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He was confronted by them on a number of occasions.
Go ahead. Oppose equal rights.
Thanks, but I don't need your permission to follow my beliefs.
You'll find out otherwise if you violate anti-discrimination laws.
No, actually I won't. I am prepared to die for my beliefs. Your little fines, will not be a big issue. Besides that, if Memories Pizza can raise a million dollars, without violating anything, I will have enough support for your cheesy fines.
Oh look, an anonymous fuckstick on the internet prepared to DIE for the right to refuse to sell a pizza to a gay person.
Thank goodness we get people like you to speak up occasionally and reveal the true mentality of the modern Am erican conservative.
Kinda makes him sound like all those Americans for the past 250 years, huh? To die for the rights of others ... how foolish can you get??
Actually it sounds ignorant and ridiculous.It should no matter if they are heterosexual or gay.
It should matter. This might sound a bit cliche, but if God wanted children to have same sex parents, he would have made two men or two women in the Garden of Eden. Homosexuality defies the natural order God set in place when he created mankind.
No, it makes him sound like one of those Americans who as a consequence of his ignorance, fear, and hate have sought to disadvantage his fellow Americans through the force of law for no other reason than being 'different'; it makes him sound like one of those Americans who as a consequence of his unwarranted fear of change, diversity, and expressions of individual liberty have sought to compel conformity in violation of the Constitution.Go ahead. Oppose equal rights.
Thanks, but I don't need your permission to follow my beliefs.
You'll find out otherwise if you violate anti-discrimination laws.
No, actually I won't. I am prepared to die for my beliefs. Your little fines, will not be a big issue. Besides that, if Memories Pizza can raise a million dollars, without violating anything, I will have enough support for your cheesy fines.
Oh look, an anonymous fuckstick on the internet prepared to DIE for the right to refuse to sell a pizza to a gay person.
Thank goodness we get people like you to speak up occasionally and reveal the true mentality of the modern Am erican conservative.
Kinda makes him sound like all those Americans for the past 250 years, huh? To die for the rights of others ... how foolish can you get??
Actually it sounds ignorant and ridiculous.It should no matter if they are heterosexual or gay.
It should matter. This might sound a bit cliche, but if God wanted children to have same sex parents, he would have made two men or two women in the Garden of Eden. Homosexuality defies the natural order God set in place when he created mankind.
Subjective religious dogma, myths, and fables are legally and Constitutionally irrelevant, having no bearing whatsoever on the protected liberty gay Americans are entitled to – you're free to believe whatever you wish, you're not free to seek to compel conformity to your subjective beliefs through force of law in violation of the 14th Amendment.
Indeed, the 14th Amendment exists to protect Americans from the intolerance and bigotry you exhibit in this and other posts.
Why can't you legally refuse to pay your taxes for religious reasons, such as it being against your conscience to finance war?
Anyone?
Why can't you legally refuse to pay your taxes for religious reasons, such as it being against your conscience to finance war?
Anyone?
Can you ask an honest question for once? Can you? Holy non sequiturs Batman!
Where are the witnesses that heard Jesus speak to him or saw his blindness till he converted, or accepted jesus? Jesus has witness to his life and death, but paul had no witnesses to his encounter with jesus.
"1 And Saul, yet breathing out threatenings and slaughter against the disciples of the Lord, went unto the high priest,
2 And desired of him letters to Damascus to the synagogues, that if he found any of this way, whether they were men or women, he might bring them bound unto Jerusalem.
3 And as he journeyed, he came near Damascus: and suddenly there shined round about him a light from heaven:
4 And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?
5 And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.
6 And he trembling and astonished said, Lord, what wilt thou have me to do? And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the city, and it shall be told thee what thou must do.
7 And the men which journeyed with him stood speechless, hearing a voice, but seeing no man."
Acts 9:1-7
Romans 1:25-27 NIV
That is a direct condemnation of Homosexuality. And since the person who wrote this was Paul, it then serves to reason that as one of Jesus' disciples, he was reflecting Jesus' and ultimately God's will. Thusly one can only reason that both Jesus and God would condemn homosexuality as sinful, and Paul was merely conveying such sentiment.
Couple of problems there. Everyone does things that are bad. There is a difference between committing something bad, and repenting, and committing something bad, and arrogantly sticking to it.
We told a couple, that they could not come to our church groups, because they were shacking up, and the Bible says that's wrong. In fact, we ousted a pastor for that behavior.
And no, it's not up to the proprietor to avoid any business where they could do something wrong, because every business you could do something wrong. You could avoid activities that are in and of themselves evil, like I'll never take a photo job for a porno. I'll never do that. Because the job is inherently evil. But providing wedding services, is not inherently evil. In fact it is very good. Only SSM is evil, and that I will not do.
We trumpet, long and loud, about all the legal protections allowed to straight couples, and denied to gays. But, the reality is, that if gays were really serious about all those supposed protections, they would go see a lawyer, have a contract set up, and move on. That caterwauling is nothing more than subterfuge.
The government is consistent - if you are not a man and a woman, and you aren't married, then there are some benefits you will not get. Single couples, living together, got no more protection than a gay couple living together.
Don't like it? Fix the law. But, just like you don't want Christians to invoke their values on you, you should not be able to invoke YOUR values on them.
It does not mean you should persecute others that you don't accept either.
We aren't persecuting anyone. We just don't want to be forced to be a part of their lifestyle. Is that too hard for you to understand?
It should matter. This might sound a bit cliche, but if God wanted children to have same sex parents, he would have made two men or two women in the Garden of Eden. Homosexuality defies the natural order God set in place when he created mankind.
Jesus did not say anything about it being a sin.
We both know that isn't true.
"They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator-- who is forever praised. Amen. Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion."
Romans 1:25-27 NIV
That is a direct condemnation of Homosexuality. And since the person who wrote this was Paul, it then serves to reason that as one of Jesus' disciples, he was reflecting Jesus' and ultimately God's will. Thusly one can only reason that both Jesus and God would condemn homosexuality as sinful, and Paul was merely conveying such sentiment.
But I do find it interesting that the GOSPEL writers never felt a need to have Jesus say homophobic stuff. In fact, all the homophobic stuff comes from Paul in the NT.
Why can't you legally refuse to pay your taxes for religious reasons, such as it being against your conscience to finance war?
Anyone?
Why can't you legally refuse to pay your taxes for religious reasons, such as it being against your conscience to finance war?
Anyone?
No one? None of religious rights zealots wants to defend the right of a pacifist by religion to be exempted from paying taxes?
Are you conceding that there ought not be any such right?
Hmmm...then why are you claiming there should be a right to discriminate against gays?
There is no comparison between incidents such as a street preacher being beaten up at at gay rights parade or graffiti painted on a church compared 1402 hate crimes against LGBT people which includes murder, gang rape, and mutilations. Now that's real intolerance. And that's not ancient history. That's 2013 FBI data.
Ahh, but the other part of that data says that roughly equal amounts of hate crimes take place against those of faith, or roughly 1,030 of 5,922 hate crimes were of a religious nature (17.4%).
Don't lecture me on intolerance.
Oh, nice try...but take a look at the actual breakdown...
Of the 1,340 victims of an anti-religious hate crime:
- 62.4 percent were victims of an offender’s anti-Jewish bias.
- 11.6 percent were victims of an anti-Islamic bias.
- 7.5 percent were victims of a bias against groups of individuals of varying religions (anti-multiple religions, group).
- 6.4 percent were victims of an anti-Catholic bias.
- 2.6 percent were victims of an anti-Protestant bias.
- 0.9 percent were victims of an anti-Atheist/Agnostic bias.
- 8.6 percent were victims of a bias against other religions (anti-other religion).
Deflection.
I think you need to look up what deflection means. Responding directly to a claim made with facts that don't support that claim is not a deflection.
