There Is No Separation Of Church And State

[PoliticalChic]

8. Now….about religion in our founding documents…..

Trained in government school to prevaricate, the most dishonest actually deny a reference to Jesus Christ in our Constitution. Here is what is found in article seven:
“Attest William Jackson Secretary ..done in Convention by the Unanimous Consent of the States present the Seventeenth Day of September in the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven and of the Independance of the United States of America the Twelfth In witness whereof We have hereunto subscribed our Names,…”
The Constitution of the United States: A Transcription



“Their work was done “in the Year of our Lord.” The Christian world dates all of human history in terms of the birth of Christ. “B.C.” means “before Christ,” and “A.D.” is the abbreviation for the Latin words “anno Domini,” meaning “year of our Lord.”
If the Framers were interested in being pluralistic, multi-cultural, and politically correct, they would have refrained from using the B.C./A.D. designation. Or they would have used the religionless designations “C.E.,” Common Era, and “B.C.E.,” Before the Common Era (see “Common Era,” 2008).


Or they could have used “A.H.” (anno hegirae—which means “in the year of the Hijrah” and refers to Muhammad’s flight from Mecca in A.D. 622), the date used by Muslims as the commencement date for the Islamic calendar.



Instead, the Framers chose to utilize the dating method that indicated the worldview they shared. What’s more, their reference to “our Lord” does not refer to a generic deity, nor does it refer even to God the Father. It refers to God the Son—an explicit reference to Jesus Christ. Make no mistake: the Constitution of the United States contains an explicit reference to Jesus Christ—not Allah, Buddha, Muhammad, nor the gods of Hindus or Native Americans!
Christianity is in the Constitution



Since your secularist mentors have lied about this…imagine how many other lies they’ve taught you.


BTW.......The Founders were even prepared to see themselves as Hebrews.

 

[Seawytch]

Sharia Law is cool to implement here then?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Sharia Law is cool to implement here then?

Do you imagine (I almost said 'think') that Sharia fits with the Constitution....or is Sharia your choice between the two?




Will sharia be accepted as ‘law’?

It will if Democrats/Liberals/Progressives are in charge.

The handwriting is on the wall:

"In a decision that Muslim legal advocates celebrated as a major win, a [United States] federal appeals court on Tuesday agreed with a lower court that blocked an Oklahoma law that would have barred state courts from considering or using Shariah law — the Islamic code of conduct." Federal court deals blow to anti-Shariah efforts - U.S. News




If and when the Democrats are in control.....
....well here’s the Liberal’s house organ, the Washington Post, papering the way:

“…on the whole and with legally imposed hard limitations, sharia courts, using Islamic law, can adapt to the American experience and become a part of the religious arbitration landscape of America.

Islamic courts are becoming common in North America. Muslims are building religious communities in America, and religious courts are part of the structure of many of these communities. These so-called sharia tribunals do what courts everywhere do: They provide a means for hearing and resolving disputes between members of their communities.” https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...america/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.d3b0262ceb1f



A certain variety of fools will accept anything their Democrat Party tells them to.

 

[Rustic]

Sharia Law is cool to implement here then?

Lol
There are communities all over this country that implement sharia law already.... dumbass

 

[Seawytch]

Sharia Law is cool to implement here then?

Do you imagine (I almost said 'think') that Sharia fits with the Constitution....or is Sharia your choice between the two?




Will sharia be accepted as ‘law’?

It will if Democrats/Liberals/Progressives are in charge.

The handwriting is on the wall:

"In a decision that Muslim legal advocates celebrated as a major win, a [United States] federal appeals court on Tuesday agreed with a lower court that blocked an Oklahoma law that would have barred state courts from considering or using Shariah law — the Islamic code of conduct." Federal court deals blow to anti-Shariah efforts - U.S. News




If and when the Democrats are in control.....
....well here’s the Liberal’s house organ, the Washington Post, papering the way:

“…on the whole and with legally imposed hard limitations, sharia courts, using Islamic law, can adapt to the American experience and become a part of the religious arbitration landscape of America.

Islamic courts are becoming common in North America. Muslims are building religious communities in America, and religious courts are part of the structure of many of these communities. These so-called sharia tribunals do what courts everywhere do: They provide a means for hearing and resolving disputes between members of their communities.” https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...america/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.d3b0262ceb1f



A certain variety of fools will accept anything their Democrat Party tells them to.

it's your premise, I'm just asking the question as a non religious observer. There's no difference to me between Muslim Sharia or Christian doctrine. You're obviously cool with a Christian theocracy. You okay with any other?

 

[Seawytch]

Sharia Law is cool to implement here then?

Lol
There are communities all over this country that implement sharia law already.... dumbass

You know that's not true, right?

 

[Rustic]

Sharia Law is cool to implement here then?

Lol
There are communities all over this country that implement sharia law already.... dumbass

You know that's not true, right?

Lol
It is absolutely true… Why wouldn’t it?

 

[Seawytch]

Sharia Law is cool to implement here then?

Lol
There are communities all over this country that implement sharia law already.... dumbass

You know that's not true, right?

Lol
It is absolutely true… Why wouldn’t it?

It absolutely is not. You shouldn't call someone else a dumbass until you fact check first.

Ask PolitiFact: Does Sharia law rule anywhere in the US?

 

[anynameyouwish]

Sharia Law is cool to implement here then?

Lol
There are communities all over this country that implement sharia law already.... dumbass

communities?

define "community"

otherwise.....BS.

 

[Rustic]

Sharia Law is cool to implement here then?

Lol
There are communities all over this country that implement sharia law already.... dumbass

You know that's not true, right?

Lol
It is absolutely true… Why wouldn’t it?

It absolutely is not. You shouldn't call someone else a dumbass until you fact check first.

Ask PolitiFact: Does Sharia law rule anywhere in the US?

Lol
You need to not be so naïve… Political correctness loves sharia law

 

[Rustic]

Sharia Law is cool to implement here then?

Lol
There are communities all over this country that implement sharia law already.... dumbass

communities?

define "community"

otherwise.....BS.

Lol
Dearborne Michigan is one of many… Have you ever been there? It’s a fucked up place

 

[PoliticalChic]

Sharia Law is cool to implement here then?

Do you imagine (I almost said 'think') that Sharia fits with the Constitution....or is Sharia your choice between the two?




Will sharia be accepted as ‘law’?

It will if Democrats/Liberals/Progressives are in charge.

The handwriting is on the wall:

"In a decision that Muslim legal advocates celebrated as a major win, a [United States] federal appeals court on Tuesday agreed with a lower court that blocked an Oklahoma law that would have barred state courts from considering or using Shariah law — the Islamic code of conduct." Federal court deals blow to anti-Shariah efforts - U.S. News




If and when the Democrats are in control.....
....well here’s the Liberal’s house organ, the Washington Post, papering the way:

“…on the whole and with legally imposed hard limitations, sharia courts, using Islamic law, can adapt to the American experience and become a part of the religious arbitration landscape of America.

Islamic courts are becoming common in North America. Muslims are building religious communities in America, and religious courts are part of the structure of many of these communities. These so-called sharia tribunals do what courts everywhere do: They provide a means for hearing and resolving disputes between members of their communities.” https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...america/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.d3b0262ceb1f



A certain variety of fools will accept anything their Democrat Party tells them to.

it's your premise, I'm just asking the question as a non religious observer. There's no difference to me between Muslim Sharia or Christian doctrine. You're obviously cool with a Christian theocracy. You okay with any other?

"There's no difference to me between Muslim Sharia or Christian doctrine."

In a firmament of insane and stupid statements.....this is the winner.

I know you lack an education, and have not the slightest doubt that you are clueless about who Tocqueville is......but, trust me....educated folks know who he was, and have studied his tomes.


Let me quote the one that puts you in your place....last seat in the dumb row:

Although Christianity in its many varieties was the religion of the original colonies, Christianity does not preach operational dominance over the body politic in America. Tocqueville compared this aspect to Islam: “Mohammed professed to derive from Heaven, and has inserted in the Koran, not only religious doctrines, but political maxims, civil and criminal laws, and theories of science. The Gospel, on the contrary, speaks only of the general relations of men to God and to each other, beyond which it inculcates and imposes no point of faith. This alone, besides a thousand other reasons, would suffice to prove that the former of these religions will never long predominate in a cultivated and democratic age, while the latter is destined to retain its sway at these as at all other periods.”
Tocqueville, “Democracy in America,” vol.2, p. 23.



I've come to accept a degree of ignorance in posters.....but you take the cake.
Have you ever.....EVER....read a book not assigned in government school????

 

[PoliticalChic]

9. If our Founders intended to wall religion off at a distance….why would Adams say this:

“Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”
John Adams, 1798



What has been the result of injecting neo-Marxism into our culture?

“…our once-shared acknowledgement of morality and absolute truth has disintegrated. Those who advance this new vision of America are determined to see its fulfillment. We can no longer take for granted that our government officials will embrace the First Amendment and defend the freedoms of expression and belief.”
Do Religion and Morality Still Belong in Our Society?





10. It isn’t that Democrats/Liberals/Marxists don’t have a religion….they do….and they don’t like the competition that the Judeo-Christian one presents.

It is the faith of our Founders, versus this one:

From the Amazon review of Godless, by Coulter…


Though liberalism rejects the idea of God and reviles people of faith, it bears all the attributes of a religion. In Godless, Coulter throws open the doors of the Church of Liberalism, showing us its sacraments (abortion), its holy writ (Roe v. Wade), its martyrs (from Soviet spy Alger Hiss to cop-killer Mumia Abu-Jamal), its clergy (public school teachers), its churches (government schools, where prayer is prohibited but condoms are free), its doctrine of infallibility (as manifest in the "absolute moral authority" of spokesmen from Cindy Sheehan to Max Cleland), and its cosmology (in which mankind is an inconsequential accident).

Then, of course, there's the liberal creation myth: Charles Darwin's theory of evolution.

For liberals, evolution is the touchstone that separates the enlightened from the benighted.
And....Franklin Delano Roosevelt, "...the Socialist Savior of the Democratic Party."

the Catechism: you didn't build that.....any success is just dumb luck


Sen. Mazie Hirono (D., Hawaii) on Tuesday called for liberal activists to believe in climate change as if it were a "religion."
Dem Senator Hirono: Believe in Climate Change Like a Religion

 

[PoliticalChic]

Sharia Law is cool to implement here then?

Lol
There are communities all over this country that implement sharia law already.... dumbass

You know that's not true, right?

Lol
It is absolutely true… Why wouldn’t it?

It absolutely is not. You shouldn't call someone else a dumbass until you fact check first.

Ask PolitiFact: Does Sharia law rule anywhere in the US?

PolitiFact Proves Yet Again It Is a Left Wing Attack Machine With Nonpartisan Veneer
PolitiFact Proves Yet Again It Is a Left Wing Attack Machine With Nonpartisan Veneer



"When a controversy emerged during the 2008 presidential campaign over Obama’s ties to the AAAN, the liberal-oriented “PolitiFact” website called it a non-controversial group that focused on “local initiatives” and “has no foreign policy.”

But one target of the FBI investigation is alleged support provided to the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP), a Marxist group designated a “foreign terrorist organization” by the U.S. Secretary of State. U.S. law prohibits U.S.-based groups or individuals from providing support to foreign terrorist groups."
Helen Thomas to be Honored by Arab Group Raided by FBI




PolitiFact is run by the St. Petersburg Times and has marketed itself to other news organizations on the pretense of impartiality. Like other "fact checking" enterprises, its animating conceit is that opinions are what ideologues have, when in reality PolitiFact's curators also have political views and values that influence their judgments about facts and who is right in any debate. "
Review & Outlook: PolitiFiction - WSJ.com


You just proved Reagan correct:
“It isn't so much that liberals are ignorant. It's just that they know so many things that aren't so.”

 

[anynameyouwish]

9. If our Founders intended to wall religion off at a distance….why would Adams say this:

“Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”
John Adams, 1798



What has been the result of injecting neo-Marxism into our culture?

“…our once-shared acknowledgement of morality and absolute truth has disintegrated. Those who advance this new vision of America are determined to see its fulfillment. We can no longer take for granted that our government officials will embrace the First Amendment and defend the freedoms of expression and belief.”
Do Religion and Morality Still Belong in Our Society?





10. It isn’t that Democrats/Liberals/Marxists don’t have a religion….they do….and they don’t like the competition that the Judeo-Christian one presents.

It is the faith of our Founders, versus this one:

From the Amazon review of Godless, by Coulter…


Though liberalism rejects the idea of God and reviles people of faith, it bears all the attributes of a religion. In Godless, Coulter throws open the doors of the Church of Liberalism, showing us its sacraments (abortion), its holy writ (Roe v. Wade), its martyrs (from Soviet spy Alger Hiss to cop-killer Mumia Abu-Jamal), its clergy (public school teachers), its churches (government schools, where prayer is prohibited but condoms are free), its doctrine of infallibility (as manifest in the "absolute moral authority" of spokesmen from Cindy Sheehan to Max Cleland), and its cosmology (in which mankind is an inconsequential accident).

Then, of course, there's the liberal creation myth: Charles Darwin's theory of evolution.

For liberals, evolution is the touchstone that separates the enlightened from the benighted.
And....Franklin Delano Roosevelt, "...the Socialist Savior of the Democratic Party."

the Catechism: you didn't build that.....any success is just dumb luck


Sen. Mazie Hirono (D., Hawaii) on Tuesday called for liberal activists to believe in climate change as if it were a "religion."
Dem Senator Hirono: Believe in Climate Change Like a Religion

adams may have had the best of intentions, no doubt, but he was wrong.

Why do you want to take my rights?

Why do you want to deny me the same rights and privileges as you?

I don't believe in your god
I don't believe in ANY god
but my family (been checked and verified) arrived on the very same Mayflower you believe proves everyone in the USA MUST obey christian law so I guess I am as American as anyone and MORE so than most! (ya damned interfering immigrant!...when did YOUR family first infest our shores?)

I am not the evil person you keep trying to get me killed for.
I'm a fkn nice guy!

I have family, I don't eat babies, I love my kids, I don't worship satan, I watch a lot of old movies, I have NEVER read the communist manifesto, I LOVE IT when team USA beats other countries!, I'm proud of all the good and great things our country, our government and our people have done for each other and for so many other countries, I hate ALL terrorists and extremists (hence my distaste for you), I am pleasant and courteous to everyone I meet throughout the day. I know most of my usual cashiers by name and we always discuss the weather, how busy it is or isn't, hows the family.....

and it really pisses me off that you keep telling people how EVIL I am and how SOMETHING MUST BE DONE about people like me!

You're practically trying to get me killed!

I wish you'd stop.

 

[anynameyouwish]

Sharia Law is cool to implement here then?

Lol
There are communities all over this country that implement sharia law already.... dumbass

communities?

define "community"

otherwise.....BS.

Lol
Dearborne Michigan is one of many… Have you ever been there? It’s a fucked up place

debunked

nonsense


lies

did trump tell you this?

or rush?

fox news?

breitbart?

which lying conservative media outlet told you this?

american stinker?
national review?
reason?

 

[PoliticalChic]

9. If our Founders intended to wall religion off at a distance….why would Adams say this:

“Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”
John Adams, 1798



What has been the result of injecting neo-Marxism into our culture?

“…our once-shared acknowledgement of morality and absolute truth has disintegrated. Those who advance this new vision of America are determined to see its fulfillment. We can no longer take for granted that our government officials will embrace the First Amendment and defend the freedoms of expression and belief.”
Do Religion and Morality Still Belong in Our Society?





10. It isn’t that Democrats/Liberals/Marxists don’t have a religion….they do….and they don’t like the competition that the Judeo-Christian one presents.

It is the faith of our Founders, versus this one:

From the Amazon review of Godless, by Coulter…


Though liberalism rejects the idea of God and reviles people of faith, it bears all the attributes of a religion. In Godless, Coulter throws open the doors of the Church of Liberalism, showing us its sacraments (abortion), its holy writ (Roe v. Wade), its martyrs (from Soviet spy Alger Hiss to cop-killer Mumia Abu-Jamal), its clergy (public school teachers), its churches (government schools, where prayer is prohibited but condoms are free), its doctrine of infallibility (as manifest in the "absolute moral authority" of spokesmen from Cindy Sheehan to Max Cleland), and its cosmology (in which mankind is an inconsequential accident).

Then, of course, there's the liberal creation myth: Charles Darwin's theory of evolution.

For liberals, evolution is the touchstone that separates the enlightened from the benighted.
And....Franklin Delano Roosevelt, "...the Socialist Savior of the Democratic Party."

the Catechism: you didn't build that.....any success is just dumb luck


Sen. Mazie Hirono (D., Hawaii) on Tuesday called for liberal activists to believe in climate change as if it were a "religion."
Dem Senator Hirono: Believe in Climate Change Like a Religion

adams may have had the best of intentions, no doubt, but he was wrong.

Why do you want to take my rights?

Why do you want to deny me the same rights and privileges as you?

I don't believe in your god
I don't believe in ANY god
but my family (been checked and verified) arrived on the very same Mayflower you believe proves everyone in the USA MUST obey christian law so I guess I am as American as anyone and MORE so than most! (ya damned interfering immigrant!...when did YOUR family first infest our shores?)

I am not the evil person you keep trying to get me killed for.
I'm a fkn nice guy!

I have family, I don't eat babies, I love my kids, I don't worship satan, I watch a lot of old movies, I have NEVER read the communist manifesto, I LOVE IT when team USA beats other countries!, I'm proud of all the good and great things our country, our government and our people have done for each other and for so many other countries, I hate ALL terrorists and extremists (hence my distaste for you), I am pleasant and courteous to everyone I meet throughout the day. I know most of my usual cashiers by name and we always discuss the weather, how busy it is or isn't, hows the family.....

and it really pisses me off that you keep telling people how EVIL I am and how SOMETHING MUST BE DONE about people like me!

You're practically trying to get me killed!

I wish you'd stop.

"Why do you want to take my rights?

Why do you want to deny me the same rights and privileges as you?"


Poor, poor mud.

You're so very ignorant.....you probably don't recognize that you can't come up with any rights or privileges you've lost or had denied.....



But you did prove what Coulter said:

"Let me give you a little tip: if you want liberalism to continue in this country, you have to realize that liberal students are being let down by their professors! They have liberal school teachers, and read the liberal press! Because of this weak preparation, they are unable to argue, to think beyond the first knee-jerk impulse. They can’t put together a logical thought. Now, compare that to a college Republican…"

 

[Rustic]

Sharia Law is cool to implement here then?

Lol
There are communities all over this country that implement sharia law already.... dumbass

communities?

define "community"

otherwise.....BS.

Lol
Dearborne Michigan is one of many… Have you ever been there? It’s a fucked up place

debunked

nonsense


lies

did trump tell you this?

or rush?

fox news?

breitbart?

which lying conservative media outlet told you this?

american stinker?
national review?
reason?

Lol
I’ve been there... It’s a fucked up place

 

[PoliticalChic]

11. As for the famous “separation of church and state,” the phrase appears in no federal document. In fact, at the time of ratification of the Constitution, ten of the thirteen colonies had some provision recognizing Christianity as either the official, or the recommended religion in their state constitutions.

From the 1790 Massachusetts Constitution, written by John Adams, includes: [the] good order and preservation of civil gohuvernment essentially depend(s) upon piety, religion, and morality…by the institution of public worship of God and of the public instruction in piety, religion, and morality…”Constitution of Massachusetts - Wikipedia


North Carolina Constitution, article 32, 1776: “That no person who shall deny the being of God, or the truth of the Protestant religion, or the divine authority of either the Old or New Testaments, or who shall hold religious principles incompatible with the freedom and safety of the State, shall b e capable of holding any office, or place of trust or profit, in the civil department, within this State.”
Constitution of North Carolina, 1776



So, the Founders intention was to be sure that the federal government didn’t do the same, and mandate a national religion. And when Jefferson wrote to the Danbury Baptists in 1802, it was to reassure them the federal government could not interfere in their religious observations, i.e., there is “a wall of separation between church and state.”

He wasn’t speaking of religion contaminating the government, but of the government contaminating religious observance.



The Russian Revolution was an extension of the French one, and ultimately cost over 100 million human lives.
Even in the 19th century, as religious conviction waned, the warnings were there. Ivan Karamazov, in “The Brothers Karamazov,” exclaimed ‘if God does not exist, then everything is permitted.’

Mass murder included.


"We must rid ourselves once and for all of the Quaker-Papist babble about the sanctity of human life." Leon Trotsky

This is why the major political party, the Democrat, can endorse infanticide and racism, and still be considered a choice for governing: because the views of our Founders are ignored.

 

[anynameyouwish]

11. As for the famous “separation of church and state,” the phrase appears in no federal document. In fact, at the time of ratification of the Constitution, ten of the thirteen colonies had some provision recognizing Christianity as either the official, or the recommended religion in their state constitutions.

From the 1790 Massachusetts Constitution, written by John Adams, includes: [the] good order and preservation of civil gohuvernment essentially depend(s) upon piety, religion, and morality…by the institution of public worship of God and of the public instruction in piety, religion, and morality…”Constitution of Massachusetts - Wikipedia


North Carolina Constitution, article 32, 1776: “That no person who shall deny the being of God, or the truth of the Protestant religion, or the divine authority of either the Old or New Testaments, or who shall hold religious principles incompatible with the freedom and safety of the State, shall b e capable of holding any office, or place of trust or profit, in the civil department, within this State.”
Constitution of North Carolina, 1776



So, the Founders intention was to be sure that the federal government didn’t do the same, and mandate a national religion. And when Jefferson wrote to the Danbury Baptists in 1802, it was to reassure them the federal government could not interfere in their religious observations, i.e., there is “a wall of separation between church and state.”

He wasn’t speaking of religion contaminating the government, but of the government contaminating religious observance.



The Russian Revolution was an extension of the French one, and ultimately cost over 100 million human lives.
Even in the 19th century, as religious conviction waned, the warnings were there. Ivan Karamazov, in “The Brothers Karamazov,” exclaimed ‘if God does not exist, then everything is permitted.’

Mass murder included.


"We must rid ourselves once and for all of the Quaker-Papist babble about the sanctity of human life." Leon Trotsky

This is why the major political party, the Democrat, can endorse infanticide and racism, and still be considered a choice for governing: because the views of our Founders are ignored.

yawn


boring


tired