Trump on immigration, 14th amendment: the "Votemaster" strikes again!

[Statistikhengst]

This guy has a excellent elections site and often posts some very sage commentary, like this one:

ElectoralVote

While Mitt Romney merely asked undocumented immigrants to self deport, Donald Trump is going a step further and would deport all 11 or 12 million of them, as described in a

position paper he released yesterday. In a sense, it doesn't matter what his position on immigration is, since he has no chance at becoming President, but in another sense this announcement is a giant problem for the other candidates. They are all going to be asked if they agree with it. To win the primary, they have to agree with it, but to win the general election they have to reject it. You can count on Democratic trackers recording their words in the coming week and saving the footage to play back during the general election, especially in swing states with large populations of Latino citizens, such as Nevada, Colorado, and Virginia. The other candidates would greatly prefer educating the populace about precisely what an email server is and not talk about immigration at all. But Trump is forcing the issue. For the Democrats, this issue is manna from heaven (well, from New York City, actually). All of them support a pathway to citizenship for undocumented immigrants, a position that plays a lot better with Latino citizens than deportation...


...Another contentious point in Trump's immigration platform is his desire to end birthright citizenship. He may or may not be aware that the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution begins: "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States ..." This means that ending birthright citizenship would require repealing part of the Fourteenth Amendment. That process requires the approval of 2/3 majorities of each chamber of Congress and then 3/4 of the states. The President plays no role in the process, so all he could do as President would be to badger Congress and the states to get to work on it.

And that's it in a big nutshell.

Trump just handed the Democrats a very nice gift.

And we know what at least 2 questions in the coming debates are going to be...

BTW, has anyone noticed how often Trump promises things that he cannot even deliver? Now, THAT'S ego.

 

[bedowin62]

what kind of idiot thinks the Left is on the right side of the ILLEGAL immigration issue?

 

[Steve_McGarrett]

This guy has a excellent elections site and often posts some very sage commentary, like this one:

ElectoralVote

While Mitt Romney merely asked undocumented immigrants to self deport, Donald Trump is going a step further and would deport all 11 or 12 million of them, as described in a

position paper he released yesterday. In a sense, it doesn't matter what his position on immigration is, since he has no chance at becoming President, but in another sense this announcement is a giant problem for the other candidates. They are all going to be asked if they agree with it. To win the primary, they have to agree with it, but to win the general election they have to reject it. You can count on Democratic trackers recording their words in the coming week and saving the footage to play back during the general election, especially in swing states with large populations of Latino citizens, such as Nevada, Colorado, and Virginia. The other candidates would greatly prefer educating the populace about precisely what an email server is and not talk about immigration at all. But Trump is forcing the issue. For the Democrats, this issue is manna from heaven (well, from New York City, actually). All of them support a pathway to citizenship for undocumented immigrants, a position that plays a lot better with Latino citizens than deportation...


...Another contentious point in Trump's immigration platform is his desire to end birthright citizenship. He may or may not be aware that the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution begins: "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States ..." This means that ending birthright citizenship would require repealing part of the Fourteenth Amendment. That process requires the approval of 2/3 majorities of each chamber of Congress and then 3/4 of the states. The President plays no role in the process, so all he could do as President would be to badger Congress and the states to get to work on it.

And that's it in a big nutshell.

Trump just handed the Democrats a very nice gift.

And we know what at least 2 questions in the coming debates are going to be...

BTW, has anyone noticed how often Trump promises things that he cannot even deliver? Now, THAT'S ego.

The American citizens are tired of illegals invading our country. They need to go and Trump can get it done. It's time to return America back to the people the founders created it for, White peoople of European heritage.

 

[Obiwan]

Actually, the states can vote to overturn an ammendment designed to give freed slaves citizenship, since it's no longer applicable.

And Hispanics want border security and enforcement too.

Poll Hispanics Want Border Security Interior Enforcement Before Amnesty - Breitbart

Really, you should get off Moron.org and get out more...

 

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Most reasonable people realize just how incredibly fascist we would have to become to expel all the illegal immigrants and keep them out. Conservatives on the other hand don't care if a million American doors get kicked in by the government.

 

[Seawytch]

what kind of idiot thinks the Left is on the right side of the ILLEGAL immigration issue?

All the polls certainly show that the American people tend to agree with Democrats policies on illegal immigration more than they like the Republican's "send 'em all home" ideas.

 

[bedowin62]

Most reasonable people realize just how incredibly fascist we would have to become to expel all the illegal immigrants and keep them out. Conservatives on the other hand don't care if a million American doors get kicked in by the government.

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left-wing idiots just love that F-word. too bad the Left are closer to fascists than the Right will ever be

 

[bedowin62]

you got your poll, i got mine:

Poll Shows Democrats Lose Swing Voters Over Amnesty ...
dailycaller.com/.../poll-shows-democrats-lose-swing-vot...

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Jan 27, 2015 - It is also a problem for Senate Democrats, who need to pick up five ... aid to illegal immigrants is concentrated among male Democrats, liberals

 

[bedowin62]

thats' the problem with the Left; they believe in polls. at the end of the day it offends the sense of fairness in millions of Americans to give a freen light to milions on account of they already having SNUCK IN. they need to go to the BACK OF THE LINE

 

[bedowin62]

Poll: Americans Want More Aggressive Deportation of Illegal ...
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Apr 7, 2015 - The debate about President Obama's executive action on illegal immigration is ongoing and the issue is sure to be a hot topic on t.08/16/2015

 

[Seawytch]

you got your poll, i got mine:

Poll Shows Democrats Lose Swing Voters Over Amnesty ...
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Jan 27, 2015 - It is also a problem for Senate Democrats, who need to pick up five ... aid to illegal immigrants is concentrated among male Democrats, liberals

A poll calling what the President did "amnesty" isn't a credible poll...but good on you for finally posting something. It's pure crap, but it's a start.

 

[bedowin62]

you got your poll, i got mine:

Poll Shows Democrats Lose Swing Voters Over Amnesty ...
dailycaller.com/.../poll-shows-democrats-lose-swing-vot...

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Jan 27, 2015 - It is also a problem for Senate Democrats, who need to pick up five ... aid to illegal immigrants is concentrated among male Democrats, liberals

A poll calling what the President did "amnesty" isn't a credible poll...but good on you for finally posting something. It's pure crap, but it's a start.

no what isnt credible is a left-wing idiot lying to herself; what obama is doing is amnesty

 

[bedowin62]

you're the same idiots that call record welfare and food stamps "forward progres". so a charge of not being credible from left-wing losers who lie to themselves on a regular basis means exactly what again?

obama's plan is amnesty

 

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Most reasonable people realize just how incredibly fascist we would have to become to expel all the illegal immigrants and keep them out. Conservatives on the other hand don't care if a million American doors get kicked in by the government.

YAWN
left-wing idiots just love that F-word. too bad the Left are closer to fascists than the Right will ever be

Bullshit, you people who supposedly hate the government would demand they kick in doors, drag people out into the night and deport them without due process by the millions, never mind all the legal Americans who would get their rights trampled in the process. No, this is exactly how fascism gets a foothold by fighting the "enemy within".

 

[bedowin62]

Most reasonable people realize just how incredibly fascist we would have to become to expel all the illegal immigrants and keep them out. Conservatives on the other hand don't care if a million American doors get kicked in by the government.

YAWN
left-wing idiots just love that F-word. too bad the Left are closer to fascists than the Right will ever be

Bullshit, you people who supposedly hate the government would demand they kick in doors, drag people out into the night and deport them without due process by the millions, never mind all the legal Americans who would get their rights trampled in the process. No, this is exactly how fascism gets a foothold by fighting the "enemy within".

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and speaking of no credibility; an idiot from the failed Occupy movement making idiot charges of the plans of Republicans that he cant back up with anything resembling a fact or evidence means what again?

 

[Obiwan]

what kind of idiot thinks the Left is on the right side of the ILLEGAL immigration issue?

All the polls certainly show that the American people tend to agree with Democrats policies on illegal immigration more than they like the Republican's "send 'em all home" ideas.

So since the poll shows overwhelming support for enforcement of labor laws, how do you propose we support millions of illegals?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Finally! Someone fighting back against the Democrat Jihad on America!!

 

[bedowin62]

what kind of idiot thinks deporting people who arent supposed to be here in the first place involves more "government" than processing them all to be citizens??

 

[bedowin62]

leftard; do you have something, ANYTHING, any sort of evidence the Right want so drag "out into the night" millions of illegals and deport them "without due process"??

or is it you losers are just so desperate to PANDER you will say anything?

 

[bedowin62]

How many innocent Americans have to die for Democrat Party votes??