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Why didn't he just stay inside, with his shotgun by his side and call the cops?
Because when seconds count the cops are minutes away. Furthermore, the cops have no legal obligation to respond with aid.
If your dumb enough to walk into someones personal property, your dumb enough to be shot. You know, it's really not all that difficult avoiding being shot like this.
-Geaux
So, now people deserve to be shot for being dumb? And you people say you aren't blood thirsty.
Because when seconds count the cops are minutes away. Furthermore, the cops have no legal obligation to respond with aid.
If your dumb enough to walk into someones personal property, your dumb enough to be shot. You know, it's really not all that difficult avoiding being shot like this.
-Geaux
So, now people deserve to be shot for being dumb? And you people say you aren't blood thirsty.
You may not deserve it, but you are risking it. And the risk is all on the trespasser, because you are TRESSPASSING.
So, now people deserve to be shot for being dumb? And you people say you aren't blood thirsty.
You may not deserve it, but you are risking it. And the risk is all on the trespasser, because you are TRESSPASSING.
In the US, the legal penalty for trespassing is not death. Why are you folks so anxious to murder people?
You don't understand the laws or what the words trespassing or murder means. You are either lying or stunningly ill informed.In the US, the legal penalty for trespassing is not death. Why are you folks so anxious to murder people?
You don't understand the laws or what the words trespassing or murder means. You are either lying or stunningly ill informed.In the US, the legal penalty for trespassing is not death. Why are you folks so anxious to murder people?
No one but anti-gun nuts made that argument. They do it out of stupidity or malice.You don't understand the laws or what the words trespassing or murder means. You are either lying or stunningly ill informed.In the US, the legal penalty for trespassing is not death. Why are you folks so anxious to murder people?
Where in the US is simple trespassing a crime for which the legal punishment is the death penalty? Please cite the exact statute.
No one but anti-gun nuts made that argument. They do it out of stupidity or malice.You don't understand the laws or what the words trespassing or murder means. You are either lying or stunningly ill informed.
Where in the US is simple trespassing a crime for which the legal punishment is the death penalty? Please cite the exact statute.
Many states have enacted so-called stand your ground laws that remove the duty to retreat before using force in self-defense. Florida passed the first such law in 2005, generally allowing people to stand their ground instead of retreating if they reasonably believe doing so will "prevent death or great bodily harm."
Other states followed with laws specifically affirming one's right to defend themselves, even outside of their homes and with deadly force if necessary. The wording of each state's laws will vary, but typically require you to have the right to be at a location. State self-defense laws may also overlap, but generally fall into three general categories:
Stand Your Ground: No duty to retreat from the situation before resorting to deadly force; not limited to your property (home, office, etc.).
Castle Doctrine: Limited to real property, such as your home, yard, or private office; no duty to retreat (use of deadly force against intruders is legal in most situations); some states, like Missouri and Ohio, even include personal vehicles.
Duty to Retreat: Must retreat from the situation if you feel threatened (use of deadly force is considered a last resort); may not use deadly force if you are safely inside your home.
Here are the states that have passed stand your ground laws:
States That Have Stand Your Ground Laws - FindLaw
Many states have enacted so-called stand your ground laws that remove the duty to retreat before using force in self-defense. Florida passed the first such law in 2005, generally allowing people to stand their ground instead of retreating if they reasonably believe doing so will "prevent death or great bodily harm."
Other states followed with laws specifically affirming one's right to defend themselves, even outside of their homes and with deadly force if necessary. The wording of each state's laws will vary, but typically require you to have the right to be at a location. State self-defense laws may also overlap, but generally fall into three general categories:
Stand Your Ground: No duty to retreat from the situation before resorting to deadly force; not limited to your property (home, office, etc.).
Castle Doctrine: Limited to real property, such as your home, yard, or private office; no duty to retreat (use of deadly force against intruders is legal in most situations); some states, like Missouri and Ohio, even include personal vehicles.
Duty to Retreat: Must retreat from the situation if you feel threatened (use of deadly force is considered a last resort); may not use deadly force if you are safely inside your home.
Here are the states that have passed stand your ground laws:
States That Have Stand Your Ground Laws - FindLaw
States That Have Stand Your Ground Laws - FindLaw
Markus Kaarma, Montana man, pleads not guilty in shooting death of German exchange student - CBS News
Suspect in German exchange student killing pleads not guilty.
Another unarmed teenanger is sacraficed to the pro-gun pitbull grip on a literal interpretation of the 2nd Amendment.
American is the only modern Western country where unarmed burglary seems to warrant a death sentence.
Many states have enacted so-called stand your ground laws that remove the duty to retreat before using force in self-defense. Florida passed the first such law in 2005, generally allowing people to stand their ground instead of retreating if they reasonably believe doing so will "prevent death or great bodily harm."
Other states followed with laws specifically affirming one's right to defend themselves, even outside of their homes and with deadly force if necessary. The wording of each state's laws will vary, but typically require you to have the right to be at a location. State self-defense laws may also overlap, but generally fall into three general categories:
Stand Your Ground: No duty to retreat from the situation before resorting to deadly force; not limited to your property (home, office, etc.).
Castle Doctrine: Limited to real property, such as your home, yard, or private office; no duty to retreat (use of deadly force against intruders is legal in most situations); some states, like Missouri and Ohio, even include personal vehicles.
Duty to Retreat: Must retreat from the situation if you feel threatened (use of deadly force is considered a last resort); may not use deadly force if you are safely inside your home.
Here are the states that have passed stand your ground laws:
States That Have Stand Your Ground Laws - FindLaw
States That Have Stand Your Ground Laws - FindLaw
There is no 'reasonable' belief in this situation of death or bodily harm.
All the homeowner had to do was lock the door between the garage and the house and call the police.
He's going to spend a long, long time in prison. He lives in a state with the Castle Doctrine: use of deadly force is considered a last resort. This was not a last resort situation.
Many states have enacted so-called stand your ground laws that remove the duty to retreat before using force in self-defense. Florida passed the first such law in 2005, generally allowing people to stand their ground instead of retreating if they reasonably believe doing so will "prevent death or great bodily harm."
Other states followed with laws specifically affirming one's right to defend themselves, even outside of their homes and with deadly force if necessary. The wording of each state's laws will vary, but typically require you to have the right to be at a location. State self-defense laws may also overlap, but generally fall into three general categories:
Stand Your Ground: No duty to retreat from the situation before resorting to deadly force; not limited to your property (home, office, etc.).
Castle Doctrine: Limited to real property, such as your home, yard, or private office; no duty to retreat (use of deadly force against intruders is legal in most situations); some states, like Missouri and Ohio, even include personal vehicles.
Duty to Retreat: Must retreat from the situation if you feel threatened (use of deadly force is considered a last resort); may not use deadly force if you are safely inside your home.
Here are the states that have passed stand your ground laws:
States That Have Stand Your Ground Laws - FindLaw
States That Have Stand Your Ground Laws - FindLaw
There is no 'reasonable' belief in this situation of death or bodily harm. All the homeowner had to do was lock the door between the garage and the house and call the police. He's going to spend a long, long time in prison. He lives in a state with the Castle Doctrine: use of deadly force is considered a last resort. This was not a last resort situation.
No one but anti-gun nuts made that argument. They do it out of stupidity or malice.You don't understand the laws or what the words trespassing or murder means. You are either lying or stunningly ill informed.
Where in the US is simple trespassing a crime for which the legal punishment is the death penalty? Please cite the exact statute.
The death was completely avoidable by the simple act on the part of the thief to not steal.
There is no 'reasonable' belief in this situation of death or bodily harm. All the homeowner had to do was lock the door between the garage and the house and call the police. He's going to spend a long, long time in prison. He lives in a state with the Castle Doctrine: use of deadly force is considered a last resort. This was not a last resort situation.
i don't disagree as i haven't even read the story.
you'd think a guy with a gun could just lock his door and call the police...
generally, i think people should have a duty to retreat unless they are imminently threatened. SYG law leaves citizens vulnerable to the whims of paranoid feelings...
The death was completely avoidable by the simple act on the part of the thief to not steal.
citizens don't get to be judge and jury and the legal penalty for theft is not death.
Markus Kaarma, Montana man, pleads not guilty in shooting death of German exchange student - CBS News
Suspect in German exchange student killing pleads not guilty.
Another unarmed teenanger is sacraficed to the pro-gun pitbull grip on a literal interpretation of the 2nd Amendment.
American is the only modern Western country where unarmed burglary seems to warrant a death sentence.
Nothing to see here, just Darwin cleaning out the gene pool of retards.
You don't prank sneaking into strangers garages in the middle of the fucking night.
What a stupid shit, and it is no wonder that a cretin like you would sympathize with this little fucktard, Esmerelda.
The death was completely avoidable by the simple act on the part of the thief to not steal.
No one but anti-gun nuts made that argument. They do it out of stupidity or malice.Where in the US is simple trespassing a crime for which the legal punishment is the death penalty? Please cite the exact statute.
Malice.
IT's another 'gotcha' by the fascist gun grabbing retards trying to illustrate their claim about how dangerous guns are, but it actually tells most people what loons the gun grabbers are instead.
If I hear someone in my garage at night and they are hiding and wont come out into plain sight I have to make a decision based on what I know.
1) Why is this person here if not to do me harm? Why would I think it is some jack ass trying to prank me? Why would/should I risk my life and my families life on the assumption that the hiding person is NOT trying to do me harm?
2) Why wont this person give up and come out? This makes me even more convinced of the strong likelihood they intend harm.
3) Are they near objects that can be used as weapons? Is this person within 20 feet of me and could rush me and knock me out? Most garages are small enough that 20 feet is likely, and they could have taken a tool from the tool bench like a hammer or nail gun to use as a weapon.
4) Do they have any plausible right to be in my garage in the middle of the night?
Given those details I would shoot at the person if they did not come out and do exactly as I tell them to.
They have no right to put me in that situation and if they don't comply they will wish they did.
