding]

" Forcing someone to be virtuous does not make them virtuous." you're proof of that.

I never claimed to be a saint. Just trying to become one.

You're headed in the wrong direction.

Ding has nothing but diversion while alleging to be taken as seriously as the "gospel Truth".

You're absolutely right. With people like him, it's all smoke and mirrors.

Deceit and denial.

He'll post website after website, and every one I have checked has refuted his claims. He just has a list of websites to link when in denial, and hopes nobody clicks it, since he never read it himself.

Lie and deny, and use smoke and mirrors to fool the people... That's how he rolls...

He'd be the next great militant religious leader!

and, he claims to be a "Psych" major.

Nope. I just have a knack for spotting people who have external locus of controls and practice normalization of deviance and moral relativity. I sleep like a baby at night knowing that it is only a matter of time for them to realize their predictable surprises. Error cannot stand. Eventually it fails. It is only a matter of time. Please do think of me when it does.

 

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So while he promotes the craziness that he does, he also gives nonsensical links and links that contradict what he said, as a clue that he really doesn't believe it.

But I don't understand his agenda...

Why go through all that trouble?

Don't be mad at me because my signature nails you. Be mad at yourself.

 

[BreezeWood]

I never claimed to be a saint. Just trying to become one.

You're headed in the wrong direction.

Ding has nothing but diversion while alleging to be taken as seriously as the "gospel Truth".

You're absolutely right. With people like him, it's all smoke and mirrors.

Deceit and denial.

He'll post website after website, and every one I have checked has refuted his claims. He just has a list of websites to link when in denial, and hopes nobody clicks it, since he never read it himself.

Lie and deny, and use smoke and mirrors to fool the people... That's how he rolls...

He'd be the next great militant religious leader!

and, he claims to be a "Psych" major.

Nope. I just have a knack for spotting people who have external locus of controls and practice normalization of deviance and moral relativity. I sleep like a baby at night knowing that it is only a matter of time for them to realize their predictable surprises. Error cannot stand. Eventually it fails. It is only a matter of time. Please do think of me when it does.

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Error cannot stand. Eventually it fails. It is only a matter of time. Please do think of me when it does.

you are the perfect example of the living dead.


* it wasn't just christianity, political deviance played an equally part in shutting your door.

 

[ding]

You're headed in the wrong direction.

Ding has nothing but diversion while alleging to be taken as seriously as the "gospel Truth".

You're absolutely right. With people like him, it's all smoke and mirrors.

Deceit and denial.

He'll post website after website, and every one I have checked has refuted his claims. He just has a list of websites to link when in denial, and hopes nobody clicks it, since he never read it himself.

Lie and deny, and use smoke and mirrors to fool the people... That's how he rolls...

He'd be the next great militant religious leader!

and, he claims to be a "Psych" major.

Nope. I just have a knack for spotting people who have external locus of controls and practice normalization of deviance and moral relativity. I sleep like a baby at night knowing that it is only a matter of time for them to realize their predictable surprises. Error cannot stand. Eventually it fails. It is only a matter of time. Please do think of me when it does.

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Error cannot stand. Eventually it fails. It is only a matter of time. Please do think of me when it does.

you are the perfect example of the living dead.


* it wasn't just christianity, political deviance played an equally part in shutting your door.

Bless your heart.

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