There Was No Plan From The Trump Administration To Move Civilians Out: Report

[BWK]

amazing? well the illogical mind bending leaps they go through to blame others is…but then blaming others is no surprising. It’s typical. Libs can’t take responsibly for anything, it’s their nature and frankly why they are so attracted to the leftist policy

When you resort to attacking the Libs and not debating the subject, you are losing.

Do people like you have any common sense logical thinking skills? Seriously?

Do you know anything about the visa process? It takes almost six weeks on average, and a minimum of three. Plus getting approval through the mail. Times 45,000 people, - Trump and Miller putting the breaks on the visas, because of their racist Muslim ban, no one is to blame more than those two. But you don't have any common sense skills to logically figure that out on your own. Your shallow political narrative does all your thinking for you. Which means you choose not to think for yourself. Your political narrative has to blame another boogey man, because you have no argument. The "blame Biden card" is totally retarded. And anyone with a functioning brain and an ounce of honesty knows it. Go back into your hole. You only come out when I leave the debate anyway. And stop being a coward. You can either lock horns with me or you can't. Running away when I'm still here is a cowards game. Man up buddy.

 

[BWK]

With all due respect, Brutha...Biden in his press conference said the buck stops with him and then proceeded to blame everything that had gone wrong on someone else. If that's your definition of "manning up", I find your take on it rather amusing.

Biden was right. Do you know anything about the visa process?

 

[BWK]

if biden is so brilliant why didn't he see the flaw in Trumps plan?
you should remember Biden undone everything President Trump did.
It only takes a braindead idiot to believe that Biden would just this once follow through and use one of Presidents Trumps plan.

So, Trump's plan was stupid?

 

[struth]

When you resort to attacking the Libs and not debating the subject, you are losing.

Do people like you have any common sense logical thinking skills? Seriously?

Do you know anything about the visa process? It takes almost six weeks on average, and a minimum of three. Plus getting approval through the mail. Times 45,000 people, - Trump and Miller putting the breaks on the visas, because of their racist Muslim ban, no one is to blame more than those two. But you don't have any common sense skills to logically figure that out on your own. Your shallow political narrative does all your thinking for you. Which means you choose not to think for yourself. Your political narrative has to blame another boogey man, because you have no argument. The "blame Biden card" is totally retarded. And anyone with a functioning brain and an ounce of honesty knows it. Go back into your hole. You only come out when I leave the debate anyway. And stop being a coward. You can either lock horns with me or you can't. Running away when I'm still here is a cowards game. Man up buddy.

I was just responding to the poster.

This entire thread is about blaming someone else....and ignoring the topic. The topic isn't what Trump had in place a year ago, because it's not relevant. We weren't leaving then, we didn't leave....

Xiden did now. Let's address the topic

 

[BWK]

Maizie will give blow jobs to survive. And she is to much of a beast to last long.

Wow, what a coward you are.

 

[BWK]

I was just responding to the poster.

This entire thread is about blaming someone else....and ignoring the topic. The topic isn't what Trump had in place a year ago, because it's not relevant. We weren't leaving then, we didn't leave....

Xiden did now. Let's address the topic

It was a plan two years ago. You don't know math either. Trump had two years to get his shit together on visas, and he stopped it. That's on him.

That said, leaving was always going to be tough, with visas or not. So blaming Biden once again is for cowards who seek a political narrative, not the truth. That would be you. Boss, you have no logical argument here. You are finished. Why? Because you never had an argument. And you never will.

Is this entire thread about blaming someone? I don't give two shits whether it is or it isn't. The documented facts support who is to blame here. And Biden took his hit for leaving, and he stands by it. He knows, just like any other human with a brain, that leaving was going to be messy no matter what. He is a hero for getting us out of a war with no mission.

 

[DGS49]

Had our beloved former President had a "plan" to remove American civilians, or started doing so conspicuously, it would have been interpreted by ALL observers as an acknowledgement that the residual government was going to fail, spectacularly. While most of "us" believed that to be the case, it would have been extremely impolitic for ANY President to do so, and he would have been publicly excoriated for it.

President Trump had the Taliban convinced that if they fucked with him or with American interests, there would be a heavy price to pay. It's called, "deterrence."

With a big pussy in the White House that deterrence evaporated.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

When you resort to attacking the Libs and not debating the subject, you are losing.

Do people like you have any common sense logical thinking skills? Seriously?

Do you know anything about the visa process? It takes almost six weeks on average, and a minimum of three. Plus getting approval through the mail. Times 45,000 people, - Trump and Miller putting the breaks on the visas, because of their racist Muslim ban, no one is to blame more than those two. But you don't have any common sense skills to logically figure that out on your own. Your shallow political narrative does all your thinking for you. Which means you choose not to think for yourself. Your political narrative has to blame another boogey man, because you have no argument. The "blame Biden card" is totally retarded. And anyone with a functioning brain and an ounce of honesty knows it. Go back into your hole. You only come out when I leave the debate anyway. And stop being a coward. You can either lock horns with me or you can't. Running away when I'm still here is a cowards game. Man up buddy.

They don’t care at all about evacuating those people. They certainly don’t want them coming here. They only care about using this to beat up the Dems politically. This was by design. Pompeo is talking all kinds of shit except why his state dept didn’t build a robust system for expediting these visas.
Bush did the same thing to Obama in Iraq. Set a deadline well within the next guy’s term, make no arrangements necessary to actually do it and then blame the Dems when there are problems.
It’s so deeply cynical and unAmerican as to almost be treasonous.

 

[BWK]

Had our beloved former President had a "plan" to remove American civilians, or started doing so conspicuously, it would have been interpreted by ALL observers as an acknowledgement that the residual government was going to fail, spectacularly. While most of "us" believed that to be the case, it would have been extremely impolitic for ANY President to do so, and he would have been publicly excoriated for it.

President Trump had the Taliban convinced that if they fucked with him or with American interests, there would be a heavy price to pay. It's called, "deterrence."

With a big pussy in the White House that deterrence evaporated.

This is total nonsense. Trump and Miller abandoned the visa program, setting the stage for a screw up. Biden made the best of an already bad plan signed by the Trump administration, minus visas, plus their own racist Muslim ban. They had a Muslim ban. Helping these folks was never an option for Trump and Miller. Fast forward to 2021, and this is the result. Your former president had a "plan" alright. It just didn't include the Afghans who helped us, or a deterrence by the Taliban.

As always, the Left has to mop up the mess of the Right.

 

[BWK]

They don’t care at all about evacuating those people. They certainly don’t want them coming here. They only care about using this to beat up the Dems politically. This was by design. Pompeo is talking all kinds of shit except why his state dept didn’t build a robust system for expediting these visas.
Bush did the same thing to Obama in Iraq. Set a deadline well within the next guy’s term, make no arrangements necessary to actually do it and then blame the Dems when there are problems.
It’s so deeply cynical and unAmerican as to almost be treasonous.

That's right, Pompeo is talking shit. What else can they do?

The Right scapegoats everyone if you think about it. They scapegoat illegals for our eighty year imperialist movement that has turned Central America into one big refugee camp. It's always someone else. Why? Because the Right only has tunnel vision. And what is that vision? Self enrichment! Self aggrandizement! That is what these folks are about. And they are willing to throw anyone under the bus to get there.

 

[struth]

It was a plan two years ago. You don't know math either. Trump had two years to get his shit together on visas, and he stopped it. That's on him.

That said, leaving was always going to be tough, with visas or not. So blaming Biden once again is for cowards who seek a political narrative, not the truth. That would be you. Boss, you have no logical argument here. You are finished. Why? Because you never had an argument. And you never will.

Is this entire thread about blaming someone? I don't give two shits whether it is or it isn't. The documented facts support who is to blame here. And Biden took his hit for leaving, and he stands by it. He knows, just like any other human with a brain, that leaving was going to be messy no matter what. He is a hero for getting us out of a war with no mission.

haha trump wasn’t taking anyone out until conditions were met. This is all xiden’s fault. all xiden’s doing

no it was not always going to be a mess…this was done because of the dembots

 

[bigrebnc1775]

So, Trump's plan was stupid?

biden didn't use president Trump's plan so we'll never know.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

It was a plan two years ago. You don't know math either. Trump had two years to get his shit together on visas, and he stopped it. That's on him.

That said, leaving was always going to be tough, with visas or not. So blaming Biden once again is for cowards who seek a political narrative, not the truth. That would be you. Boss, you have no logical argument here. You are finished. Why? Because you never had an argument. And you never will.

Is this entire thread about blaming someone? I don't give two shits whether it is or it isn't. The documented facts support who is to blame here. And Biden took his hit for leaving, and he stands by it. He knows, just like any other human with a brain, that leaving was going to be messy no matter what. He is a hero for getting us out of a war with no mission.

biden didn't use president Trump's plan

 

[bigrebnc1775]

They don’t care at all about evacuating those people.

you are correct biden and obama didn't care about people left behind or have you forgotten about the four obama left to die at the hands of isis terrorists the JV team at Benghazi

 

[bigrebnc1775]

With all due respect, Brutha...Biden in his press conference said the buck stops with him and then proceeded to blame everything that had gone wrong on someone else. If that's your definition of "manning up", I find your take on it rather amusing.

biden took the playbook from obama and still fucked that up.

 

[BWK]

haha trump wasn’t taking anyone out until conditions were met. This is all xiden’s fault. all xiden’s doing

no it was not always going to be a mess…this was done because of the dembots

As always, you keep stumbling over your own argument. If Trump wasn't taking anyone out, then why start a visa program, then stop it? And why did Trump say he was getting everyone out by the end of December 2020? Obviously conditions had been met, or he would have never said that. So there goes your "conditions were met" nonsense. LOl! Dude, try as you might, you are tripping up on so much bs, you can't keep up. What you are saying and claiming runs counter to what Trump said and what he did, and did not do. Trump had a visa program, until he didn't, then he said he was pulling out at the end of 2020. Which is it? You are posting like the chicken with the head cut off by tossing crap up against the wall, to see what sticks in defense of this loser Trump. You still keep making a fool of yourself because of him. You just aren't smart enough to wiggle out of an argument, you lost before you started.

 

[struth]

As always, you keep stumbling over your own argument. If Trump wasn't taking anyone out, then why start a visa program, then stop it? And why did Trump say he was getting everyone out by the end of December 2020? Obviously conditions had been met, or he would have never said that. So there goes your "conditions were met" nonsense. LOl! Dude, try as you might, you are tripping up on so much bs, you can't keep up. What you are saying and claiming runs counter to what Trump said and what he did, and did not do. Trump had a visa program, until he didn't, then he said he was pulling out at the end of 2020. Which is it? You are posting like the chicken with the head cut off by tossing crap up against the wall, to see what sticks in defense of this loser Trump. You still keep making a fool of yourself because of him. You just aren't smart enough to wiggle out of an argument, you lost before you started.

trump didn’t start a visa program. we’ve always had a visa program

trump has absolutely nothing to do with what xiden has done and failed to do in adggan

 

[BWK]

biden didn't use president Trump's plan so we'll never know.

Trump's plan was to leave at the end of 2020. He didn't do it. Trump's plan was to process some 45,000 visas. He didn't do that either. Whatever plan you thought he had, never existed. What he did do, was sign an agreement with the Taliban to leave. That's not a plan. That's an agreement to leave.

 

[struth]

Trump's plan was to leave at the end of 2020. He didn't do it. Trump's plan was to process some 45,000 visas. He didn't do that either. Whatever plan you thought he had, never existed. What he did do, was sign an agreement with the Taliban to leave. That's not a plan. That's an agreement to leave.

trump had no plan to leave at the end of 2020

regardless trump has nothing to do with xiden disaster

 

[BWK]

trump didn’t start a visa program. we’ve always had a visa program

trump has absolutely nothing to do with what xiden has done and failed to do in adggan

And Trump was going to process 45,000 Afghans. That didn't happen. what good are conditions without visas? Once again you keep falling on an un win able argument. Don't you have enough sense to understand that?

Biden, through zero help from Trump, is getting Americans and Afghans out. Had Trump done his job, it would have been much smoother. Scapegoating Biden is nothing more than a cowards game, while Trump failed on multiple fronts to do what he said he was going to do. That's documented and indisputable. You keep losing, because you aren't presenting us with any intelligent or informative counter arguments. Make a fool of yourself all you want. That's on you, if you want to keep beating a dead horse. But you are surrounded by information and the truth. But please, do continue. You will just keep getting destroyed over the facts.