Trump Files Lawsuit Against Big Tech Over Censorship (Poll)

Do you agree with Trump that big tech needs to be broken up and put under strict regulation ?

  • Yes

    Votes: 18 47.4%
  • No

    Votes: 20 52.6%

  • Total voters
    38
What do you recommend.
There’s no need to ‘recommend’ anything – you’re trying to contrive a ‘solution’ to a ‘problem’ that doesn’t exist.

Just because you and others on the right incorrectly perceive social media as being ‘mean’ to Trump and your fellow conservatives doesn’t warrant unnecessary, un-Constitutional government regulation.
 
“We’re asking the US District Court for the Southern District of Florida to order an immediate halt to stop social media companies’ illegal and shameful censorship of the American people. That’s exactly what they’re doing,” Trump said. “We’re demanding an end to the shadow banning, a stop to the silencing, a stop to the blacklisting, banishing, and canceling that you know so well.”
More ignorance, stupidity, and lies from Trump.
 
let's remember the reason why Trump was booted from social platforms in the first place: for violating their terms of service by using dangerous speech. For example, in upholding the decision to ban Trump from its platform after the deadly January 6 attack on the Capitol, Facebook's oversight board noted that his tweets contravened its rules that prohibit users from supporting or praising people "engaged in violence." He is now bannedfrom Facebook for at least two years. Similarly, in permanently banning him, Twitter noted that Trump's tweets violated its Glorification of Violence policy.


Trump has only himself to blame.
 
I'm curious if the USMB progs/dems will side with Trump on this important censorship issue, Should big tech be broken up? Should Section 230 be repealed? Should censorship end? Should Parler be reactivated? Should the "Fairness Doctrine" be revised and tried again? What do you recommend. I recommend "all of the above".

“We’re asking the US District Court for the Southern District of Florida to order an immediate halt to stop social media companies’ illegal and shameful censorship of the American people. That’s exactly what they’re doing,” Trump said. “We’re demanding an end to the shadow banning, a stop to the silencing, a stop to the blacklisting, banishing, and canceling that you know so well.”

Former Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi argued the platforms have “increasingly engaged in impermissible censorship resulting from threatened legislative action, a misguided reliance upon Section 230.” Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act is a 1996 provision that gives social media platforms legal liability shield over content posted on their platform by third parties.

Should big tech be broken up - Yes

Put under regulation? The devil is in the details.

Do I agree with the type of regulation trump is asking for. Not in a million years.

Trump wants to be able to use these large public platforms to lie with impunity. No fucking way. And to promote insurrection.
 
Come on Trump, hop aboard and let's get this USMB a-rockin'.
 
That’s exactly what they’re doing,” Trump said. “We’re demanding an end to the shadow banning, a stop to the silencing, a stop to the blacklisting, banishing, and canceling that you know so well.”

Watch out USMB Mods

You are NEXT! :ack-1:
Still waiting on a definitive answer if accusing another poster of being a pedophile is a ban able offence.
it's codified and tolerated trumptard behavior.
 
Clearly the 1st amendment prohibits the government from censoring the private press. It does not compel private industry to print the copious lies of a few lunatics, no matter how powerful they are.
Copious lies? You mean like CRT and the 1619 Project?
Here are 5 examples of the MSM (private industry) lies that unfairly hurt the Trump presidency:
1. The loser of the 2016 presidential election Hillary Clinton, along with her Democrat apologists, pushed on this narrative from the beginning. Trump was an illegitimate president due to his collusion with Russia leading up to the election, they said, an infraction so malicious he may have actually been guilty of treason and deserving of the death penalty. There have been instances of political malice between parties in our nation’s past, but never one quite like this.

2. Last week, over a year after most Americans became familiar with the medication, a new study out of New Jersey, the hardest hit state by COVID, shows that if used in conjunction with a regimen of zinc, hydroxychloroquine can give COVID patients upwards of a 200% better survival rate against COVID. Hydroxychloroquine is indeed a miracle drug.

3. We also became aware last week via a report from the Interior Department’s Inspector General that the actions by Park Police near Lafayette Square and St. John’s Church in Washington D.C. last June were not due to directives by President Trump in order to provide him with a “photo op,” as the media originally asserted. We were told that peaceful protesters were gathered near the recently burned church and the cops came and shot rubber bullets and tear gas at them just so Trump could have his picture taken in front of the church holding a bible.

4. During an appearance on 60 Minutes with Leslie Stahl in late-October, President Trump pointed to the younger Biden and correctly observed that Joe Biden was embroiled in a scandal over his son Hunter, but Stahl was defiant, insisting “He’s not. He’s not.” Oh Leslie, he is. He is.

5. The media is now trying to act surprised and put forth the façade that their misreporting on COVID’s origins was just an honest mistake. It wasn’t. The likelihood that COVID originated in China’s Wuhan Laboratory of Virology was clear from the beginning, but again, since Trump and former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo were beating this drum, they had to take the opposite position. But now that Biden has been elected and his administration is well under way, it is becoming increasing clear that COVID did indeed originate at the Wuhan lab, and was almost definitely manmade. And once again, it is obvious that the media lied to us. Did Fauci pay the Wuhan Lab for "gain of function" research on bat viruses, that killed 600,000 Americans? The MSM is covering that up.
What do any of those dubious allegations have to do with Trumpybear getting booted from the social media clubs and suing them?
 
I'm curious if the USMB progs/dems will side with Trump on this important censorship issue, Should big tech be broken up? Should Section 230 be repealed? Should censorship end? Should Parler be reactivated? Should the "Fairness Doctrine" be revised and tried again? What do you recommend. I recommend "all of the above".

“We’re asking the US District Court for the Southern District of Florida to order an immediate halt to stop social media companies’ illegal and shameful censorship of the American people. That’s exactly what they’re doing,” Trump said. “We’re demanding an end to the shadow banning, a stop to the silencing, a stop to the blacklisting, banishing, and canceling that you know so well.”

Former Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi argued the platforms have “increasingly engaged in impermissible censorship resulting from threatened legislative action, a misguided reliance upon Section 230.” Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act is a 1996 provision that gives social media platforms legal liability shield over content posted on their platform by third parties.

Should big tech be broken up - Yes

Put under regulation? The devil is in the details.

Do I agree with the type of regulation trump is asking for. Not in a million years.

Trump wants to be able to use these large public platforms to lie with impunity. No fucking way. And to promote insurrection.
But that's the way it works. If you put government in charge of shit, eventually your political opponents will be in charge of that shit - and they'll fuck you over if they can.

This is why we need to keep the scope and reach of government constrained.
 
Clearly the 1st amendment prohibits the government from censoring the private press. It does not compel private industry to print the copious lies of a few lunatics, no matter how powerful they are.
Copious lies? You mean like CRT and the 1619 Project?
Here are 5 examples of the MSM (private industry) lies that unfairly hurt the Trump presidency:
1. The loser of the 2016 presidential election Hillary Clinton, along with her Democrat apologists, pushed on this narrative from the beginning. Trump was an illegitimate president due to his collusion with Russia leading up to the election, they said, an infraction so malicious he may have actually been guilty of treason and deserving of the death penalty. There have been instances of political malice between parties in our nation’s past, but never one quite like this.

2. Last week, over a year after most Americans became familiar with the medication, a new study out of New Jersey, the hardest hit state by COVID, shows that if used in conjunction with a regimen of zinc, hydroxychloroquine can give COVID patients upwards of a 200% better survival rate against COVID. Hydroxychloroquine is indeed a miracle drug.

3. We also became aware last week via a report from the Interior Department’s Inspector General that the actions by Park Police near Lafayette Square and St. John’s Church in Washington D.C. last June were not due to directives by President Trump in order to provide him with a “photo op,” as the media originally asserted. We were told that peaceful protesters were gathered near the recently burned church and the cops came and shot rubber bullets and tear gas at them just so Trump could have his picture taken in front of the church holding a bible.

4. During an appearance on 60 Minutes with Leslie Stahl in late-October, President Trump pointed to the younger Biden and correctly observed that Joe Biden was embroiled in a scandal over his son Hunter, but Stahl was defiant, insisting “He’s not. He’s not.” Oh Leslie, he is. He is.

5. The media is now trying to act surprised and put forth the façade that their misreporting on COVID’s origins was just an honest mistake. It wasn’t. The likelihood that COVID originated in China’s Wuhan Laboratory of Virology was clear from the beginning, but again, since Trump and former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo were beating this drum, they had to take the opposite position. But now that Biden has been elected and his administration is well under way, it is becoming increasing clear that COVID did indeed originate at the Wuhan lab, and was almost definitely manmade. And once again, it is obvious that the media lied to us. Did Fauci pay the Wuhan Lab for "gain of function" research on bat viruses, that killed 600,000 Americans? The MSM is covering that up.
And you had such high hopes of turning Hunter Biden into an issue. I'm sure you are very disappointed.
When the justice system is two tier with the demrats getting a pass for the most part you look the other way. Biden or any left wing dem could steal the dome off the capital you and the other left wing dirt bags would say nice going guys.
 
I'm curious if the USMB progs/dems will side with Trump on this important censorship issue, Should big tech be broken up? Should Section 230 be repealed? Should censorship end? Should Parler be reactivated? Should the "Fairness Doctrine" be revised and tried again? What do you recommend. I recommend "all of the above".

“We’re asking the US District Court for the Southern District of Florida to order an immediate halt to stop social media companies’ illegal and shameful censorship of the American people. That’s exactly what they’re doing,” Trump said. “We’re demanding an end to the shadow banning, a stop to the silencing, a stop to the blacklisting, banishing, and canceling that you know so well.”

Former Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi argued the platforms have “increasingly engaged in impermissible censorship resulting from threatened legislative action, a misguided reliance upon Section 230.” Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act is a 1996 provision that gives social media platforms legal liability shield over content posted on their platform by third parties.
His lawsuits don't ask for the companies to be broken up. They ask for
  • his accounts, and those of other class mambers to be re-instated,
  • warning messages to be removed from his posts,
  • monetary damages and legal fees, including punitive damages,
  • Section 230 to be declared unconstitutional
Here are the lawsuits against Twitter and Youtube:


 
This is just another Trump fundraising publicity stunt. As soon as his lawyer announced the lawsuit - Trump immediately sent out requests for funds. His idiot base will surely oblige.

The former president said he’s seeking “potentially trillions of dollars” in damages.
Regardless of the suits’ legal merits, it may prove a boon to Trump’s war chest. He began fundraising on the claim immediately after the event concluded.

 
Clearly the 1st amendment prohibits the government from censoring the private press. It does not compel private industry to print the copious lies of a few lunatics, no matter how powerful they are.
Copious lies? You mean like CRT and the 1619 Project?
Here are 5 examples of the MSM (private industry) lies that unfairly hurt the Trump presidency:
1. The loser of the 2016 presidential election Hillary Clinton, along with her Democrat apologists, pushed on this narrative from the beginning. Trump was an illegitimate president due to his collusion with Russia leading up to the election, they said, an infraction so malicious he may have actually been guilty of treason and deserving of the death penalty. There have been instances of political malice between parties in our nation’s past, but never one quite like this.

2. Last week, over a year after most Americans became familiar with the medication, a new study out of New Jersey, the hardest hit state by COVID, shows that if used in conjunction with a regimen of zinc, hydroxychloroquine can give COVID patients upwards of a 200% better survival rate against COVID. Hydroxychloroquine is indeed a miracle drug.

3. We also became aware last week via a report from the Interior Department’s Inspector General that the actions by Park Police near Lafayette Square and St. John’s Church in Washington D.C. last June were not due to directives by President Trump in order to provide him with a “photo op,” as the media originally asserted. We were told that peaceful protesters were gathered near the recently burned church and the cops came and shot rubber bullets and tear gas at them just so Trump could have his picture taken in front of the church holding a bible.

4. During an appearance on 60 Minutes with Leslie Stahl in late-October, President Trump pointed to the younger Biden and correctly observed that Joe Biden was embroiled in a scandal over his son Hunter, but Stahl was defiant, insisting “He’s not. He’s not.” Oh Leslie, he is. He is.

5. The media is now trying to act surprised and put forth the façade that their misreporting on COVID’s origins was just an honest mistake. It wasn’t. The likelihood that COVID originated in China’s Wuhan Laboratory of Virology was clear from the beginning, but again, since Trump and former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo were beating this drum, they had to take the opposite position. But now that Biden has been elected and his administration is well under way, it is becoming increasing clear that COVID did indeed originate at the Wuhan lab, and was almost definitely manmade. And once again, it is obvious that the media lied to us. Did Fauci pay the Wuhan Lab for "gain of function" research on bat viruses, that killed 600,000 Americans? The MSM is covering that up.
And you had such high hopes of turning Hunter Biden into an issue. I'm sure you are very disappointed.
When the justice system is two tier with the demrats getting a pass for the most part you look the other way. Biden or any left wing dem could steal the dome off the capital you and the other left wing dirt bags would say nice going guys.
And the pathetic part is you believe that silly claim.
 
I'm curious if the USMB progs/dems will side with Trump on this important censorship issue, Should big tech be broken up? Should Section 230 be repealed? Should censorship end? Should Parler be reactivated? Should the "Fairness Doctrine" be revised and tried again? What do you recommend. I recommend "all of the above".

“We’re asking the US District Court for the Southern District of Florida to order an immediate halt to stop social media companies’ illegal and shameful censorship of the American people. That’s exactly what they’re doing,” Trump said. “We’re demanding an end to the shadow banning, a stop to the silencing, a stop to the blacklisting, banishing, and canceling that you know so well.”

Former Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi argued the platforms have “increasingly engaged in impermissible censorship resulting from threatened legislative action, a misguided reliance upon Section 230.” Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act is a 1996 provision that gives social media platforms legal liability shield over content posted on their platform by third parties.

Should big tech be broken up - Yes

Put under regulation? The devil is in the details.

Do I agree with the type of regulation trump is asking for. Not in a million years.

Trump wants to be able to use these large public platforms to lie with impunity. No fucking way. And to promote insurrection.
1. Whatever happened to "I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"?

2. Lie with impunity? Like the 1619 Project and CRT? Since when is there a Federal Department of Government Truth?

3. Glad we agree big tech needs to be broken up.
 
I'm curious if the USMB progs/dems will side with Trump on this important censorship issue, Should big tech be broken up? Should Section 230 be repealed? Should censorship end? Should Parler be reactivated? Should the "Fairness Doctrine" be revised and tried again? What do you recommend. I recommend "all of the above".

“We’re asking the US District Court for the Southern District of Florida to order an immediate halt to stop social media companies’ illegal and shameful censorship of the American people. That’s exactly what they’re doing,” Trump said. “We’re demanding an end to the shadow banning, a stop to the silencing, a stop to the blacklisting, banishing, and canceling that you know so well.”

Former Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi argued the platforms have “increasingly engaged in impermissible censorship resulting from threatened legislative action, a misguided reliance upon Section 230.” Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act is a 1996 provision that gives social media platforms legal liability shield over content posted on their platform by third parties.

Should big tech be broken up - Yes

Put under regulation? The devil is in the details.

Do I agree with the type of regulation trump is asking for. Not in a million years.

Trump wants to be able to use these large public platforms to lie with impunity. No fucking way. And to promote insurrection.
1. Whatever happened to "I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"?
And you have every right to say it. Just not on someone else's website without their permission. I have the right to free speech too. But I can't come into your home, spray paint 'BLACK LIVES MATTER' on your livingroom wall, and force you to keep it there.

That's not 'free speech'. That's me seizing your private property and turning into my private billboard.

Free speech is freedom from government intervention. And Facebook isn't the government, no matter what pseudo-legal gibberish that Trump has made up.
 
important censorship issue
There is no ‘censorship issue.’

Private social media editing their content as they’re at liberty to do isn’t ‘censorship.’

Censorship is when government seeks to preempt speech or publication through force of law, threatening publishers with punitive measures.
1. Killing "free speech" on social media is censorship
2. Banning conservatives isn't "editing content"
3. Big tech are monopolies, they control the media, control information, can oppress viewpoints they disagree with, so even though big tech isn't "the government" "big tech" can and does suppress free speech.
 
I'm curious if the USMB progs/dems will side with Trump on this important censorship issue, Should big tech be broken up? Should Section 230 be repealed? Should censorship end? Should Parler be reactivated? Should the "Fairness Doctrine" be revised and tried again? What do you recommend. I recommend "all of the above".

“We’re asking the US District Court for the Southern District of Florida to order an immediate halt to stop social media companies’ illegal and shameful censorship of the American people. That’s exactly what they’re doing,” Trump said. “We’re demanding an end to the shadow banning, a stop to the silencing, a stop to the blacklisting, banishing, and canceling that you know so well.”

Former Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi argued the platforms have “increasingly engaged in impermissible censorship resulting from threatened legislative action, a misguided reliance upon Section 230.” Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act is a 1996 provision that gives social media platforms legal liability shield over content posted on their platform by third parties.

Should big tech be broken up - Yes

Put under regulation? The devil is in the details.

Do I agree with the type of regulation trump is asking for. Not in a million years.

Trump wants to be able to use these large public platforms to lie with impunity. No fucking way. And to promote insurrection.
1. Whatever happened to "I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"?
And you have every right to say it. Just not on someone else's website without their permission. I have the right to free speech too. But I can't come into your home, spray paint 'BLACK LIVES MATTER' on your livingroom wall, and force you to keep it there.

That's not 'free speech'. That's me seizing your private property and turning into my private billboard.

Free speech is freedom from government intervention. And Facebook isn't the government, no matter what pseudo-legal gibberish that Trump has made up.
Totally agree, except that we are dealing with "monopolies" who control the flow of information.
If there were multiple Facebooks, Googles, Instagrams, etc. there would not be an issue, or if Section 230 legal protections weren't there there would be legal remedies.

FB isn't Zuckerberg's living room wall, its like the only newspaper in the country, and its used to present only one viewpoint. Its a monopoly.
 
important censorship issue
There is no ‘censorship issue.’

Private social media editing their content as they’re at liberty to do isn’t ‘censorship.’

Censorship is when government seeks to preempt speech or publication through force of law, threatening publishers with punitive measures.
1. Killing "free speech" on social media is censorship
You have no constitutional right to the use of someone else's website. Look at the 1st amendment. Read the first word. That's who can't infringe on your free speech.


2. Banning conservatives isn't "editing content"
Banning those who violate the terms of service they agreed to is editing content.

3. Big tech are monopolies, they control the media, control information, can oppress viewpoints they disagree with, so even though big tech isn't "the government" "big tech" can and does suppress free speech.
They are not monopolies. They are dozens if not hundreds of different companies. And none of them have a thing to do with your right to free speech.

Your rights are freedom from government intervention. You have no right to seize someone else's private property against their will and force them to promote your political beliefs. That's not what rights are. That's not what freedom is.
 
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