Tim kaine said democrats would use nuke option if Hilary won...

[BluesLegend]

Democrats have been kneeing the GOP in the groin for decades, I'm a little shocked they fought back today.

 

[Divine Wind]

When the Dems take the Senate again, they will include the end of cloture to all legislation.

Assuming the Republicans haven't preemptively created an impossibly convoluted knot of Senate rules prior to the possibility.

Not possible.

The same sentiment toward a Trump presidency.

Agreed, as is being proved by the Clinton Presidency, the Bush Presidency and the Obama Presidency. In fact, all of them. Nothing is forever.

 

[Divine Wind]

Well, it appears the Republican Senate went nuclear. I predict they'll regret it in the next 2-8 years.

GOP triggers nuclear option on Neil Gorsuch nomination - CNNPolitics.com
The Senate Thursday triggered the so-called "nuclear option" that allowed Republicans to break a Democratic filibuster of Supreme Court nominee Neil Gorsuch.

The chamber is now expected to vote to confirm Gorsuch Friday.


How the filibuster is dying with a whimper not a bang
The controversial changes to Senate rules, made along partisan lines, allows filibusters of Supreme Court picks to be broken with only 51 votes rather than 60.


The actions on Thursday and Friday cap more than a year of tension over an empty Supreme Court seat, as both parties in the Senate are poised to take action leading to an outcome neither party wants.
It's a situation loaded with nuance, procedural twists and Senate history -- not to mention a spot on the nation's highest court -- and a standoff that reflects a peak in polarization following a deeply divisive presidential election.
The move came after Democrats blocked the nomination under the previous 60-vote threshold. Only four Democrats -- Sens. Michael Bennet, Joe Donnelly, Heidi Heitkamp and Joe Manchin -- crossed party lines to side with the Republicans.
Subsequent party-line votes allowed the GOP majority to change the rules, leading up to the final vote breaking the filibuster.
After the final vote was gaveled, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell went down his row and gave high fives to Majority Whip John Cornyn and two aides.
RELATED - Merkley: 15-hour talk-a-thon against Gorsuch 'more uncomfortable' than triathlon
Leading up to the vote, lawmakers on both sides lamented the change, saying it could lead to even more partisan animosity down the road, forever changing a historic element of the Senate.
Republican Sen. Susan Collins of Maine was heavily involved in the bipartisan conversations to find a compromise, but she said Wednesday they were simply unsuccessful.
"I've had midnight calls on this, 6:30 a.m. calls on this," she said. "Worked all weekend and we just couldn't get here."
A Democratic aide in the Senate, who asked not to be named to speak more freely, called the impasse a "damn shame."
"There's been plenty of appetite from both sides to find a way to avoid this, and even hope that we might at times, but it looks like that's over," the aide said. "This is happening. And it's a damn shame. This hurts both parties in the long term because it hurts the institution.".....

 

[Divine Wind]

Well, it appears the Republican Senate went nuclear. I predict they'll regret it in the next 2-8 years.

GOP triggers nuclear option on Neil Gorsuch nomination - CNNPolitics.com
The Senate Thursday triggered the so-called "nuclear option" that allowed Republicans to break a Democratic filibuster of Supreme Court nominee Neil Gorsuch.

The chamber is now expected to vote to confirm Gorsuch Friday.


How the filibuster is dying with a whimper not a bang
The controversial changes to Senate rules, made along partisan lines, allows filibusters of Supreme Court picks to be broken with only 51 votes rather than 60.


The actions on Thursday and Friday cap more than a year of tension over an empty Supreme Court seat, as both parties in the Senate are poised to take action leading to an outcome neither party wants.
It's a situation loaded with nuance, procedural twists and Senate history -- not to mention a spot on the nation's highest court -- and a standoff that reflects a peak in polarization following a deeply divisive presidential election.
The move came after Democrats blocked the nomination under the previous 60-vote threshold. Only four Democrats -- Sens. Michael Bennet, Joe Donnelly, Heidi Heitkamp and Joe Manchin -- crossed party lines to side with the Republicans.
Subsequent party-line votes allowed the GOP majority to change the rules, leading up to the final vote breaking the filibuster.
After the final vote was gaveled, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell went down his row and gave high fives to Majority Whip John Cornyn and two aides.
RELATED - Merkley: 15-hour talk-a-thon against Gorsuch 'more uncomfortable' than triathlon
Leading up to the vote, lawmakers on both sides lamented the change, saying it could lead to even more partisan animosity down the road, forever changing a historic element of the Senate.
Republican Sen. Susan Collins of Maine was heavily involved in the bipartisan conversations to find a compromise, but she said Wednesday they were simply unsuccessful.
"I've had midnight calls on this, 6:30 a.m. calls on this," she said. "Worked all weekend and we just couldn't get here."
A Democratic aide in the Senate, who asked not to be named to speak more freely, called the impasse a "damn shame."
"There's been plenty of appetite from both sides to find a way to avoid this, and even hope that we might at times, but it looks like that's over," the aide said. "This is happening. And it's a damn shame. This hurts both parties in the long term because it hurts the institution.".....

It appears that the Democrats used the Nuclear Option first and are, now, the ones regretting they used it.

Here's where Republicans stand on the nuclear option - CNNPolitics.com
If Republicans lower the filibuster threshold for Supreme Court nominees, it could come back to haunt them if they become the minority again down the road.

Democrats are experiencing such a consequence now. In 2013, then-Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid used the nuclear option to lower the filibuster threshold for lower court judges.

 

[JakeStarkey]

When the Dems take control of the Congress and the Presidency, they will ensure the GOP never comes to power again.

 

[HenryBHough]

When the Dems take control of the Congress and the Presidency, they will ensure the GOP never comes to power again.

You wish!

In 2020 you'll be 15 and still too young to vote.

Unless, of course, you're registered in Chicago and die before then.

Yeah, then there IS a serious threat of your voting.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Henry, you continue to have too much interest in the ages of posters here. Now get into your red button snap jammies and go to bed without dinner.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

When the Dems take control of the Congress and the Presidency, they will ensure the GOP never comes to power again.

What makes you think the Republicans won't do that to the Dems right now?

 

[JakeStarkey]

There are not enough in the country to force it. The GOP has failed almost completely since this term began.

Just a few stupidities more and 2018, which should be an easy bi-term for the GOP, could end up with the Dems storming and taking the barricades of the Republican Congress.

Try it.

 

[Divine Wind]

When the Dems take control of the Congress and the Presidency, they will ensure the GOP never comes to power again.

That's what they said the last time.

 

[Divine Wind]

When the Dems take control of the Congress and the Presidency, they will ensure the GOP never comes to power again.

What makes you think the Republicans won't do that to the Dems right now?

They can't because, in the end, it's still "one citizen, one vote". Hillary was supposed to be a shoe-in by all the oddsmakers. Trump was just a side-show when, as the Dems kept calling, the "Republican Clown Car" went on stage.

Americans haven't been happy with our government's direction for a few decades now. The Middle Class continues to bear the brunt of being squeezed by two very large and very highly partisan political parties. The best peaceful weapon Americans have to fight partisanship is the vote.