Trump's approval plunges to 37%

[Sun Devil 92]

Trump's approval plunges to 37%

Good. Hopefully it will go even lower and stay there.

This level is very close to an absolute guarantee that the GOP loses the House in 2018.

BTW, 37% is about 7 points under the percent of votes he got in November. That is a clear indication that his supporters are turning against him.

And yet, miraculously, he maintains a 99.9% approval rating among the RW'ers on USMB. That if anything should tell you how far from normal America these people are.

Boy you are delusional!

Midterm Election years usually benefit the GOP except in the 2006 election.

So keep dreaming.

You might get the Senate but you will not obtain the House!

No, midterm elections benefit the party out of power, stupid.

They won't get the senate. They lost that chance.

If anything, it looks like the GOP will strengthen the senate come 2018.

 

[GaryDog]

Trump's approval plunges to 37%

Good. Hopefully it will go even lower and stay there.

This level is very close to an absolute guarantee that the GOP loses the House in 2018.

BTW, 37% is about 7 points under the percent of votes he got in November. That is a clear indication that his supporters are turning against him.

And yet, miraculously, he maintains a 99.9% approval rating among the RW'ers on USMB. That if anything should tell you how far from normal America these people are.

Boy you are delusional!

Midterm Election years usually benefit the GOP except in the 2006 election.

So keep dreaming.

You might get the Senate but you will not obtain the House!

No, midterm elections benefit the party out of power, stupid.

They won't get the senate. They lost that chance.

If anything, it looks like the GOP will strengthen the senate come 2018.

The GOP has a 1-seat edge in the senate. How the hell can you be confident the Dems won't gain it back?

 

[bendog]

Good. Hopefully it will go even lower and stay there.

This level is very close to an absolute guarantee that the GOP loses the House in 2018.

BTW, 37% is about 7 points under the percent of votes he got in November. That is a clear indication that his supporters are turning against him.

And yet, miraculously, he maintains a 99.9% approval rating among the RW'ers on USMB. That if anything should tell you how far from normal America these people are.

Boy you are delusional!

Midterm Election years usually benefit the GOP except in the 2006 election.

So keep dreaming.

You might get the Senate but you will not obtain the House!

No, midterm elections benefit the party out of power, stupid.

They won't get the senate. They lost that chance.

If anything, it looks like the GOP will strengthen the senate come 2018.

The GOP has a 1-seat edge in the senate. How the hell can you be confident the Dems won't gain it back?

The dems have rougly 3x as many senators up for relection

 

[JakeStarkey]

The polls said Clinton would win the popular vote, and that's all the polls said. Did she?

A lot of the State polls were way off as well....and those are the ones that mattered, Most national polls had her up 3-5%, and she won the national vote by around 2%.

And all these numbers are combinations of multiple polls taken in multiple places, with much higher sample counts, and a simple binary answer (who to vote for)

They don't include a "how you feel" question involving approval or how you think he's doing his job.

She won the popular vote by 2.1 percentage points and on average, the polls predicted she would win it by 3.2 percentage points. That's pretty damn close.Fro

RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - General Election: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein

They also over-counted the vote % for each of them by about 2% each, for another 4% of "meh"

LOL

They predicted Hillary would win by 3.2 points and she won by 2.1 points. There is no "another 4%."

From one of your fellow travelers

RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - General Election: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein

Polling Data
Poll Date Sample MoE Clinton (D) Trump (R) Johnson (L) Stein (G) Spread
Final Results -- -- -- 48.2 46.1 3.3 1.1 Clinton +2.1
RCP Average 11/2 - 11/7 -- 45.5 42.2 4.7 1.9 Clinton +3.3

My mistake was using over-counted instead of under-counted. Clinton got 3% more than the polls figured she would, Trump 4%, so you have to account for their error with over-estimating Johnson/Stein support, and of course the undecideds right before the election (of which i was one of). Then you have to determine of the undecideds, how many voted and how many decided to just stay home.

All this leads to me continuing my disdain for polling in general unless it's like a 70-30 and above split.

Foolish, foolish Marty. You have not thought this through. That was an election with several candidates.

Trump is only running against himself and he is losing.

 

[JakeStarkey]

This level is very close to an absolute guarantee that the GOP loses the House in 2018.

BTW, 37% is about 7 points under the percent of votes he got in November. That is a clear indication that his supporters are turning against him.

And yet, miraculously, he maintains a 99.9% approval rating among the RW'ers on USMB. That if anything should tell you how far from normal America these people are.

Boy you are delusional!

Midterm Election years usually benefit the GOP except in the 2006 election.

So keep dreaming.

You might get the Senate but you will not obtain the House!

No, midterm elections benefit the party out of power, stupid.

They won't get the senate. They lost that chance.

If anything, it looks like the GOP will strengthen the senate come 2018.

The GOP has a 1-seat edge in the senate. How the hell can you be confident the Dems won't gain it back?

The dems have rougly 3x as many senators up for relection

Yeah, 2018 is not looking like a good year for Dem candidates, but . . . they have never had such an ass in the WH since Nixon to make things so damn difficult for the Pubs.

 

[martybegan]

A lot of the State polls were way off as well....and those are the ones that mattered, Most national polls had her up 3-5%, and she won the national vote by around 2%.

And all these numbers are combinations of multiple polls taken in multiple places, with much higher sample counts, and a simple binary answer (who to vote for)

They don't include a "how you feel" question involving approval or how you think he's doing his job.

She won the popular vote by 2.1 percentage points and on average, the polls predicted she would win it by 3.2 percentage points. That's pretty damn close.Fro

RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - General Election: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein

They also over-counted the vote % for each of them by about 2% each, for another 4% of "meh"

LOL

They predicted Hillary would win by 3.2 points and she won by 2.1 points. There is no "another 4%."

From one of your fellow travelers

RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - General Election: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein

Polling Data
Poll Date Sample MoE Clinton (D) Trump (R) Johnson (L) Stein (G) Spread
Final Results -- -- -- 48.2 46.1 3.3 1.1 Clinton +2.1
RCP Average 11/2 - 11/7 -- 45.5 42.2 4.7 1.9 Clinton +3.3

My mistake was using over-counted instead of under-counted. Clinton got 3% more than the polls figured she would, Trump 4%, so you have to account for their error with over-estimating Johnson/Stein support, and of course the undecideds right before the election (of which i was one of). Then you have to determine of the undecideds, how many voted and how many decided to just stay home.

All this leads to me continuing my disdain for polling in general unless it's like a 70-30 and above split.

Foolish, foolish Marty. You have not thought this through. That was an election with several candidates.

Trump is only running against himself and he is losing.

The election was also compared to a larger amalgam of polls, over time, with a sample size in the cumulative tens of thousands.

This one is 1500 people and a snap-shot.

Meh.

 

[JakeStarkey]

She won the popular vote by 2.1 percentage points and on average, the polls predicted she would win it by 3.2 percentage points. That's pretty damn close.Fro

RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - General Election: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein

They also over-counted the vote % for each of them by about 2% each, for another 4% of "meh"

LOL

They predicted Hillary would win by 3.2 points and she won by 2.1 points. There is no "another 4%."

From one of your fellow travelers

RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - General Election: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein

Polling Data
Poll Date Sample MoE Clinton (D) Trump (R) Johnson (L) Stein (G) Spread
Final Results -- -- -- 48.2 46.1 3.3 1.1 Clinton +2.1
RCP Average 11/2 - 11/7 -- 45.5 42.2 4.7 1.9 Clinton +3.3

My mistake was using over-counted instead of under-counted. Clinton got 3% more than the polls figured she would, Trump 4%, so you have to account for their error with over-estimating Johnson/Stein support, and of course the undecideds right before the election (of which i was one of). Then you have to determine of the undecideds, how many voted and how many decided to just stay home.

All this leads to me continuing my disdain for polling in general unless it's like a 70-30 and above split.

Foolish, foolish Marty. You have not thought this through. That was an election with several candidates.

Trump is only running against himself and he is losing.

The election was also compared to a larger amalgam of polls, over time, with a sample size in the cumulative tens of thousands. This one is 1500 people and a snap-shot. Meh.

None of which rebuts Trump is running against himself, very badly at that.


But I agree with you that when he goes below 30%, he is going to have a real fight to survive.

 

[martybegan]

They also over-counted the vote % for each of them by about 2% each, for another 4% of "meh"

LOL

They predicted Hillary would win by 3.2 points and she won by 2.1 points. There is no "another 4%."

From one of your fellow travelers

RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - General Election: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein

Polling Data
Poll Date Sample MoE Clinton (D) Trump (R) Johnson (L) Stein (G) Spread
Final Results -- -- -- 48.2 46.1 3.3 1.1 Clinton +2.1
RCP Average 11/2 - 11/7 -- 45.5 42.2 4.7 1.9 Clinton +3.3

My mistake was using over-counted instead of under-counted. Clinton got 3% more than the polls figured she would, Trump 4%, so you have to account for their error with over-estimating Johnson/Stein support, and of course the undecideds right before the election (of which i was one of). Then you have to determine of the undecideds, how many voted and how many decided to just stay home.

All this leads to me continuing my disdain for polling in general unless it's like a 70-30 and above split.

Foolish, foolish Marty. You have not thought this through. That was an election with several candidates.

Trump is only running against himself and he is losing.

The election was also compared to a larger amalgam of polls, over time, with a sample size in the cumulative tens of thousands. This one is 1500 people and a snap-shot. Meh.

None of which rebuts Trump is running against himself, very badly at that.


But I agree with you that when he goes below 30%, he is going to have a real fight to survive.

But then you have to add in the fact that some of them disapproving do so because he isn't doing enough to satisfy them, not the other way around.

 

[JimH52]

Almost none of us on USMB, NYc, are normal.

Comey today, potentially, can be the triggers the end of the beginning of Trump's presidency and the beginning of the end of it.

If the situation can become catastrophic, Pence and Ryan will move quickly to send Trump packing.

Doubt it.

Trump will be President until 2021 or Melania blows him one night and causes his ticker to stop beating...

She will have to fight off Ivanka...

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Trump's approval plunges to 37%

Good. Hopefully it will go even lower and stay there.

This level is very close to an absolute guarantee that the GOP loses the House in 2018.

BTW, 37% is about 7 points under the percent of votes he got in November. That is a clear indication that his supporters are turning against him.

And yet, miraculously, he maintains a 99.9% approval rating among the RW'ers on USMB. That if anything should tell you how far from normal America these people are.

Boy you are delusional!

Midterm Election years usually benefit the GOP except in the 2006 election.

So keep dreaming.

You might get the Senate but you will not obtain the House!

No, midterm elections benefit the party out of power, stupid.

Putin is going to make sure you fuckers are totally out of power after 2018. He wants to flip ALL 25 Democrat Senate seats and you can't do a fucking thing to stop him

 

[JakeStarkey]

Trump's approval plunges to 37%

Good. Hopefully it will go even lower and stay there.

This level is very close to an absolute guarantee that the GOP loses the House in 2018.

BTW, 37% is about 7 points under the percent of votes he got in November. That is a clear indication that his supporters are turning against him.

And yet, miraculously, he maintains a 99.9% approval rating among the RW'ers on USMB. That if anything should tell you how far from normal America these people are.

Boy you are delusional!

Midterm Election years usually benefit the GOP except in the 2006 election.

So keep dreaming.

You might get the Senate but you will not obtain the House!

No, midterm elections benefit the party out of power, stupid.

Putin is going to make sure you fuckers are totally out of power after 2018. He wants to flip ALL 25 Democrat Senate seats and you can't do a fucking thing to stop him

Such a foolish Tipsy!

 

[NYcarbineer]

The polls said Clinton would win the popular vote, and that's all the polls said. Did she?

A lot of the State polls were way off as well....and those are the ones that mattered, Most national polls had her up 3-5%, and she won the national vote by around 2%.

And all these numbers are combinations of multiple polls taken in multiple places, with much higher sample counts, and a simple binary answer (who to vote for)

They don't include a "how you feel" question involving approval or how you think he's doing his job.

She won the popular vote by 2.1 percentage points and on average, the polls predicted she would win it by 3.2 percentage points. That's pretty damn close.Fro

RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - General Election: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein

They also over-counted the vote % for each of them by about 2% each, for another 4% of "meh"

LOL

They predicted Hillary would win by 3.2 points and she won by 2.1 points. There is no "another 4%."

From one of your fellow travelers

RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - General Election: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein

Polling Data
Poll Date Sample MoE Clinton (D) Trump (R) Johnson (L) Stein (G) Spread
Final Results -- -- -- 48.2 46.1 3.3 1.1 Clinton +2.1
RCP Average 11/2 - 11/7 -- 45.5 42.2 4.7 1.9 Clinton +3.3

My mistake was using over-counted instead of under-counted. Clinton got 3% more than the polls figured she would, Trump 4%, so you have to account for their error with over-estimating Johnson/Stein support, and of course the undecideds right before the election (of which i was one of). Then you have to determine of the undecideds, how many voted and how many decided to just stay home.

All this leads to me continuing my disdain for polling in general unless it's like a 70-30 and above split.

The polling average called the winner of the popular vote to just over a percentage point.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Bill Clinton's Gallup approval rating in August 1994 was 39%.

Remember the 1994 election, anyone?

 

[yiostheoy]

...on Gallup.

Gallup Daily: Trump Job Approval

For comparison to our last GOP disaster of a president, it took GW Bush until March of 2006 to hit 37%.

This was also confirmed by CBS news at noontime.

 

[yiostheoy]

Now the question is "Why?"

Which is more to blame?

Trump-Care or Wire-Tap Gate?

 

[yiostheoy]

Bill Clinton's Gallup approval rating in August 1994 was 39%.

Remember the 1994 election, anyone?

What caused that decline? Hillary-Care?

 

[yiostheoy]

So far looks like healthcare is a hot potato that burns everybody who touches it.

 

[Uncensored2008]

...on Gallup.

Gallup Daily: Trump Job Approval

For comparison to our last GOP disaster of a president, it took GW Bush until March of 2006 to hit 37%.

Izzatrite, comrade brown shirt?

 

[yiostheoy]

I suspect that now that the voters for Trump realize that what they wanted with repeal and replace is going to hurt them and only help the rich, they are bent out of shape.

Since they still don't have new jobs yet and now their health care ins is going to go up thanks to Trump and Ryan, they are mad as hell and ready to vote for Hillary instead.

Or else maybe this will come down to Pence vs Kaine ?!

 

[Lakhota]

How low can he go? How crooked can he get?