Trumps "immunity" defence is punctured by the first question

[Winston]

I agree. It is dumb to argue a president can kill a political rival. But here we are.

Here is how this should play out. If the DC court of appeals does not grant Trump's claim of immunity, he will appeal to the SCOTUS. And if the SCOTUS backs that claim of immunity, which it might, although I doubt it, but we really need to lay this scenario out there.

So, Biden is the Democrat nominee, Trump the Republican. In the first debate, when Biden and Trump go on stage to shake hands, Biden pulls out a handgun and blows Trump away. Promptly exclaims he is resigning from office, and then calmly walks away. Harris is president, the Republicans have no alternative candidate, impeachment is off the table, and, oh yeah, Biden has immunity.

 

[Oddball]

Trump team argues assassination of rivals is covered by presidential immunity

Former President Trump’s legal team suggested Tuesday that even a president directing SEAL Team Six to kill a political opponent would be an action barred from prosecution given a former executive&…

thehill.com

The people that are arguing that President Biden is abusing his office because a Special Counsel has indicted his political rival, is now arguing a President can KILL his political opponent and get away with it, providing he isn't impeached for the deed or resigns if impeachment looms. Feel free to justify it.

Judge Michelle Childs, a Biden appointee, noted that a president could resign rather than face impeachment, something that under the framework of Trump’s attorneys would allow them to dodge future prosecution.

Fucking retarded....That's not anywhere near what the answer to the patently absurd question was.

Way to fall for it, fool.

 

[BluesLegend]

And when it doesnt,, you make sure to admit you were engaged in cult fantasy.

The only cult in America is the Dem cult. Shit how many do you Dems have now, there's the...

Dem climate cult
The Dem tranny/gay cult
The Dem hate the rich cult
The Dem fair share corporation hate cult
The Dem BLM cult

Hell you weirdos even have a Dem kitchen appliances are evil cult now. See a professional about your fucked up brains.

 

[Oddball]

Obama murdered Osama bin Laden without due process.

How do you justify this?

Barry the Boiking summarily executed a U.S. citizen on foreign soil, and nothing happened.

 

[BluesLegend]

Care to make a bet?

The winner gets to pick the loser's avatar for one month.

Meh, Dems always welsh out of bets. You can never count on a Dem to hold up their end, they are douchebags.

 

[Winston]

Barry the Boiking summarily executed a U.S. citizen on foreign soil, and nothing happened.

OBL was an American citizen, the hell you say.

 

[Oddball]

OBL was an American citizen, the hell you say.

I wasn't talking about OBL, nitwit.

 

[BluesLegend]

The people that are arguing that President Biden is abusing his office because a Special Counsel has indicted his political rival

Start with that guy isn't a Special Counsel, he's a Biden shill. Wait for it...OH SNAP!

 

[Oddball]

Start with that guy isn't a Special Counsel, he's a Biden shill. Wait for it...OH SNAP!

Add onto that a total hack "judge", who asked the entirely absurd question for the purpose of getting this response.

 

[MinTrut]

I wasn't talking about OBL, nitwit.

We really do need poster competency testing here...

 

[forkup]

Was he?

By what finding of fact?

See above.

Above.

Fabulous.

So you support the "War On Terror," and its use as a justification for extra-judicial murder.

Trump's been called both a terrorist and insurrectionist, so if Biden had Trump murdered, you'd be okay with it, right?

By what finding of fact?

By the fact that he said he did it. Nor is typical jurisprudence applicable in war. If it was every single soldier in combat would be liable for murder.

Trump's been called both a terrorist and insurrectionist, so if Biden had Trump murdered, you'd be okay with it, right?

Way to turn the argument. I'm not the one arguing that a president can kill political opponents. That's Trump. And I asked YOU to give a justification for it. Trying to make me do it in your stead is pretty original I have to say.

You asked me to justify the killing of a terrorist who freely admitted to several terrorist acts. A killing preceded by a law signed by congress specifically citing those acts as a reason for war.

So again. You obviously support Trump as the next president. Tell me why his view on presidential immunity is justified?

 

[Clipper]

Does anyone really think Trump would use his position to persecute his opponents? That's just paranoid crazy talk from the unhinged left. Trump was one of the least fascist Presidents we've ever had.

"Of the last three presidents, Trump was either the most indifferent or the most obstructed when it came to using government agencies for his own partisan political advantages or to neuter his enemies.

For the Left, Donald Trump is synonymous with “fascism” (or “semi-fascism,” as Joe Biden put it the other day). And for Liz Cheney and most of the NeverTrumpers, he remains an existential threat to democracy.

But to quantify those charges, what exactly has Trump done extralegally - as opposed to his bombast and braggadocio about what he might have wished to have done?

And what are the standards by which to judge this supposed menace?

Did Trump illegally and with a mere signature nullify over $300 billion of contracted student loans—to firm up his college-student and college-graduate base nine weeks before the midterm elections?

If Trump wished to abuse his power over the IRS, he would have followed the Obama model of weaponizing it during a reelection year to go after his ideological enemies.

Did Trump blatantly use the national security apparatus of the government to enhance his own reelection bid in 2020?

Was Trump ever caught on a hot mic promising a Russian president that he would try to ease Russian worries about Eastern European missile defense if only the Russians would give him space during his 2012 campaign for president against Mitt Romney?

Did Trump weaponize the FBI? That is, did the FBI go after journalists, former Obama officials, or Democratic Party activists who variously were attacking Don Jr. or Ivanka on the pretenses of retrieving one of their lost laptops or diaries?

Are there texts of Trump-era FBI agents talking about how to “stop” Hillary Clinton’s or Biden’s election bid?

Did the Trump Justice Department start an investigation of the suspected illegal lobbying of Joe Biden and Hunter Biden, who used the former’s political connections to win large cash payments from foreign governments?

Did Trump order an FBI raid on the Obama home, on rumors that there were thousands of documents under dispute with the National Archives in his possession, especially given the Obama record of fiercely fighting any Freedom of Information Act lawsuits to release his documents?

Was Jake Sullivan’s phone grabbed by the FBI at an airport to determine his role in the Russian collusion hoax?

Are there now any former Trump loyalists who, as “anonymous” officials in cabinet agencies or obstructionists on the National Security Council, are writing op-eds about their stealthy daily efforts to undermine Biden’s executive orders or his administration’s action?

Are there now “50 former intelligence officials” who signed affidavits in support of Trump’s allegations about the authenticity of Hunter’s laptop?

Between 2017 and 2020, did Trump’s team systematically seek to change the voting laws in key states to radically transform traditional balloting, in a mail-in or early voting revolution, in which only 30 percent of the electorate would vote on Election Day?

Was there any “dark money” effort analogous to the efforts of corporate and tech money along with DNC activists and Biden operators in what Time magazine’s Molly Ball described as a “conspiracy” to ensure the defeat of Trump’s opponent?

How about Trump’s efforts to revolutionize the very system of government? Did he promote a court-packing scheme to ensure he might not just get a 5-4 majority, but perhaps an 11-4 conservative advantage in a new 15-justice Supreme Court?

Did he dream up ways of getting rid of the Electoral College so the “blue wall” might never return?

Did Trump as president meet with CIA and FBI directors who, in their weekly and daily briefings, apprised him of efforts to monitor, spy, and infiltrate the campaign of Joe Biden?

The strange thing about Trump was that he did not use extraordinary powers to investigate anyone unlawfully. He boasted, he railed, he screamed, he whined, he became at times crude and obnoxious. But he did not use the FBI, the CIA, the Justice Department, or the IRS to go after the Obamas, the Clintons, or the Bidens.

In fact, of the last three presidents, Trump was either the most inept or indifferent, or the most obstructed concerning any issue of using government agencies for his own partisan political advantages or to neuter his enemies. "

The Strangest Thing About "Semi-Fascist" Trump | ZeroHedge

He won't? Trump had Cohen returned to prison & put in solitary because he refused to sign an agreement pledging not to write a book critical of him.

Trump the gangster had his ass handed back to him when a judge ordered Cohen released from the clutches of Trump's DOJ hatchet men.

 

[MinTrut]

Here is how this should play out. If the DC court of appeals does not grant Trump's claim of immunity, he will appeal to the SCOTUS. And if the SCOTUS backs that claim of immunity, which it might, although I doubt it, but we really need to lay this scenario out there.

So, Biden is the Democrat nominee, Trump the Republican. In the first debate, when Biden and Trump go on stage to shake hands, Biden pulls out a handgun and blows Trump away. Promptly exclaims he is resigning from office, and then calmly walks away. Harris is president, the Republicans have no alternative candidate, impeachment is off the table, and, oh yeah, Biden has immunity.

We don't need such a complicated scenario.

According to DemocraThink, Biden can do this now and without consequence, and it needn't even be on 5th Avenue.

Ironic, don't you think?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The only cult in America is the Dem cult. Shit how many do you Dems have now, there's the...

Dem climate cult
The Dem tranny/gay cult
The Dem hate the rich cult
The Dem fair share corporation hate cult
The Dem BLM cult

Hell you weirdos even have a Dem kitchen appliances are evil cult now. See a professional about your fucked up brains.

All of you pathetic cultists think you are successful gaslighters, since you think Trump was a successful gaslighter. Now all of you halfwits do it.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Meh, Dems always welsh out of bets. You can never count on a Dem to hold up their end, they are douchebags.

We can definitely count on you to hide, when this doesn't go your orange God's way.

Count on that.

 

[BluesLegend]

All of you pathetic cultists think you are successful gaslighters, since you think Trump was a successful gaslighter. Now all of you halfwits do it.

What are you blabbering about incoherently?

 

[BluesLegend]

We can definitely count on you to hide, when this doesn't go your orange God's way.

Count on that.

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[Seymour Flops]

I’m not going to lie, I always thought this presidential immunity approach was pretty weak. I think it’s just a stall tactic. Jack Smith was so eager that the trial start right before whichever important primary it was, that this is just a way to throw him off his rhythm.

If the president really does have immunity for his ex in office, then impeaching him after the fact, shouldn’t change that, and allow him to be prosecuted.

If the president really does have impunity, it would have to be for actions as president, not just while president, in my opinion. Making a speech about how he thought the election was stolen, seems much more the act of. Rather than..

More importantly, why fall back on some novel legal theory of presidential immunity instead of just saying it wasn’t a crime because he was making a speech, duh! But lawyers like to throw every possibility at every case.

 

[forkup]

Here is how this should play out. If the DC court of appeals does not grant Trump's claim of immunity, he will appeal to the SCOTUS. And if the SCOTUS backs that claim of immunity, which it might, although I doubt it, but we really need to lay this scenario out there.

So, Biden is the Democrat nominee, Trump the Republican. In the first debate, when Biden and Trump go on stage to shake hands, Biden pulls out a handgun and blows Trump away. Promptly exclaims he is resigning from office, and then calmly walks away. Harris is president, the Republicans have no alternative candidate, impeachment is off the table, and, oh yeah, Biden has immunity.

You are the second person in this OP laying out this particular scenario. And again, I completely understand the sentiment. However, you don't talk about killing your political opponent, even in jest.

This is my suggestion. Don't allow the whataboutism. Hang this around the neck of anyone defending Trump. This is an argument he's making. It's crazy, un-American, immoral and.... utterly indefensible. So, make them defend it. Don't give them a easy way out.

 

[forkup]

Fucking retarded....That's not anywhere near what the answer to the patently absurd question was.

Way to fall for it, fool.

Oh goody. So, give me the answer that his lawyers provided for that "patently absurd question?"