trump is trying to rewrite history....Russia was trying to help Hillary in 2016.

[kyzr]

Don't try to pull a switcharoo saying having private emails is okay.
Two different things.

You started off with a lie. Your line of reasoning hasn't improved from there.

Why Intent, Not Gross Negligence, is the Standard in Clinton Case

On July 5, FBI Director James Comey announced that he was not going to recommend the filing of criminal charges against Hillary Clinton over her use of a

warontherocks.com

"warontherocks"? really? "INTENT", that's your pushback against the charges against Hillary? You really agree with Comey that Hillary had no "intent" to hide anything with her secret bathroom server? Why the fuck else would it be needed if not to conduct criminal activities?
Your lies will come apart as Barr and Durham dig deeper. Don't be surprised if they do eventually "Lock Her Up", along with Comey, McCabe, Strzok, and the rest of the conspirators. Covering for Hillary, and Trapping Flynn.

 

[LeftofLeft]

Trump Now Rewriting History to Deny Russia Wanted Him to Win in 2016

“You can speak to Putin or anybody else — nobody has been tougher on Russian than I have,” says Trump in self-refuting claim.

nymag.com

Of course.....Russian stole the emails....sent them to Wikileaks to release and damage HIllary,,,,so that she would win... trump is the is the most dishonest POS in the world. The man is desperately trying to rewrite history. He has Barr removing the stench from Flynn. I am sure he has plans for Manafort and for Stone.

Anyone that supports this piece of garbage has to be brain dead.

Clinton pegged them right....they're deplorable.

No, she called anyone who did not vote for her “deplorable” and it was a core factor as to why she lost. Included in that group were white working men. Somehow being white and working was also viewed as “racist”.

She could have won if she hadn’t abandoned and insulted white men who want to work.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

TDS thread 1,576

On our way to 1,600

 

[Billiejeens]

Have no way of knowing if Russian propaganda influenced any American vote, do know that it was proven and acknowledged by both Republicans & Democrats that they tried. why are some saying that is not true now?

They have always tried to sow discord.
Nothing specific to this election occurred.

 

[MarcATL]

Good. I am Deplorable. You’re a race baiting asshole.

Yet another, nonsensical, made-up term from the lunatic fringe of the far right.

I welcome your hatred.

 

[Billiejeens]

Good. I am Deplorable. You’re a race baiting asshole.

Yet another, nonsensical, made-up term from the lunatic fringe of the far right.

I welcome your hatred.

You are not aware that - "race baiting asshole" is a thing?

 

[Porthos]

Are you sure you want to cast the first stone?
Look at Hillary's illegal server, then her crooked Foundation, then her destroying subpoenaed evidence, then her mishandling of classified info, then her campaign hiring Russians to write the Steele Dossier, I could go on, but that's a start.
Then we get to Comey, McCabe, Strzok, Page, Clapper, Brennan, Rosenstein, and the Operation Crossfire Hurricane Scandal. You know the list of crimes involved there.

Trump was illegally spied on by the intel agencies, Trump has 95% negative coverage by the "fake news" MSM, he beat the globalist Never-Trumpers, Wall Street, K-Street, the fake women's lib movement, the drug gangs, foreign influence. and had no way to win in 2016. Hillary had a 95% chance of winning. Trump won the biggest upset in US history.
Then after winning the sore losers launched their "insurance plan" to disrupt his 1st term. the illegal Mueller Investigation, that was a political hit job.
When Mueller was asked: What about FusionGPS, he said "what", "huh, I never heard of them, what do they have to do with Russian interference in 2016?"
Then he was asked, what about the Steele Dossier? "What's that?"

There are many books that detail the various crimes that democrats commit that are not prosecuted, and the perjury traps set for Republicans, like 33-year veteran General Flynn.

When Barr and Durham start with the indictments, don't start wailing.

Of course obama was worried about how badly Flynn was courupted with Russia. The obama administration was freaked out that trump could really screw things up. And his instability has proven out. It’s impossible to have an uneducated, failed businessman, who doesn’t believe in science, evolution, or exercise, run a country. need I go on. It’s a start.
Bottom line,trump was a threat, is a threat, and every problem trump has ever had is self created.

 

[MarcATL]

No, she called anyone who did not vote for her “deplorable” and it was a core factor as to why she lost. Included in that group were white working men. Somehow being white and working was also viewed as “racist”.

She could have won if she hadn’t abandoned and insulted white men who want to work.

No, that's not what happened. #Sorry

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Good. I am Deplorable. You’re a race baiting asshole.

Yet another, nonsensical, made-up term from the lunatic fringe of the far right.

I welcome your hatred.

Far right? I am A Jew. That’s impossible. Your ignorance has no bounds.

 

[LeftofLeft]

No, she called anyone who did not vote for her “deplorable” and it was a core factor as to why she lost. Included in that group were white working men. Somehow being white and working was also viewed as “racist”.

She could have won if she hadn’t abandoned and insulted white men who want to work.

No, that's not what happened. #Sorry

She lost. That definitely is what happened. She, like Gore, got consolation prizes by winning the popular vote but pissed away PA, OH, and WI.

 

[Yarddog]

Trump Now Rewriting History to Deny Russia Wanted Him to Win in 2016

“You can speak to Putin or anybody else — nobody has been tougher on Russian than I have,” says Trump in self-refuting claim.

nymag.com

Of course.....Russian stole the emails....sent them to Wikileaks to release and damage HIllary,,,,so that she would win... trump is the is the most dishonest POS in the world. The man is desperately trying to rewrite history. He has Barr removing the stench from Flynn. I am sure he has plans for Manafort and for Stone.

Anyone that supports this piece of garbage has to be brain dead.

While the President of Cloud Strike has come out and said they dont really know that Info was taken from the servers and he said they really dont know if it was the Russians, WE can be pretty sure that the Dossier was a piece of Russian Propaganda meant to help hurt Trump.
Why would Putin not want to have a Democrat in office? they draw lines in the sand they never back up, they don't back up allies on the Russian door step. Russia has a lot to love about a Democrat in Office.

Crowdstrike testified that there was no evidence of external intrusion - No Hack
They then immediately went to MSNBC and cried about how they were being maligned.

Yes, Clinton was a known entity to Russia - anyone who doesn't think Russia preferred her -is simply too ignorant to engage.

Right, and they keep trying to say Trump is or was a Russian asset basically. All the while it took Trump to back up our Ally the Ukraine. Obama administration was unable to take the hard steps necessary over 8 years.
The Democrats and other Globalists including some Repubs want Trump out because he is ruining the good thing they had going with China and Russia.

 

[kyzr]

Are you sure you want to cast the first stone?
Look at Hillary's illegal server, then her crooked Foundation, then her destroying subpoenaed evidence, then her mishandling of classified info, then her campaign hiring Russians to write the Steele Dossier, I could go on, but that's a start.
Then we get to Comey, McCabe, Strzok, Page, Clapper, Brennan, Rosenstein, and the Operation Crossfire Hurricane Scandal. You know the list of crimes involved there.

Trump was illegally spied on by the intel agencies, Trump has 95% negative coverage by the "fake news" MSM, he beat the globalist Never-Trumpers, Wall Street, K-Street, the fake women's lib movement, the drug gangs, foreign influence. and had no way to win in 2016. Hillary had a 95% chance of winning. Trump won the biggest upset in US history.
Then after winning the sore losers launched their "insurance plan" to disrupt his 1st term. the illegal Mueller Investigation, that was a political hit job.
When Mueller was asked: What about FusionGPS, he said "what", "huh, I never heard of them, what do they have to do with Russian interference in 2016?"
Then he was asked, what about the Steele Dossier? "What's that?"

There are many books that detail the various crimes that democrats commit that are not prosecuted, and the perjury traps set for Republicans, like 33-year veteran General Flynn.

When Barr and Durham start with the indictments, don't start wailing.

Of course obama was worried about how badly Flynn was courupted with Russia. The obama administration was freaked out that trump could really screw things up. And his instability has proven out. It’s impossible to have an uneducated, failed businessman, who doesn’t believe in science, evolution, or exercise, run a country. need I go on. It’s a start.
Bottom line,trump was a threat, is a threat, and every problem trump has ever had is self created.

Lets just say we have a very different world view.
1. Obama created ISIS, he let it expand and expand. Trump crushed it in a few months, problem solved.

Territory of the Islamic State - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Maximum extent of ISIL's territorial control in Syria and Iraq in late 2015.
2. Obama gave Iran about $150b in sanctions relief, and about $1.7b in cash via plane, so Iran could fund their nuke, ICBM, and fund their terror networks. Trump killed the top terrorist and warned Iran we will not hesitate to crush them if they don't behave, problem dealt with. Oh, BTW Mr. Ayatollah, if Iran sets off a nuke, their regime is officially over. No nukes, period, full stop.
3. Obama said NK is a tough problem, Trump is showing Kim Jung Un that opulent wealth is better than nukes and war.
4. Flynn was a 33-year veteran, Obama has more Russian worries with Hillary and Biden than Flynn, remember Obama's "Tell Vladimir I'll have more flexibility after the election"? That was a smokinmg gun. Show me anything incriminating on Flynn.
5. Trump is fixing all of Obama's screw-ups. Obama said "those jobs are not coming back", Trump is bringing those jobs back. Just look at the $12b semiconductor plant in AZ as a recent example. BO & the Bidens must like that Chinese cash, huh?

WSJ News Exclusive | Taiwan Firm to Build Chip Factory in U.S.

Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing, the world’s largest contract manufacturer of silicon chips, said it would spend $12 billion to build a chip factory in Arizona, as U.S. concerns grow about dependence on Asia for the technology.

www.wsj.com

6. Trump's economy was setting records before COVID-19, we'll see who the voters prefer, Biden or Trump.

Democrats are the threat, the uneducated, brainwashed, urban plantation dwellers who watch way too much TV.
Here are their policies that Trump will beat them like baby seals with:
1. Open borders, tear down the southern border fence/wall
2. Sanctuary cities & states
3. Free college
4. "Medicare for all", aka rationed healthcare, "Lois Lerner" in charge of your access to healthcare
5. Eliminate ICE and DHS, turn the US into the EU, with muslim "no go zones" and Sharia Law
6. Promote Globalism, whatever Wall Street wants Wall Street gets, see K-Street Cash
7. Paris Climate Change Treaty where the US pays $trillions to poor countries
8. Stupid trade agreements, e.g tax breaks to move factories overseas
9. Let China run roughshod over the US for trade and intellectual property theft
10. Let NK develop nukes and ICBM delivery systems, have no one capable of dealing with NK
11. Raise taxes to 70% on the wealthy, especially on corporations so they relocate overseas
12. Decriminalize all drug use and possession, Opioid deaths increase across the US
13. Gangs like MS-13 running rampant across the US
14. No steel or mining industries due to foreign "dumping" of subsidized products
15. No new pipelines and no offshore drilling
16. Medicare for all means rural hospitals will close
17. The dems' "Central Committee" appoints super-delegates to subvert real voters in primaries
18. Pack the US Supreme Court to promote liberal policies
19. Impeach anyone they deem not liberal enough, like Kavanaugh
20. Use the Federal Government to punish conservatives, like the IRS and Lois Lerner hounded conservatives
21. Use the Intel community to spy on the opposition party, like Hillary, FusionGPS, and the FBI/DOJ spied on Trump
22. Block voter ID laws to ensure fraud, and promote "vote harvesting" to steal elections
23. Refuse to provide funding for border walls/security, which DHS says is desperately needed.
24. Give $Trillions to Mexico and Central America for a Marshal Plan, but not help US citizens living in tent cities
25. Impose gun control, outlaw private gun sales, outlaw AR style rifles, restrict sales of bullets, etc.
26. "Green New Deal" Impose a "carbon tax" to punish anyone who works, heats their home, flies, or has a car
27. Anti-business democrat socialists caused Amazon to flee NYC taking 25,000 good paying jobs to VA
28. REPARATIONS to blacks to pay for slavery, $trillions owed by US voters
29. Excuse the murder of unwanted newborns, i.e. "infanticide"
30. Change the Electoral College to popular vote
31. All prisoners get to vote, even the Boston Marathon Bomber, so says Bernie
32. LGBTQ rights, trannys in military
33. Increase domestic surveillance, especially on "white supremacist" organizations
34. Add Senators and congressmen for DC and Puerto Rico
35. Be sure that any "red flag" laws exclude gang members (only get those rural guns)
36. Full welfare and free healthcare for illegal immigrants
37. Eliminate Hallmark channel for being racist, sexist and anti-LGBTQ
38. Eliminate the "cash bail system" whereby all criminals walk out after committing a crime.
39. Nationalize all of the electric utilities making them green by 2030
40. Pass "The New Way Forward Act", bringing back 480,000 deported illegals, giving them free everything

 

[Shelzin]

Trump Now Rewriting History to Deny Russia Wanted Him to Win in 2016

“You can speak to Putin or anybody else — nobody has been tougher on Russian than I have,” says Trump in self-refuting claim.

nymag.com

Of course.....Russian stole the emails....sent them to Wikileaks to release and damage HIllary,,,,so that she would win... trump is the is the most dishonest POS in the world. The man is desperately trying to rewrite history. He has Barr removing the stench from Flynn. I am sure he has plans for Manafort and for Stone.

Anyone that supports this piece of garbage has to be brain dead.

Personally I have STILL not seen any evidence that Russia did anything. I mean I've seen people say that various government entities said they did... But I've yet to see evidence.

I need that. I don't blindly believe or disbelieve things because someone/something else says so. To me... That seems like a "brain dead" thing to do.

Edit: If you do have a link to said evidence... PLEASE... Link me. Show me where I'm wrong.

You are an idiot....trumpettes cannot stand facts or truth. They wait to see what the Dear Leader says...which is a lie....and they obediently accept his lies. You are a Sheep. trump is leading you around by the nose like the neutered farm animals that you are. trump laughs at Sheep like you. And you bend over for him every day.

I didn't vote for Trump.

Could you please post the link to the evidence?

 

[OKTexas]

Trump Now Rewriting History to Deny Russia Wanted Him to Win in 2016

“You can speak to Putin or anybody else — nobody has been tougher on Russian than I have,” says Trump in self-refuting claim.

nymag.com

Of course.....Russian stole the emails....sent them to Wikileaks to release and damage HIllary,,,,so that she would win... trump is the is the most dishonest POS in the world. The man is desperately trying to rewrite history. He has Barr removing the stench from Flynn. I am sure he has plans for Manafort and for Stone.

Anyone that supports this piece of garbage has to be brain dead.

Guess you commies didn't get the memo, the owner of Crowdstrike, in house intel testimony, said they had no proof that anything was ex-filtrated from the DNC server by Russia. The hoax really was a hoax. Deal with it commie, you've been duped. Oh and Clapper buried info that the ruskies really wanted the bitch.

.

 

[Shelzin]

If Trump was crossing the Delaware river with his supporters, it would sink immediately because they forgot to bring the paddles. Depending on trump blowing really hard to cross that river.

https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/documents/Report_Volume4.pdf

That's not evidence. Well... It's evidence that a committee came to a conclusion. I don't trust that committee. I want the actual evidence. I mean you don't trust that committee either right? Why are you not asking for the direct evidence yourself? Why isn't everybody?

The report is heavily redacted and it is the same decision that the investigator came to. Repubs reviewed it and concurred. They have all the relevant information need to make a decision. Conspiracies are nice to avoid the inevitable. The truth is it was a unanimous decision made by republicans. May not like it but it is in the books.

When is a conspiracy not a conspiracy? When the scales of truth tip more in one direction would be idea but then again conspiracies make sense to those who want to believe it because they need something to believe.

I guess the big thing for me is I just don't trust the committee... I don't care what conclusion they came to. It doesn't mean anything unless I can judge the evidence myself.

Until I see said evidence it is, and always will be, a nothing burger.

 

[OKTexas]

The Senate review led by REPUBLICANS undercut allegations by Trump of Russian interference. This 3 year review by the Senate Intelligence Committee did unanimously find that the intelligence community assessment, pinning blame on Russia and outlining its goals to undercut American Democracy was correct and untainted by politics.

The committee of republicans found nothing to doubt intelligence assessment of Russian meddling which favored Trump

Report findings

The Intelligence community findings are not a "hoax." They are not in doubt because,. as Donald Trump stated, Vladimir Putin very strongly" denies them. Russian interference in the 2016 election is a fact and Donald Trump's deference to Putin only serves to further Russian disinformation and undermine efforts to defend the United States against ongoing attacks.

This report also provides additional evidence against Donald Trump s false assertions regarding Ukraine. For example, the Committee conducted an extensive examination of the intelligence demonstrating Russia's intrusions into DNC networks. That review, which confirmed the ICA's findings, is fundamentally incompatible with Trump's conspiracy theories about Ukrainian involvement, for which there is no supporting evidence of any kind.

The Committee found the ICA presents a coherent and well-constructed intelligence basis for the case of unprecedented Russian interference in the 2016 U.S. presidential election. On the analytic lines of the ICA, the Committee concludes that all II analytic lines are supported with all-source intelligence, although with varying substantiation. The Committee did not discover any significant analytic tradecraft issues in the preparation or final presentation of the ICA.

a heavily redacted document but the findings are a slap in the face to Trump as he tries to distance himself from Russian involvement and his comrade Barr and associates blow smoke up everyone ass. This is the guy leading the justice department who has turned them into Trumps personal lawyers

If Trump was crossing the Delaware river with his supporters, it would sink immediately because they forgot to bring the paddles. Depending on trump blowing really hard to cross that river.

https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/documents/Report_Volume4.pdf

If only they were aware of the info that was being kept from them by the intel community. You folks need to keep up.

.

 

[OKTexas]

History is a pack of lies agreed on

~S~

Trump's lapdog Barr sure proves that with his "history is written by the winners" cavalier chuckling and smirking statement.

Perhaps you should provide all of Barr's quote to give the class context, oh wait, you commies don't do that, do you? It's all about the propaganda.

.

 

[OKTexas]

Trump Now Rewriting History to Deny Russia Wanted Him to Win in 2016

“You can speak to Putin or anybody else — nobody has been tougher on Russian than I have,” says Trump in self-refuting claim.

nymag.com

Of course.....Russian stole the emails....sent them to Wikileaks to release and damage HIllary,,,,so that she would win... trump is the is the most dishonest POS in the world. The man is desperately trying to rewrite history. He has Barr removing the stench from Flynn. I am sure he has plans for Manafort and for Stone.

Anyone that supports this piece of garbage has to be brain dead.

Personally I have STILL not seen any evidence that Russia did anything. I mean I've seen people say that various government entities said they did... But I've yet to see evidence.

I need that. I don't blindly believe or disbelieve things because someone/something else says so. To me... That seems like a "brain dead" thing to do.

Edit: If you do have a link to said evidence... PLEASE... Link me. Show me where I'm wrong.

You are an idiot....trumpettes cannot stand facts or truth. They wait to see what the Dear Leader says...which is a lie....and they obediently accept his lies. You are a Sheep. trump is leading you around by the nose like the neutered farm animals that you are. trump laughs at Sheep like you. And you bend over for him every day.

Either you should familiarize with the recently released house intel committee transcripts of closed door testimony or just off yourself, I don't really care which, but your obvious ignorance is getting unbearable.

.

 

[OKTexas]

Why would Russia want Trump as opposed to Hillary

Why do you doubt the overwhelming evidence they did?

But again, why would they want Trump over Hillary?

And everytime you morons rant about overwhelming evidence, it's not actual evidence. It's more supposition piled on top of guess work, with large dash of unverified reports from un-named sources, along with a dessert of opinion masquerading as fact.

Democrats did get him to confirm the most damaging elements of his findings. Under intense questioning, Mr. Mueller said the president had not been cleared of obstructing justice, nor had he been completely exonerated, as Mr. Trump has so often declared; he said that the president had been untruthful in some of his under-oath responses during the probe; and he called Mr. Trump’s encouragement of WikiLeaks “problematic,” to say the least.

WikiLeaks published emails stolen by Russian agents during the 2016 campaign, first from the Democratic National Committee, then from Hillary Clinton’s campaign chairman, John Podesta. Mr. Trump cheered the group on repeatedly, praised its actions and urged voters to read the purloined communications.

Highlights of Robert Mueller’s Testimony to Congress (Published 2019)

A reluctant Mueller reiterated that President Trump “was not exculpated.”

www.nytimes.com

Actually Podesta gave whom ever his password because his IT guy screwed up.

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[Kilroy2]

The Senate review led by REPUBLICANS undercut allegations by Trump of Russian interference. This 3 year review by the Senate Intelligence Committee did unanimously find that the intelligence community assessment, pinning blame on Russia and outlining its goals to undercut American Democracy was correct and untainted by politics.

The committee of republicans found nothing to doubt intelligence assessment of Russian meddling which favored Trump

Report findings

The Intelligence community findings are not a "hoax." They are not in doubt because,. as Donald Trump stated, Vladimir Putin very strongly" denies them. Russian interference in the 2016 election is a fact and Donald Trump's deference to Putin only serves to further Russian disinformation and undermine efforts to defend the United States against ongoing attacks.

This report also provides additional evidence against Donald Trump s false assertions regarding Ukraine. For example, the Committee conducted an extensive examination of the intelligence demonstrating Russia's intrusions into DNC networks. That review, which confirmed the ICA's findings, is fundamentally incompatible with Trump's conspiracy theories about Ukrainian involvement, for which there is no supporting evidence of any kind.

The Committee found the ICA presents a coherent and well-constructed intelligence basis for the case of unprecedented Russian interference in the 2016 U.S. presidential election. On the analytic lines of the ICA, the Committee concludes that all II analytic lines are supported with all-source intelligence, although with varying substantiation. The Committee did not discover any significant analytic tradecraft issues in the preparation or final presentation of the ICA.

a heavily redacted document but the findings are a slap in the face to Trump as he tries to distance himself from Russian involvement and his comrade Barr and associates blow smoke up everyone ass. This is the guy leading the justice department who has turned them into Trumps personal lawyers

If Trump was crossing the Delaware river with his supporters, it would sink immediately because they forgot to bring the paddles. Depending on trump blowing really hard to cross that river.

https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/documents/Report_Volume4.pdf

If only they were aware of the info that was being kept from them by the intel community. You folks need to keep up.

.

You are saying that the intel community is hiding information from senate republicans but somehow you or some mysterious source are aware of it.

The committee led my republicans after 3 years of working on this agreed with the intel assessment of Russian interference. I know you believe that when Putin denied it when talking with trump that he was telling the truth. Trump who has access to the same information decided to believe Putin rather than the intel community. People need to wake up and stop living in a fantasy world.