Tropospheric Hot Spot- Why it does not exist...

[SSDD]

A photon as a particle has a positive charge

A claim which you have failed to prove.

That is so weird. I have never seen anyone go that far against well known physics. I wonder if his friends will give him a winner rating.

Between smart photons and charged photons, it's the biggest concentration of scientific idiocy I've seen in a while.

Its a pity you are unwilling to look at this objectively. Yet your lack of proof, to challenge me, is stunning evidence of your inability to defend your position. Bravo!

Its a pity you are unwilling to look at this objectively.

I've never heard of an electric field or a magnetic field bending a beam of light.

I suspect if you could pull that off, you could be up for a Nobel Prize in physics.

Show me evidence that anyone, anywhere has managed to prove a photon is charged and deflected it using its charge.

There is your challenge. Prove your claim, crush my position.

Light is a queer thing.

Magnetism can polarize light. But only in the presence of matter.

Photons show the 'symptoms' of charge. Just like they show the 'symptoms' of mass. But that doesn't mean they have either.

Like I said, very odd.

Guess you never considered that photons aren't what you think they are...or that photons don't exist at all and the photon story is actually a place holder till we learn that what we thought isn't even close to what is..

 

[Crick]

So... they're magic, right? Got it.

Really? That's your reasoning? That's your logic? That's your explanation?

Man, you give pathetic a bad name.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

So... they're magic, right? Got it.

Really? That's your reasoning? That's your logic? That's your explanation?

Man, you give pathetic a bad name.

They are magic.
They're magically deflected by matter warmer than the matter that emitted them.
Or they're magic because they can see the future and don't travel toward warmer matter.
The story changes.
Except on the Sun's surface. There they can travel toward warmer matter, because....work.

 

[Billy_Bob]

So... they're magic, right? Got it.

Really? That's your reasoning? That's your logic? That's your explanation?

Man, you give pathetic a bad name.

Duality...

A theroy of differing phase changes between it being charged particulate matter and Electro-Magnetic energy (a wave). The point being, there is no definitive proof of either state. Incomplete science with differing hypothesis.

Again, closed minds that don't have a clue about what they post. You give real scientists a bad name..

 

[Billy_Bob]

dude, you have no idea what your even saying. excuse the laughter here. but see, there is a thermostat on that water heater, and that thermostat keeps the water from overheating from the source. All that wrapping does is keep the tank from cooling off faster. WTF man, don't you know anything?

All that wrapping does is keep the tank from cooling off faster.

How does it do that?

It's a blanket. And?

And how does the blanket stop it from cooling off faster?

It's a physical blanket! So?

Yes. So how does it work?

Wrong.

If the atmosphere was pure CO2 it would radiate its heat away 3 times faster than oxygen. A CO2 molecule does not heat up when struck by photons thus it will not "hold" heat.

 

[jc456]

dude, you have no idea what your even saying. excuse the laughter here. but see, there is a thermostat on that water heater, and that thermostat keeps the water from overheating from the source. All that wrapping does is keep the tank from cooling off faster. WTF man, don't you know anything?

All that wrapping does is keep the tank from cooling off faster.

How does it do that?

It's a blanket. And?

And how does the blanket stop it from cooling off faster?

Have you proven CO2 acts as a blanket? Fart

Let's discuss the water tank first.

about?

 

[jc456]

dude, you have no idea what your even saying. excuse the laughter here. but see, there is a thermostat on that water heater, and that thermostat keeps the water from overheating from the source. All that wrapping does is keep the tank from cooling off faster. WTF man, don't you know anything?

All that wrapping does is keep the tank from cooling off faster.

How does it do that?

It's a blanket. And?

And how does the blanket stop it from cooling off faster?

It's a physical blanket! So?

Yes. So how does it work?

well then post that experiment that shows how warm CO2 gets when it absorbs IR. Got that?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

All that wrapping does is keep the tank from cooling off faster.

How does it do that?

It's a blanket. And?

And how does the blanket stop it from cooling off faster?

It's a physical blanket! So?

Yes. So how does it work?

Wrong.

If the atmosphere was pure CO2 it would radiate its heat away 3 times faster than oxygen. A CO2 molecule does not heat up when struck by photons thus it will not "hold" heat.

If the atmosphere was pure CO2 it would radiate its heat away 3 times faster than oxygen.

If O2 is transparent to IR and CO2 absorbs and reradiates IR, why would it radiate heat away faster?

A CO2 molecule does not heat up when struck by photons thus it will not "hold" heat.

An electron moves to a higher orbit. Why doesn't that heat the CO2?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

All that wrapping does is keep the tank from cooling off faster.

How does it do that?

It's a blanket. And?

And how does the blanket stop it from cooling off faster?

It's a physical blanket! So?

Yes. So how does it work?

well then post that experiment that shows how warm CO2 gets when it absorbs IR. Got that?

Molecules of carbon dioxide (CO2) can absorb energy from infrared (IR) radiation. This animation shows a molecule of CO2 absorbing an incoming infrared photon (yellow arrows). The energy from the photon causes the CO2 molecule to vibrate. Shortly thereafter, the molecule gives up this extra energy by emitting another infrared photon. Once the extra energy has been removed by the emitted photon, the carbon dioxide stops vibrating.

This ability to absorb and re-emit infrared energy is what makes CO2 an effective heat-trapping greenhouse gas. Not all gas molecules are able to absorb IR radiation. For example, nitrogen (N2) and oxygen (O2), which make up more than 90% of Earth's atmosphere, do not absorb infrared photons. CO2 molecules can vibrate in ways that simpler nitrogen and oxygen molecules cannot, which allows CO2 molecules to capture the IR photons.

Carbon Dioxide Absorbs and Re-emits Infrared Radiation | UCAR Center for Science Education

 

[jc456]

It's a blanket. And?

And how does the blanket stop it from cooling off faster?

It's a physical blanket! So?

Yes. So how does it work?

well then post that experiment that shows how warm CO2 gets when it absorbs IR. Got that?

Molecules of carbon dioxide (CO2) can absorb energy from infrared (IR) radiation. This animation shows a molecule of CO2 absorbing an incoming infrared photon (yellow arrows). The energy from the photon causes the CO2 molecule to vibrate. Shortly thereafter, the molecule gives up this extra energy by emitting another infrared photon. Once the extra energy has been removed by the emitted photon, the carbon dioxide stops vibrating.

This ability to absorb and re-emit infrared energy is what makes CO2 an effective heat-trapping greenhouse gas. Not all gas molecules are able to absorb IR radiation. For example, nitrogen (N2) and oxygen (O2), which make up more than 90% of Earth's atmosphere, do not absorb infrared photons. CO2 molecules can vibrate in ways that simpler nitrogen and oxygen molecules cannot, which allows CO2 molecules to capture the IR photons.

Carbon Dioxide Absorbs and Re-emits Infrared Radiation | UCAR Center for Science Education

so how warm is the CO2 after it absorbs and is that before it transfers the IR to the O and N molecules? How high does that molecule of CO2 hold that supposed IR?

nitrogen (N2) and oxygen (O2), which make up more than 90% of Earth's atmosphere, do not absorb infrared photons.

They don't? Doesn't the CO2 transfer to the O and N molecule? SSDD posted that in the other thread.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

And how does the blanket stop it from cooling off faster?

It's a physical blanket! So?

Yes. So how does it work?

well then post that experiment that shows how warm CO2 gets when it absorbs IR. Got that?

Molecules of carbon dioxide (CO2) can absorb energy from infrared (IR) radiation. This animation shows a molecule of CO2 absorbing an incoming infrared photon (yellow arrows). The energy from the photon causes the CO2 molecule to vibrate. Shortly thereafter, the molecule gives up this extra energy by emitting another infrared photon. Once the extra energy has been removed by the emitted photon, the carbon dioxide stops vibrating.

This ability to absorb and re-emit infrared energy is what makes CO2 an effective heat-trapping greenhouse gas. Not all gas molecules are able to absorb IR radiation. For example, nitrogen (N2) and oxygen (O2), which make up more than 90% of Earth's atmosphere, do not absorb infrared photons. CO2 molecules can vibrate in ways that simpler nitrogen and oxygen molecules cannot, which allows CO2 molecules to capture the IR photons.

Carbon Dioxide Absorbs and Re-emits Infrared Radiation | UCAR Center for Science Education

so how warm is the CO2 after it absorbs and is that before it transfers the IR to the O and N molecules? How high does that molecule of CO2 hold that supposed IR?

nitrogen (N2) and oxygen (O2), which make up more than 90% of Earth's atmosphere, do not absorb infrared photons.

They don't? Doesn't the CO2 transfer to the O and N molecule? SSDD posted that in the other thread.

so how warm is the CO2 after it absorbs

Asking the temperature of a single molecule is silly.
It is warmer than it was before.

How high does that molecule of CO2 hold that supposed IR?

Clarify what you mean by "how high".

They don't?

No. CO2 stops IR that would otherwise instantly escape an atmosphere lacking any GHG.

Doesn't the CO2 transfer to the O and N molecule?

By collision.

 

[jc456]

It's a physical blanket! So?

Yes. So how does it work?

well then post that experiment that shows how warm CO2 gets when it absorbs IR. Got that?

Molecules of carbon dioxide (CO2) can absorb energy from infrared (IR) radiation. This animation shows a molecule of CO2 absorbing an incoming infrared photon (yellow arrows). The energy from the photon causes the CO2 molecule to vibrate. Shortly thereafter, the molecule gives up this extra energy by emitting another infrared photon. Once the extra energy has been removed by the emitted photon, the carbon dioxide stops vibrating.

This ability to absorb and re-emit infrared energy is what makes CO2 an effective heat-trapping greenhouse gas. Not all gas molecules are able to absorb IR radiation. For example, nitrogen (N2) and oxygen (O2), which make up more than 90% of Earth's atmosphere, do not absorb infrared photons. CO2 molecules can vibrate in ways that simpler nitrogen and oxygen molecules cannot, which allows CO2 molecules to capture the IR photons.

Carbon Dioxide Absorbs and Re-emits Infrared Radiation | UCAR Center for Science Education

so how warm is the CO2 after it absorbs and is that before it transfers the IR to the O and N molecules? How high does that molecule of CO2 hold that supposed IR?

nitrogen (N2) and oxygen (O2), which make up more than 90% of Earth's atmosphere, do not absorb infrared photons.

They don't? Doesn't the CO2 transfer to the O and N molecule? SSDD posted that in the other thread.

so how warm is the CO2 after it absorbs

Asking the temperature of a single molecule is silly.
It is warmer than it was before.

How high does that molecule of CO2 hold that supposed IR?

Clarify what you mean by "how high".

They don't?

No. CO2 stops IR that would otherwise instantly escape an atmosphere lacking any GHG.

Doesn't the CO2 transfer to the O and N molecule?

By collision.

Asking the temperature of a single molecule is silly.
It is warmer than it was before.
are you saying the molecule gets warmer than the environment its in? Now that's magic.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Yes. So how does it work?

well then post that experiment that shows how warm CO2 gets when it absorbs IR. Got that?

Molecules of carbon dioxide (CO2) can absorb energy from infrared (IR) radiation. This animation shows a molecule of CO2 absorbing an incoming infrared photon (yellow arrows). The energy from the photon causes the CO2 molecule to vibrate. Shortly thereafter, the molecule gives up this extra energy by emitting another infrared photon. Once the extra energy has been removed by the emitted photon, the carbon dioxide stops vibrating.

This ability to absorb and re-emit infrared energy is what makes CO2 an effective heat-trapping greenhouse gas. Not all gas molecules are able to absorb IR radiation. For example, nitrogen (N2) and oxygen (O2), which make up more than 90% of Earth's atmosphere, do not absorb infrared photons. CO2 molecules can vibrate in ways that simpler nitrogen and oxygen molecules cannot, which allows CO2 molecules to capture the IR photons.

Carbon Dioxide Absorbs and Re-emits Infrared Radiation | UCAR Center for Science Education

so how warm is the CO2 after it absorbs and is that before it transfers the IR to the O and N molecules? How high does that molecule of CO2 hold that supposed IR?

nitrogen (N2) and oxygen (O2), which make up more than 90% of Earth's atmosphere, do not absorb infrared photons.

They don't? Doesn't the CO2 transfer to the O and N molecule? SSDD posted that in the other thread.

so how warm is the CO2 after it absorbs

Asking the temperature of a single molecule is silly.
It is warmer than it was before.

How high does that molecule of CO2 hold that supposed IR?

Clarify what you mean by "how high".

They don't?

No. CO2 stops IR that would otherwise instantly escape an atmosphere lacking any GHG.

Doesn't the CO2 transfer to the O and N molecule?

By collision.

Asking the temperature of a single molecule is silly.
It is warmer than it was before.
are you saying the molecule gets warmer than the environment its in? Now that's magic.

are you saying the molecule gets warmer than the environment its in?

No.
It is warmer than it was before.
Do you feel every single molecule in a given volume of atmosphere has the exact same energy level?

Again, talking single molecule temperatures is silly.

 

[jc456]

well then post that experiment that shows how warm CO2 gets when it absorbs IR. Got that?

Molecules of carbon dioxide (CO2) can absorb energy from infrared (IR) radiation. This animation shows a molecule of CO2 absorbing an incoming infrared photon (yellow arrows). The energy from the photon causes the CO2 molecule to vibrate. Shortly thereafter, the molecule gives up this extra energy by emitting another infrared photon. Once the extra energy has been removed by the emitted photon, the carbon dioxide stops vibrating.

This ability to absorb and re-emit infrared energy is what makes CO2 an effective heat-trapping greenhouse gas. Not all gas molecules are able to absorb IR radiation. For example, nitrogen (N2) and oxygen (O2), which make up more than 90% of Earth's atmosphere, do not absorb infrared photons. CO2 molecules can vibrate in ways that simpler nitrogen and oxygen molecules cannot, which allows CO2 molecules to capture the IR photons.

Carbon Dioxide Absorbs and Re-emits Infrared Radiation | UCAR Center for Science Education

so how warm is the CO2 after it absorbs and is that before it transfers the IR to the O and N molecules? How high does that molecule of CO2 hold that supposed IR?

nitrogen (N2) and oxygen (O2), which make up more than 90% of Earth's atmosphere, do not absorb infrared photons.

They don't? Doesn't the CO2 transfer to the O and N molecule? SSDD posted that in the other thread.

so how warm is the CO2 after it absorbs

Asking the temperature of a single molecule is silly.
It is warmer than it was before.

How high does that molecule of CO2 hold that supposed IR?

Clarify what you mean by "how high".

They don't?

No. CO2 stops IR that would otherwise instantly escape an atmosphere lacking any GHG.

Doesn't the CO2 transfer to the O and N molecule?

By collision.

Asking the temperature of a single molecule is silly.
It is warmer than it was before.
are you saying the molecule gets warmer than the environment its in? Now that's magic.

are you saying the molecule gets warmer than the environment its in?

No.
It is warmer than it was before.
Do you feel every single molecule in a given volume of atmosphere has the exact same energy level?

Again, talking single molecule temperatures is silly.

why? people keep saying when we add them it gets warmer. I want to know how warm.

than it was before? before meaning what exactly?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Molecules of carbon dioxide (CO2) can absorb energy from infrared (IR) radiation. This animation shows a molecule of CO2 absorbing an incoming infrared photon (yellow arrows). The energy from the photon causes the CO2 molecule to vibrate. Shortly thereafter, the molecule gives up this extra energy by emitting another infrared photon. Once the extra energy has been removed by the emitted photon, the carbon dioxide stops vibrating.

This ability to absorb and re-emit infrared energy is what makes CO2 an effective heat-trapping greenhouse gas. Not all gas molecules are able to absorb IR radiation. For example, nitrogen (N2) and oxygen (O2), which make up more than 90% of Earth's atmosphere, do not absorb infrared photons. CO2 molecules can vibrate in ways that simpler nitrogen and oxygen molecules cannot, which allows CO2 molecules to capture the IR photons.

Carbon Dioxide Absorbs and Re-emits Infrared Radiation | UCAR Center for Science Education

so how warm is the CO2 after it absorbs and is that before it transfers the IR to the O and N molecules? How high does that molecule of CO2 hold that supposed IR?

nitrogen (N2) and oxygen (O2), which make up more than 90% of Earth's atmosphere, do not absorb infrared photons.

They don't? Doesn't the CO2 transfer to the O and N molecule? SSDD posted that in the other thread.

so how warm is the CO2 after it absorbs

Asking the temperature of a single molecule is silly.
It is warmer than it was before.

How high does that molecule of CO2 hold that supposed IR?

Clarify what you mean by "how high".

They don't?

No. CO2 stops IR that would otherwise instantly escape an atmosphere lacking any GHG.

Doesn't the CO2 transfer to the O and N molecule?

By collision.

Asking the temperature of a single molecule is silly.
It is warmer than it was before.
are you saying the molecule gets warmer than the environment its in? Now that's magic.

are you saying the molecule gets warmer than the environment its in?

No.
It is warmer than it was before.
Do you feel every single molecule in a given volume of atmosphere has the exact same energy level?

Again, talking single molecule temperatures is silly.

why? people keep saying when we add them it gets warmer. I want to know how warm.

than it was before? before meaning what exactly?

people keep saying when we add them it gets warmer.

That's the idea.

I want to know how warm.

Me too. Let me know when you find out.

than it was before?

Yes.

before meaning what exactly?

Before the photon strikes it. Exactly.

 

[jc456]

so how warm is the CO2 after it absorbs and is that before it transfers the IR to the O and N molecules? How high does that molecule of CO2 hold that supposed IR?

nitrogen (N2) and oxygen (O2), which make up more than 90% of Earth's atmosphere, do not absorb infrared photons.

They don't? Doesn't the CO2 transfer to the O and N molecule? SSDD posted that in the other thread.

so how warm is the CO2 after it absorbs

Asking the temperature of a single molecule is silly.
It is warmer than it was before.

How high does that molecule of CO2 hold that supposed IR?

Clarify what you mean by "how high".

They don't?

No. CO2 stops IR that would otherwise instantly escape an atmosphere lacking any GHG.

Doesn't the CO2 transfer to the O and N molecule?

By collision.

Asking the temperature of a single molecule is silly.
It is warmer than it was before.
are you saying the molecule gets warmer than the environment its in? Now that's magic.

are you saying the molecule gets warmer than the environment its in?

No.
It is warmer than it was before.
Do you feel every single molecule in a given volume of atmosphere has the exact same energy level?

Again, talking single molecule temperatures is silly.

why? people keep saying when we add them it gets warmer. I want to know how warm.

than it was before? before meaning what exactly?

people keep saying when we add them it gets warmer.

That's the idea.

I want to know how warm.

Me too. Let me know when you find out.

than it was before?

Yes.

before meaning what exactly?

Before the photon strikes it. Exactly.

Me too. Let me know when you find out.
LOL

That's the idea.
you just said it doesn't get warmer than the surrounding environment so how would that be possible?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

so how warm is the CO2 after it absorbs

Asking the temperature of a single molecule is silly.
It is warmer than it was before.

How high does that molecule of CO2 hold that supposed IR?

Clarify what you mean by "how high".

They don't?

No. CO2 stops IR that would otherwise instantly escape an atmosphere lacking any GHG.

Doesn't the CO2 transfer to the O and N molecule?

By collision.

Asking the temperature of a single molecule is silly.
It is warmer than it was before.
are you saying the molecule gets warmer than the environment its in? Now that's magic.

are you saying the molecule gets warmer than the environment its in?

No.
It is warmer than it was before.
Do you feel every single molecule in a given volume of atmosphere has the exact same energy level?

Again, talking single molecule temperatures is silly.

why? people keep saying when we add them it gets warmer. I want to know how warm.

than it was before? before meaning what exactly?

people keep saying when we add them it gets warmer.

That's the idea.

I want to know how warm.

Me too. Let me know when you find out.

than it was before?

Yes.

before meaning what exactly?

Before the photon strikes it. Exactly.

Me too. Let me know when you find out.
LOL

That's the idea.
you just said it doesn't get warmer than the surrounding environment so how would that be possible?

you just said it doesn't get warmer than the surrounding environment

Reread that. I didn't say anything about how the new, warmer CO2 compared to the surroundings.

Is the idea that not every molecule has the same energy level too complex?

 

[jc456]

Asking the temperature of a single molecule is silly.
It is warmer than it was before.
are you saying the molecule gets warmer than the environment its in? Now that's magic.

are you saying the molecule gets warmer than the environment its in?

No.
It is warmer than it was before.
Do you feel every single molecule in a given volume of atmosphere has the exact same energy level?

Again, talking single molecule temperatures is silly.

why? people keep saying when we add them it gets warmer. I want to know how warm.

than it was before? before meaning what exactly?

people keep saying when we add them it gets warmer.

That's the idea.

I want to know how warm.

Me too. Let me know when you find out.

than it was before?

Yes.

before meaning what exactly?

Before the photon strikes it. Exactly.

Me too. Let me know when you find out.
LOL

That's the idea.
you just said it doesn't get warmer than the surrounding environment so how would that be possible?

you just said it doesn't get warmer than the surrounding environment

Reread that. I didn't say anything about how the new, warmer CO2 compared to the surroundings.

Is the idea that not every molecule has the same energy level too complex?

I did, here. you said it didn't.
oh well no surprise you went to a rat hole immediately.

well then post that experiment that shows how warm CO2 gets when it absorbs IR. Got that?

Molecules of carbon dioxide (CO2) can absorb energy from infrared (IR) radiation. This animation shows a molecule of CO2 absorbing an incoming infrared photon (yellow arrows). The energy from the photon causes the CO2 molecule to vibrate. Shortly thereafter, the molecule gives up this extra energy by emitting another infrared photon. Once the extra energy has been removed by the emitted photon, the carbon dioxide stops vibrating.

This ability to absorb and re-emit infrared energy is what makes CO2 an effective heat-trapping greenhouse gas. Not all gas molecules are able to absorb IR radiation. For example, nitrogen (N2) and oxygen (O2), which make up more than 90% of Earth's atmosphere, do not absorb infrared photons. CO2 molecules can vibrate in ways that simpler nitrogen and oxygen molecules cannot, which allows CO2 molecules to capture the IR photons.

Carbon Dioxide Absorbs and Re-emits Infrared Radiation | UCAR Center for Science Education

so how warm is the CO2 after it absorbs and is that before it transfers the IR to the O and N molecules? How high does that molecule of CO2 hold that supposed IR?

nitrogen (N2) and oxygen (O2), which make up more than 90% of Earth's atmosphere, do not absorb infrared photons.

They don't? Doesn't the CO2 transfer to the O and N molecule? SSDD posted that in the other thread.

so how warm is the CO2 after it absorbs

Asking the temperature of a single molecule is silly.
It is warmer than it was before.

How high does that molecule of CO2 hold that supposed IR?

Clarify what you mean by "how high".

They don't?

No. CO2 stops IR that would otherwise instantly escape an atmosphere lacking any GHG.

Doesn't the CO2 transfer to the O and N molecule?

By collision.

Asking the temperature of a single molecule is silly.
It is warmer than it was before.
are you saying the molecule gets warmer than the environment its in? Now that's magic.

are you saying the molecule gets warmer than the environment its in?

No.
It is warmer than it was before.
Do you feel every single molecule in a given volume of atmosphere has the exact same energy level?

Again, talking single molecule temperatures is silly.

I asked, does it get warmer than the surrounding environment? you said "NO"

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

are you saying the molecule gets warmer than the environment its in?

No.
It is warmer than it was before.
Do you feel every single molecule in a given volume of atmosphere has the exact same energy level?

Again, talking single molecule temperatures is silly.

why? people keep saying when we add them it gets warmer. I want to know how warm.

than it was before? before meaning what exactly?

people keep saying when we add them it gets warmer.

That's the idea.

I want to know how warm.

Me too. Let me know when you find out.

than it was before?

Yes.

before meaning what exactly?

Before the photon strikes it. Exactly.

Me too. Let me know when you find out.
LOL

That's the idea.
you just said it doesn't get warmer than the surrounding environment so how would that be possible?

you just said it doesn't get warmer than the surrounding environment

Reread that. I didn't say anything about how the new, warmer CO2 compared to the surroundings.

Is the idea that not every molecule has the same energy level too complex?

I did, here. you said it didn't.
oh well no surprise you went to a rat hole immediately.

Molecules of carbon dioxide (CO2) can absorb energy from infrared (IR) radiation. This animation shows a molecule of CO2 absorbing an incoming infrared photon (yellow arrows). The energy from the photon causes the CO2 molecule to vibrate. Shortly thereafter, the molecule gives up this extra energy by emitting another infrared photon. Once the extra energy has been removed by the emitted photon, the carbon dioxide stops vibrating.

This ability to absorb and re-emit infrared energy is what makes CO2 an effective heat-trapping greenhouse gas. Not all gas molecules are able to absorb IR radiation. For example, nitrogen (N2) and oxygen (O2), which make up more than 90% of Earth's atmosphere, do not absorb infrared photons. CO2 molecules can vibrate in ways that simpler nitrogen and oxygen molecules cannot, which allows CO2 molecules to capture the IR photons.

Carbon Dioxide Absorbs and Re-emits Infrared Radiation | UCAR Center for Science Education

so how warm is the CO2 after it absorbs and is that before it transfers the IR to the O and N molecules? How high does that molecule of CO2 hold that supposed IR?

nitrogen (N2) and oxygen (O2), which make up more than 90% of Earth's atmosphere, do not absorb infrared photons.

They don't? Doesn't the CO2 transfer to the O and N molecule? SSDD posted that in the other thread.

so how warm is the CO2 after it absorbs

Asking the temperature of a single molecule is silly.
It is warmer than it was before.

How high does that molecule of CO2 hold that supposed IR?

Clarify what you mean by "how high".

They don't?

No. CO2 stops IR that would otherwise instantly escape an atmosphere lacking any GHG.

Doesn't the CO2 transfer to the O and N molecule?

By collision.

Asking the temperature of a single molecule is silly.
It is warmer than it was before.
are you saying the molecule gets warmer than the environment its in? Now that's magic.

are you saying the molecule gets warmer than the environment its in?

No.
It is warmer than it was before.
Do you feel every single molecule in a given volume of atmosphere has the exact same energy level?

Again, talking single molecule temperatures is silly.

I asked, does it get warmer than the surrounding environment? you said "NO"

I asked, does it get warmer than the surrounding environment? you said "NO"

Wrong, you asked, "are you saying the molecule gets warmer than the environment its in?"

And I wasn't saying it was getting warmer than the environment or not.
Because taking the temperature of single molecules is silly.

Do you feel every single molecule in a given volume of atmosphere has the exact same energy level?

 

[jc456]

why? people keep saying when we add them it gets warmer. I want to know how warm.

than it was before? before meaning what exactly?

people keep saying when we add them it gets warmer.

That's the idea.

I want to know how warm.

Me too. Let me know when you find out.

than it was before?

Yes.

before meaning what exactly?

Before the photon strikes it. Exactly.

Me too. Let me know when you find out.
LOL

That's the idea.
you just said it doesn't get warmer than the surrounding environment so how would that be possible?

you just said it doesn't get warmer than the surrounding environment

Reread that. I didn't say anything about how the new, warmer CO2 compared to the surroundings.

Is the idea that not every molecule has the same energy level too complex?

I did, here. you said it didn't.
oh well no surprise you went to a rat hole immediately.

so how warm is the CO2 after it absorbs and is that before it transfers the IR to the O and N molecules? How high does that molecule of CO2 hold that supposed IR?

nitrogen (N2) and oxygen (O2), which make up more than 90% of Earth's atmosphere, do not absorb infrared photons.

They don't? Doesn't the CO2 transfer to the O and N molecule? SSDD posted that in the other thread.

so how warm is the CO2 after it absorbs

Asking the temperature of a single molecule is silly.
It is warmer than it was before.

How high does that molecule of CO2 hold that supposed IR?

Clarify what you mean by "how high".

They don't?

No. CO2 stops IR that would otherwise instantly escape an atmosphere lacking any GHG.

Doesn't the CO2 transfer to the O and N molecule?

By collision.

Asking the temperature of a single molecule is silly.
It is warmer than it was before.
are you saying the molecule gets warmer than the environment its in? Now that's magic.

are you saying the molecule gets warmer than the environment its in?

No.
It is warmer than it was before.
Do you feel every single molecule in a given volume of atmosphere has the exact same energy level?

Again, talking single molecule temperatures is silly.

I asked, does it get warmer than the surrounding environment? you said "NO"

I asked, does it get warmer than the surrounding environment? you said "NO"

Wrong, you asked, "are you saying the molecule gets warmer than the environment its in?"

And I wasn't saying it was getting warmer than the environment or not.
Because taking the temperature of single molecules is silly.

Do you feel every single molecule in a given volume of atmosphere has the exact same energy level?

blah, blah, blah, you got nothing todd.