Trump was for it before he was against it.

[Rambunctious]

Yeah, you are. You're literally denying Trump made a deal to take all the troops out of Afghanistan despite him say repeatedly that's what he wanted to do.

Trump drew up the framework to pull out but didn't because he was warned this would happen...just like I'm sure Joe was warned this would happen...gee Joe is dumber than Trump and you voted for Joe....

 

[frigidweirdo]

Everyone is all for and supports getting out of Afgan....the difference is, to most people with common sense, is getting out with a peace deal with the Taliban, so that the people we have been helping and fighting for were able to maintain their freedom from them.

Joe Xiden make a quick, knee jerk move, with no plan, only thinking about what it might look like political on 9/11.

He put politics ahead of the people of Afgan and the threat that the Taliban poses to the world.

Your deflection is clearly noted.

The problem here is that "He put politics ahead of the people of....." is US foreign policy.

Trying to criticize Biden for doing what every US president has done since 9/11 (at the very least) is hypocritical.

Libya. Obama took part in a UK/French led bombing of the country. They deposed Gadaffi and left Libya is a civil war and a total mess. Trump didn't go and try and sort it out.

Syria. The same.

Iraq. The US went into Iraq, didn't give a damn about the Iraqis, claimed to be liberating the Iraqis, but when it got there, found that getting rid of jobs, police and military especially, was a good way of pissing people off. The US never cared about the Iraqi people, it was all about US interests.

Same with Afghanistan.

In fact the US has the Powell Doctrine.

Powell Doctrine - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

"
The Powell Doctrine states that a list of questions all have to be answered affirmatively before military action is taken by the United States:

1. Is a vital national security interest threatened?
2. Do we have a clear attainable objective?
3. Have the risks and costs been fully and frankly analyzed?
4. Have all other non-violent policy means been fully exhausted?
5. Is there a plausible exit strategy to avoid endless entanglement?
6. Have the consequences of our action been fully considered?
7. Is the action supported by the American people?
8. Do we have genuine broad international support?"
   

Nothing suggests to me that the US isn't using this doctrine still. It's all about the US, nothing is about other people. The US only "cares" about other people when it's convenient. Like how the US literally vilified Muslims to destroy OPEC's dominance, to take down the Muslim OPEC members which didn't like the US, Iran, Iraq and Libya.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Biden was for the conflict in Afghanistan before he sat on Barry Hussein's lap for 8 years and forgot where he was.

And Trump was for pulling out, until the US pulled out.

This is politicians. The US is such a big country, that to be popular, you have to literally do 180 degree turns every five minutes.

 

[Faun]

Trump drew up the framework to pull out but didn't because he was warned this would happen...just like I'm sure Joe was warned this would happen...gee Joe is dumber than Trump and you voted for Joe....

You can't lie your way out of this, ya flamin' retard.

The deal was a phased reduction, culminating with our complete withdrawal by May of this year.

US and Taliban sign deal aimed at ending war in Afghanistan

The United States and the Taliban have signed a historic peace agreement aimed at ending the 18-year war in Afghanistan, America's longest.

apnews.com

Under the agreement, the U.S. would draw its forces down to 8,600 from 13,000 in the next three to four months, with the remaining U.S. forces withdrawing in 14 months.​

 

[Whodatsaywhodat.]

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Dumb kunt.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

And IMHO, Uncle Joe blew It against the advice of literally every military commander and adviser by not leaving 3 or 4 thousand as a residual force.

This is where we disagree.

Leaving three- or four-thousand US troops in Afghanistan is not ‘withdrawing.’

US forces would continue to be targets for attack, propping up a corrupt Afghan government, an incompetent Afghan army, and an Afghan people unwilling or incapable of becoming self-sufficient.

 

[DrLove]

This is where we disagree.

Leaving three- or four-thousand US troops in Afghanistan is not ‘withdrawing.’

US forces would continue to be targets for attack, propping up a corrupt Afghan government, an incompetent Afghan army, and an Afghan people unwilling or incapable of becoming self-sufficient.

How many lives did we lose in Afghan in past year?

 

[jknowgood]

No, Joe Biden delayed the May 1st date that Trump set for withdrawal of troops.

Yes and now the Taliban are going around executing anyone that helped us. Thanks Biden.

 

[jknowgood]

LOL

Are you ever not a retard, retard?

So did you give Trump credit then?

 

[jknowgood]

Ehh - NO he didn't

He left 2500 troops to make sure, Biden style mess up wouldn't happen.

 

[Faun]

So did you give Trump credit then?

I didn't know about it then.

 

[DrLove]

He left 2500 troops to make sure, Biden style mess up wouldn't happen.

We’ve been through this. You lost

 

[Winco]

Just like Obama, he blamed Bush

That's hysterical.
Unless you acknowledge that POS trump spent 5 years blaming others.

 

[jknowgood]

We’ve been through this. You lost

Biden is sending 6000 more because of his screw up.

 

[Roudy]

Biden is sending 6000 more because of his screw up.

That’s what a Democrat run draw down looks like. Send thousands more troops in, just to keep your people safe and be able to evacuate, while abandoning hundreds of thousands of Afghan allies that worked with our troops and the entire Afghan nation and especially their women who for the first time were being treated as human beings and not cattle. This is what the Democrats must mean by gender equality and women’s rights.

 

[Faun]

That’s what a Democrat run draw down looks like. Send thousands more troops in, just to keep your people safe and be able to evacuate, while abandoning hundreds of thousands of Afghan allies that worked with our troops and the entire Afghan nation and especially their women who for the first time were being treated as human beings and not cattle. This is what the Democrats must mean by gender equality and women’s rights.

We armed and trained the Afghani's to fight for themselves. We are not responsible if they choose to flee rather than fight after 20 years of training.

 

[Roudy]

We armed and trained the Afghani's to fight for themselves. We are not responsible if they choose to flee rather than fight after 20 years of training.

They fought and died far more than we did. Dufus Biden pulled the rug from underneath their feet and handed the country over to a bunch of Islamic thugs, and in the process humiliated us in front of our allies and our enemies. There are now tens of thousands of Americans and our allies stranded who cannot get themselves to the airport. He either is an incompetent moron that's in over his head, that didn't know this would happen or, he did and just didn't care. Or both. Either way he should resign.

The Chinese just observed what just happened and are now planning the invasion of Taiwan and Hong Kong, and the Russians are doing the same with regards to Ukraine.

Due to a weak, inept, senile, incompetent corrupt criminal as president we are now much closer to a nuclear war than ever before in history.

 

[Colin norris]

Everyone is all for and supports getting out of Afgan....the difference is, to most people with common sense, is getting out with a peace deal with the Taliban, so that the people we have been helping and fighting for were able to maintain their freedom from them.

Joe Xiden make a quick, knee jerk move, with no plan, only thinking about what it might look like political on 9/11.

He put politics ahead of the people of Afgan and the threat that the Taliban poses to the world.

Your deflection is clearly noted.

We never went there to give them freedom. It was to stop terrorist having a home base. The freedom came with the comfort of the US being there.

He put the lives of another 7000 troops dead as the first priority them why another 20 years to achieve nothing again.
The locals had 20 years to get out. They knew we wouldn't stay there forever but they stayed with their stupid religious beliefs. Good luck to them. The USA show not turn that shithole into a nanny state. Get out of the place and let them kill themselves. No one cared when successive presidents bombed the snot out of them before.

What's this arrogant pompous crap where you "duly note" someone's comment? Who Do you think you are?

 

[Markle]

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Cute try. I doubt that anyone is opposed to getting out of Afghanistan.

The problem is that President Harris/Biden has humiliated our country before the entire world. Neither he nor the VP is talking to anyone, Biden has not even talked to our closest allies about the cluster f*** he has created.

We have thousands of Americans stranded in Afghanistan. Really makes the Jimmy Carter hostage crises look like child play.

 

[Markle]

There's plenty of blame to go around this time. Parties don't lose wars, nations do. We're going to be feeling this for a while.

True, it was a bipartisan war.

The pullout is all Harris/Biden and they seem to have gone into hiding. Not that I blame them.

It might have gone worse had Hunter Biden planned the pullout as he did with his hooker girlfriend.