Uh Oh.....Turkey's in Trouble!

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Is Turkey a US ally?

1. "On March 1, 2003, the Turkish parliament rejected a resolution authorizing the
deployment of U.S. forces to Turkey to open a northern front in a war against Iraq."
Iraq: Turkey, the Deployment of U.S. Forces, and Related Issues

Put a crimp in the US military operations against Iraq.....

Ally?


Well, now it's personal!

Check this out:

2. "Revolutionary Islamism is an innately anti-American and racist doctrine. Usually this manifests as anti-Semitic or anti-Christian views (since in the case of Islam, religion now seems to have been reintepreted as race when convenient), yet sometimes it arises in different but not highly publicized examples — such as with the racism employed against Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice in Palestinian and other Arabic newspaper cartoons.

3. ....Obama has endlessly flattered the radical Turkish leader Recep Erdogan, ignoring his insults and his subversion of U.S. interests. Obama presents Erdogan as his ideal Middle East leader, a “moderate Islamist,” and Obama has turned over U.S. Syria policy to Turkish regime direction.


4. .... the increasingly repressive Erdogan has publicly blamed the opposition to him on … a Jewish plot. Perhaps with the U.S. government supporting the Muslim Brotherhood, anti-Semitism is no longer a detriment to Obama administration backing.


[Get ready!]

5. But what does Erdogan really think of Obama?

6. ....Erdogan now is blaming him for the fall of Egypt’s government. As is customary, every Tuesday Erdogan addresses his AKP party group in the parliament. As usual, part of his speech was devoted to ridiculing Kemal Kilicdaroglu, leader of the opposition....



[Here it comes!!]


7..... this time, he ended that part of his speech with these words:

Kilicdaroglu is striving every bit he can to raise himself from the level of a black person (zenci in Turkish, which is the same as “negro”) to the level of a white man."
Rubin Reports » Why Does Obama Idolize Turkey?s Racist Prime Minister?




WHAT?????

HE SAY WHAAAAAAAATTTT????


Wait 'til Holder hears about this!!!



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Is Turkey a US ally?

1. "On March 1, 2003, the Turkish parliament rejected a resolution authorizing the
deployment of U.S. forces to Turkey to open a northern front in a war against Iraq."
Iraq: Turkey, the Deployment of U.S. Forces, and Related Issues

Put a crimp in the US military operations against Iraq.....

Ally?

My gawd - a country refused to allow an invading force, conduct an illegal war for WMD that did not exist so they're an enemy of America.

Sounds more like they're intelligent.
 
Is Turkey a US ally?

1. "On March 1, 2003, the Turkish parliament rejected a resolution authorizing the
deployment of U.S. forces to Turkey to open a northern front in a war against Iraq."
Iraq: Turkey, the Deployment of U.S. Forces, and Related Issues

Put a crimp in the US military operations against Iraq.....

Ally?


Well, now it's personal!

Check this out:

2. "Revolutionary Islamism is an innately anti-American and racist doctrine. Usually this manifests as anti-Semitic or anti-Christian views (since in the case of Islam, religion now seems to have been reintepreted as race when convenient), yet sometimes it arises in different but not highly publicized examples — such as with the racism employed against Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice in Palestinian and other Arabic newspaper cartoons.

3. ....Obama has endlessly flattered the radical Turkish leader Recep Erdogan, ignoring his insults and his subversion of U.S. interests. Obama presents Erdogan as his ideal Middle East leader, a “moderate Islamist,” and Obama has turned over U.S. Syria policy to Turkish regime direction.


4. .... the increasingly repressive Erdogan has publicly blamed the opposition to him on … a Jewish plot. Perhaps with the U.S. government supporting the Muslim Brotherhood, anti-Semitism is no longer a detriment to Obama administration backing.


[Get ready!]

5. But what does Erdogan really think of Obama?

6. ....Erdogan now is blaming him for the fall of Egypt’s government. As is customary, every Tuesday Erdogan addresses his AKP party group in the parliament. As usual, part of his speech was devoted to ridiculing Kemal Kilicdaroglu, leader of the opposition....



[Here it comes!!]


7..... this time, he ended that part of his speech with these words:

Kilicdaroglu is striving every bit he can to raise himself from the level of a black person (zenci in Turkish, which is the same as “negro”) to the level of a white man."
Rubin Reports » Why Does Obama Idolize Turkey?s Racist Prime Minister?




WHAT?????

HE SAY WHAAAAAAAATTTT????


Wait 'til Holder hears about this!!!



That's All Folks! (Best one on YouTube) - YouTube

You don't know shit about Turkey. Why don't you confine yourself to subjects of which you have some knowledge, if such a subject exists.
 
Is Turkey a US ally?

1. "On March 1, 2003, the Turkish parliament rejected a resolution authorizing the
deployment of U.S. forces to Turkey to open a northern front in a war against Iraq."
Iraq: Turkey, the Deployment of U.S. Forces, and Related Issues

Put a crimp in the US military operations against Iraq.....

Ally?


Well, now it's personal!

Check this out:

2. "Revolutionary Islamism is an innately anti-American and racist doctrine. Usually this manifests as anti-Semitic or anti-Christian views (since in the case of Islam, religion now seems to have been reintepreted as race when convenient), yet sometimes it arises in different but not highly publicized examples — such as with the racism employed against Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice in Palestinian and other Arabic newspaper cartoons.

3. ....Obama has endlessly flattered the radical Turkish leader Recep Erdogan, ignoring his insults and his subversion of U.S. interests. Obama presents Erdogan as his ideal Middle East leader, a “moderate Islamist,” and Obama has turned over U.S. Syria policy to Turkish regime direction.


4. .... the increasingly repressive Erdogan has publicly blamed the opposition to him on … a Jewish plot. Perhaps with the U.S. government supporting the Muslim Brotherhood, anti-Semitism is no longer a detriment to Obama administration backing.


[Get ready!]

5. But what does Erdogan really think of Obama?

6. ....Erdogan now is blaming him for the fall of Egypt’s government. As is customary, every Tuesday Erdogan addresses his AKP party group in the parliament. As usual, part of his speech was devoted to ridiculing Kemal Kilicdaroglu, leader of the opposition....



[Here it comes!!]


7..... this time, he ended that part of his speech with these words:

Kilicdaroglu is striving every bit he can to raise himself from the level of a black person (zenci in Turkish, which is the same as “negro”) to the level of a white man."
Rubin Reports » Why Does Obama Idolize Turkey?s Racist Prime Minister?




WHAT?????

HE SAY WHAAAAAAAATTTT????


Wait 'til Holder hears about this!!!



That's All Folks! (Best one on YouTube) - YouTube

You don't know shit about Turkey. Why don't you confine yourself to subjects of which you have some knowledge, if such a subject exists.





Trust this: I will roll you up and smoke you like a Cuban cigar.
 
Is Turkey a US ally?

1. "On March 1, 2003, the Turkish parliament rejected a resolution authorizing the
deployment of U.S. forces to Turkey to open a northern front in a war against Iraq."
Iraq: Turkey, the Deployment of U.S. Forces, and Related Issues

Put a crimp in the US military operations against Iraq.....

Ally?


Well, now it's personal!

Check this out:

2. "Revolutionary Islamism is an innately anti-American and racist doctrine. Usually this manifests as anti-Semitic or anti-Christian views (since in the case of Islam, religion now seems to have been reintepreted as race when convenient), yet sometimes it arises in different but not highly publicized examples — such as with the racism employed against Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice in Palestinian and other Arabic newspaper cartoons.

3. ....Obama has endlessly flattered the radical Turkish leader Recep Erdogan, ignoring his insults and his subversion of U.S. interests. Obama presents Erdogan as his ideal Middle East leader, a “moderate Islamist,” and Obama has turned over U.S. Syria policy to Turkish regime direction.


4. .... the increasingly repressive Erdogan has publicly blamed the opposition to him on … a Jewish plot. Perhaps with the U.S. government supporting the Muslim Brotherhood, anti-Semitism is no longer a detriment to Obama administration backing.


[Get ready!]

5. But what does Erdogan really think of Obama?

6. ....Erdogan now is blaming him for the fall of Egypt’s government. As is customary, every Tuesday Erdogan addresses his AKP party group in the parliament. As usual, part of his speech was devoted to ridiculing Kemal Kilicdaroglu, leader of the opposition....



[Here it comes!!]


7..... this time, he ended that part of his speech with these words:

Kilicdaroglu is striving every bit he can to raise himself from the level of a black person (zenci in Turkish, which is the same as “negro”) to the level of a white man."
Rubin Reports » Why Does Obama Idolize Turkey?s Racist Prime Minister?




WHAT?????

HE SAY WHAAAAAAAATTTT????


Wait 'til Holder hears about this!!!



That's All Folks! (Best one on YouTube) - YouTube

You don't know shit about Turkey. Why don't you confine yourself to subjects of which you have some knowledge, if such a subject exists.





Trust this: I will roll you up and smoke you like a Cuban cigar.

Are you threatening me? Wow, aren't you scary. Must feel so good inside to be a bully. You don't know anything about Turkey. Period. Start a thread about something you are informed about. Simple. And stop threatening people; makes you look like a total asshole.
 
You don't know shit about Turkey. Why don't you confine yourself to subjects of which you have some knowledge, if such a subject exists.





Trust this: I will roll you up and smoke you like a Cuban cigar.

Are you threatening me? Wow, aren't you scary. Must feel so good inside to be a bully. You don't know anything about Turkey. Period. Start a thread about something you are informed about. Simple. And stop threatening people; makes you look like a total asshole.

"And stop....blah blah blah...."

I'm going to teach you civility: you'll get what you give.




Esmerelda is far from the appropriate name.

You should have settled on 'Djali'.....the goat.
 
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White Turks and Black Turks

White Turks (Turkish: Beyaz Türkler) is a term used in Turkey for the urban Republican elite. White Turks are in an imaginary contrast to the so-called Black Turks (Kara Türkler or Siyah Türkler), a name for the more Islamic among Anatolian Turks. The two terms are related to the emergence of a middle class since the end of the 20th Century, and is an expression of elite consciousness and also a contempt for a section of the population which is perceived as backward. Civilizing efforts were part of the imagination of all Turkish elites since the Tanzimat reforms.

These terms were originally coined by the journalist Ufuk Güldemir is in his 1992 book "Teksas Malatya". The term "White Turks" was meant to be analogous to the American White Anglo-Saxon Protestant, and was used to describe an old elite who opposed the then-Prime Minister Turgut Ozal because of his Kurdish origin, religiousness and lack of military service. The term was subsequently taken up by the sociologist Nilufer Gole, popularized by Turkish columnists, journalists and political scientists by using it to refer to various social groups in Turkey.

In an ironic approach to the conceptual pair, Mümim Sekman wrote in his 2001 book "Türk Usulü Başarı" that, among other things, Black Turks listen to Arabesque music, while White Turks prefer western music; Black Turks would have arranged marriages, while White Turks chose their own partners; White Turks would meet at airports, while Black Turks used bus terminals. The chief editor of Hurriyet, Ertugrul Ozkok, considers himself part of the White Turks and describes this group as follows: "They live mainly in coastal regions, are sensitive when it comes to secularism, they drink alcohol, have a high purchasing power, a western lifestyle and the women do not wear headscarves". The Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan described himself as a Black Turk.

Some observers, such as Ayşe Sözen and Nilüfer Narlı, also note the emergence of a third group of "Grey Turks", who are urbanized, well-educated and enjoy western music and films, but are pious Muslims.

White Turks and Black Turks - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
White Turks and Black Turks - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

He simply means, that the opposition leader who comes from humble background is becoming an Elistist snob.

Now you know.




Seems like you're trying to spin this in a way favorable to Erdoğan.....



According to the on-line translations, it means black in a deprecating way.

"n. African, black, blackamoor, negro, blackie, blacky, buck, coon, crow, darky, sambo, uncle, Jim Crow, moke, spade, ******

adj. black, African, colored, coloured [Brit.], negro, negroid"
Zenci - Turkish to English Translation
 
^^^ Incorrect.....read my post #11 above.

It's about the division between liberal/westernized vs. conservative/traditional Turks.

And is not based on race. .. :cool:
 
You don't know shit about Turkey. Why don't you confine yourself to subjects of which you have some knowledge, if such a subject exists.
Trust this: I will roll you up and smoke you like a Cuban cigar.
Are you threatening me? Wow, aren't you scary. Must feel so good inside to be a bully. You don't know anything about Turkey. Period. Start a thread about something you are informed about. Simple. And stop threatening people; makes you look like a total asshole.
Esmeralda, you should probably make a "Call Out" thread for Political Chick and straighten her out. :D
 
White Turks and Black Turks - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

He simply means, that the opposition leader who comes from humble background is becoming an Elistist snob.

Now you know.




Seems like you're trying to spin this in a way favorable to Erdoğan.....



According to the on-line translations, it means black in a deprecating way.

"n. African, black, blackamoor, negro, blackie, blacky, buck, coon, crow, darky, sambo, uncle, Jim Crow, moke, spade, ******

adj. black, African, colored, coloured [Brit.], negro, negroid"
Zenci - Turkish to English Translation

That's funny because the first word that comes up here is Black and then the other words are used in a different manner. Google Translate

merhaba benim Türk kardeşlerim!
 

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