Trump Files Lawsuit Against Big Tech Over Censorship (Poll)

Do you agree with Trump that big tech needs to be broken up and put under strict regulation ?

  • Yes

    Votes: 18 47.4%
  • No

    Votes: 20 52.6%

  • Total voters
    38
Repealing Section 230 is what Republicans want.
I don’t think so. I think they’re just using it as a threat to get their way. Republicans must know how bad repealing section 230 would be for everyone, including social media users and the company.

What they actually want is for social media to tolerate their bad behavior and are using this as a threat to get their way.
Its my understanding that Republicans still support the DOJ recommendations made under Barr:

Section 230 is a section of the United States Communications Decency Act that generally provides immunity for website platforms from third-party content. At its core, Section 230(c)(1) provides immunity from liability for providers and users of an "interactive computer service" who publish information provided by third-party users:

2020 Department of Justice review[edit]​

In February 2020, the United States Department of Justice held a workshop related to Section 230 as part of an ongoing antitrust probe into "big tech" companies. Attorney General William Barr said that while Section 230 was needed to protect the Internet's growth while most companies were not stable, "No longer are technology companies the underdog upstarts...They have become titans of U.S. industry" and questioned the need for Section 230's broad protections.[78] Barr said that the workshop was not meant to make policy decisions on Section 230, but part of a "holistic review" related to Big Tech since "not all of the concerns raised about online platforms squarely fall within antitrust" and that the Department of Justice would want to see reform and better incentives to improve online content by tech companies within the scope of Section 230 rather than change the law directly.[78] Observers to the sessions stated the focus of the talks only covered Big Tech and small sites that engaged in areas of revenge porn, harassment, and child sexual abuse, but did not consider much of the intermediate uses of the Internet.[79]

The DOJ issued their four major recommendations to Congress in June 2020 to modify Section 230. These include:
  1. Incentivizing platforms to deal with illicit content, including calling out "Bad Samaritans" that solicit illicit activity and remove their immunity, and carve out exemptions in the areas of child abuse, terrorism, and cyber-stalking, as well as when platforms have been notified by courts of illicit material;
  2. Removing protections from civil lawsuits brought by the federal government;
  3. Disallowing Section 230 protections in relationship to antitrust actions on the large Internet platforms; and
  4. Promoting discourse and transparency by defining existing terms in the statute like "otherwise objectionable" and "good faith" with specific language, and requiring platforms to publicly document when they take moderation actions against content unless that may interfere with law enforcement or risk harm to an individual.
 
Its my understanding that Republicans still support the DOJ recommendations made under Barr:
These recommendations wouldn’t help Trump as it wouldn’t prevent him from being taken off their platforms.

Fundamentally, these are free speech issues. Facebook and social media have the freedom to remove people from their platform.

Legal liability for defamation doesn’t really have much to do with it. It’s just that section 230 provides a nice cudgel to attack social media.
 
I'm not litigating that FB is a monopoly here on the USMB. I think it is, and you think its not. We'll see how it shakes out in court.
The monopoly issue is only one item, the 2nd issue is Section 230 protection from lawsuits. The battle-lines are already drawn on that one. See my post #52.
The idea that Facebook is a monopoly isn’t a part of Trump’s lawsuit as far as I’ve read. The anti-trust cases filed by the Trump administration against social media were recently dismissed from court. I don’t think there is any active litigation on this matter.

Trump thinks he can get the courts to declare section 230 unconstititional in his lawsuit which is absolutely absurd and his argument to support it is nonsense.

Conservatives mostly get the purpose of section 230 completely backwards. It was always intended to provide internet platforms the ability to decide for themselves what content was allowable on their sites without having to fear taking on legal liability. Repealing 230 is not what anyone really wants.
Repealing Section 230 is what Republicans want.
Repealing 230 gives us more censorship and less free speech! Why would you want that...?
 
I'm not litigating that FB is a monopoly here on the USMB. I think it is, and you think its not. We'll see how it shakes out in court.
The monopoly issue is only one item, the 2nd issue is Section 230 protection from lawsuits. The battle-lines are already drawn on that one. See my post #52.
The idea that Facebook is a monopoly isn’t a part of Trump’s lawsuit as far as I’ve read. The anti-trust cases filed by the Trump administration against social media were recently dismissed from court. I don’t think there is any active litigation on this matter.

Trump thinks he can get the courts to declare section 230 unconstititional in his lawsuit which is absolutely absurd and his argument to support it is nonsense.

Conservatives mostly get the purpose of section 230 completely backwards. It was always intended to provide internet platforms the ability to decide for themselves what content was allowable on their sites without having to fear taking on legal liability. Repealing 230 is not what anyone really wants.
Repealing Section 230 is what Republicans want.
Repealing 230 gives us more censorship and less free speech! Why would you want that...?
These idiot fucks don't give one shit about censorship or free speech or justice or anything reasonable. It's entirely about political retribution.
 
The SCOTUS will take a very dim view of social media banning a POTUS, shits about to hit the fan.
 
The SCOTUS will take a very dim view of social media banning a POTUS, shits about to hit the fan.

Think so? I bet they're smarter than that.
It's precisely the type of case the SCOTUS likes to weigh in on. 1st amendment vs corrupt organized censorship. That it was a POTUS who was censored wow, yeah the SCOTUS will take that case.
But they're not idiots. They'll recognize right away that this has nothing to do with the First Amendment.
 
The SCOTUS will take a very dim view of social media banning a POTUS, shits about to hit the fan.

Think so? I bet they're smarter than that.
It's precisely the type of case the SCOTUS likes to weigh in on. 1st amendment vs corrupt organized censorship. That it was a POTUS who was censored wow, yeah the SCOTUS will take that case.
But they're not idiots. They'll recognize right away that this has nothing to do with the First Amendment.
Big tech's corruption of 1st amendment rights oh big tech is in for a beating.
 
The SCOTUS will take a very dim view of social media banning a POTUS, shits about to hit the fan.

Think so? I bet they're smarter than that.
It's precisely the type of case the SCOTUS likes to weigh in on. 1st amendment vs corrupt organized censorship. That it was a POTUS who was censored wow, yeah the SCOTUS will take that case.
But they're not idiots. They'll recognize right away that this has nothing to do with the First Amendment.
Big tech's corruption of 1st amendment rights oh big tech is in for a beating.

You have NO first Amendment rights on this forum either.
 
The SCOTUS will take a very dim view of social media banning a POTUS, shits about to hit the fan.

Think so? I bet they're smarter than that.
It's precisely the type of case the SCOTUS likes to weigh in on. 1st amendment vs corrupt organized censorship. That it was a POTUS who was censored wow, yeah the SCOTUS will take that case.
But they're not idiots. They'll recognize right away that this has nothing to do with the First Amendment.
Big tech's corruption of 1st amendment rights oh big tech is in for a beating

It's funny. I was typing a reply, but then I remembered what a fucking idiot you are. So, you know, nevermind.
 
important censorship issue
There is no ‘censorship issue.’

Private social media editing their content as they’re at liberty to do isn’t ‘censorship.’

Censorship is when government seeks to preempt speech or publication through force of law, threatening publishers with punitive measures.
1. Killing "free speech" on social media is censorship
2. Banning conservatives isn't "editing content"
3. Big tech are monopolies, they control the media, control information, can oppress viewpoints they disagree with, so even though big tech isn't "the government" "big tech" can and does suppress free speech.
Wrong.

The doctrine of free speech concerns solely the relationship between government and those governed, not between or among private persons and entities, such as social media.
 
important censorship issue
There is no ‘censorship issue.’

Private social media editing their content as they’re at liberty to do isn’t ‘censorship.’

Censorship is when government seeks to preempt speech or publication through force of law, threatening publishers with punitive measures.
1. Killing "free speech" on social media is censorship
2. Banning conservatives isn't "editing content"
3. Big tech are monopolies, they control the media, control information, can oppress viewpoints they disagree with, so even though big tech isn't "the government" "big tech" can and does suppress free speech.
Wrong.

The doctrine of free speech concerns solely the relationship between government and those governed, not between or among private persons and entities, such as social media.

They don't understand that.. and neither does that moron Trump.
 
The SCOTUS will take a very dim view of social media banning a POTUS, shits about to hit the fan.

Think so? I bet they're smarter than that.
It's precisely the type of case the SCOTUS likes to weigh in on. 1st amendment vs corrupt organized censorship. That it was a POTUS who was censored wow, yeah the SCOTUS will take that case.
But they're not idiots. They'll recognize right away that this has nothing to do with the First Amendment.
Big tech's corruption of 1st amendment rights oh big tech is in for a beating.

You have NO first Amendment rights on this forum either.
Take a break from trolling moron, adults are discussing a likely SCOTUS case. I think your mom is calling you run along.
 
The SCOTUS will take a very dim view of social media banning a POTUS, shits about to hit the fan.

Think so? I bet they're smarter than that.
It's precisely the type of case the SCOTUS likes to weigh in on. 1st amendment vs corrupt organized censorship. That it was a POTUS who was censored wow, yeah the SCOTUS will take that case.
But they're not idiots. They'll recognize right away that this has nothing to do with the First Amendment.
Big tech's corruption of 1st amendment rights oh big tech is in for a beating

It's funny. I was typing a reply, but then I remembered what a fucking idiot you are. So, you know, nevermind.
I'm hiding the pain. I think you demonstrated to everyone you had no intention of discussing the issue.
 

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