thursday at 9pm on MSNBC you will know why we went into Iraq

The far left cultists believing their media outlets.

She's not stating anything that's outlandish.

We have a HUGE military. We spend ALOT of money on it.

And there is pressure both to use it and to make the world bend to our will.

That's not a good combination.
 
Bottom line is: I don't care why we went into Iraq, all I want now is an apology for doing so.
There is no excuse for the Blood or Treasure we wasted on that hellhole.

Do you believe the United States should live up to our treaties and agreements?.

When treaties get us involved in wars like Iraq and Vietnam, No we should never have been involved in treaties like that. Our politicians have to learn to do what is best for the US.
End of Story

And because we have all begun to notice the typically Liberal characteristics of short sightedness and how their decisions are prone to hatching an inordinate number of unintended consequences, we must acknowledge these wars and national problems were the result of too much Liberal influence in Government.
 
The far left cultists believing their media outlets.

She's not stating anything that's outlandish.

We have a HUGE military. We spend ALOT of money on it.

And there is pressure both to use it and to make the world bend to our will.

That's not a good combination.

That's Liberal involvement and influence that makes this true to whatever extent it is.
 
Those who are curious do; I watch Fox News and listen to Rush Limbaugh because I'm curious as to what will be posted on this forum in the immediate future. The incurious and willfully ignorant self censor, some out of fear they may learn something which challenges the dogma they hold true, others because they have accepted the dogma and believe anyone who challenges it is a Commie or the Antichrist.
I watch Saturday Night Live so I'll know what the left's political talking points will be.
 
2012

Obama: the 80s called they want their foreign policy back

Laughter

2014

Putin called he wants the Ukraine back

Obama: that's not funny

Sent from my Chinese Supercomputer made from XBox parts Bush sent to China
 
Ms. Maddow does have some valid points.

MSNBC's Rachel Maddow: Bush to blame for Ukraine - Washington Times

MSNBC host Rachel Maddow asserted Monday that George W. Bush, who exited office in 2009, is ultimately at fault for the current Ukrainian crisis.

Ms. Maddow told colleague Andrea Mitchell that Mr. Bush’s entire Middle East policy has led to several overseas conflicts, from the Iraq War to the ongoing Russia-Ukraine dispute.

“The decisions of our generation on national security are determined more than anything by what the George W. Bush administration did with that nine-year war in Iraq and, alongside it, a 13-year war in Afghanistan that’s still going on,” Ms. Maddow said during a discussion about her new documentary, “Why We Did It.”

“Those are the determinative constraints for our thinking about everything, from Crimea, to Syria, to what the overall size of the U.S. military is,” she said.
I missed the support for her assertion. Does she connect the dots and if so, why didn't you post that portion?
 
they have the PROOF of why we went to Iraq.



PROOF


cold hard proof


Just curious.

How do you know it's cold, hard proof if you haven't seen it?

.

they are using the government documents to show why.

You see they did the research into WHY and found government documents that go all they way back to the Carter admin and sussed out WHY this was pursued as policy.



You people hate facts and documentation so you will deny anything that is said in the documentary.


You will likely just call everyone involved names and say its all lies without giving one ounce of evidence that anything is not documented.

Its how the right now does their business

Childish insults and fact denial
 
Ms. Maddow does have some valid points.

MSNBC's Rachel Maddow: Bush to blame for Ukraine - Washington Times

MSNBC host Rachel Maddow asserted Monday that George W. Bush, who exited office in 2009, is ultimately at fault for the current Ukrainian crisis.

Ms. Maddow told colleague Andrea Mitchell that Mr. Bush’s entire Middle East policy has led to several overseas conflicts, from the Iraq War to the ongoing Russia-Ukraine dispute.

“The decisions of our generation on national security are determined more than anything by what the George W. Bush administration did with that nine-year war in Iraq and, alongside it, a 13-year war in Afghanistan that’s still going on,” Ms. Maddow said during a discussion about her new documentary, “Why We Did It.”

“Those are the determinative constraints for our thinking about everything, from Crimea, to Syria, to what the overall size of the U.S. military is,” she said.

Only if one accepts her fantasy that Bush 's order to invade was unwarranted.

It had the law behind it. It had the Democrat's approval. Saddam could have made clear his lack of WMD's if that was the case or fess up and/or dispose of them. He was also given time to remove himself and spare the country.

Maddow NEEDS to have a reason to attack the Right and especially Bush, so she conveniently furthers the false narrative that W was a total megalomaniacal renegade cowboy dunce nazi war criminal and has drawn at least SOME of the arrows away from Dear Leader.

She is a regular manipulator.

And those who fall for her manipulations are possessed of bad judgment.

So bad, in fact, they don't even recognize how much and how often her rationales cause them to be ridiculed on these pages.

It takes MORE than having good intentions.
 
um; leftard; MSNBC isnt exactly known for facts. propaganda maybe; or twisting "facts" into their own reality maybe. but facts; no
 
Ms. Maddow does have some valid points.

MSNBC's Rachel Maddow: Bush to blame for Ukraine - Washington Times

MSNBC host Rachel Maddow asserted Monday that George W. Bush, who exited office in 2009, is ultimately at fault for the current Ukrainian crisis.

Ms. Maddow told colleague Andrea Mitchell that Mr. Bush’s entire Middle East policy has led to several overseas conflicts, from the Iraq War to the ongoing Russia-Ukraine dispute.

“The decisions of our generation on national security are determined more than anything by what the George W. Bush administration did with that nine-year war in Iraq and, alongside it, a 13-year war in Afghanistan that’s still going on,” Ms. Maddow said during a discussion about her new documentary, “Why We Did It.”

“Those are the determinative constraints for our thinking about everything, from Crimea, to Syria, to what the overall size of the U.S. military is,” she said.

Only if one accepts her fantasy that Bush 's order to invade was unwarranted.

It had the law behind it. It had the Democrat's approval. Saddam could have made clear his lack of WMD's if that was the case or fess up and/or dispose of them. He was also given time to remove himself and spare the country.

Maddow NEEDS to have a reason to attack the Right and especially Bush, so she conveniently furthers the false narrative that W was a total megalomaniacal renegade cowboy dunce nazi war criminal and has drawn at least SOME of the arrows away from Dear Leader.

She is a regular manipulator.

And those who fall for her manipulations are possessed of bad judgment.

So bad, in fact, they don't even recognize how much and how often her rationales cause them to be ridiculed on these pages.

It takes MORE than having good intentions.



a left-winger blaming Bush in obama's sixth year?


SAY IT ISNT SO!

lol what idiots left-wingers are!!!
 
You see there is a reason people study history.

I know the right doesn't like history or science or facts or diplomacy or................... well I wont go on.


When you make history like bush did you have to face what you did resulted in for the world
 
well i guess then 6 years into the next Republican's President's watch things will still be obama's fault
 
they have the PROOF of why we went to Iraq.



PROOF


cold hard proof


Just curious.

How do you know it's cold, hard proof if you haven't seen it?

.

they are using the government documents to show why.

You see they did the research into WHY and found government documents that go all they way back to the Carter admin and sussed out WHY this was pursued as policy.



You people hate facts and documentation so you will deny anything that is said in the documentary.


You will likely just call everyone involved names and say its all lies without giving one ounce of evidence that anything is not documented.

Its how the right now does their business

Childish insults and fact denial

U.S. Cites 1991 U.N. Cease-Fire Resolution as the Legal Basis for Its Invasion

March 21, 2003|From Reuters

UNITED NATIONS — The United States gave its official reasons for invading Iraq to the U.N. Security Council late Thursday, saying Baghdad had broken a cease-fire resolution adopted after the 1991 Persian Gulf War.

Britain and Australia, two other nations in the U.S.-led coalition, wrote similar, shorter, letters to the 15-member council. None of the letters mentioned "regime change," an aim of the invasion but never authorized in any council resolution.

U.S. Cites 1991 U.N. Cease-Fire Resolution as the Legal Basis for Its Invasion - Los Angeles Times
 
the right doesnt like history?

the Left doesnt like current events; and re-writes their history

record welfare and food stamps isnt "forward progress" leftard


geesh
 
of COURSE Bush will "forever get the blame"....

its not like left-wing nutjbos ever admit they failed


DUH
 
they have the PROOF of why we went to Iraq.



PROOF


cold hard proof


Just curious.

How do you know it's cold, hard proof if you haven't seen it?

.

they are using the government documents to show why.

You see they did the research into WHY and found government documents that go all they way back to the Carter admin and sussed out WHY this was pursued as policy.



You people hate facts and documentation so you will deny anything that is said in the documentary.


You will likely just call everyone involved names and say its all lies without giving one ounce of evidence that anything is not documented.

Its how the right now does their business

Childish insults and fact denial

So Madcow is going to say the Iraq war was Carter's fault??
 
well i guess then 6 years into the next Republican's President's watch things will still be obama's fault

Are you kidding???

Obama will GENUINELY be responsible for actual problems that will plague this country for generations much like LBJ still affects American life TODAY. But with Obama it will be much more pronounced, negative and far reaching.

Generations!

:mad:
 
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