ErikViking
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I don’t think it’s worth discussing this with you, and it’s not really on topic either. But the short answer is that you are using simple math in a complex scenario. Your “calculations” would be sufficient to make a layman's estimate of material cost, I’ll give you that.Yes, that is the way it works, dumbass. Please explain to us why my calculations are off-base.You... really? You think t h a t is the way it works?!? Oh lord. You really haven’t got a clue of what you are trying to discuss, are you?The Israeli wall is 440 miles long and cost $2.6 billion. Based on that price, a similar wall on our southern border would cost $11.8 billion.I do have to agree about the last sentence. It’s ridiculous.No...post#5 did not 'nail it'.
Will a wall stem the flow of drugs from Mexico as Trump promised?
This is from the DEA - who know a HECK of a lot more about drug smuggling than Trump does.
'National Drug Threat Assessment Summary, October 2015: Mexican TCOs transport the bulk of their drugs over the Southwest Border through ports of entry (POEs) using passenger vehicles or tractor trailers. The drugs are typically secreted in hidden compartments when transported in passenger vehicles or comingled with legitimate goods when transported in tractor trailers. Once across the Southwest Border, the drugs are transported to stash houses in hub cities such as Dallas, Houston, Los Angeles, and Phoenix, and then transported via these same conveyances to distribution groups in the Midwest and on the East Coast.
Mexican TCOs also smuggle drugs across the Southwest Border using other methods. Marijuana is occasionally trafficked through subterranean tunnels connected to a network of safe houses on both the Mexico and the US sides of the border. Mexican TCOs also transport marijuana via commercial cargo trains and on small boats, often referred to as “pangas,” from the West Coast of Baja California north to the central California coast. Finally, Mexican TCOs have also transported drugs across the Southwest Border using ultralight aircraft.'
Will Trump's Wall Stop Drug Smuggling? - FactCheck.org
A bigger wall will do almost nothing to stop illegal drug smuggling.
And there already IS a wall...it's not like there is nothing there. And building a higher wall will NOT stop illegals from getting across unless you monitor every foot of it 24 hours a day.
Now, I am for building walls where there currently is none - that just makes sense.
But building some giant thing that is still easy to get through is silly.
And to shut down government for weeks/months over this - as you call, 'symbolic' wall - is absolutely ridiculous.
I am actually for a wall. But there is no point in building one that will do little to stop illegal drugs (according to the DEA) or illegal immigrants.
I say build an Israeli-style wall. Now that WILL stop illegal immigrants coming over/under the wall.
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But the cost would be massive. Still I would be for it IF it was taken from the military budget (i.e. - NO increase in spending).
But I am not for some half assed wall that will make almost no difference.
Plus, why is Trump not talking about MASSIVE penalties for those Americans who employ illegal aliens?
Simple, lots of Republicans depend on illegal aliens for cheap labor.
Look, I didn’t mean to be rude, but let’s just say we are not talking about the same thing. Have a nice day.