Trump's approval plunges to 37%

[martybegan]

The reality is that Trump is President, unlike the "reality" of the polls shown before the election.

National polls, which is what all these polls that we are discussing are, have correctly showed him losing the national vote.

That reality didn't change just because he won the Electoral College, which nationals polls do not measure.

Most national polls showed him losing by 4-5% plus, when in reality he only lost it by 2%

But again, this is like arguing who had the most hits in a baseball game.

AVERAGE was within 1% error - which is AMAZINGLY good.

You got a link to back that up?

The polls you refer to were taken before Comey's November Surprise.

you are really going with that?

 

[martybegan]

The reality is that Trump is President, unlike the "reality" of the polls shown before the election.

National polls, which is what all these polls that we are discussing are, have correctly showed him losing the national vote.

That reality didn't change just because he won the Electoral College, which nationals polls do not measure.

Most national polls showed him losing by 4-5% plus, when in reality he only lost it by 2%

But again, this is like arguing who had the most hits in a baseball game.

AVERAGE was within 1% error - which is AMAZINGLY good.

You got a link to back that up?

RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - General Election: Trump vs. Clinton

You have to add in the 4% or so under count they did for 3rd party candidates to get the real picture. Adding that makes them look even more idiotic.

 

[Norman]

...on Gallup.

Gallup Daily: Trump Job Approval

For comparison to our last GOP disaster of a president, it took GW Bush until March of 2006 to hit 37%.

On a related note a If you are a liberal, Hillary also got 98.1% of the vote.

Who actually swallows this bullshit? Years and years of losing and losing more, and Americans can't take a few weeks of winning? False, no one is tired of winning yet, it will be great 8 years.

Dumbass %chance of win is not % of vote.

Indeed, the regressives can't even get the most simple things correct, always mixing those percentages. Perhaps that's why they haven't yet accepted that Donald Trump is the POTUS now.

 

[Nia88]

WRONG! Fake poll. Sad. Bad

 

[Siete]

regardless what polls report, fake or otherwise, Trump is in a downward spiral, and theres no denying that.

give him some time, he hasnt hit the bottom yet.

 

[Faun]

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The reality is that Trump is President, unlike the "reality" of the polls shown before the election.

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The polls said Clinton would win the popular vote, and that's all the polls said. Did she?

A lot of the State polls were way off as well....and those are the ones that mattered, Most national polls had her up 3-5%, and she won the national vote by around 2%.

And all these numbers are combinations of multiple polls taken in multiple places, with much higher sample counts, and a simple binary answer (who to vote for)

They don't include a "how you feel" question involving approval or how you think he's doing his job.

She won the popular vote by 2.1 percentage points and on average, the polls predicted she would win it by 3.2 percentage points. That's pretty damn close.

RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - General Election: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein

 

[martybegan]

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The reality is that Trump is President, unlike the "reality" of the polls shown before the election.

.

The polls said Clinton would win the popular vote, and that's all the polls said. Did she?

A lot of the State polls were way off as well....and those are the ones that mattered, Most national polls had her up 3-5%, and she won the national vote by around 2%.

And all these numbers are combinations of multiple polls taken in multiple places, with much higher sample counts, and a simple binary answer (who to vote for)

They don't include a "how you feel" question involving approval or how you think he's doing his job.

She won the popular vote by 2.1 percentage points and on average, the polls predicted she would win it by 3.2 percentage points. That's pretty damn close.

RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - General Election: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein

They also over-counted the vote % for each of them by about 2% each, for another 4% of "meh"

 

[martybegan]

regardless what polls report, fake or otherwise, Trump is in a downward spiral, and theres no denying that.

give him some time, he hasnt hit the bottom yet.

Nice to notice progressives still can't see out of their own little boxes.

 

[Faun]

[

The reality is that Trump is President, unlike the "reality" of the polls shown before the election.

.

The polls said Clinton would win the popular vote, and that's all the polls said. Did she?

A lot of the State polls were way off as well....and those are the ones that mattered, Most national polls had her up 3-5%, and she won the national vote by around 2%.

And all these numbers are combinations of multiple polls taken in multiple places, with much higher sample counts, and a simple binary answer (who to vote for)

They don't include a "how you feel" question involving approval or how you think he's doing his job.

She won the popular vote by 2.1 percentage points and on average, the polls predicted she would win it by 3.2 percentage points. That's pretty damn close.

RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - General Election: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein

They also over-counted the vote % for each of them by about 2% each, for another 4% of "meh"

LOL

They predicted Hillary would win by 3.2 points and she won by 2.1 points. There is no "another 4%."

 

[bendog]

National polls, which is what all these polls that we are discussing are, have correctly showed him losing the national vote.

That reality didn't change just because he won the Electoral College, which nationals polls do not measure.

Most national polls showed him losing by 4-5% plus, when in reality he only lost it by 2%

But again, this is like arguing who had the most hits in a baseball game.

AVERAGE was within 1% error - which is AMAZINGLY good.

You got a link to back that up?

The polls you refer to were taken before Comey's November Surprise.

you are really going with that?

I realize facts mean nothing to you, but it's the fact

 

[Political Junky]

Almost none of us on USMB, NYc, are normal.

Comey today, potentially, can be the triggers the end of the beginning of Trump's presidency and the beginning of the end of it.

If the situation can become catastrophic, Pence and Ryan will move quickly to send Trump packing.

Doubt it.

Trump will be President until 2021 or Melania blows him one night and causes his ticker to stop beating...

The GOP informed Nixon he could resign or be impeached .. he resigned.

 

[Weatherman2020]

...on Gallup.

Gallup Daily: Trump Job Approval

For comparison to our last GOP disaster of a president, it took GW Bush until March of 2006 to hit 37%.

And Hillary has a 97% probability of becoming President in 2017.

 

[Lakhota]

...on Gallup.

Gallup Daily: Trump Job Approval

For comparison to our last GOP disaster of a president, it took GW Bush until March of 2006 to hit 37%.

Great news! How low can he go?

Trump Exposed As A Hopeless Conspiracy Theorist By Basically Everyone Who Matters

 

[Onyx]

Failing Donald Trump...

Every supporter I know IRL is now acting harshly critical of him. They don't want to be associated with this to disgrace to humanity any longer.

 

[martybegan]

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The reality is that Trump is President, unlike the "reality" of the polls shown before the election.

.

The polls said Clinton would win the popular vote, and that's all the polls said. Did she?

A lot of the State polls were way off as well....and those are the ones that mattered, Most national polls had her up 3-5%, and she won the national vote by around 2%.

And all these numbers are combinations of multiple polls taken in multiple places, with much higher sample counts, and a simple binary answer (who to vote for)

They don't include a "how you feel" question involving approval or how you think he's doing his job.

She won the popular vote by 2.1 percentage points and on average, the polls predicted she would win it by 3.2 percentage points. That's pretty damn close.Fro

RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - General Election: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein

They also over-counted the vote % for each of them by about 2% each, for another 4% of "meh"

LOL

They predicted Hillary would win by 3.2 points and she won by 2.1 points. There is no "another 4%."

From one of your fellow travelers

RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - General Election: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein

Polling Data
Poll Date Sample MoE Clinton (D) Trump (R) Johnson (L) Stein (G) Spread
Final Results -- -- -- 48.2 46.1 3.3 1.1 Clinton +2.1
RCP Average 11/2 - 11/7 -- 45.5 42.2 4.7 1.9 Clinton +3.3

My mistake was using over-counted instead of under-counted. Clinton got 3% more than the polls figured she would, Trump 4%, so you have to account for their error with over-estimating Johnson/Stein support, and of course the undecideds right before the election (of which i was one of). Then you have to determine of the undecideds, how many voted and how many decided to just stay home.

All this leads to me continuing my disdain for polling in general unless it's like a 70-30 and above split.

 

[martybegan]

Most national polls showed him losing by 4-5% plus, when in reality he only lost it by 2%

But again, this is like arguing who had the most hits in a baseball game.

AVERAGE was within 1% error - which is AMAZINGLY good.

You got a link to back that up?

The polls you refer to were taken before Comey's November Surprise.

you are really going with that?

I realize facts mean nothing to you, but it's the fact

How is it a fact? You guys have been playing fast and loose with that word for decades.

Facts are things like gravitational constants, and a persons birth date and death date when properly documented. What you have is supposition and wishful thinking.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

...on Gallup.

Gallup Daily: Trump Job Approval

For comparison to our last GOP disaster of a president, it took GW Bush until March of 2006 to hit 37%.

Fake News from the "Hillary is a prohibitive 6-1 favorite to win as of 6PM Nov 8th" crowd

 

[GaryDog]

Trump's approval plunges to 37%

Good. Hopefully it will go even lower and stay there.

This level is very close to an absolute guarantee that the GOP loses the House in 2018.

BTW, 37% is about 7 points under the percent of votes he got in November. That is a clear indication that his supporters are turning against him.

And yet, miraculously, he maintains a 99.9% approval rating among the RW'ers on USMB. That if anything should tell you how far from normal America these people are.

Boy you are delusional!

Midterm Election years usually benefit the GOP except in the 2006 election.

So keep dreaming.

You might get the Senate but you will not obtain the House!

No, midterm elections benefit the party out of power, stupid.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

Trump's approval plunges to 37%

Good. Hopefully it will go even lower and stay there.

This level is very close to an absolute guarantee that the GOP loses the House in 2018.

BTW, 37% is about 7 points under the percent of votes he got in November. That is a clear indication that his supporters are turning against him.

And yet, miraculously, he maintains a 99.9% approval rating among the RW'ers on USMB. That if anything should tell you how far from normal America these people are.

The Left doesn't seem to be backing away from the very things that has been losing them political positions across the nation so wishing it to be so ain't going to make it so.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

What did people think it was before hand ?

37%...?? Someone is lying.

It can't be above 30%