Trump Lies About Being Against Iraq War

[jc456]

Trump lies huh?

Yeah.....every time he opens his mouth.

That's like complaining about a cold while visiting the cancer ward. LOL!

In other words, you're so used to it you don't even realize he is lying anymore?

Nah, we're just used to libtards making mountains out of mole hills because they have a dishonest, corrupt, lying and deeply flawed candidate to prop up.

Mountains out of mole hills? Do you remember the mountain the right tried to make out of Benghazi?

that isn't a mountain, that's factual. too bad.

 

[jc456]

so you admit the lie then. Thanks,

"So you..."

Again, nope

it can't be anything else. you said Trump said it and that isn't true. So you keep repeating it makes you a liar.

Trump said he supported the war. Now he says he never did. Which is the truth? Now call names child because thats all you got

well he never said he supported the war. That's where your vehicle leaves the road. Never. The actual interview with Stern is available. It was played on the radio here in Chicago this morning. Never said. Unless you have something other than that that can back that statement, then you are lying as I already pointed out.

Well shit, who is this guy that is doing a great Trump impression then?

yep that one, what were his words? Can you write them up here so I make sure you heard it correctly?

 

[jc456]

Last night Trump did one thing, and one thing only. He proved himself to be unprepared to be President of the United States. He turned every question into an assault on the performance of President Obama and Sect. Clinton, and offered zero substance on the issues other than the usual bravado of a narcissist. "Believe me" is unbelievable; his solutions are the words of of a snake oil salesman, nothing but nostrum .

huh? he answered every question he was asked. Hitlery gave a speech on her topics while doubling down on her poor judgement about Iraq in front of military people. Basically telling them, sorry I fked up and cost us thousands of lies, please vote for me so I can do better next time. Anyone disagree with that?

Sure he answered, but his answers didn't make sense.

so you didn't get the veterans affairs answer about seeing a doctor? you don't understand that he wants them to get checked by a private doctor if they can't get into a veterans hospital instead of getting sicker or dying. You don't like that? You'd prefer the veterans die? Is that what you're saying? That doesn't make sense to you?

BTW, he also directed them to his web page to get all the details. so that confused you as well?

 

[BULLDOG]

Trump lies huh?

Yeah.....every time he opens his mouth.

That's like complaining about a cold while visiting the cancer ward. LOL!

In other words, you're so used to it you don't even realize he is lying anymore?

Nah, we're just used to libtards making mountains out of mole hills because they have a dishonest, corrupt, lying and deeply flawed candidate to prop up.

Mountains out of mole hills? Do you remember the mountain the right tried to make out of Benghazi?

that isn't a mountain, that's factual. too bad.

Odd that none of the many investigations seemed to figure that out. Perhaps you can list the examples of wrong doing by Hillary that any one of those investigations found. I read the published reports by each of those investigations, and none of them listed any of her wrong doings. Were all those investigators in the bag for Hillary?

 

[ClosedCaption]

"So you..."

Again, nope

it can't be anything else. you said Trump said it and that isn't true. So you keep repeating it makes you a liar.

Trump said he supported the war. Now he says he never did. Which is the truth? Now call names child because thats all you got

well he never said he supported the war. That's where your vehicle leaves the road. Never. The actual interview with Stern is available. It was played on the radio here in Chicago this morning. Never said. Unless you have something other than that that can back that statement, then you are lying as I already pointed out.

Well shit, who is this guy that is doing a great Trump impression then?

yep that one, what were his words? Can you write them up here so I make sure you heard it correctly?

HS: Are you for invading Iraq?
DT: Yeah, I guess so.


So tell me that was a no. Go ahead

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Trump criticizes Clinton for having voted for the Iraq war but totally denies that he was also in favor of the Iraq war when there is proof that he told Howard Stern in an radio interview that he was for the invasion of Iraq.

That is called "lying" in any language, yet Matt Lauer didn't call him on it and other reporters have let him make that claim. Trump fits well within the Republican party of revising History.

Trump showed how "NOT" Presidential he is by waffling on all the other questions he was asked and totally made a fool of himself when Matt Lauer asked him if he had a plan for getting rid of ISIS....he stumbled all over himself answering that his plan is forcing the generals to come up with a plan....you can't make this up!

Of all the lies Donald Trump likes to tell while running for president, the one about being an early opponent of the 2003 Iraq War may be his favorite. Despite well-documented evidence that the casino mogul spoke in support of the ill-fated war in the lead-up to the invasion, reporters have repeatedly let the Republican presidential candidate tell a revisionist version of his past stance without pushing back on the claim.

That sequence repeated itself on Wednesday night during NBC’s televised town hall, the first event featuring the two presidential candidates in back-to-back question-and-answer sessions. When it was Trump’s turn, NBC’s Matt Lauer asked the Republican candidate what about his past experiences has prepared him to be the country’s commander in chief.

Matt Lauer Lets Donald Trump Get Away With Iraq War Lie | Huffington Post

Huffington is a left wing propaganda rag. If you use it as a news link you admit to bias and political bigotry and forfeit credibility.
Trump's opinion on Iraq is only that. Hillary's vote and subsequent removal of troops is official and contributed to American deaths and wasted sacrifice. Questions about that are the only Iraq question relevant in this race.

 

[BULLDOG]

Last night Trump did one thing, and one thing only. He proved himself to be unprepared to be President of the United States. He turned every question into an assault on the performance of President Obama and Sect. Clinton, and offered zero substance on the issues other than the usual bravado of a narcissist. "Believe me" is unbelievable; his solutions are the words of of a snake oil salesman, nothing but nostrum .

huh? he answered every question he was asked. Hitlery gave a speech on her topics while doubling down on her poor judgement about Iraq in front of military people. Basically telling them, sorry I fked up and cost us thousands of lies, please vote for me so I can do better next time. Anyone disagree with that?

Sure he answered, but his answers didn't make sense.

so you didn't get the veterans affairs answer about seeing a doctor? you don't understand that he wants them to get checked by a private doctor if they can't get into a veterans hospital instead of getting sicker or dying. You don't like that? You'd prefer the veterans die? Is that what you're saying? That doesn't make sense to you?

BTW, he also directed them to his web page to get all the details. so that confused you as well?

So you think Veterans will be able to get an immediate appointment anywhere they chose? There are scheduling delays at every medical facility in the country. Yes, those delays need to be drastically reduced at the VA, but he doesn't have a workable plan to help our veterans receive the healthcare they deserve.

 

[Valerie]

Majority of Americans supported the war in Iraq because they were gullible in believing Iraq WMDs. I think holding that against any candidate is pointless as it was a widely supported.

yep, don't tell the delusional die-hard peacenik bernie bots, though...

(those kids know EVERYTHING!)

H.J.Res. 114 (107th): Authorization for Use of Military Force Against ... -- Senate Vote #237 -- Oct 11, 2002

"this is a very hard vote. this is probably the most difficult decision i've ever had to make..."

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Majority of Americans supported the war in Iraq because they were gullible in believing Iraq WMDs. I think holding that against any candidate is pointless as it was a widely supported.

yep, don't tell the delusional die-hard peacenik bernie bots, though...

(those kids know EVERYTHING!)

H.J.Res. 114 (107th): Authorization for Use of Military Force Against ... -- Senate Vote #237 -- Oct 11, 2002

"this is a very hard vote. this is probably the most difficult decision i've ever had to make..."

And she made that vote and then removed troops wasting that sacrifice.
She's a psychopath.

 

[Valerie]

Like many simplistic and "sound bite" arguments of the modern era, the argument that Hillary Clinton supported the war George W. Bush prosecuted in Iraq is nonsense. This falsehood can be broken down into five sub-myths.

Myth #1: The 2002 Congressional Resolution authorizing the use of military force against Iraq, on which Hillary Clinton and a large majority of U.S. Senators voted yes, gave George W. Bush "carte blanche" to pursue war against Saddam Hussein.

False! In fact exactly the opposite is true: While that Resolution did indeed authorize President Bush, under strict requirements of the 1973 War Powers Act, to use force, Section 3(b) of the Act also required that sanctions or diplomacy be fully employed before force was used, i.e. force was to be used only as "necessary and appropriate in order to defend the national security of the United States against the continuing threat posed by Iraq," and to do so only upon the President certifying to Congress that "diplomatic or other peaceful means" would be insufficient to defang Saddam.

Despite those legal conditions, the following year we were at war--and millions of us were astonished that the Bush Administration, running roughshod over Congress's requirements, hadn't given more time for U.N. inspectors to complete their job of searching for weapons of mass destruction.

Myth #2: By voting for the 2002 Congressional Resolution which authorized (but was also designed to limit) George Bush's power to wage war in Iraq, Hillary Clinton cannot be considered a "progressive" Democrat.

False! On October 11, 2002, Clinton joined a strong majority of Democrats, including liberal and left-center Democrats like Tom Harkin, John Kerry, and Joe Biden, in voting in favor of the Resolution authorizing the use of military force against Iraq. Later on, Clinton came to deeply regret giving President Bush the benefit of the doubt on the Resolution, and she has plainly admitted her mistake. Yet it is a "mistake" which many other senators of conscience made with her; if Clinton bears any blame for the resulting war, it is because she placed too much reliance on legislation that was actually designed to check a president's war-making ability but instead inadvertently gave that president cover to run roughshod over the interests of both Congress and the public at large.

Myth #3: At the time of her vote, Clinton was very supportive of going to war in order to remove Saddam Hussein from power.

False! While Clinton quickly turned against the war, another piece of "lost history" is the deep concern she expressed at the very time of her vote in the fall of 2002. Given the Resolution's several prerequisites to waging war, Clinton's vote was for a Resolution that was also supposed to restrain the President's ability to wage war, and her 2002 floor speech leading up to consideration of the Resolution made this clear:

My vote is not a vote for any new doctrine of preemption or for unilateralism or for the arrogance of American power or purpose, all of which carry grave dangers for our Nation, the rule of international law, and the peace and security of people throughout the world.

These words presaged the doctrine of "smart power" Clinton later espoused as Secretary of State. Her vision is neither interventionist on the one hand nor hesitant and supine on the other, but rather something in between: a belief that the United States is the indispensable leader--in a troubled world where such leadership matters--but a belief still grounded in reality, the limits of American power and, perhaps most significantly, the importance of collaboration with like-minded actors who can be found in every corner of the globe. Meanwhile, as Clinton has said many times, then as now, armed intervention is only to be used as a last resort.

Myth #4: At the time of the 2002 vote, the "architecture" of George Bush's Presidency was well understood, including a philosophy and history of carrying out pre-emptive wars.

False! In 2002, Clinton palpably feared a precipitous rush to war, but was willing to trust a leader who at the time was only in the second year of his presidency, having just suffered the most calamitous attack on the homeland since Pearl Harbor--and, notably, whose only international venture up until then was a widely applauded campaign to overthrow the Taliban in Al Qaida's sanctuary of Afghanistan. While it was already well known that Bush had neocon advisers like Cheney and Paul Wolfowitz, the true extent of their influence had not yet been manifested. (Colin Powell was also an important adviser and George W. was, after all, George H.W. Bush's son.)

Myth #5. Hillary Clinton's vote belies support for an "Imperial Presidency" that brooks no dissent, and disrespects Congress and other partners, foreign or domestic.

False! To the contrary, one of the reasons Hillary Clinton is so well qualified to be president is because she deeply respects the rule of law and, in particular, appropriate Congressional prerogatives and the Constitutional principle of checks and balances. (Indeed, this is precisely why she voted the way she did on the 2002 Iraq Resolution.) In this vein, she is also uniquely capable of reaching across the aisle to forge common-sense solutions, a "progressive who delivers results," as she says.

One big truth: Hillary Clinton possesses another, singular, quality: she has the capacity to learn from the hard lessons that our Iraq adventure taught us, including from the misplaced trust she and others conferred on an Administration that brought so much grief to this country. She has said as much in her memoir, Hard Choices:

As much as I might have wanted to, I could never change my vote on Iraq. But I could try to help us learn the right lessons from that war and apply them to Afghanistan and other challenges where we had fundamental security interests. I was determined to do exactly that when facing future hard choices, with more experience, wisdom, skepticism, and humility.

It is clear that Hillary Clinton is a candidate for president who has learned from the lessons of history, and is capable of applying them to the future; in fact this quality is a critical ingredient of great leadership.


5 Myths (And One Big Truth) About Hillary's 2002 Iraq War Vote | Huffington Post

 

[Valerie]

full speech, parts one and two...

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Hillary voted to go to war based on her expertise as first lady. She knew all about the threat Saddam posed. It's in her own words. She even admitted it was a mistake.
The real mistake was denying a troop surge and then removing troops and wasting sacrifice while allowing a greater threat to foment.
Nice try at biased history revision. You're as corrupt as she.

 

[Valerie]

Nice try at biased history revision. You're as corrupt as she.

posting her actual words is "revising" her words in the bizarro mind of haters like you.

you're as full of shit as trump is... if that's even possible!

see you in 60 days, loser.

 

[jc456]

it can't be anything else. you said Trump said it and that isn't true. So you keep repeating it makes you a liar.

Trump said he supported the war. Now he says he never did. Which is the truth? Now call names child because thats all you got

well he never said he supported the war. That's where your vehicle leaves the road. Never. The actual interview with Stern is available. It was played on the radio here in Chicago this morning. Never said. Unless you have something other than that that can back that statement, then you are lying as I already pointed out.

Well shit, who is this guy that is doing a great Trump impression then?

yep that one, what were his words? Can you write them up here so I make sure you heard it correctly?

HS: Are you for invading Iraq?
DT: Yeah, I guess so.


So tell me that was a no. Go ahead

so tell me that's him agreeing.

 

[ClosedCaption]

Trump said he supported the war. Now he says he never did. Which is the truth? Now call names child because thats all you got

well he never said he supported the war. That's where your vehicle leaves the road. Never. The actual interview with Stern is available. It was played on the radio here in Chicago this morning. Never said. Unless you have something other than that that can back that statement, then you are lying as I already pointed out.

Well shit, who is this guy that is doing a great Trump impression then?

yep that one, what were his words? Can you write them up here so I make sure you heard it correctly?

HS: Are you for invading Iraq?
DT: Yeah, I guess so.


So tell me that was a no. Go ahead

so tell me that's him agreeing.

Well lets look up the word doofus

yeah
ye(ə)/
exclamation & noun

1. nonstandard spelling of yes, representing informal pronunciation.

 

[defcon4]

Since there were two Iraq wars, which one are you referring to?

Are you referring to the Persian Gulf War as an Iraq War?

Are serious? Who the Gulf War was fought with? The Saudis? Your spinning efforts are quite lame.

 

[playtime]

Share The Facts
Donald Trump
GOP presidential nominee

"I was totally against the war in Iraq."
during the Commander-in-Chief Forum – Wednesday, September 7, 2016

JUST BECAUSE he repeats it DOESN'T MAKE IT TRUE. And saying it in 2016 doesn't count...

CHECK OUT THIS VIDEO......AT 1:42 TRUMP ADMITS HE WAS IN FAVOR OF THE INVASION OF IRAQ.

exactly. politifact rated him him saying that he was against the war --as false. as for howard stern... i was a big fan of his b4 he left terrestrial radio & went over to sirius & i remember all the times trump went on his show, including that particular one. he's one nasty asshole & he definitely has a problem with the way he views women.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Nice try at biased history revision. You're as corrupt as she.

posting her actual words is "revising" her words in the bizarro mind of haters like you.

you're as full of shit as trump is... if that's even possible!

see you in 60 days, loser.

The corrupt, criminal, psychopathic wench voted to go to war -- in her own words. How is it you construe that to mean anything else?

 

[SYTFE]

Audio of Crooked Donald saying he supported the Iraq war.

 

[playtime]

so you admit the lie then. Thanks,

"So you..."

Again, nope

it can't be anything else. you said Trump said it and that isn't true. So you keep repeating it makes you a liar.

Trump said he supported the war. Now he says he never did. Which is the truth? Now call names child because thats all you got

well he never said he supported the war. That's where your vehicle leaves the road. Never. The actual interview with Stern is available. It was played on the radio here in Chicago this morning. Never said. Unless you have something other than that that can back that statement, then you are lying as I already pointed out.

Well shit, who is this guy that is doing a great Trump impression then?

lol.. it MUST be john miller or errrr.... barron

Donald Trump on recording: Not me
By Tal Kopan and Jeremy Diamond, CNN

Updated 4:06 PM ET, Sat May 14, 2016

Washington (CNN)Donald Trump said Friday that a newly resurfaced recording of a man who sounds like Trump posing as his spokesman isn't him — even though he has admitted in the past to posing as his own publicist under a pseudonym.

"It was not me on the phone," Trump told NBC's "Today" show when the recording was played for him during a live interview.

"And it doesn't sound like me on the phone, I'll tell you that, and it was not me on the phone."

NBC was asking Trump about a Washington Post report published earlier Friday that claims Trump routinely made calls to reporters in the 1970s, '80s and '90s posing as a publicist named John Miller or John Barron, advocating for himself and answering questions about his personal life and business dealings.
The man in the 14-minute recording sounds much like Trump, and the Post pointed to Trump's long appreciation of the name Barron, including the name of his youngest son.
The Post also cited 1990 court case testimony in which Trump testified, "I believe on occasion I used that name" when asked about Barron. CNN has obtained a copy of Trump's testimony during that case.
[...]

Donald Trump on recording: Not me - CNNPolitics.com