Trump deal loses 1300 jobs before he ever takes office ..

[AmericanFirst1]

Oye vay....where does it end?

Another unarmed moron who thinks he can actually have
a battle of wits with, of all posters, TNHarley

PRETEND you can read, and get a room with harley ..

So what were the "incentives"? In the end, UTC agreed to retain approximately 800 manufacturing jobs at the Indiana plant that had been slated to move to Mexico, as well as another 300 engineering and headquarters jobs. In return, the company will get roughly $700,000 a year for a period of years in state tax incentives. Still, some 1,300 jobs will still go to Mexico, which includes 600 Carrier employees, plus 700 workers from UTEC Controls in Huntington, Ind.

In summary, the "math" works out to $636 per year per job saved in tax savings: hardly an egregious sum, and one which could likely be extended to other companies (unless, of course, those other companies decide to hold Trump hostage and demand escalating pay schedules) if and when Trump's fiscal stimulus package is implemented. It remains to be seen if the popular response, outside of conservative groups, will interpret this trade off as taxpayer funded "moral hazard."


want the link Ellie Mae?

PRETEND you can read, and get a room with harley ..

Nice "cumback", did you scrape it from the back of your throat?

stfu, you're trolling.

stfu, you're trolling

You stfu, I'm not trolling, there's nothing to work with here!

Why is it acceptable for you to be an idiot,
but not acceptable for me to point it out?

theres facts posted in the very first thread ... you're just too damn Dumb to do anything but troll, TROLL.

Libtards are the dumb ones, dumbass. Libtard facts are made up fantasies. No one believes you libtards anymore after all your lies, scumbag.

 

[keepitreal]

The big question is ,

how long will the Trumpbots be able to pretend that they really support good paying UNION jobs for Americans?

we're on a union busting trip friend. watch and learn.

Unions are not what they used to be,
and while I'm sure there's a few good ones left,
Unions are basically bullshit now!

That's what the money interests always say. The ones that want to bring on or bring back low wages in America,.

That's what the money interests always say. The ones that want to bring on or bring back low wages in America,.

I have 25 yrs vested in UFCW local 881
My immediate family are union members
My father was able to retire at the age of 53
with a Teamster pension...reduced, but decent nonetheless.

A decent wage is about all a union is good for anymore!
Just like elections...people don't get involved
They don't go to meetings or vote on contract changes

Union reps are like used car salesmen

It was tiring keeping co workers in the loop
and having to dispel the bs from the union rep

 

[Siete]

Breaking ! (added for RW drama)

Conveniently, we now have the details.

As Fortune reports, citing a source close to the company, Trump called Greg Hayes, CEO of Carrier’s parent company United Technologies, two weeks ago and asked him to rethink the decision to close the Carrier plant in Indiana. Hayes explained that the jobs were lower-wage and had high turnover, and the move was necessary to keep the plant competitive, according to the source. He said the plan would save the company $65 million a year.

Trump then replied that those savings would be dwarfed by the savings UTC would enjoy from corporate tax-rate reductions he planned to put in place. During the recent campaign, Trump threatened to slap tariffs on Carrier imports from Mexico.

So what were the "incentives"? In the end, UTC agreed to retain approximately 800 manufacturing jobs at the Indiana plant that had been slated to move to Mexico, as well as another 300 engineering and headquarters jobs. In return, the company will get roughly $700,000 a year for a period of years in state tax incentives. Still, some 1,300 jobs will still go to Mexico, which includes 600 Carrier employees, plus 700 workers from UTEC Controls in Huntington, Ind.

In summary, the "math" works out to $636 per year per job saved in tax savings: hardly an egregious sum, and one which could likely be extended to other companies (unless, of course, those other companies decide to hold Trump hostage and demand escalating pay schedules) if and when Trump's fiscal stimulus package is implemented. It remains to be seen if the popular response, outside of conservative groups, will interpret this trade off as taxpayer funded "moral hazard."


write this down ...

Still, some 1,300 jobs will still go to Mexico, which includes 600 Carrier employees, plus 700 workers from UTEC Controls in Huntington, Ind.


SUCKERS !!!!!

Bet Obamacare lost many, many more. And don't forget the fulltime jobs magically changed into parttime jobs.

Here's your magic:

Have someone explain that chart to you.

full time jobs increase, part time jobs decrease isn't a simple concept for idgets ... even when they try really hard.

 

[jc456]

The big question is ,

how long will the Trumpbots be able to pretend that they really support good paying UNION jobs for Americans?

we're on a union busting trip friend. watch and learn.

Right. Which means that all of Trump and Trump supporters' bullshit about bringing back good paying jobs to the US, or even creating good paying jobs IN the US,

is just that, Bullshit.

dude, he has Soft Bank coming in to build manufacturing. Signed deal. he has done some other business as well. And look, he ain't in office yet.

 

[jc456]

only Trumpbots suck Trumps cock for bribing a company and still losing more jobs than it kept.

dude, you still state what the bribe was. why not?

SURE I DID, TWICE, you're just too damn dumb to keep up

cool, what post number?

 

[Meathead]

Just a matter of time before America is great again!

 

[jc456]

You don't care because you have already become a part of the Borg. For you, resistance was futile.

because it doesn't matter what his income is. how is that a sign of business production?

Ever been to Atlantic City?

you're talking to jc, remember ? might as well shut the door, pull up a chair and debate the door knob.

dude you have no idea what debating is and why you hate debating me. thanks i stand proud that I successfully beat your biased ass to the ground.

i admit that you are, indeed, a legend in your own mind.....

if any of you knew what the word humility was, this board would be so much nicer.

 

[BluesLegend]

only Trumpbots suck Trumps cock for bribing a company and still losing more jobs than it kept.

Only a punch drunk liberal would grip about Trump saving middle class jobs. You Dem's better get these freaks under control or you won't have a party left.

only a dumbass RW can misspell GRIPE

ain't that right Liberace' ?

only a lonely libturd who starts a thread on how someone saving 1100 jobs lost 1300 would point out a typo. how you feeling siete? got any of that stupid left to share?

This fool takes the short yellow bus to school.

 

[jc456]

because it doesn't matter what his income is. how is that a sign of business production?

Ever been to Atlantic City?

you're talking to jc, remember ? might as well shut the door, pull up a chair and debate the door knob.

What I have not even mentioned is that Trump intends to grow the economy with run away inflation, thereby paying off expensive debt, with cheap inflated dollars, which will further erode the middle class, and utterly destroy people on fixed income. If you think that Jimmy Carter's 21% inflation rate was bad, you ain't seen nothing yet.

a 20 billion dollar wall, countless military $$$$ending, and revamping our $$$$$$$ Nuclear program sounds great to simpleton Trumpbots ... $4.95 for a loaf of bread? we'll see how much they love Donnieboi then.

Don't forget the $1 trillion on infrastructure, along with reduced taxes. Set timer for 1 year, bake at 500 degrees, and you will have a delightful inflation cake!

they've been wanting to raise the interest rate for some time, but the GDP is soooooooo low they won't. So, once the GDP goes up, you bet your ass interest rates will go up. Again, a lack of understanding on your part on what the interest rate is across the board.

Breaking ! (added for RW drama)

Conveniently, we now have the details.

As Fortune reports, citing a source close to the company, Trump called Greg Hayes, CEO of Carrier’s parent company United Technologies, two weeks ago and asked him to rethink the decision to close the Carrier plant in Indiana. Hayes explained that the jobs were lower-wage and had high turnover, and the move was necessary to keep the plant competitive, according to the source. He said the plan would save the company $65 million a year.

Trump then replied that those savings would be dwarfed by the savings UTC would enjoy from corporate tax-rate reductions he planned to put in place. During the recent campaign, Trump threatened to slap tariffs on Carrier imports from Mexico.

So what were the "incentives"? In the end, UTC agreed to retain approximately 800 manufacturing jobs at the Indiana plant that had been slated to move to Mexico, as well as another 300 engineering and headquarters jobs. In return, the company will get roughly $700,000 a year for a period of years in state tax incentives. Still, some 1,300 jobs will still go to Mexico, which includes 600 Carrier employees, plus 700 workers from UTEC Controls in Huntington, Ind.

In summary, the "math" works out to $636 per year per job saved in tax savings: hardly an egregious sum, and one which could likely be extended to other companies (unless, of course, those other companies decide to hold Trump hostage and demand escalating pay schedules) if and when Trump's fiscal stimulus package is implemented. It remains to be seen if the popular response, outside of conservative groups, will interpret this trade off as taxpayer funded "moral hazard."


write this down ...

Still, some 1,300 jobs will still go to Mexico, which includes 600 Carrier employees, plus 700 workers from UTEC Controls in Huntington, Ind.


SUCKERS !!!!!

Bet Obamacare lost many, many more. And don't forget the fulltime jobs magically changed into parttime jobs.

Here's your magic:

Have someone explain that chart to you.

you're right that's magic, cause that is some kind of nonsense there. who is dshort.com anyway?

 

[BluesLegend]

only a dumbass RW can misspell GRIPE

ain't that right Liberace' ?

only a lonely libturd who starts a thread on how someone saving 1100 jobs lost 1300 would point out a typo. how you feeling siete? got any of that stupid left to share?

one more time for a Trump corpory ... more were lost than KEPT ... he didnt CREATE ONE SINGLE JOB like he said he was going to

he didn't say he would create any jobs. so i'm not sure what you're referring to. care to educate us on when he said he'd create jobs?

here ya go shitbreath ..

“I’m going to bring jobs back from China. I’m going to bring jobs back from Mexico and from Japan,” Trump said during the Feb. 13 GOP


Trump didn't bring back one single job from Mexico with his Carrier deal .. 1300 left and WENT TO MEXICO... noW tell everyone you're too fucking stupid to fathom that ... HIS OWN WORDS!

don't see any 'create' in any of that. you said 'create' want to try again baphoney?

Are you mocking his lies?

 

[Lastamender]

Breaking ! (added for RW drama)

Conveniently, we now have the details.

As Fortune reports, citing a source close to the company, Trump called Greg Hayes, CEO of Carrier’s parent company United Technologies, two weeks ago and asked him to rethink the decision to close the Carrier plant in Indiana. Hayes explained that the jobs were lower-wage and had high turnover, and the move was necessary to keep the plant competitive, according to the source. He said the plan would save the company $65 million a year.

Trump then replied that those savings would be dwarfed by the savings UTC would enjoy from corporate tax-rate reductions he planned to put in place. During the recent campaign, Trump threatened to slap tariffs on Carrier imports from Mexico.

So what were the "incentives"? In the end, UTC agreed to retain approximately 800 manufacturing jobs at the Indiana plant that had been slated to move to Mexico, as well as another 300 engineering and headquarters jobs. In return, the company will get roughly $700,000 a year for a period of years in state tax incentives. Still, some 1,300 jobs will still go to Mexico, which includes 600 Carrier employees, plus 700 workers from UTEC Controls in Huntington, Ind.

In summary, the "math" works out to $636 per year per job saved in tax savings: hardly an egregious sum, and one which could likely be extended to other companies (unless, of course, those other companies decide to hold Trump hostage and demand escalating pay schedules) if and when Trump's fiscal stimulus package is implemented. It remains to be seen if the popular response, outside of conservative groups, will interpret this trade off as taxpayer funded "moral hazard."


write this down ...

Still, some 1,300 jobs will still go to Mexico, which includes 600 Carrier employees, plus 700 workers from UTEC Controls in Huntington, Ind.


SUCKERS !!!!!

Bet Obamacare lost many, many more. And don't forget the fulltime jobs magically changed into parttime jobs.

Here's your magic:

Have someone explain that chart to you.

full time jobs increase, part time jobs decrease isn't a simple concept for idgets ... even when they try really hard.

I don't care what your chart looks like. This administration have twisted things so badly it has no meaning. Bottom line Obamacare was a job killer.

 

[Siete]

only a lonely libturd who starts a thread on how someone saving 1100 jobs lost 1300 would point out a typo. how you feeling siete? got any of that stupid left to share?

one more time for a Trump corpory ... more were lost than KEPT ... he didnt CREATE ONE SINGLE JOB like he said he was going to

he didn't say he would create any jobs. so i'm not sure what you're referring to. care to educate us on when he said he'd create jobs?

here ya go shitbreath ..

“I’m going to bring jobs back from China. I’m going to bring jobs back from Mexico and from Japan,” Trump said during the Feb. 13 GOP


Trump didn't bring back one single job from Mexico with his Carrier deal .. 1300 left and WENT TO MEXICO... noW tell everyone you're too fucking stupid to fathom that ... HIS OWN WORDS!

don't see any 'create' in any of that. you said 'create' want to try again baphoney?

Are you mocking his lies?

are you dumber than a rock or grasshopper ?

 

[BluesLegend]

one more time for a Trump corpory ... more were lost than KEPT ... he didnt CREATE ONE SINGLE JOB like he said he was going to

he didn't say he would create any jobs. so i'm not sure what you're referring to. care to educate us on when he said he'd create jobs?

here ya go shitbreath ..

“I’m going to bring jobs back from China. I’m going to bring jobs back from Mexico and from Japan,” Trump said during the Feb. 13 GOP


Trump didn't bring back one single job from Mexico with his Carrier deal .. 1300 left and WENT TO MEXICO... noW tell everyone you're too fucking stupid to fathom that ... HIS OWN WORDS!

don't see any 'create' in any of that. you said 'create' want to try again baphoney?

Are you mocking his lies?

are you dumber than a rock or grasshopper ?

Its not my fault you make yourself look like an idiot.

 

[Siete]

Breaking ! (added for RW drama)

Conveniently, we now have the details.

As Fortune reports, citing a source close to the company, Trump called Greg Hayes, CEO of Carrier’s parent company United Technologies, two weeks ago and asked him to rethink the decision to close the Carrier plant in Indiana. Hayes explained that the jobs were lower-wage and had high turnover, and the move was necessary to keep the plant competitive, according to the source. He said the plan would save the company $65 million a year.

Trump then replied that those savings would be dwarfed by the savings UTC would enjoy from corporate tax-rate reductions he planned to put in place. During the recent campaign, Trump threatened to slap tariffs on Carrier imports from Mexico.

So what were the "incentives"? In the end, UTC agreed to retain approximately 800 manufacturing jobs at the Indiana plant that had been slated to move to Mexico, as well as another 300 engineering and headquarters jobs. In return, the company will get roughly $700,000 a year for a period of years in state tax incentives. Still, some 1,300 jobs will still go to Mexico, which includes 600 Carrier employees, plus 700 workers from UTEC Controls in Huntington, Ind.

In summary, the "math" works out to $636 per year per job saved in tax savings: hardly an egregious sum, and one which could likely be extended to other companies (unless, of course, those other companies decide to hold Trump hostage and demand escalating pay schedules) if and when Trump's fiscal stimulus package is implemented. It remains to be seen if the popular response, outside of conservative groups, will interpret this trade off as taxpayer funded "moral hazard."


write this down ...

Still, some 1,300 jobs will still go to Mexico, which includes 600 Carrier employees, plus 700 workers from UTEC Controls in Huntington, Ind.


SUCKERS !!!!!

Bet Obamacare lost many, many more. And don't forget the fulltime jobs magically changed into parttime jobs.

Here's your magic:

Have someone explain that chart to you.

full time jobs increase, part time jobs decrease isn't a simple concept for idgets ... even when they try really hard.

I don't care what your chart looks like. This administration have twisted things so badly it has no meaning. Bottom line Obamacare was a job killer.

not my chart ... still the concept escapes you,

 

[Lastamender]

Breaking ! (added for RW drama)

Conveniently, we now have the details.

As Fortune reports, citing a source close to the company, Trump called Greg Hayes, CEO of Carrier’s parent company United Technologies, two weeks ago and asked him to rethink the decision to close the Carrier plant in Indiana. Hayes explained that the jobs were lower-wage and had high turnover, and the move was necessary to keep the plant competitive, according to the source. He said the plan would save the company $65 million a year.

Trump then replied that those savings would be dwarfed by the savings UTC would enjoy from corporate tax-rate reductions he planned to put in place. During the recent campaign, Trump threatened to slap tariffs on Carrier imports from Mexico.

So what were the "incentives"? In the end, UTC agreed to retain approximately 800 manufacturing jobs at the Indiana plant that had been slated to move to Mexico, as well as another 300 engineering and headquarters jobs. In return, the company will get roughly $700,000 a year for a period of years in state tax incentives. Still, some 1,300 jobs will still go to Mexico, which includes 600 Carrier employees, plus 700 workers from UTEC Controls in Huntington, Ind.

In summary, the "math" works out to $636 per year per job saved in tax savings: hardly an egregious sum, and one which could likely be extended to other companies (unless, of course, those other companies decide to hold Trump hostage and demand escalating pay schedules) if and when Trump's fiscal stimulus package is implemented. It remains to be seen if the popular response, outside of conservative groups, will interpret this trade off as taxpayer funded "moral hazard."


write this down ...

Still, some 1,300 jobs will still go to Mexico, which includes 600 Carrier employees, plus 700 workers from UTEC Controls in Huntington, Ind.


SUCKERS !!!!!

Bet Obamacare lost many, many more. And don't forget the fulltime jobs magically changed into parttime jobs.

Here's your magic:

Have someone explain that chart to you.

full time jobs increase, part time jobs decrease isn't a simple concept for idgets ... even when they try really hard.

I don't care what your chart looks like. This administration have twisted things so badly it has no meaning. Bottom line Obamacare was a job killer.

not my chart ... still the concept escapes you,

Does the beating Democrats received escape you? The voters clearly hate Obamas policies.

 

[Siete]

Bet Obamacare lost many, many more. And don't forget the fulltime jobs magically changed into parttime jobs.

Here's your magic:

Have someone explain that chart to you.

full time jobs increase, part time jobs decrease isn't a simple concept for idgets ... even when they try really hard.

I don't care what your chart looks like. This administration have twisted things so badly it has no meaning. Bottom line Obamacare was a job killer.

not my chart ... still the concept escapes you,

Does the beating Democrats received escape you? The voters clearly hate Obamas policies.

I could care less, I didn't vote for Clinton ... disappointed aren't you?

LMAO

 

[Siete]

he didn't say he would create any jobs. so i'm not sure what you're referring to. care to educate us on when he said he'd create jobs?

here ya go shitbreath ..

“I’m going to bring jobs back from China. I’m going to bring jobs back from Mexico and from Japan,” Trump said during the Feb. 13 GOP


Trump didn't bring back one single job from Mexico with his Carrier deal .. 1300 left and WENT TO MEXICO... noW tell everyone you're too fucking stupid to fathom that ... HIS OWN WORDS!

don't see any 'create' in any of that. you said 'create' want to try again baphoney?

Are you mocking his lies?

are you dumber than a rock or grasshopper ?

Its not my fault you make yourself look like an idiot.

do the world a favor and STFU ... all you do is GRIP

BBBAAAWWWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA ... IDIOT.

 

[Lastamender]

Here's your magic:

Have someone explain that chart to you.

full time jobs increase, part time jobs decrease isn't a simple concept for idgets ... even when they try really hard.

I don't care what your chart looks like. This administration have twisted things so badly it has no meaning. Bottom line Obamacare was a job killer.

not my chart ... still the concept escapes you,

Does the beating Democrats received escape you? The voters clearly hate Obamas policies.

I could care less, I didn't vote for Clinton ... disappointed aren't you?

LMAO

Not as disappointed as you. Suck it up, pal.

 

[edthecynic]

dude, he has Soft Bank coming in to build manufacturing. Signed deal.

The SoftBank deal was signed BEFORE the election. Tramp is typically taking credit for other people's hard work!

 

[edthecynic]

they've been wanting to raise the interest rate for some time, but the GDP is soooooooo low they won't.

The FED started raising the rate on Dec 16, 2015. The Fed raised the rate again most recently this very month. So much for your Trumpery about GDP.