Unnamed Cain abuser WORKS IN BARRY's admin!

[paperview]

Actually from what I found, he did through the "Federalist Papers". American history has always been a subject that I personally enjoy, particularly Civil War and then Revolutionary War are my two favorite periods of history.

Check out this site as one that focuses on Thomas Jefferson:
The Big Apple: “When the people fear the government, you have tyranny”

It's nice to see someone else that also has an interest with our Founders. I'd be interested in what strong reviews books you have obtained surrounding any of our Founding Fathers as well.

Hey dodo. He never said it, and if you knew so much about history and/or Jefferson, you'd know Jefferson never wrote the Federalist papers.

Yoiu might also want to check out the 1825 letter he had written to William Short if you require yet another source. I am quite sure, however, you would have no problem with stating who it was the source of such a quotation comes from? Care to reveal your sources?

Maybe you should read your own damn link.

And Monticello is the single absolute best site to determine authenticity fof a Jefferson quote. Bar none./

 

[MikeK]

[So if I got four women together and claim that when they were in Chicago, Obama approached each one of them separately, without witnesses around and asked them for sex for cash....he should be disqualified for the 2012 election?

Or should there be proof first?

FYI...do a liottle research....you will find that the pattern of employees as a collective are affected by the actions of one.

If one kisses butt and gets a promotion, many start to kiss butt.

If one uses all sick days and still gets the same raise as evceryone else, all will use all sick days next year.

If one claims harrassment and gets a settlement, others will try for the easy money as well.

It is called....HUMAN NATURE.

So the fact that there were 3 in one company means nothing.......

You need to understand that paying a cash settlement to suppress a sexual harassment charge is a virtual admission of guilt. So the only time a substantial settlement is paid is when there is sufficient evidence to support the charge. If this were not true there would be scores of women (and men) lined up to lodge false harassment charges against every candidate for public office from local assemblies to the presidency.

So you may rest assured the Kingfish is far from innocent of the charges. The settlements which were paid to his accusers are admissions of guilt.

 

[ShaklesOfBigGov]

Hey dodo. He never said it, and if you knew so much about history and/or Jefferson, you'd know Jefferson never wrote the Federalist papers.

Yoiu might also want to check out the 1825 letter he had written to William Short if you require yet another source. I am quite sure, however, you would have no problem with stating who it was the source of such a quotation comes from? Care to reveal your sources?

Maybe you should read your own damn link.

And Monticello is the single absolute best site to determine authenticity fof a Jefferson quote. Bar none./

When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.”
Variations:
“When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.”
“Does the government fear us? Or do we fear the government? When the people fear the government, tyranny has found victory. The federal government is our servant, not our master!”
Sources consulted: Searching on the phrase “fear the people,” “government fear us,” “fear the government,” “tyranny has found victory,” and “government is our servant”
1. Papers of Thomas Jefferson Digital Edition 2. Monticello website
3, Ford’s Works of Thomas Jefferson 4. UVA EText Jefferson Digital Archive: Jeffersonian Cyclopedia, Thomas Jefferson on Politics and Government, Texts by or to Thomas Jefferson from the Modern English Collection
5. Thomas Jefferson Retirement Papers
6. Quotable Jefferson, ed. Kaminski (searching under “tyranny")


Shall I continue, or do you have sources of your own to provide?

 

[paperview]

Yoiu might also want to check out the 1825 letter he had written to William Short if you require yet another source. I am quite sure, however, you would have no problem with stating who it was the source of such a quotation comes from? Care to reveal your sources?

Maybe you should read your own damn link.

And Monticello is the single absolute best site to determine authenticity fof a Jefferson quote. Bar none./

When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.”
Variations:
“When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.”
“Does the government fear us? Or do we fear the government? When the people fear the government, tyranny has found victory. The federal government is our servant, not our master!”
Sources consulted: Searching on the phrase “fear the people,” “government fear us,” “fear the government,” “tyranny has found victory,” and “government is our servant”
1. Papers of Thomas Jefferson Digital Edition 2. Monticello website
3, Ford’s Works of Thomas Jefferson 4. UVA EText Jefferson Digital Archive: Jeffersonian Cyclopedia, Thomas Jefferson on Politics and Government, Texts by or to Thomas Jefferson from the Modern English Collection
5. Thomas Jefferson Retirement Papers
6. Quotable Jefferson, ed. Kaminski (searching under “tyranny")


Shall I continue, or do you have sources of your own to provide?

Shall you continue with what?

Do you even understand how the term variations is used there?

 

[ShaklesOfBigGov]

Maybe you should read your own damn link.

And Monticello is the single absolute best site to determine authenticity fof a Jefferson quote. Bar none./

When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.”
Variations:
“When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.”
“Does the government fear us? Or do we fear the government? When the people fear the government, tyranny has found victory. The federal government is our servant, not our master!”
Sources consulted: Searching on the phrase “fear the people,” “government fear us,” “fear the government,” “tyranny has found victory,” and “government is our servant”
1. Papers of Thomas Jefferson Digital Edition 2. Monticello website
3, Ford’s Works of Thomas Jefferson 4. UVA EText Jefferson Digital Archive: Jeffersonian Cyclopedia, Thomas Jefferson on Politics and Government, Texts by or to Thomas Jefferson from the Modern English Collection
5. Thomas Jefferson Retirement Papers
6. Quotable Jefferson, ed. Kaminski (searching under “tyranny")


Shall I continue, or do you have sources of your own to provide?

Shall you continue with what?

Do you even understand how the term variations is used there?

Provide for me the true author of the quote in a link and I will conceed, as everything I found points to Thomas Jefferson. I will waste no more time on this thread unless you provide a sourced link behind who actually written that quote.

 

[paperview]

When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.”
Variations:
“When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.”
“Does the government fear us? Or do we fear the government? When the people fear the government, tyranny has found victory. The federal government is our servant, not our master!”
Sources consulted: Searching on the phrase “fear the people,” “government fear us,” “fear the government,” “tyranny has found victory,” and “government is our servant”
1. Papers of Thomas Jefferson Digital Edition 2. Monticello website
3, Ford’s Works of Thomas Jefferson 4. UVA EText Jefferson Digital Archive: Jeffersonian Cyclopedia, Thomas Jefferson on Politics and Government, Texts by or to Thomas Jefferson from the Modern English Collection
5. Thomas Jefferson Retirement Papers
6. Quotable Jefferson, ed. Kaminski (searching under “tyranny")


Shall I continue, or do you have sources of your own to provide?

Shall you continue with what?

Do you even understand how the term variations is used there?

Provide for me the true author of the quote in a link and I will conceed, as everything I found points to Thomas Jefferson. I will waste no more time on this thread unless you provide a sourced link behind who actually written that quote.

The Monticello website has it, and YOUR OWN DAMN LINK says it:

"To date however, the most likely source of this quotation appears to be a series of debates on socialism published in 1914, in which John Basil Barnhill said, “Where the people fear the government you have tyranny. Where the government fears the people you have liberty."

Jezus Christ. Didn't you even bother to read it?

 

[freedombecki]

5th accuser

 

[kwc57]

What would the right thing be? It's civil law, not criminal.

you are missing the point...

Re-read the article.

Her friends and family are saying she simply wants to do the right thing and let people know about Cain.

They continue to talk about her attrinbutes...reliable, honest, etc.

Yet...in the article....

she accepted a monetary settlement to not say anything.....

Which means that her personal greed trumped her desire to "do the right thing"

Now....I am not saying I wouldnt have done the same....but then people would not be able to say that I am the type that would want to do the "right thing"

At the time of occurrence Cain was not a public figure so the right thing at that time was to punish him for his humiliating offense. And a substantial cash settlement, which might be regarded as a punitive fine, did exactly that. But since Kingfish Cain's status has significantly changed, so has the meaning of "right thing" in his example. Because Cain has become an important public figure the right thing to do now is to expose him, which is what she's done.

This woman is complainant number four, which suggests a pattern in Cain's behavior, which in turn compels the reasoning mind to assume there are more who have not yet come forward or won't come forward for one reason or another.

Keep in mind there are several presidential candidates but only Cain has had four women credibly accuse him of an unacceptably offensive behavioral propensity, a circumstance which should disqualify him.

Cain ran for office in 2000 and 2004 and no one made so much as a peep about him to "do the right thing" and expose him. Now they do. Why is that, especially when they took hush money and signed an agreement for such a small amount? Perhaps someone smells opportunity.

 

[kwc57]

5th accuser

You've got to be kidding! That's pretty weak.

 

[kwc57]

[So if I got four women together and claim that when they were in Chicago, Obama approached each one of them separately, without witnesses around and asked them for sex for cash....he should be disqualified for the 2012 election?

Or should there be proof first?

FYI...do a liottle research....you will find that the pattern of employees as a collective are affected by the actions of one.

If one kisses butt and gets a promotion, many start to kiss butt.

If one uses all sick days and still gets the same raise as evceryone else, all will use all sick days next year.

If one claims harrassment and gets a settlement, others will try for the easy money as well.

It is called....HUMAN NATURE.

So the fact that there were 3 in one company means nothing.......

You need to understand that paying a cash settlement to suppress a sexual harassment charge is a virtual admission of guilt. So the only time a substantial settlement is paid is when there is sufficient evidence to support the charge. If this were not true there would be scores of women (and men) lined up to lodge false harassment charges against every candidate for public office from local assemblies to the presidency.

So you may rest assured the Kingfish is far from innocent of the charges. The settlements which were paid to his accusers are admissions of guilt.

Please tell me that you don't practice law, because I pity your clients if you do. And you certainly haven't spent much time in a sizable business where complaints come in regularly have you. My brother manages a company. He had a deadbeat driver of a route truck who was taking his truck and parking it to goof off. They caught him by installing GPS units in all of the trucks in the fleet and could see him sitting parked for hours at a time while he claimed he was working. They went to fire him and he pulled the race card and claimed they were firing him because he was Native American. Even though they had proof of why he was being fired, they didn't want to get tangled up in court dates and legal fees. They paid him to go away because it was cheaper. Happens every day.

 

[del]

I like Cain. I'd vote for him. And I have issues regarding the media running allegations for which they seem to have exceptionally thin 'evidence'.

However, making up shit about his 'accusers' is not helpful. She does not 'work for the Obama Administration'... she works for the federal government. So what?

It does appear - note the word 'appear' that a bunch of her friends are trying to get her side out so she can maintain her 'dignified silence' and I have issues about that... but I don't think it is helpful for the right to bullshit about her any more than it is helpful for the left to lie about Cain.

Oh really?? Working in the Treasury Department isn't working for this Administration? Since when?

since ever?

my mailman is an obama plant.

i'm ascared.


very ascared.

 

[Ravi]

Oh really?? Working in the Treasury Department isn't working for this Administration? Since when?

since ever?

my mailman is an obama plant.

i'm ascared.


very ascared.

Is it Harry Dresden?

You should be scared.

 

[rdean]

As if Obama would want to get involved in this mess. Hilarious!

 

[frazzledgear]

?SHE IS VERY RELIABLE? - WWW.THEDAILY.COM


Bunch of sick fucks.. can you say backfired????

Let me see. How does this relate to the fact reporters are now admitting the source who set them up to do this story in the first place is none other than Rahm Emmanuel, long time filth monger for Barack Obama? And not coincidentally the mayor of Chicago -where INCREDIBLY the woman claiming to be the most recent victim of Cain's vicious sexual assault was "discovered"!! How CONVENIENT and what an AMAZING "coincidence", huh? How does all this figure in with the FACT Obama's and Emmanuel's "go to" campaign strategy is to create and foment manufactured sex scandals against his opponent?

Know the odds for any politician that even ONE of his opponents over the course of his entire career will be felled by a sex scandal? Because for Obama it is nearly 100%!! If he is part of the equation the odds of falling victim to a manufactured sex scandal SKYROCKETS! In case people forget, they even tried it on McCain and it undoubtedly would have continued except the first woman they tried to rope into it refused to cooperate! It is what they do -or should we all just pretend this is just one of THE most AMAZING coincidences that nearly 100% of everyone Obama doesn't want on the ballot at all - end up suffering the IDENTICAL fate?

And even more of an amazing coincidence -every single time it followed the EXACT same pattern too! A steady stream of "victims" with an increasing escalation in the severity of their "claims" - until finally the opponent collapsed under the sheer weight of it where no amount of denials could possibly made any difference. And look HERE -we have them coming out in a steady stream making increasingly bizarre claims with an increasing severity in their claims -from really not doing anything at all except indicate his wife's height where some fruitcake thinks its reasonable to find that disturbing -to Gloria Allred taking her usual place as front and center slimeball with her typical media hungry liar client claiming to be the "poor victim" who was just seeking help only to be set upon by this MONSTER and became the victim of his aggressive and criminal sexual assault! Something she just couldn't bring herself to tell another living soul for more than a decade, certainly not when it happened when it was MOST relevant --until now of course when tv talk shows are clamoring and vying for her appearance! Ooh, ain't it just GRAND?

The steady stream of "victims" claiming increasingly severe "attacks" ONLY ends once the candidate QUITS -and then suddenly there is SILENCE and no more victims crawling out of the woodwork making any more "claims". Cain stands no chance now because this will continue until he quits or his support evaporates to unrecoverable levels -and quits. Because THIS is how they do it and this is how it works! Does anyone seriously believe Obama's opponents, one after another felled by this same stunt actually waited until their very last "victim" came forward before finally quitting? ROFL Of course not -Emmanuel and Obama simply let his opponent know it would NEVER end -NEVER -until they quit. And then and ONLY then -did it stop. In the meantime they left a wake of real victims in their wake - destroyed lives, careers, marriages and trust. Like they give a flying fuck about that though.

This is a tactic that has been perfected by Obama and Emmanuel and they are MASTERS at this -truly! This is a textbook performance, this is how its done, this is exactly how they did it against ANYONE Obama did not want to see on the ballot! How can Cain defend himself against what seasoned politicians could not once Rahm and Obama decided to destroy them? They already know how this one will end -and I suspect Cain knows it too now. Do NOT kid yourself about what you are seeing play out right in front of your eyes.

There is an ongoing attempt by the Obama administration and his hacks to manipulate the outcome of the Republican primaries because they intend to handpick the opponent they want. And he does NOT want to face Cain who proves everything Obama stands for is a fucking lie.

 

[Lakhota]

?SHE IS VERY RELIABLE? - WWW.THEDAILY.COM


Bunch of sick fucks.. can you say backfired????

Didn't she also work in the federal government prior to Obama? After all, she is a registered Republican - and her name is Karen Kraushaar.

 

[Chris]

DES MOINES, Iowa — A conservative Iowa radio host, who on Wednesday became the latest person to accuse Herman Cain of acting inappropriately toward women, declined to offer specifics about the presidential candidate’s behavior but suggested that Cain was “compromised in his private life.”

Steve Deace, who hosts a syndicated two-hour radio program in Iowa, said that two of his female staff members were subjected to “inappropriate and awkward” comments by Cain. But he refused to identify them or elaborate on the seriousness of the allegations.

After his show on Wednesday night, Deace held an impromptu press conference outside his Des Moines studio while his two female staff members rushed out of the building, escorted by two men who attempted to keep reporters away.

One of the women was identified to ABC News by an independent source as a victim of the behavior Deace mentioned. Both of the women repeatedly refused to comment on anything related to the controversy.

Deace, an influential conservative figure in the state, declined to say whether he had the women’s consent before going public with the allegations, but added, “As a staff we are very tight and we are very close and we share everything with one another.”

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politic...-herman-cain-compromised-in-his-private-life/

 

[The Infidel]

Obama Admin All But Refuses to Turn Over Subpoenaed Solyndra Documents | TheBlaze.com

 

[jgarden]

So now we have a 2nd HAG who has accused Mr. Cain that just so happens to work in Obama's Administration.. you liberals are a bunch of low life fuckers! This shit is going to hit the fan! LYNCHING of an innocent black man.. UNFUCKINGREAL.. sickos!

There are currently over 2 million civilian employees working for the federal government - what proof does "LadyGunSlinger" have to support her claim that Karen Kraushaar or anybody else is conspiring with the president to "LYNCH" an innocent blackman.

Ms. Kraushaar also obtained her current position in the government prior to Herman Cain becoming a presidential candidate, so there is no evidence that this was a "political appointment!"

 

[LadyGunSlinger]

So now we have a 2nd HAG who has accused Mr. Cain that just so happens to work in Obama's Administration.. you liberals are a bunch of low life fuckers! This shit is going to hit the fan! LYNCHING of an innocent black man.. UNFUCKINGREAL.. sickos!

There are currently over 2 million civilian employees working for the federal government - what proof does "LadyGunSlinger" have to support her claim that Karen Kraushaar or anybody else is conspiring with the president to "LYNCH" an innocent blackman.

Ms. Kraushaar also obtained her current position in the government prior to Herman Cain becoming a presidential candidate, so there is no evidence that this was a "political appointment!"

Try reading for a change. THE TREASURY DEPT headed up by TAX CHEAT TIM GEIHTNER hired her, 250 employees.. What don't you understand about this being an Administration appointee??? Lastly, you ask for proof( for which I provided) and here an innocent man stands accused WITH NO PROOF, ZERO.. Idiot.

 

[KissMy]

Cain accuser & her lawyer may be habitual extortionist sexual harassment complainers.

Cain Accuser filed another complaint in next job

A woman who settled a sexual harassment complaint against GOP presidential candidate Herman Cain in 1999 complained three years later at her next job about unfair treatment, saying she should be allowed to work from home after a serious car accident and accusing a manager of circulating a sexually charged email, The Associated Press has learned.

Karen Kraushaar, 55, filed the complaint while working as a spokeswoman at the Immigration and Naturalization Service in the Justice Department in late 2002 or early 2003, with the assistance of her lawyer, Joel Bennett, who also handled her earlier sexual harassment complaint against Cain in 1999. Three former supervisors familiar with Kraushaar's complaint, which did not include a claim of sexual harassment, described it for the AP under condition of anonymity because the matter was handled internally by the agency and was not public.

To settle the complaint at the immigration service, Kraushaar initially demanded thousands of dollars in payment, a reinstatement of leave she used after the accident earlier in 2002, promotion on the federal pay scale and a one-year fellowship to Harvard's Kennedy School of Government, according to a former supervisor familiar with the complaint. The promotion itself would have increased her annual salary between $12,000 and $16,000, according to salary tables in 2002 from the U.S. Office of Personnel Management.