The US could Save $5.6B a year if it Switched from Coal to Solar – study

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That should be your claim, while ignoring albedo.

If you understood why daytime temps were cooler you would stop beating a dead horse. Daytime temps wer 2C cooler and nighttime temps were slightly cooler above six solar farms. Why is that?

 

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Because reflecting 5% of incoming solar heats the surface more than reflecting 30%

And yet cooler temperatures were measured above six solar farms. The decreased albedo led to photons being converted into electricity not more heat being radiated by PV cells.

 

[elektra]

Yes I did claim that.

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22K is .0057% of the USA's 3.8 Million sq miles​

Yes, you did claim that. And you afu afk are what you call everyone else, an idiot.

Do you know how to calculate percentages?

People respond to your posts, you call them all kinds of names, you insult them, which to me shows that you really are the stupid one, especially when one considers all the posts we post that proved you wrong and especially when one reads what you just posted and see that you can not do basic math when you have a computer at your fingertips.

All your posts are bullshit, all your ideas are idiotic, and the fact that you cant do math with a computer proves it.

Now that is stupid, getting the math wrong with a computer.

 

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You should definitely amend your original silly claim.

My claim has never changed. Solar panels induce a cooling effect because photons which would have otherwise struck the surface of the planet were converted into electricity. That's my claim. You are the one who went down the rabbit hole of waste heat because you couldn't argue cooler temperatures weren't measured above six solar farms because they were.

 

[elektra]

This says otherwise.

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anomalies are not temperatures

 

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Obviously. An albedo of 0.3 for the surface versus 0.05 for the panel.
Much more warming of the planet.

And yet cooler temperatures were measured above six solar farms. The decreased albedo led to photons being converted into electricity not more heat being radiated by PV cells.

 

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Doesn't take magic for a darker panel to absorb more photons.

And yet cooler temperatures were measured above six solar farms. The decreased albedo led to photons being converted into electricity not more heat being radiated by PV cells.

 

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Did you ever find if you move 100 watts from a panel to the city, how many fewer watts have heated the planet?

Again... incrementally there is no change in waste heat from replacing fossil fuels with solar. Electricity usage and what waste heat there is stays the same regardless of the generating source. But solar radiation absorbed by the surface of the planet is different depending upon the generating source.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Doesn't matter because it's the conversion of photons into electricity that's responsible for the cooling effect. Night time temperatures were only slightly less which indicates that the solar panels shading the surface resulted in less infrared radiation. Solar panels will lose heat much faster than the surface of the planet because there's not much mass there.

it's the conversion of photons into electricity that's responsible for the cooling effect.

Planet-wide cooling? Or local?

Night time temperatures were only slightly less which indicates that the solar panels shading the surface resulted in less infrared radiation.

They shade the shit out of the surface. By absorbing 35% more solar radiation.

Solar panels will lose heat much faster than the surface of the planet

That's only fair, since they absorbed so much more of it.

 

[elektra]

Again... incrementally there is no change in waste heat from replacing fossil fuels with solar. Electricity usage and what waste heat there is stays the same regardless of the generating source. But solar radiation absorbed by the surface of the planet is different depending upon the generating source.

you believe the earth, the desert, wherever you put solar panels, the earth is better when you completely upset what occurs naturally?

 

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Here's your chance. Show how adiabatic processes cause solar panels to cool the planet.

I never said adiabatic processes cause solar panels to cool the planet.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

If you understood why daytime temps were cooler you would stop beating a dead horse.

Was it adiabatic processes?

 

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Less IR at the panels and more in the city. First Law.

Again... incrementally there is no change in waste heat from replacing fossil fuels with solar. Electricity usage and what waste heat there is stays the same regardless of the generating source. But solar radiation absorbed by the surface of the planet is different depending upon the generating source.

 

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What happens to the captured energy when using the electricity creates more photons?

Again... incrementally there is no change in waste heat from replacing fossil fuels with solar. Electricity usage and what waste heat there is stays the same regardless of the generating source. But solar radiation absorbed by the surface of the planet is different depending upon the generating source.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

And yet cooler temperatures were measured above six solar farms. The decreased albedo led to photons being converted into electricity not more heat being radiated by PV cells.

And yet cooler temperatures were measured above six solar farms.

And yet, less radiation reflected back to space.
That added heat is bouncing around the Earth somewhere.

The decreased albedo led to photons being converted into electricity not more heat being radiated by PV cells.

And more heat being radiated by light bulbs, microwaves, toasters, TVs, coffee makers.
Anything that used the electricity.

You have to do all the math, not just half of it. That's what liberals do.

 

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Planet-wide cooling? Or local?

That would depend upon how much solar radiation gets converted into electricity.

 

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They shade the shit out of the surface. By absorbing 35% more solar radiation.

The decreased albedo led to photons being converted into electricity not more heat being radiated by PV cells.

 

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That's only fair, since they absorbed so much more of it.

The decreased albedo led to photons being converted into electricity not more heat being radiated by PV cells.

 

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Was it adiabatic processes?

No.

Magic photons.

 

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And yet, less radiation reflected back to space.
That added heat is bouncing around the Earth somewhere.

The decreased albedo led to photons being converted into electricity not more heat being radiated by PV cells.