The Socialist State Provides

[Claudette]

I remember so-called “conservatives” were grabbin’ their pitchforks in OUTRAGE over Obama bailing out the Auto industry for $12B. And they paid back every cent. Think the farmers will be required to repay the US taxpayer? If not this is flat-out Socialism.

But now the Right is a cult who won’t criticize Dear Leader.

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American tax dollars should NEVER be used to bail out any company and no They still owe us.

I don't condone our tax dollars being used to bail out companies that fucked up their pension plans and needed a bail out. Barry granted that loan to pay back the auto industry for supporting him.

As for the farmers? They aren't the only group who get subsidized by the Govt. Don't know about your stupid ass but I like to eat and farmers and ranchers provide the food.

Hell they tried to use TARP money to pay the tax payers back with. TARP money IS tax money.

You sure are one stupid whiny little shit.

 

[Mac1958]

Socialism is evil. Except when it happens under a Republican President.

 

[Anathema]

That’s what I’m asking in the OP. What’s the problem with “conservatives”? Why did they completely abandon the ideology that they’ve been selling for 75 years?

Were “conservatives” lying for 75 years, or are they lying now?

The few of us true Conservatives out here don’t believe in Farm aid any more than disaster relief, Welfare, corporate or foreign aid. The problem is that most Republicans are NOT Conservatives.

 

[IM2]

No, you don't get to pull this bullshit. You guys are the ones always talking about socialism. Here is a classic example of it. The OP is right.

It's fine to point out the hypocrisy. They deserve that. But the OP is disingenuous. I suppose it's an attempt to be clever, but all it really does is point the utter lack of principle in both parties.

This both sides crap has got to go. Both sides are not the problem here.

Huh? Are you actually saying Democrats oppose these subsidies??

I don't oppose the subsidies myself, but what I oppose is a bunch of fucked up, right wing, white racist farmers ranting about how unfair it is for certain people to be getting handouts from the government. That's hypocrisy.

Farmers contribute something essential. If anyone deserves handouts, it's them. They should be first in line ahead of the unproductive single moms in the hood.

Again, we need to grow out of dumbass phase and start deciding that we are going to invest our tax money on us.

 

[IM2]

I don't oppose the subsidies myself ....

Huh, then wouldn't be more honest to say something like "you know, I can't stand Trump, and I don't trust his motives, but subsidizing the farmers was a good thing" ?

Or do you only cheer for welfare state policies with they benefit Democrats politically? Sounds like your only complaint here is that Democrats aren't getting the credit.

Both sides are the problem. Both are playing the same corporatist game of appeasing special interest groups to buy political support.

No both sides aren't the problem. The side that doesn't see the wisdom in using the taxes we pay to invest in each other is the problem.

 

[jknowgood]

What's the problem now?

That’s what I’m asking in the OP. What’s the problem with “conservatives”? Why did they completely abandon the ideology that they’ve been selling for 75 years?

Were “conservatives” lying for 75 years, or are they lying now?

This is not the first time we have helped out farmers. Get over it.

 

[dblack]

I don't oppose the subsidies myself ....

Huh, then wouldn't be more honest to say something like "you know, I can't stand Trump, and I don't trust his motives, but subsidizing the farmers was a good thing" ?

Or do you only cheer for welfare state policies with they benefit Democrats politically? Sounds like your only complaint here is that Democrats aren't getting the credit.

Both sides are the problem. Both are playing the same corporatist game of appeasing special interest groups to buy political support.

No both sides aren't the problem. The side that doesn't see the wisdom in using the taxes we pay to invest in each other is the problem.

LOL - I guess it depends on what you consider to be the problem. "Benes for votes" is what I'm calling bullshit on. Both parties do it.

 

[dblack]

Socialism is evil. Except when it happens under a Republican President.

Nope. It's evil then too.

 

[dblack]

As for the farmers? They aren't the only group who get subsidized by the Govt. Don't know about your stupid ass but I like to eat and farmers and ranchers provide the food.

Then use your own damned money to support farmers and ranchers. Using government to make someone else do it instead is the epitome of liberal-socialist-statist policy.

 

[dblack]

Again, we need to grow out of dumbass phase and start deciding that we are going to invest our tax money on us.

And who is "us"? All of us? Or just the majority?

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Well your Dem politicians are certainly welcome to tell farmers they won’t get a cent from them if elected.

That’s right. They don’t want it. They want to sell their products, not have them rot in storage.

How pathetic that “conservatives” are now cheering the Welfare State.

Are you trying to fool someone? Who said the R's don't have their own version going on?

 

[Synthaholic]

What's the problem now?

That’s what I’m asking in the OP. What’s the problem with “conservatives”? Why did they completely abandon the ideology that they’ve been selling for 75 years?

Were “conservatives” lying for 75 years, or are they lying now?

Prolly both. What do you think? Should government be subsidizing farmers?

Depends on the farmer, but generally no. Definitely no to agri-conglomerates.

 

[Synthaholic]

Well your Dem politicians are certainly welcome to tell farmers they won’t get a cent from them if elected.

That’s right. They don’t want it. They want to sell their products, not have them rot in storage.

How pathetic that “conservatives” are now cheering the Welfare State.

Conservatives cheer the welfare state when it benefits the political welfare of Republicans ...

Whereas Democrats only cheer for the welfare state when it benefits the political welfare of Democrats. Yep, hypocrites galore.

What do you think C? Should government be subsidizing farmers?

No, when it benefits the people who directly receive that “welfare”. That’s when we cheer. Bleeding hearts, remember?

 

[Synthaholic]

What's the problem now?

That’s what I’m asking in the OP. What’s the problem with “conservatives”? Why did they completely abandon the ideology that they’ve been selling for 75 years?

Were “conservatives” lying for 75 years, or are they lying now?

They were lying for 75 years.

And they're lying now.

I never believe one word they say. They are the exact opposite of what they tell people they are.

That's why I became a libertarian, then dropped out altogether....But you still carry the water for the other team of compulsive liars with gusto.

So who are the bigger fucking phony balonies now?

You’re not a libertarian, you’re just anti-Democrat. And that’s the extent of your political beliefs. If you were libertarian you would be echoing Justin Amash.

 

[Synthaholic]

I remember so-called “conservatives” were grabbin’ their pitchforks in OUTRAGE over Obama bailing out the Auto industry for $12B. And they paid back every cent. Think the farmers will be required to repay the US taxpayer? If not this is flat-out Socialism.

But now the

If it wasnt for farm subsidies we would be paying $5 a tomato

Who let the retard in?

 

[JustAGuy1]

I remember so-called “conservatives” were grabbin’ their pitchforks in OUTRAGE over Obama bailing out the Auto industry for $12B. And they paid back every cent. Think the farmers will be required to repay the US taxpayer? If not this is flat-out Socialism.

But now the Right is a cult who won’t criticize Dear Leader.

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Don't be a twit ( I know you can't help it)

"President Franklin D. Roosevelt included farm subsidies in the New Deal. They were originally created to help farmers ravaged by the Dust Bowl and the Great Depression of 1929. 1933: Congress signed the Agricultural Adjustment Act.Dec 12, 2018"

How Farm Subsidies Affect You

 

[Synthaholic]

I never heard you moonbats complain about subsidies in farm country -especially for engine-wrecking ETOH and those goofy windmills- before.

What's the problem now?

No, you don't get to pull this bullshit. You guys are the ones always talking about socialism. Here is a classic example of it. The OP is right.

So, The State owns all the farms?...Are they making any move to nationalize them all?

The OP and you are dopey hacks, who are trying to score a cheap political point....And you've failed.

Under Medicare For All, The State will not own all the hospitals, so it’s not Socialism.

You’re not smart.

 

[Synthaholic]

 

[whitehall]

I remember it different. It might sound good in TDS infected minds but nobody on the right objected to the auto industry bailout. What still has the right wing scratching their heads is the Iran bailout. What the hell was that all about when Hussein ordered boxcar loads of U.S. dollars and euros flown to a country that supports terrorism?

 

[Synthaholic]

And now...Thanks Trump!