Turkey in a Uproar

Are the protestors wanting a more Islamic state or is this something else?

It started off with a relatively peaceful protest by a few environmentally minded against tearing out a park and putting in a shopping center. Islamic militants were able to divert the reason for removing the park to a secular attack on islam as the park was used during prayer time by the devout as a place to roll out the prayer mats.

This is a common tactic by muslim militants. They can take any protest, no matter what the reason, and turn it into a major riot. The muslim majority of Turkey has been agitated against the avowed secularist government. Turkey's Constitution provides for religious freedom. Only 2% of Turkey isn't muslim. The majority want to change things.

Throw into this volatile mix, the Kurds who will exploit any conflict to achieve independence and you have the makings of a civil war.

Are the protestors wanting a more Islamic state or is this something else?

This is much different than the Arab Spring. It's much like the Iranian protests. Turkey used to be a moderate secular country with a near 100% Islamic population that had a growing economy, now secularism is near dead and it's run by an Islamist government that is curtailing freedoms and private enterprises.

These protesters are secularist along with the Unions against the facist Islamist in charge!

So..you've been shown..by some of conservative compatriots..to be completely wrong about the cause of the protests.

Any retort?

:lol:

Yes I will take Katz interpretation of the events and chalk my innitial reaction to wishful thinking. However, how was your interpretation correct?
 
You also have the more secular people being pissed off over some Islamic based edicts, involving things like alcohol consumption.

Not really.

They are pretty happy that the government isn't as Military centric as it use to be.

But they are overly business friendly. Hence the protests.

Notice..the Unions are involved..right?

Last time I was in Istanbul, Unions were protesting as well.

LOL, what was one of the first things Arrogantadogan did? He expanded and seeked to double the size of the Turkish military in a 'stated' effort to decrease their high unemployment.

Hmm..where has that been tried before..

Oh yeah..in the good ol' US of A.

And your cutesy namecalling of heads of state really doesn't add all that much to your "credibility".

:lol:
 
It started off with a relatively peaceful protest by a few environmentally minded against tearing out a park and putting in a shopping center. Islamic militants were able to divert the reason for removing the park to a secular attack on islam as the park was used during prayer time by the devout as a place to roll out the prayer mats.

This is a common tactic by muslim militants. They can take any protest, no matter what the reason, and turn it into a major riot. The muslim majority of Turkey has been agitated against the avowed secularist government. Turkey's Constitution provides for religious freedom. Only 2% of Turkey isn't muslim. The majority want to change things.

Throw into this volatile mix, the Kurds who will exploit any conflict to achieve independence and you have the makings of a civil war.

I think the Roma also joined the protests.

But the root of this isn't "muslim militants", it's class related.


The left started it. Environmentalists, communists, Roma, unions.

But the right will finish it and take over completely, if the pattern established so far across the Mideast holds.

Or it could develop into a civil war in which we won't know whether left or right wins for months or years.

A lot of Muslim apologists say, "Oh, nothing happening here, it'll all die down, nothing really going on!!"

And so far, they have always been wrong, except perhaps when Saudi troops overwhelmed little Bahrain and stopped that revolution cold. Otherwise they have all continued to either rightist Islamic takeover or civil war.

Not so sure about that.

The economy in Turkey is doing very well.

No one wants to screw that up.
 

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