Trumps first year jobs record was strong....but not as strong as Obama's

[Wyatt earp]

bear513, post: 19002731

This is what I can never figure out about you guys how do you think an anti business president is better then a pro business president?.

Your fake reality strikes again. Fake reality employs over simiplification in order to defile the simpleton, trickle down believing, conservative mind. Reality is more complex and nuanced than being simply pro-business, granting potentially corrupt businessmen the ability to making business (profit taking) moves lucrative for them, while most harmful to wage earning Americans.

The reality based question you should have asked is whether Trump or Obama are pro-ALL. AMERICANS in a balanced way that benefits are shared universally rather than for just those at the top - LIKE TRUMP himself.

Obama wins that contest hands down already as we watch Trump help himself feeding at the trough, muscleling out the smaller and the wealthy get richer and richer than ever - setting up the next economic collapse with a frayed safety net less able to catch the lower classes who end up always suffering the most.

Being trickle downed on is synonymous with being pissed on.

I am trying to figure out this post.what are you saying?, we live in a free America one state raises taxes company's leave to low tax states or over seas ..

Trump humbled him self and knows to be a great president he has to help all Americans , that's why he told Emanuel the mayor of Chicago you need help I will send in the national guard he declined the offer..
He told Mexican president Enrique Peña Nieto you want help he will send in the US military..he declined the offer.


Trickle down is way better then trickle up being pissed on with Obama care..its just trickle up misery for everyone..

We live in a global economy now been that way from the 1980s its no turning back , I know Trump wants it and I know liberals want it.

 

[Wyatt earp]

I have little doubt Barry created more GOVERNMENT jobs than Trump will in 8 years...

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

Industry: Total private

Constant private sector job creation from March 2010 thru Jan 2017 - a record.

How did Obama do it?

Please be specific?

 

[NotfooledbyW]

bear513, post: 19003038

Jobs went to the redstates, republicans took over the house in 2010..and slow down Obama's recklessness ..

Bullshit. Back that up with something.

California is one of the bluest of blue states in the nation and the most environmental conscious state as well.

. bear513, post: 19003038

Take a well deserved five minute vacation from fake reality read the linked reality based data.

 

[Wyatt earp]

The general rule for republicans talking about economics.

FACTS SUCK.

What facts ?

Unless you can provide policies by Obama that did it moron...


Give me those facts?


Once again wall street..janet yellen

Jobs ; republicans governors

Tarp Bush Jr

Started to bail out Detroit: Bush

Tax cuts : Bush Jr

Slowed down the recovery: Obama with Obama care and his EPA.


Quit being an economic fool.


.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

bear513, post: 1900315

Trickle down is way better then trickle up being pissed on with Obama care..its just trickle up misery for everyone..

What trickle up misery are you talking about? Fake reality has taken its toll on you.

Has the stock market risen to record levels since the Great Bush Recession despite Obamacare being passed early in the Obama recovery era?

A simple yes will do.

How can that be? It is still the law of the land and more popular than ever.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

I am trying to figure out this post.what are you saying?, we live in a free America one state raises taxes company's leave to low tax states or over seas ..

Look up "oversimplification" and when you understand what that neans I may be able to help you with the rest. You must leave fake reality at the doorstep if you truly seek the comfort and satisfaction of being in the facts and reason based world. Trump is not in here.

 

[Lumpy 1]

bear513, post: 1900315

Trickle down is way better then trickle up being pissed on with Obama care..its just trickle up misery for everyone..

Has the stock market risen to record levels since the Great Bush Recession despite Obamacare being passed early in the Obama recovery era.

How can that be? It is still the law of the land and more popular than ever.

I recall when Nancy and Harry took over Congress and the economy tanked as well as the stock market, jobs, then add a housing bubble Democrats gleefully embraced and you got a Democratic Party economy but a, "Great Bush Recession" ...

 

[Norman]

The general rule for republicans talking about economics.

FACTS SUCK.

What facts ?

Unless you can provide policies by Obama that did it moron...


Give me those facts?


Once again wall street..janet yellen

Jobs ; republicans governors

Tarp Bush Jr

Started to bail out Detroit: Bush

Tax cuts : Bush Jr

Slowed down the recovery: Obama with Obama care and his EPA.


Quit being an economic fool.


.

He's echoing himself.

Obama 10 T debt isn't exactly an economic achievement. Fact that really sucks for him.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

bear513, post: 19003171

Slowed down the recovery: Obama with Obama care and his EPA

That is only perceived as fact in the fake reality world. Get a grip. You can never know that to be true?

California disproves your fake reality opinion quite easily as well.

 

[Wyatt earp]

bear513, post: 19003038

Jobs went to the redstates, republicans took over the house in 2010..and slow down Obama's recklessness ..

Bullshit. Back that up with something.

California is one of the bluest of blue states in the nation and the most environmental conscious state as well.

. bear513, post: 19003038

Take a well deserved five minute vacation from fake reality read the linked reality based data.

What fake reality everything that's common knowledge with a simple google search?


2012

Another Triumph for Texas: Best/Worst States for Business 2012




RANK STATE 2011 RANK 1-YEAR CHANGE
1 Texas 1 0
2 Florida 3 1
3 North Carolina 2 -1
4 Tennessee 4 0
5 Indiana 6 1
6 Virginia 7 1
7 South Carolina 8 1
8 Georgia 5 -3
9 Utah 9 0
10 Arizona 13 3
11 Colorado 12 1
12 Nevada 10 -2
13 Louisiana 27 14
14 Delaware 16 2
15 North Dakota 21 6
16 Wyoming 14 -2
17 Oklahoma 11 -6
18 Idaho 19 1
19 South Dakota 15 -4
20 Wisconsin 24 4
21 Alabama 26 5
22 Iowa 22 0
23 Kansas 25 2
24 Missouri 23 -1
25 Kentucky 17 -8
26 New Hampshire 18 -8
27 Nebraska 20 -7
28 Montana 28 0
29 Arkansas 30 1
30 Mississippi 38 8
31 Alaska 31 0
32 Maine 36 4
33 New Mexico 32 -1
34 West Virginia 42 8
35 Ohio 41 6
36 Minnesota 29 -7
37 Washington 34 -3
38 Vermont 40 2
39 Rhode Island 35 -4
40 Maryland 37 -3
41 Hawaii 43 2
42 Oregon 33 -9
43 Pennsylvania 39 -4
44 Connecticut 44 0
45 New Jersey 47 2
46 Michigan 46 0
47 Massachusetts 45 -2
48 Illinois 48 0
49 New York 49 0
50 California 50 0

 

[NotfooledbyW]

I recall when Nancy and Harry took over Congress and the economy tanked as well as the stock market, jobs, then add a housing bubble Democrats gleefully embraced and you got a Democratic Party economy but a, "Great Bush Recession" ...

So we are not talking about Republican Presidents being responsible for good or bad economic news when the news is godawful as it was in 2008.

That economic disaster was fueled by the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy during wartime was it not?

 

[NotfooledbyW]

bear513, post: 19003038

Jobs went to the redstates, republicans took over the house in 2010..and slow down Obama's recklessness ..

Bullshit. Back that up with something.

California is one of the bluest of blue states in the nation and the most environmental conscious state as well.

. bear513, post: 19003038

Take a well deserved five minute vacation from fake reality read the linked reality based data.

What fake reality everything that's common knowledge with a simple google search?


2012

Another Triumph for Texas: Best/Worst States for Business 2012




RANK STATE 2011 RANK 1-YEAR CHANGE
1 Texas 1 0
2 Florida 3 1
3 North Carolina 2 -1
4 Tennessee 4 0
5 Indiana 6 1
6 Virginia 7 1
7 South Carolina 8 1
8 Georgia 5 -3
9 Utah 9 0
10 Arizona 13 3
11 Colorado 12 1
12 Nevada 10 -2
13 Louisiana 27 14
14 Delaware 16 2
15 North Dakota 21 6
16 Wyoming 14 -2
17 Oklahoma 11 -6
18 Idaho 19 1
19 South Dakota 15 -4
20 Wisconsin 24 4
21 Alabama 26 5
22 Iowa 22 0
23 Kansas 25 2
24 Missouri 23 -1
25 Kentucky 17 -8
26 New Hampshire 18 -8
27 Nebraska 20 -7
28 Montana 28 0
29 Arkansas 30 1
30 Mississippi 38 8
31 Alaska 31 0
32 Maine 36 4
33 New Mexico 32 -1
34 West Virginia 42 8
35 Ohio 41 6
36 Minnesota 29 -7
37 Washington 34 -3
38 Vermont 40 2
39 Rhode Island 35 -4
40 Maryland 37 -3
41 Hawaii 43 2
42 Oregon 33 -9
43 Pennsylvania 39 -4
44 Connecticut 44 0
45 New Jersey 47 2
46 Michigan 46 0
47 Massachusetts 45 -2
48 Illinois 48 0
49 New York 49 0
50 California 50 0

Dude, this is 2018. Not 2012. How long did you search for a list with near meaningless data,

Good for business does not necessarily translate into good for wage earners. You are still over simplifying a more nuanced issue.

 

[Wyatt earp]

bear513, post: 19003038

Jobs went to the redstates, republicans took over the house in 2010..and slow down Obama's recklessness ..

Bullshit. Back that up with something.

California is one of the bluest of blue states in the nation and the most environmental conscious state as well.

. bear513, post: 19003038

Take a well deserved five minute vacation from fake reality read the linked reality based data.

What fake reality everything that's common knowledge with a simple google search?


2012

Another Triumph for Texas: Best/Worst States for Business 2012




RANK STATE 2011 RANK 1-YEAR CHANGE
1 Texas 1 0
2 Florida 3 1
3 North Carolina 2 -1
4 Tennessee 4 0
5 Indiana 6 1
6 Virginia 7 1
7 South Carolina 8 1
8 Georgia 5 -3
9 Utah 9 0
10 Arizona 13 3
11 Colorado 12 1
12 Nevada 10 -2
13 Louisiana 27 14
14 Delaware 16 2
15 North Dakota 21 6
16 Wyoming 14 -2
17 Oklahoma 11 -6
18 Idaho 19 1
19 South Dakota 15 -4
20 Wisconsin 24 4
21 Alabama 26 5
22 Iowa 22 0
23 Kansas 25 2
24 Missouri 23 -1
25 Kentucky 17 -8
26 New Hampshire 18 -8
27 Nebraska 20 -7
28 Montana 28 0
29 Arkansas 30 1
30 Mississippi 38 8
31 Alaska 31 0
32 Maine 36 4
33 New Mexico 32 -1
34 West Virginia 42 8
35 Ohio 41 6
36 Minnesota 29 -7
37 Washington 34 -3
38 Vermont 40 2
39 Rhode Island 35 -4
40 Maryland 37 -3
41 Hawaii 43 2
42 Oregon 33 -9
43 Pennsylvania 39 -4
44 Connecticut 44 0
45 New Jersey 47 2
46 Michigan 46 0
47 Massachusetts 45 -2
48 Illinois 48 0
49 New York 49 0
50 California 50 0

Dude, this is 2018. Not 2012. How long did you search for a list with near meaningless data,

Good for business does not necessarily translate into good for wage earners. You are still over simplifying a more nuanced issue.

You refuse to to except facts the red states were the only leaders in jobs during the Obama administration..

The red states had the lowest unemployment by far during those years, Obama didn't do shit it was fracking and he hated it in the Dakotas it was governors of red states like in texas , Oklahoma, south Carolina that lowered the unemployment rate.

Quit trying to revise history it makes you look stupid

 

[Wyatt earp]

I recall when Nancy and Harry took over Congress and the economy tanked as well as the stock market, jobs, then add a housing bubble Democrats gleefully embraced and you got a Democratic Party economy but a, "Great Bush Recession" ...

So we are not talking about Republican Presidents being responsible for good or bad economic news when the news is godawful as it was in 2008.

That economic disaster was fueled by the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy during wartime was it not?

What the heck is this? Once again Obama made over 80% Bush tax cuts permanent in 2013..


Obama didn't do a damn thing except copy Bush Jr and made it worse with Obama care and his anti business EPA.

 

[Wyatt earp]

bear513, post: 19003038

Jobs went to the redstates, republicans took over the house in 2010..and slow down Obama's recklessness ..

Bullshit. Back that up with something.

California is one of the bluest of blue states in the nation and the most environmental conscious state as well.

. bear513, post: 19003038

Take a well deserved five minute vacation from fake reality read the linked reality based data.

What fake reality everything that's common knowledge with a simple google search?


2012

Another Triumph for Texas: Best/Worst States for Business 2012




RANK STATE 2011 RANK 1-YEAR CHANGE
1 Texas 1 0
2 Florida 3 1
3 North Carolina 2 -1
4 Tennessee 4 0
5 Indiana 6 1
6 Virginia 7 1
7 South Carolina 8 1
8 Georgia 5 -3
9 Utah 9 0
10 Arizona 13 3
11 Colorado 12 1
12 Nevada 10 -2
13 Louisiana 27 14
14 Delaware 16 2
15 North Dakota 21 6
16 Wyoming 14 -2
17 Oklahoma 11 -6
18 Idaho 19 1
19 South Dakota 15 -4
20 Wisconsin 24 4
21 Alabama 26 5
22 Iowa 22 0
23 Kansas 25 2
24 Missouri 23 -1
25 Kentucky 17 -8
26 New Hampshire 18 -8
27 Nebraska 20 -7
28 Montana 28 0
29 Arkansas 30 1
30 Mississippi 38 8
31 Alaska 31 0
32 Maine 36 4
33 New Mexico 32 -1
34 West Virginia 42 8
35 Ohio 41 6
36 Minnesota 29 -7
37 Washington 34 -3
38 Vermont 40 2
39 Rhode Island 35 -4
40 Maryland 37 -3
41 Hawaii 43 2
42 Oregon 33 -9
43 Pennsylvania 39 -4
44 Connecticut 44 0
45 New Jersey 47 2
46 Michigan 46 0
47 Massachusetts 45 -2
48 Illinois 48 0
49 New York 49 0
50 California 50 0

Dude, this is 2018. Not 2012. How long did you search for a list with near meaningless data,

Good for business does not necessarily translate into good for wage earners. You are still over simplifying a more nuanced issue.

You refuse to to except facts the red states were the only leaders in jobs during the Obama administration..

The red states had the lowest unemployment by far during those years, Obama didn't do shit it was fracking and he hated it in the Dakotas it was governors of red states like in texas , Oklahoma, south Carolina that lowered the unemployment rate.

Quit trying to revise history it makes you look stupid

Once again for the millionth time during the Obama years workers at Walmart and McDonald's was making up to $17 bucks plus an hour up in the Dakotas..why was that because of obama? No..




Why One Walmart in North Dakota Is Paying $17.40 an Hour

 

[Lumpy 1]

I recall when Nancy and Harry took over Congress and the economy tanked as well as the stock market, jobs, then add a housing bubble Democrats gleefully embraced and you got a Democratic Party economy but a, "Great Bush Recession" ...

So we are not talking about Republican Presidents being responsible for good or bad economic news when the news is godawful as it was in 2008.

That economic disaster was fueled by the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy during wartime was it not?

I suppose you're welcome to think so... Dysfunctional government, dishonest media, corrupt politics are my culprits of choice at the moment.

 

[Wyatt earp]

bear513, post: 19003038

Jobs went to the redstates, republicans took over the house in 2010..and slow down Obama's recklessness ..

Bullshit. Back that up with something.

California is one of the bluest of blue states in the nation and the most environmental conscious state as well.

. bear513, post: 19003038

Take a well deserved five minute vacation from fake reality read the linked reality based data.

What fake reality everything that's common knowledge with a simple google search?


2012

Another Triumph for Texas: Best/Worst States for Business 2012




RANK STATE 2011 RANK 1-YEAR CHANGE
1 Texas 1 0
2 Florida 3 1
3 North Carolina 2 -1
4 Tennessee 4 0
5 Indiana 6 1
6 Virginia 7 1
7 South Carolina 8 1
8 Georgia 5 -3
9 Utah 9 0
10 Arizona 13 3
11 Colorado 12 1
12 Nevada 10 -2
13 Louisiana 27 14
14 Delaware 16 2
15 North Dakota 21 6
16 Wyoming 14 -2
17 Oklahoma 11 -6
18 Idaho 19 1
19 South Dakota 15 -4
20 Wisconsin 24 4
21 Alabama 26 5
22 Iowa 22 0
23 Kansas 25 2
24 Missouri 23 -1
25 Kentucky 17 -8
26 New Hampshire 18 -8
27 Nebraska 20 -7
28 Montana 28 0
29 Arkansas 30 1
30 Mississippi 38 8
31 Alaska 31 0
32 Maine 36 4
33 New Mexico 32 -1
34 West Virginia 42 8
35 Ohio 41 6
36 Minnesota 29 -7
37 Washington 34 -3
38 Vermont 40 2
39 Rhode Island 35 -4
40 Maryland 37 -3
41 Hawaii 43 2
42 Oregon 33 -9
43 Pennsylvania 39 -4
44 Connecticut 44 0
45 New Jersey 47 2
46 Michigan 46 0
47 Massachusetts 45 -2
48 Illinois 48 0
49 New York 49 0
50 California 50 0

Dude, this is 2018. Not 2012. How long did you search for a list with near meaningless data,

Good for business does not necessarily translate into good for wage earners. You are still over simplifying a more nuanced issue.

You thought the messiah was the biggest thing to come along since slice bread , he was a joke for job creation , he didn't do shit except to stall it..he would of loved to see gas prices go up to $10 bucks a gallon, so he could promote global warming..execpt fracking in the Dakotas.. stopped the asshole euopean socialist right in his tracks..


It was hilarious to watch..

 

[NotfooledbyW]

You refuse to to except facts the red states were the only leaders in jobs during the Obama administration..

Only? That's a lie. Why do you repeat fake reality? I live in Virgina . We voted Obama, Obama, Clinton the past three elections and proud of it.

Nearby? The District of Columbia was in second place in per capita job growth from 2010 through 2013.

Don't like per capita job growth then California was the number one job creator during that time period.

.
For our latest Forbes piece, we delved into the rebounding California labor market to see which industries are fueling the jobs comeback (hint: retail, restaurants, technology, and crop production), and which metros in the state are recovering the fastest.

California gained the most total jobs of all states from 2010 to 2013 and from 2012 to 2013. But it also has the largest population of any state, an estimated 38 million residents. So where does it stand in per-capita job growth?

States With Most Per Capita Job Gains Since 2010 - Emsi

Leaders in economic recovery job growth.

The top 12 states/District per capita job growth according to Forbes 2010 to 2013 in order:

North Dakota, DC, Utah, Texas, COLO, CALIFORNIA, MICHIGAN, MINNESOTA, HAWAII, Arizona, MASSACHUSETTS, WASHINGTON.

Seven of twelve are blue states that voted for Obama.

So you presented fake reality. What are you going to do about it?

Why not talk about West Virginia and Trump's big lie to the Coal Minors there. Trump put WVA at the bottom of your best for business lust.

. Mining employment has leveled off lately, but despite President Trump's repeated promises to "put the miners back to work," and promises from Gov. Justice to do the same, the West Virginia University researchers predict coal-mining employment will resume its decline and continue to drop for the foreseeable future. West Virginia's workforce is not the best positioned to adapt.

In an economic death spiral: America's worst state for business in 2017

What exactly is Trump's excuse for breaking his promise to the coal minors in West Virginia?

"the West Virginia University researchers predict coal-mining employment will resume its decline and continue to drop for the foreseeable future. West Virginia's workforce is not the best positioned to adapt."

So Hillary was right about need to educate the workforce. Trump lied to get coal country votes. What a disaster. Who are he hell needs a better education - vote for Trump - coal savior.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

bear513, post: 19003232

..he would of loved to see gas prices go up to $10 bucks a gallon, so he could promote global warming..exect fracking in the Dakotas.. stopped the asshole euopean socialist right in his tracks..

Fuel efficient cars had more to do with Obama's great low gasoline prices than fracking. If oil prices went up so would the price of fracked oil. Basic economics. And a global oil glut. It wasn't fracking.


And Obama was born in Kenya right.

Look at your words. Hate induced nonsense alone comes through your keyboard. No reality no facts, no links, just rabid conservative propaganda machine bull puckey.

You suggestion is absurd. Nothing could be farther from the truth.

I can see reality is not a place in which you would be able to find comfort and joy. Sad! as genius and stable Trumpo is fond of saying.

Based on actual Trumpo tweets of course. We who live in reality can't just make things up.

 

[Wyatt earp]

You refuse to to except facts the red states were the only leaders in jobs during the Obama administration..

Only? That's a lie. Why do you repeat fake reality? I live in Virgina . We voted Obama, Obama, Clinton the past three elections and proud of it.

Nearby? The District of Columbia was in second place in per capita job growth from 2010 through 2013.

Don't like per capita job growth then California was the number one job creator during that time period.

.
For our latest Forbes piece, we delved into the rebounding California labor market to see which industries are fueling the jobs comeback (hint: retail, restaurants, technology, and crop production), and which metros in the state are recovering the fastest.

California gained the most total jobs of all states from 2010 to 2013 and from 2012 to 2013. But it also has the largest population of any state, an estimated 38 million residents. So where does it stand in per-capita job growth?

States With Most Per Capita Job Gains Since 2010 - Emsi

Leaders in economic recovery job growth.

The top 12 states/District per capita job growth according to Forbes 2010 to 2013 in order:

North Dakota, DC, Utah, Texas, COLO, CALIFORNIA, MICHIGAN, MINNESOTA, HAWAII, Arizona, MASSACHUSETTS, WASHINGTON.

Seven of twelve are blue states that voted for Obama.

So you presented fake reality. What are you going to do about it?

Why not talk about West Virginia and Trump's big lie to the Coal Minors there. Trump put WVA at the bottom of your best for business lust.

. Mining employment has leveled off lately, but despite President Trump's repeated promises to "put the miners back to work," and promises from Gov. Justice to do the same, the West Virginia University researchers predict coal-mining employment will resume its decline and continue to drop for the foreseeable future. West Virginia's workforce is not the best positioned to adapt.

In an economic death spiral: America's worst state for business in 2017

What exactly is Trump's excuse for breaking his promise to the coal minors in West Virginia?

"the West Virginia University researchers predict coal-mining employment will resume its decline and continue to drop for the foreseeable future. West Virginia's workforce is not the best positioned to adapt."

So Hillary was right about need to educate the workforce. Trump lied to get coal country votes. What a disaster. Who are he hell needs a better education - vote for Trump - coal savior.

Lmfao district if Columbia?

Seriously fruit cake government jobs that don't produce anything ?


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