Universal Basic Income: Biden's Best Bet?

[justinacolmena]

That "cuts the ice" every time its properly done.

That's a situation of doing something yourself when you want it done right.

I don't presume to fully support anyone except myself and my family.

Then don't take credit for supporting people you are doing nothing to help.

No mention of individual welfare there.

So is that why people have to flash a wedding ring every time they buy or sell property in a Communist district?

4:36 And Joses, who by the apostles was surnamed Barnabas, (which is, being interpreted, The son of consolation,) a Levite, and of the country of Cyprus,

37 Having land, sold it, and brought the money, and laid it at the apostles' feet.

5:1 But a certain man named Ananias, with Sapphira his wife, sold a possession,

2 And kept back part of the price, his wife also being privy to it, and brought a certain part, and laid it at the apostles' feet.

3 But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land?

4 Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God.

5 And Ananias hearing these words fell down, and gave up the ghost: and great fear came on all them that heard these things.

6 And the young men arose, wound him up, and carried him out, and buried him.

7 And it was about the space of three hours after, when his wife, not knowing what was done, came in.

8 And Peter answered unto her, Tell me whether ye sold the land for so much? And she said, Yea, for so much.

9 Then Peter said unto her, How is it that ye have agreed together to tempt the Spirit of the Lord? behold, the feet of them which have buried thy husband are at the door, and shall carry thee out.

10 Then fell she down straightway at his feet, and yielded up the ghost: and the young men came in, and found her dead, and, carrying her forth, buried her by her husband.

 

[Orangecat]

Our welfare clause is General not individual,

So why do you think individuals should get a monthly stipend under it?

 

[Orangecat]

Then don't take credit for supporting people you are doing nothing to help.

I haven't done that. Do you have me confused with someone else?

 

[Orangecat]

4:36 And Joses, who by the apostles was surnamed Barnabas, (which is, being interpreted, The son of consolation,) a Levite, and of the country of Cyprus,

37 Having land, sold it, and brought the money, and laid it at the apostles' feet.

5:1 But a certain man named Ananias, with Sapphira his wife, sold a possession,

2 And kept back part of the price, his wife also being privy to it, and brought a certain part, and laid it at the apostles' feet.

3 But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land?

4 Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God.

5 And Ananias hearing these words fell down, and gave up the ghost: and great fear came on all them that heard these things.

6 And the young men arose, wound him up, and carried him out, and buried him.

7 And it was about the space of three hours after, when his wife, not knowing what was done, came in.

8 And Peter answered unto her, Tell me whether ye sold the land for so much? And she said, Yea, for so much.

9 Then Peter said unto her, How is it that ye have agreed together to tempt the Spirit of the Lord? behold, the feet of them which have buried thy husband are at the door, and shall carry thee out.

10 Then fell she down straightway at his feet, and yielded up the ghost: and the young men came in, and found her dead, and, carrying her forth, buried her by her husband.

Irrelevant religibabble.

 

[georgephillip]

And, I agree to disagree that military spending is better than infrastructure spending as a Government means of production.

If I understand the concept correctly, military spending is more useful to modern economies dominated by big business. Apparently, blowing things up on the opposite side of the planet doesn't compete with elite capitalist interests in the same way as domestic spending (like infrastructure) does. There's also the additional benefits of imperialism like controlling the natural resources of other sovereign states. MAGA yet?

 

[danielpalos]

Our welfare clause is General not individual,

So why do you think individuals should get a monthly stipend under it?

I don't. In this case promoting the general welfare means fixing Government policy so it does its job for the general welfare not the general badfare.

 

[Orangecat]

I don't. In this case promoting the general welfare means fixing Government policy so it does its job for the general welfare not the general badfare.

If you don't think individuals should be supported, why are you advocating unemployment insurance as a cure for poverty?

 

[danielpalos]

And, I agree to disagree that military spending is better than infrastructure spending as a Government means of production.

If I understand the concept correctly, military spending is more useful to modern economies dominated by big business. Apparently, blowing things up on the opposite side of the planet doesn't compete with elite capitalist interests in the same way as domestic spending (like infrastructure) does. There's also the additional benefits of imperialism like controlling the natural resources of other sovereign states. MAGA yet?

The right wing alleges that,

“I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents.”
― James Madison

whenever it is about the general welfare but not the general warfare.

 

[danielpalos]

I don't. In this case promoting the general welfare means fixing Government policy so it does its job for the general welfare not the general badfare.

If you don't think individuals should be supported, why are you advocating unemployment insurance as a cure for poverty?

It is about General operation of the law for the General welfare.

 

[justinacolmena]

Irrelevant religibabble.

Official state atheism is part of it, isn't it?
100% Marxist party line, hard at work to destroy and annihilate the U.S. Constitution everywhere.
Trump isn't the "orange man" anymore, is he?
That's Xi Jinping?

 

[Wyatt earp]

And, I agree to disagree that military spending is better than infrastructure spending as a Government means of production.

If I understand the concept correctly, military spending is more useful to modern economies dominated by big business. Apparently, blowing things up on the opposite side of the planet doesn't compete with elite capitalist interests in the same way as domestic spending (like infrastructure) does. There's also the additional benefits of imperialism like controlling the natural resources of other sovereign states. MAGA yet?

Wrong the highway system was created for war against the USSR.

 

[Orangecat]

It is about General operation of the law for the General welfare.

Do you believe people should receive money from the government for doing nothing?

 

[Orangecat]

Official state atheism is part of it, isn't it?
100% Marxist party line, hard at work to destroy and annihilate the U.S. Constitution everywhere.
Trump isn't the "orange man" anymore, is he?
That's Xi Jinping?

You sound like a whack-job.

 

[danielpalos]

It is about General operation of the law for the General welfare.

Do you believe people should receive money from the government for doing nothing?

You are begging the question. I could say, only if CEOs have to work hard and with the sweat of their brow even in the summer time.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Almost everyone's aware of Alaska's Permanent Fund:

"...The program began in 1976 after the discovery of oil on Alaska’s North Slope.

"The then-governor, a renegade Republican named Jay Hammond, concluded that this windfall was too good to just give to the oil companies.

"So he devised the program to share the revenue with Alaska residents...."

"OK, here’s the idea for President-elect Biden:

"Bring 20 of the Trumpiest-looking Alaskans to a press conference.

"Unveil a plan whereby every man, woman, and child gets a $1,000 check every month from the government.

"Finance it with taxes on large wealth, fossil fuels, financial transactions, and intellectual property resulting from taxpayer-funded public research.

"Invite the Alaskans to describe the joy of getting their checks: no middleman, no means tests, no government forms to fill out—just free money as everyone’s share of the American commons.

"Dare Mitch McConnell to oppose it."

A Big, Simple, Winning Issue for Biden

The "American commons" are the cultural and natural resources accessible to all members of society. In a time when the privileged few expand their vast fortunes despite a global pandemic and recession, it seems fitting to socialize the profits and privatize the losses.

Does anyone believe "Delaware Joe" will turn on his corporate benefactors?

Universal Basic Income: Biden's Best Bet?

Best bet for what? Dumbest idea?

"Unveil a plan whereby every man, woman, and child gets a $1,000 check every month from the government.

Nah. Besides, Alaskans only got $992 this year.
Of course if you think we should drill in the ANWR and give some of that money to the people, I won't disagree.

"Finance it with taxes on large wealth, fossil fuels, financial transactions, and intellectual property resulting from taxpayer-funded public research.

What rate? Be specific.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

It is about General operation of the law for the General welfare.

Do you believe people should receive money from the government for doing nothing?

He does. That's all he does.

 

[Orangecat]

He does. That's all he does.

He seems dead-set against this weird "general warfare" thing. I'll assume he's a Trump supporter if he's really anti-war.

 

[danielpalos]

He does. That's all he does.

He seems dead-set against this weird "general warfare" thing. I'll assume he's a Trump supporter if he's really anti-war.

lol. there is no general warfare clause only a general welfare clause.

 

[Orangecat]

lol. there is no general warfare clause only a general welfare clause.

So why do you keep using the term "general warfare"? Just because you think it's a clever variation of "general welfare"?

 

[22lcidw]

And, I agree to disagree that military spending is better than infrastructure spending as a Government means of production.

If I understand the concept correctly, military spending is more useful to modern economies dominated by big business. Apparently, blowing things up on the opposite side of the planet doesn't compete with elite capitalist interests in the same way as domestic spending (like infrastructure) does. There's also the additional benefits of imperialism like controlling the natural resources of other sovereign states. MAGA yet?

Wrong the highway system was created for war against the USSR.

Make sure they are all toll roads with ornery toll takers.