The Reprehensible Right: Huckabee calls for repeal of 17th Amendment

[Rustic]

“Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee (R) on Friday called for the repeal of the 17th Amendment and the return to senators selected by state legislatures after the Senate GOP's effort to repeal and replace ObamaCare died in a late-night vote.”

Huckabee calls for repeal of 17th Amendment after healthcare failure

Such advocacy of ‘repeal’ is made in bad faith, of course – motivated by rightist partisanism given the majority of the states are controlled by Republicans.

Needless to say, if a majority of the states were controlled by Democrats, we wouldn’t hear anything from the reprehensible right about ‘repealing’ the 17th Amendment.

Huckabee calls himself a man of God.

He want's to screw over the poor and middle class in favor of the rich. More Satan than Sanity.

He said the Obama's were lousy parents for letting their daughters listen to Beyonce.

Son’s Past Could Come Back to Bite Huckabee

Huckabee Squashed Charges Against His Son For Stoning, Hanging Dog

Mike Huckabee, An ordained Baptist minister, a monster.

Only a fool would allow anyone to listen to beyonce, not only is she a really shitty singer her and her husband are really shitty people… Fact

You dumbasses will defend any stupid criticism of Obama regardless of what it is.

They suck ass as singers and as people... admit it. Lol

 

[Billy000]

“Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee (R) on Friday called for the repeal of the 17th Amendment and the return to senators selected by state legislatures after the Senate GOP's effort to repeal and replace ObamaCare died in a late-night vote.”

Huckabee calls for repeal of 17th Amendment after healthcare failure

Such advocacy of ‘repeal’ is made in bad faith, of course – motivated by rightist partisanism given the majority of the states are controlled by Republicans.

Needless to say, if a majority of the states were controlled by Democrats, we wouldn’t hear anything from the reprehensible right about ‘repealing’ the 17th Amendment.

Huckabee calls himself a man of God.

He want's to screw over the poor and middle class in favor of the rich. More Satan than Sanity.

He said the Obama's were lousy parents for letting their daughters listen to Beyonce.

Son’s Past Could Come Back to Bite Huckabee

Huckabee Squashed Charges Against His Son For Stoning, Hanging Dog

Mike Huckabee, An ordained Baptist minister, a monster.

Only a fool would allow anyone to listen to beyonce, not only is she a really shitty singer her and her husband are really shitty people… Fact

You dumbasses will defend any stupid criticism of Obama regardless of what it is.

They suck ass as singers and as people... admit it. Lol

I don't give a fuck about them either way. It's just stupid to throw a tantrum over teenage girls listening to them.

 

[Coyote]

“Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee (R) on Friday called for the repeal of the 17th Amendment and the return to senators selected by state legislatures after the Senate GOP's effort to repeal and replace ObamaCare died in a late-night vote.”

Huckabee calls for repeal of 17th Amendment after healthcare failure

Such advocacy of ‘repeal’ is made in bad faith, of course – motivated by rightist partisanism given the majority of the states are controlled by Republicans.

Needless to say, if a majority of the states were controlled by Democrats, we wouldn’t hear anything from the reprehensible right about ‘repealing’ the 17th Amendment.

Actually I think California did something effectively similar...

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

“Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee (R) on Friday called for the repeal of the 17th Amendment and the return to senators selected by state legislatures after the Senate GOP's effort to repeal and replace ObamaCare died in a late-night vote.”

Huckabee calls for repeal of 17th Amendment after healthcare failure

Such advocacy of ‘repeal’ is made in bad faith, of course – motivated by rightist partisanism given the majority of the states are controlled by Republicans.

Needless to say, if a majority of the states were controlled by Democrats, we wouldn’t hear anything from the reprehensible right about ‘repealing’ the 17th Amendment.

He's absolutely correct. The Senate wasn't created to represent the people; it was created to represent the states. If Senators were still state appointed none of these unfunded mandates would ever see the light of day.

 

[Rustic]

“Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee (R) on Friday called for the repeal of the 17th Amendment and the return to senators selected by state legislatures after the Senate GOP's effort to repeal and replace ObamaCare died in a late-night vote.”

Huckabee calls for repeal of 17th Amendment after healthcare failure

Such advocacy of ‘repeal’ is made in bad faith, of course – motivated by rightist partisanism given the majority of the states are controlled by Republicans.

Needless to say, if a majority of the states were controlled by Democrats, we wouldn’t hear anything from the reprehensible right about ‘repealing’ the 17th Amendment.

Huckabee calls himself a man of God.

He want's to screw over the poor and middle class in favor of the rich. More Satan than Sanity.

He said the Obama's were lousy parents for letting their daughters listen to Beyonce.

Son’s Past Could Come Back to Bite Huckabee

Huckabee Squashed Charges Against His Son For Stoning, Hanging Dog

Mike Huckabee, An ordained Baptist minister, a monster.

Only a fool would allow anyone to listen to beyonce, not only is she a really shitty singer her and her husband are really shitty people… Fact

You dumbasses will defend any stupid criticism of Obama regardless of what it is.

They suck ass as singers and as people... admit it. Lol

I don't give a fuck about them either way. It's just stupid to throw a tantrum over teenage girls listening to them.

Its not even about that... they are hypocrites in every way

 

[Billy000]

Huckabee calls himself a man of God.

He want's to screw over the poor and middle class in favor of the rich. More Satan than Sanity.

He said the Obama's were lousy parents for letting their daughters listen to Beyonce.

Son’s Past Could Come Back to Bite Huckabee

Huckabee Squashed Charges Against His Son For Stoning, Hanging Dog

Mike Huckabee, An ordained Baptist minister, a monster.

Only a fool would allow anyone to listen to beyonce, not only is she a really shitty singer her and her husband are really shitty people… Fact

You dumbasses will defend any stupid criticism of Obama regardless of what it is.

They suck ass as singers and as people... admit it. Lol

I don't give a fuck about them either way. It's just stupid to throw a tantrum over teenage girls listening to them.

Its not even about that... they are hypocrites in every way

I don't care if they are. No one should. You're just a crybaby.

 

[Rustic]

Only a fool would allow anyone to listen to beyonce, not only is she a really shitty singer her and her husband are really shitty people… Fact

You dumbasses will defend any stupid criticism of Obama regardless of what it is.

They suck ass as singers and as people... admit it. Lol

I don't give a fuck about them either way. It's just stupid to throw a tantrum over teenage girls listening to them.

Its not even about that... they are hypocrites in every way

I don't care if they are. No one should. You're just a crybaby.

You're the one that is standing up for the jokers... lol

 

[Harry Dresden]

“Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee (R) on Friday called for the repeal of the 17th Amendment and the return to senators selected by state legislatures after the Senate GOP's effort to repeal and replace ObamaCare died in a late-night vote.”

Huckabee calls for repeal of 17th Amendment after healthcare failure

Such advocacy of ‘repeal’ is made in bad faith, of course – motivated by rightist partisanism given the majority of the states are controlled by Republicans.

Needless to say, if a majority of the states were controlled by Democrats, we wouldn’t hear anything from the reprehensible right about ‘repealing’ the 17th Amendment.

Huckabee calls himself a man of God.

He want's to screw over the poor and middle class in favor of the rich. More Satan than Sanity.

He said the Obama's were lousy parents for letting their daughters listen to Beyonce.

Son’s Past Could Come Back to Bite Huckabee

Huckabee Squashed Charges Against His Son For Stoning, Hanging Dog

Mike Huckabee, An ordained Baptist minister, a monster.

Only a fool would allow anyone to listen to beyonce, not only is she a really shitty singer her and her husband are really shitty people… Fact

You dumbasses will defend any stupid criticism of Obama regardless of what it is.

sounds like many in your party today with trump....just sayin....

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

What's funny here is that the RWnuts don't think that normal, sane people can see right through their support for changing the 17th amendment.

It has NOTHING to do with principle. It has EVERYTHING to do with conservatives once more trying to jigger the system to give undue advantage to conservatives.

Why would this be an advantage to conservatives? Do you think they'd suddenly become more competitive in places like California or Connecticut? Why wouldn't the opposite be just as true for Democrats in Texas or Alabama?

If it wasn't seen as an advantage to conservatives, conservatives wouldn't be widely in support of it.

The problem here is simple,

there's nothing wrong with electing Senators the way we elect them now.

That's not an answer. The question is why do you see it as an advantage.

 

[Rustic]

What's funny here is that the RWnuts don't think that normal, sane people can see right through their support for changing the 17th amendment.

It has NOTHING to do with principle. It has EVERYTHING to do with conservatives once more trying to jigger the system to give undue advantage to conservatives.

Why would this be an advantage to conservatives? Do you think they'd suddenly become more competitive in places like California or Connecticut? Why wouldn't the opposite be just as true for Democrats in Texas or Alabama?

If it wasn't seen as an advantage to conservatives, conservatives wouldn't be widely in support of it.

The problem here is simple,

there's nothing wrong with electing Senators the way we elect them now.

That's not an answer. The question is why do you see it as an advantage.

Bingo!
We need to strengthen the 10th amendment by changing the 17th admendment, The states need to be able to tell the federal government to fuck off a lot more often.

 

[radical right]

That's not an answer. The question is why do you see it as an advantage.

Because the people get to pick who will represent them in washington. Picking the guy, who picks the guy doesn't mean you get the guy you want. Originally the state legislatures picked the president and the senate, but those powers were given to the people for a reason.

 

[Rustic]

That's not an answer. The question is why do you see it as an advantage.

Because the people get to pick who will represent them in washington. Picking the guy, who picks the guy doesn't mean you get the guy you want. Originally the state legislatures picked the president and the senate, but those powers were given to the people for a reason.

If the legislators would've picked the senators from say, South Dakota. We would've never had a piece of shit Tom Daschle… That Would've been a great thing because he did not represent the state whatsoever.
All he ever was/is a corrupt big pharma lobbyist... lol

 

[blackhawk]

No different than the reprehensible left calling for the end of the electoral college when things didn't go there way.

 

[bripat9643]

That's not an answer. The question is why do you see it as an advantage.

Because the people get to pick who will represent them in washington. Picking the guy, who picks the guy doesn't mean you get the guy you want. Originally the state legislatures picked the president and the senate, but those powers were given to the people for a reason.

We don't vote for Supreme Court justices either, so until you start whining about that, you're just a big fat hypocrite.

 

[radical right]

If the legislators would've picked the senators from say, South Dakota. We would've never had a piece of shit Tom Daschle… That Would've been a great thing because he did not represent the state whatsoever.

Or he would have gotten picked until he was too old to serve, because the state legislature recognized his political senority.

 

[radical right]

No different than the reprehensible left calling for the end of the electoral college when things didn't go there way.

Actually it's the opposite. Ending the electoral college gives the electoral power directly to the people.

Repealing the 17th, makes senate elections like the electoral college.

 

[radical right]

We don't vote for Supreme Court justices either, so until you start whining about that, you're just a big fat hypocrite.

They have to be confirmed by the senate. An important safeguard.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

Wrong. The US Constitution imposes no limits on the number of terms a US Senator can serve.

The constitution gives the power of term limits to the states.

Where does it say that? The states have term limits on their governors and several states have term limits on their state representatives.

Interesting though, Alabama Governor George Wallace was against term limits. Are you saying that you side up with George Wallace??

It's called voting them out every 2 years for Reps or every 6 years for Senators.

This begs the question of why though. Why do we need two houses of the legislature with the exact same purpose? The original setup at least makes sense on the face of it: One house to cater to the general public of the state and the other to cater to the state government. Now obviously we could make the argument that there's not that much difference since the state government is elected by the general public of the state, but if we accept that then it still undermines the purpose of the 17th Amendment.

Regardless, having two houses directly answerable to the general public doesn't make sense to me. So, and I ask in all seriousness, why have two? If this is how we're going to do it wouldn't it make more sense to just eliminate one of them?

Read up on The Great Compromise. One house treats all states equally no matter their size and one House takes into consideration the population of each state. Bicameral System.

But why does that matter? If both houses are popularly elected, and at least theoretically accountable to the people, whether they have a number of legislators based on population or an equal number doesn't make a difference, at least as far as I can tell. Again, this notion makes sense, at least on paper, when the two houses serve different functions, but when they serve the same function it becomes irrelevant.

And as an aside, I would say that since the House is capped at 435 it no longer even pretends to serve the function of considering the populations of the states.

 

[bripat9643]

If the legislators would've picked the senators from say, South Dakota. We would've never had a piece of shit Tom Daschle… That Would've been a great thing because he did not represent the state whatsoever.

Or he would have gotten picked until he was too old to serve, because the state legislature recognized his political senority.

How would that be any worse the current situation? When do these senile old fuckers ever retire? McCain is a perfect example.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

What's funny here is that the RWnuts don't think that normal, sane people can see right through their support for changing the 17th amendment.

It has NOTHING to do with principle. It has EVERYTHING to do with conservatives once more trying to jigger the system to give undue advantage to conservatives.

Why would this be an advantage to conservatives? Do you think they'd suddenly become more competitive in places like California or Connecticut? Why wouldn't the opposite be just as true for Democrats in Texas or Alabama?

If it wasn't seen as an advantage to conservatives, conservatives wouldn't be widely in support of it.

The problem here is simple,

there's nothing wrong with electing Senators the way we elect them now.

That's not an answer. The question is why do you see it as an advantage.

Bingo!
We need to strengthen the 10th amendment by changing the 17th admendment, The states need to be able to tell the federal government to fuck off a lot more often.

I'd say that ship has sailed. They have no interest in their sovereignty, they'd rather get federal handouts.