Transgender Biden official Rachel Levine says hormones can help kids 'going through the wrong puberty'

[jotathought]

I think parents have a dog in the fight and definitely have a say in whether their child gets gender affirming care.

Why? How does a youth, especially younger ones, even know or understand gender and its long term effects? What happens, and I'm sure it does, when the youth isn't sure, and the parents provide consent?

Just another stupid liberal thing that destroys lives for a lifetime .. especially when they realize their parents made the wrong decision and / or they were rushed into the outcomes.

 

[rightwinger]

Why? How does a youth, especially younger ones, even know or understand gender and its long term effects? What happens, and I'm sure it does, when the youth isn't sure, and the parents provide consent?

Just another stupid liberal thing that destroys lives for a lifetime .. especially when they realize their parents made the wrong decision and / or they were rushed into the outcomes.

I don’t expect a minor to know everything
I don’t expect parents to know everything
But along with medical professionals who can evaluate the child’s physical and psychological condition……I trust them to make an informed decisions.

I do not trust Republicans who have embraced misinformation about Transexuals and do not have the child’s best interests at heart to make an informed decision for every child

 

[jotathought]

I don’t expect a minor to know everything
I don’t expect parents to know everything
But along with medical professionals who can evaluate the child’s physical and psychological ……I trust them to make an informed decisions.

I do not trust Republicans who have embraced misinformation about Transexuals and do not have the child’s best interests at heart to make an informed decision for every child

These decisions are being rushed .. as many of those who have "de-transitioned" have testified.. and are currently filing suit with the providers that rushed them. It's all about money ... and "gender affirming care" is a cash cow.

 

[rightwinger]

These decisions are being rushed .. as many of those who have "de-transitioned" have testified.. and are currently filing suit with the providers that rushed them. It's all about money ... and "gender affirming care" is a cash cow.

More RW propaganda and misinformation

The decision is not rushed
A child must first go for counseling, assume their new gender and name without any treatment.
If they are handling the transition well, only then are they given puberty blockers.
They are not given hormones until near adulthood and do not get surgery until adults.
Most Transexuals do not get genital surgery

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

More proof of why we need the decision made by parents, the child and medical professionals instead of hysterical Republicans who hate Transexuals.

Young children are given puberty blockers to prevent their body from assuming the physical characteristics of the gender they have rejected.
Then, if the child is adapting to their new gender, hormones are provided to allow the teen to assume physical characteristics of their new gender.
Surgery is rarely performed until 18

You have no idea the psychological damage YOU are contributing to with this psycobabble bullshit.

 

[Seymour Flops]

More RW propaganda and misinformation

The decision is not rushed
A child must first go for counseling, assume their new gender and name without any treatment.
If they are handling the transition well, only then are they given puberty blockers.
They are not given hormones until near adulthood and do not get surgery until adults.
Most Transexuals do not get genital surgery

How long from first talk with the gender specialist to first prescription of puberty blockers?

From my linked article above:

Thomas followed the pediatrician’s recommendation and paid a visit to the specialist. Within the first 10 minutes of their meeting, the specialist announced in front of Thomas and her son that she was writing a prescription for puberty blockers so that “when he wants to transition to become a girl, it will be easier.”

Do you have any evidence that they are required to take longer, or that they do take longer?

 

[rightwinger]

You have no idea the psychological damage YOU are contributing to with this psycobabble bullshit.

You have no idea of the psychological damage you are causing by delaying transition until it is too late

 

[rightwinger]

How long from first talk with the gender specialist to first prescription of puberty blockers?

From my linked article above:

Thomas followed the pediatrician’s recommendation and paid a visit to the specialist. Within the first 10 minutes of their meeting, the specialist announced in front of Thomas and her son that she was writing a prescription for puberty blockers so that “when he wants to transition to become a girl, it will be easier.”

Do you have any evidence that they are required to take longer, or that they do take longer?

What Is Transitioning? What Parents Should Know

Raising a transgender child may be unfamiliar territory for many parents. WebMD offers information on methods of transitioning and what to expect.

www.webmd.com

 

[Seymour Flops]

You have no idea of the psychological damage you are causing by delaying transition until it is too late

When is it "too late?"

Is there an age at which a gender specialist will not accept my money (Obamacare insurance) if I tell him or her that I want to transition? They will say, "Sorry, Selena Flops! It's to late for you to transition, at your age!"

Can you document that?

 

[rightwinger]

When is it "too late?"

Is there an age at which a gender specialist will not accept my money (Obamacare insurance) if I tell him or her that I want to transition? They will say, "Sorry, Selena Flops! It's to late for you to transition, at your age!"

Can you document that?

Once a Transexual goes through full puberty their transition becomes less successful
They maintain many of the characteristics of their former sex.

Just read some of the responses of Conservatives on this board who post pictures and mock them as freaks

What does that do the psychology of the Transexual ?

 

[Hollie]

I think parents have a dog in the fight and definitely have a say in whether their child gets gender affirming care.

I also think Republicans don’t give a shit about the well-being of Transexuals and need to stay the fuk out

A parent is under no obligation to stay the fuk out when schools actively participate in grooming their children and school boards require the grooming is kept from the parents.

 

[Hollie]

I don’t expect a minor to know everything
I don’t expect parents to know everything
But along with medical professionals who can evaluate the child’s physical and psychological condition……I trust them to make an informed decisions.

I do not trust Republicans who have embraced misinformation about Transexuals and do not have the child’s best interests at heart to make an informed decision for every child

The “medical professionals” who insist men can get pregnant?

 

[rightwinger]

A parent is under no obligation to stay the fuk out when schools actively participate in grooming their children and school boards require the grooming is kept from the parents.

More RW Hysteria

Grooming?

 

[Hollie]

More RW Hysteria

Grooming?

What do you call it when classrooms are staffed with flamers in green and purple hair, pride flags, tranny story time and books explicitly detailing oral and anal sex.

Why do schoolboards and teachers feel they need to conceal this from parents?

 

[beagle9]

Sex with a child is illegal, so, um, no.

And yes, I look down on religious prudes who want to dictate my sex life, thank you very much. Mind your own fucking business.

Oh, yeah, there is no God. Hate to break it to you.

Oh mind to your own business eh ? Anytime children are involved in these abusive dangerous narratives, otherwise that suggest the thing's that are being suggested or thought of in today's demented society, then it should be every responsible adults business to absolutely stop any abuse and/or endangerment of the children.

 

[Seymour Flops]

I think parents have a dog in the fight and definitely have a say in whether their child gets gender affirming care.

I also think Republicans don’t give a shit about the well-being of Transexuals and need to stay the fuk out

A parent is under no obligation to stay the fuk out when schools actively participate in grooming their children and school boards require the grooming is kept from the parents.

No, they surely are not. Neither are taxpayers and voters in that school district, the state in which the district is located, and the nation in which the state is located. None of us are required to stay the fuk out when our tax dollars are spent grooming and harming children.

Once a Transexual goes through full puberty their transition becomes less successful
They maintain many of the characteristics of their former sex.

Right, so it is not "too late." The so-called "transwoman" may be less aesthetically pleasing to people who like "women" who have "a little extra." But they can still get all the surgeries and hormones that they want as adults.

While there is no such thing as "too late," there is clearly such thing as too early. Witness Jazz Jennings, who was given puberty blockers at age 11 so Jazz would be passable as a female on the Jazz Jennings reality show, and at the behest of the child's mother. When it came time to remove the now adult's penis and create an imitation vagina, it turned out that the penis had not developed normally (duh . . . ) and so that not enough penile skin was available for the creation of the faux vagina intended for men to insert their penises into, which is a common procedure for "bottom surgery."

So a part of the colon was taken for that purpose. There will be no sexual stimulation of the artificial genitals created on Jazz' body. Nor will there ever be reproduction, nor breastfeeding. That was gone forever for Jazz at age 18, but by that time all the blockers and hormones she had been given without consent before becoming a consenting adult had likely made those things impossible anyway.

At least Jazz lived through that procedure. This young person did not:

Report: Teen Dies From Sex Change Surgery Complications During Dutch Study - TPUSA LIVE

A Dutch study conducted in 2016 depicts the cause of death 18-year-old boy who passed away from complications following an elective sex-change surgery.

www.tpusa.com

Just read some of the responses of Conservatives on this board who post pictures and mock them as freaks

What does that do the psychology of the Transexual ?

Doesn't help it at all, I'm sure. Nor does the depiction of Trump supporters as cultists help the psychology of Trump supporters.

Moral to the story: if you have a thin skin or a mental disorder that is co-morbid with many other mental disorders, it's not a good idea to read political message boards.

 

[JoeB131]

All under the same LGBTQWERTYUIOP label. And once they decided transgenders didn't have to go through bottom surgery the transvesite label got superseded.

You are far more intolerant than I am, and you don't even see it because you are a narcissistic asshole.

Not really. You see, as much as I see religion as silly, I would never deprive them of decent treatment, not even the Mormons.

Don't know much about that. Obviously, the sex angle has the left geeked up to push for it, and it makes for clickbait.

Tell us more about the SSRI's. I'm not one to accept that we have to do everything profit motivated doctors tell us to do or we "hate science."

Actually, the fact you aren't as outraged by the SSRI's (hundreds of thousands of kids get them) compared to puberty blockers (only a few hundred get them for gender dysphoria), says you are the one who is "Geeked up".

 

[JoeB131]

These decisions are being rushed .. as many of those who have "de-transitioned" have testified.. and are currently filing suit with the providers that rushed them. It's all about money ... and "gender affirming care" is a cash cow.

By "many", you mean a few people who are happy that they found someone to listen to their sob stories?
Only about 2% of people who transition change back, and most of them because people in their lives don't accept their new identity.

Oh mind to your own business eh ? Anytime children are involved in these abusive dangerous narratives, otherwise that suggest the thing's that are being suggested or thought of in today's demented society, then it should be every responsible adults business to absolutely stop any abuse and/or endangerment of the children.

Again, you aren't that child's parent, and you aren't that child's doctor.

Mind your own business

 

[Seymour Flops]

Not really. You see, as much as I see religion as silly, I would never deprive them of decent treatment, not even the Mormons.



Actually, the fact you aren't as outraged by the SSRI's (hundreds of thousands of kids get them) compared to puberty blockers (only a few hundred get them for gender dysphoria), says you are the one who is "Geeked up".

I'm offering to look at whatever information you present about SSRI's and if it warrants outrage, I'll be outraged.

Never mind, I took a quick look. If you meant that doctors over prescribe SSRI's to kids and in fact over prescribe medications in general, you're right. I see it every day as a Special Ed teacher.

Here's one cause of the problem: You have no doubt noticed that in a typical family practice clinic, like Kelsey Seybold, or in a facility that takes Medicaid, doctors spend very little time with each patient. You as a patient start in the waiting room, and then are led to the exam room, which is just another place to wait. The team of receptionists, nurse's assistants, and nurses that see you before the doctor sees you are trained to make it possible for the physician to quickly move from one room to another with a ready patient always waiting for them.

All that so say that a doctor typically spends very little time with a child patient. They take the information from the parent and make a decision from their based on guidelines, i.e. what won't get them in trouble. They likley know the downsides of SSRI's but since doctors are not being sued for prescribing them, they do it. That's how medicine works in these times.

That applies to puberty blockers, and SSRI's, which is why both are so severely over-prescribed.

Your point is well taken, that we should be outraged about SSRI overprescription just as we should be outraged by puberty blockers being over-prescribed. I think there are legitimate reasons that - rightly or wrongly - we are not as outraged by one as the other.

If you don't know the legitimate reasons, I'll explain them you, but this post is already too long.

 

[Hollie]

Not really. You see, as much as I see religion as silly, I would never deprive them of decent treatment, not even the Mormons.



Actually, the fact you aren't as outraged by the SSRI's (hundreds of thousands of kids get them) compared to puberty blockers (only a few hundred get them for gender dysphoria), says you are the one who is "Geeked up".

It’s not surprising those flailing their Pom Poms for grooming /transing children and doping them with drugs change their story from post to post.

In your post #89, you wrote,

“Actually, only about 5000 kids are getting puberty blockers, and a lot of those are kids who are suffering early onset puberty. (I.e. going through puberty when their age is still in single digits.)”


So, we’ve gone from 5,000 to ‘a few hundred’. That’s quite a leap… rather picking and choosing.

Gender Transition Medications and Surgeries for Children in the U.S.

Rates of transgenderism in children have rapidly increased in recent years in the U.S., which has sparked discussions between parents, schools, policymakers, and medical professionals alike over how to discuss and treat the issue.

americafirstpolicy.com

Additionally, the number of children known to be on puberty blockers or cross-sex hormones in the U.S. more than doubled in just four years—from 2,394 in 2017 to 5,063 in 2021 (Do No Harm, 2023a; Terhune, Respaut, & Conlin, 2022).