The risk of income inequality

[rightwinger]

Because it's none of your business how much they make is why. Worry about your own position and sack up accept your reality.

Believe it or not- you control it

-Geaux

Yes, it is my business when my government continues policies that help only the wealthy and do not deliver the jobs and prosperity to working Americans that was promised

But it's not the government job to create jobs. That's what business do if allowed by government overreach

-Geaux

Actually, yes...the government can and does create jobs

But that is not what we are talking about. We have slashed taxes, deregulated business, suppressed labor all in the name of supply side economics

The trickel down never occurred. The wealthy kept their wealth and ensured that working Anericans knew their place

 

[ScienceRocks]

JUST SAY NO TO THE TEA PARTY!!!

This is what the tea party is all about...No regulations and the super rich!

 

[dblack]

This is what the tea party is all about...No regulations and the super rich!

Have you ever looked into who writes the regulations?

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Yes, it is my business when my government continues policies that help only the wealthy and do not deliver the jobs and prosperity to working Americans that was promised

But it's not the government job to create jobs. That's what business do if allowed by government overreach

-Geaux

Actually, yes...the government can and does create jobs

But that is not what we are talking about. We have slashed taxes, deregulated business, suppressed labor all in the name of supply side economics

The trickel down never occurred. The wealthy kept their wealth and ensured that working Anericans knew their place

True.

And we have republicans seeking control of the Senate and eventually the WH who want to continue to pursue those same failed conservative economic policies.

 

[bripat9643]

JUST SAY NO TO THE TEA PARTY!!!

This is what the tea party is all about...No regulations and the super rich!

What your post shows is that left-wing turds haven't changed their propaganda memes in over 100 years.

 

[bripat9643]

Yes, it is my business when my government continues policies that help only the wealthy and do not deliver the jobs and prosperity to working Americans that was promised

But it's not the government job to create jobs. That's what business do if allowed by government overreach

-Geaux

Actually, yes...the government can and does create jobs

But that is not what we are talking about. We have slashed taxes, deregulated business, suppressed labor all in the name of supply side economics

The trickel down never occurred. The wealthy kept their wealth and ensured that working Anericans knew their place

mmmm, no. The government dispenses paychecks, but it doesn't create jobs.

 

[ShaklesOfBigGov]

Yes, it is my business when my government continues policies that help only the wealthy and do not deliver the jobs and prosperity to working Americans that was promised

But it's not the government job to create jobs. That's what business do if allowed by government overreach

-Geaux

Actually, yes...the government can and does create jobs

But that is not what we are talking about. We have slashed taxes, deregulated business, suppressed labor all in the name of supply side economics

The trickel down never occurred. The wealthy kept their wealth and ensured that working Anericans knew their place

Has there ever been a government job that's run more efficiently than the private sector? How long does the average commuter have to undergo the enduring process and inconvenience of lane closures off to work on infrastructure (that's if you see any hard hats doing their job).

 

[RandallFlagg]

JUST SAY NO TO THE TEA PARTY!!!

This is what the tea party is all about...No regulations and the super rich!

What your post shows is that left-wing turds haven't changed their propaganda memes in over 100 years.

I'm really curious as to what EXACTLY the believe their recourse is....I mean, a republican gets elected and in their mind - only helped the "rich". The most fascist, socialist democrat in history gets elected and to their mind - he does nothing but help make MORE "rich"

What the hell do they do now?? Grab their pitchforks and raid the "castle"???


I can see it now, the villagers with their pitchforks and torches raiding the castle looking for "Frakenbama".....


What a hoot....

 

[Geaux4it]

I don't care about this rich. BFD..

And I don't look to Uncle Sam to solve my problems

People really need to get a life of independence

-Geaux

 

[Londoner]

You want to help employees earn more? Just flat out cut taxes. The more profits Walmart is able to keep, without any danger of being taxed away, the more likely they are to give pay raises.

Tax hikes are "pass-throughs" to workers and consumers.

Tax reductions (or any windfall) are "pass-throughs" to owners-investors.

Nike workers in Taiwan make $5/day. USA workers make above that rate per hour. Even a zero tax rate would not bridge this gap.

The logic of capital mandates 3rd world Labor Costs. 3rd world labor markets are typically cultivated by freedom hating dictatorships, many installed or protected by advanced industrial nations (who want access to artificially low rates for labor and raw material). The biggest threat to any global supply chain is a freedom loving, well educated, politically active middle class. Why? Because they are more expensive than their sweatshop variants. And they have the power to organize when companies like GE pour toxins in, say, the Hudson (unlike families in Mexico living under dictators).

Uncle Milty's book - which I confess to respecting - should have been entitled "Capitalism and Slavery". Right? Slaves produce the highest returns. This is why many of our largest corporations, like Apple and Nike, have their products manufactured by the next best thing, sweatshop workers.

Labor is an expense. The point is to reduce its cost by any means. Tax reductions will never offset the expense of first world labor markets.

The point of Reaganomics was to minimize the burden of labor on capital. Unfortunately, the reduction of labor costs had the unintended consequence of destroying middle class purchasing power. As a result, we replaced wage-based consumption with debt-based consumption. Starting in the 80s, American families began taking on unprecedented amounts of debt. It worked great for a couple of decades. But now the American consumer is, in the aggreggate, to indebted to borrow enough to meet the needed demand levels for job growth.

I'm not saying that it's possible to return to the pre-Reagan, pre-Globalization wage/benefit structure. There's no going back. I'm just saying we're up shit's creek without a paddle.

 

[Darkwind]

Another delusional soul that thinks wealth is a finite pile of cash from which we all must draw.

You want to talk about actual impediments to upward economic mobility that may prevent a person from "self-insuring themselves against these risks"? Fine, but to blame people that have succeeded in life and self insured themselves against the unforeseen is just asinine. It's akin to suggesting that if a man is hungry, it's because his food was necessarily eaten by a fat man. It's ridiculous.

There may be reasons that we could agree upon that poor people are not achieving that which you suggest is important to obtain, but "wealth inequality" hasn't a damn thing to do with it. To suggest so is only exposing your own jealousy of those that achieved in life that which has alluded you.

If you want to focus on impediments to the poor becoming middle class and the middle class becoming rich, we can talk...but they have to be REAL impediments, not just a thinly veiled and poorly constructed case for even more wealth redistribution.

But that seems to be the salient point here. This "Robin Hood" mentality that exists among those on the left who would rather "take" from someone who has busted his rear end most of his life (although they will tell you that said individual stole it on the backs of the "workers") rather than do something about their own miserable situation lends itself to Marx and Stalin.

To hell with realizing the fruits of your own labor. I WANT IT HANDED TO ME!!! Sounds like spoiled children to me.

The 'Robin Hood' analogy does't even work when speaking of liberals. Robin Hood stole from the government to give back to the people. If one were to actually look at the story of Robin Hood, the 'rich' were the people in power....The Prince, the Sheriff, the Aristocracy.

The progressives want to steal from the every day American and give it to the Aristocracy. Talk about a group of people having it backwards.

 

[rightwinger]

But it's not the government job to create jobs. That's what business do if allowed by government overreach

-Geaux

Actually, yes...the government can and does create jobs

But that is not what we are talking about. We have slashed taxes, deregulated business, suppressed labor all in the name of supply side economics

The trickel down never occurred. The wealthy kept their wealth and ensured that working Anericans knew their place

mmmm, no. The government dispenses paychecks, but it doesn't create jobs.

All Defense industry jobs as well as infrastructure, public building are created by the government

 

[Geaux4it]

Actually, yes...the government can and does create jobs

But that is not what we are talking about. We have slashed taxes, deregulated business, suppressed labor all in the name of supply side economics

The trickel down never occurred. The wealthy kept their wealth and ensured that working Anericans knew their place

mmmm, no. The government dispenses paychecks, but it doesn't create jobs.

All Defense industry jobs as well as infrastructure, public building are created by the government

No, business create a product that sells to the government. The government does not make the company

-Geaux

 

[Geaux4it]

When income inequalities persist, violence ensues.

Well, I'll tell you what....you be the first one to attempt to take what I've earned over the course of a 57 year working life and watch what I do to you....it won't be pretty.

Shut up. You are going to do exactly nothing.

If I was as unprepared as many on this board appear to be, I would be hoping and saying the same thing too

-Geaux

 

[rightwinger]

mmmm, no. The government dispenses paychecks, but it doesn't create jobs.

All Defense industry jobs as well as infrastructure, public building are created by the government

No, business create a product that sells to the government. The government does not make the company

-Geaux

No business builds an aircraft carrier or a road and then asks the government if they want to buy it. Those jobs are directly created by the government. There are thousands of companies created soley to do business with the government

 

[zeke]

All Defense industry jobs as well as infrastructure, public building are created by the government

No, business create a product that sells to the government. The government does not make the company

-Geaux

No business builds an aircraft carrier or a road and then asks the government if they want to buy it. Those jobs are directly created by the government. There are thousands of companies created soley to do business with the government

NO say it ain't so.

You mean to tell me that the billion rounds of ammo that Homeland Security bought is simply the result of the ammo manufactures deciding that they wanted to make a billion rounds of ammo and THEN decided to sell that ammo to the government. Well ain't that interesting.

And the Strike Fighter. Again. A plane manufacturer decided to spend billions of dollars on a plane, then decided to sell it to the government. Right.

Right winger, you are a good man to try and communicate and educate a goforit. Why you bother I don't know.

 

[Geaux4it]

No, business create a product that sells to the government. The government does not make the company

-Geaux

No business builds an aircraft carrier or a road and then asks the government if they want to buy it. Those jobs are directly created by the government. There are thousands of companies created soley to do business with the government

NO say it ain't so.

You mean to tell me that the billion rounds of ammo that Homeland Security bought is simply the result of the ammo manufactures deciding that they wanted to make a billion rounds of ammo and THEN decided to sell that ammo to the government. Well ain't that interesting.

And the Strike Fighter. Again. A plane manufacturer decided to spend billions of dollars on a plane, then decided to sell it to the government. Right.

Right winger, you are a good man to try and communicate and educate a goforit. Why you bother I don't know.

So if I understand you two correctly, you're advocating an increase to the defense budget as a solution to Obama's failed jobs initiatives?

Interesting

-Geaux

 

[rightwinger]

No business builds an aircraft carrier or a road and then asks the government if they want to buy it. Those jobs are directly created by the government. There are thousands of companies created soley to do business with the government

NO say it ain't so.

You mean to tell me that the billion rounds of ammo that Homeland Security bought is simply the result of the ammo manufactures deciding that they wanted to make a billion rounds of ammo and THEN decided to sell that ammo to the government. Well ain't that interesting.

And the Strike Fighter. Again. A plane manufacturer decided to spend billions of dollars on a plane, then decided to sell it to the government. Right.

Right winger, you are a good man to try and communicate and educate a goforit. Why you bother I don't know.

So if I understand you two correctly, you're advocating an increase to the defense budget as a solution to Obama's failed jobs initiatives?

Interesting

-Geaux

No, we are demonstrating to you that the Government does create jobs......millions of them

 

[Geaux4it]

NO say it ain't so.

You mean to tell me that the billion rounds of ammo that Homeland Security bought is simply the result of the ammo manufactures deciding that they wanted to make a billion rounds of ammo and THEN decided to sell that ammo to the government. Well ain't that interesting.

And the Strike Fighter. Again. A plane manufacturer decided to spend billions of dollars on a plane, then decided to sell it to the government. Right.

Right winger, you are a good man to try and communicate and educate a goforit. Why you bother I don't know.

So if I understand you two correctly, you're advocating an increase to the defense budget as a solution to Obama's failed jobs initiatives?

Interesting

-Geaux

No, we are demonstrating to you that the Government does create jobs......millions of them

Then why don't they create millions more?

Problem solved

-Geaux

 

[Geaux4it]

NO say it ain't so.

You mean to tell me that the billion rounds of ammo that Homeland Security bought is simply the result of the ammo manufactures deciding that they wanted to make a billion rounds of ammo and THEN decided to sell that ammo to the government. Well ain't that interesting.

And the Strike Fighter. Again. A plane manufacturer decided to spend billions of dollars on a plane, then decided to sell it to the government. Right.

Right winger, you are a good man to try and communicate and educate a goforit. Why you bother I don't know.

So if I understand you two correctly, you're advocating an increase to the defense budget as a solution to Obama's failed jobs initiatives?

Interesting

-Geaux

No, we are demonstrating to you that the Government does create jobs......millions of them

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-Geaux

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