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US Muslims are a key to identifying and elimination of homegrown terrorists.

US Muslims who can identify terrorists aren't doing so already? They need us to "embrace" them before they do the right thing? Is that really what you are saying? Because that's what it sounds like you are saying.
US Muslims who can identify terrorists aren't doing so already? They need us to "embrace" them before they do the right thing? Is that really what you are saying? Because that's what it sounds like you are saying.
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No, what I am saying is we need to provide an atmosphere where the Muslim community is very comfortable and trusting to work with the government and other citizens in turning in terrorists. If Muslims feel the government and others are against them. Like some of the idiots on this post saying we should deport all Muslims. These idiots are what ISIS wants all Muslims to think westerners are like. These idiots are playing into ISIS hands.

Comfortable? Like the neighbor of the terrorists who didn't report them for fear of being called racist? Oh wait. That was just some non Muslim.

You are saying AGAIN that we need to kiss every Muslim's ass to get them to do the right thing because, well, after all, some people want to deport them all. You are saying that we must convince Muslims that we westerners are not what ISIS says we are. Surely, good guy Muslims living here already know that, don't they?

Treat them the same way you would someone who wasn't Muslim.
That's my point. We are treating them like any other American. The OP seems to think we owe them something more.

I didn't get that out of the OP at all. If you want to get cooperation and help from people - don't alienate them with fears of registries, internment camps, religious id cards and a stripping of civil rights. Consider whether the virulant rhetoric of political people and media personalities contributes to an atmosphere of fear.
Oh. So if we don't talk about internment camps and ID cards etc, that'll cause American Muslims to be more forthcoming than last year when there was no talk of internment camps and ID cards etc.
 
US Muslims who can identify terrorists aren't doing so already? They need us to "embrace" them before they do the right thing? Is that really what you are saying? Because that's what it sounds like you are saying.
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No, what I am saying is we need to provide an atmosphere where the Muslim community is very comfortable and trusting to work with the government and other citizens in turning in terrorists. If Muslims feel the government and others are against them. Like some of the idiots on this post saying we should deport all Muslims. These idiots are what ISIS wants all Muslims to think westerners are like. These idiots are playing into ISIS hands.

Comfortable? Like the neighbor of the terrorists who didn't report them for fear of being called racist? Oh wait. That was just some non Muslim.

You are saying AGAIN that we need to kiss every Muslim's ass to get them to do the right thing because, well, after all, some people want to deport them all. You are saying that we must convince Muslims that we westerners are not what ISIS says we are. Surely, good guy Muslims living here already know that, don't they?

Treat them the same way you would someone who wasn't Muslim.
That's my point. We are treating them like any other American. The OP seems to think we owe them something more.

I didn't get that out of the OP at all. If you want to get cooperation and help from people - don't alienate them with fears of registries, internment camps, religious id cards and a stripping of civil rights. Consider whether the virulant rhetoric of political people and media personalities contributes to an atmosphere of fear.
Oh. So if we don't talk about internment camps and ID cards etc, that'll cause American Muslims to be more forthcoming than last year when there was no talk of internment camps and ID cards etc.

If you don't treat law abiding American citizens as "The Enemy" than that would certainly be a step in the right direction.
 
You remember that database Trump was talking about, I think every muslim should be voluntarily get into that database........
 
US Muslims who can identify terrorists aren't doing so already? They need us to "embrace" them before they do the right thing? Is that really what you are saying? Because that's what it sounds like you are saying.
US Muslims who can identify terrorists aren't doing so already? They need us to "embrace" them before they do the right thing? Is that really what you are saying? Because that's what it sounds like you are saying.
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No, what I am saying is we need to provide an atmosphere where the Muslim community is very comfortable and trusting to work with the government and other citizens in turning in terrorists. If Muslims feel the government and others are against them. Like some of the idiots on this post saying we should deport all Muslims. These idiots are what ISIS wants all Muslims to think westerners are like. These idiots are playing into ISIS hands.

Comfortable? Like the neighbor of the terrorists who didn't report them for fear of being called racist? Oh wait. That was just some non Muslim.

You are saying AGAIN that we need to kiss every Muslim's ass to get them to do the right thing because, well, after all, some people want to deport them all. You are saying that we must convince Muslims that we westerners are not what ISIS says we are. Surely, good guy Muslims living here already know that, don't they?

Treat them the same way you would someone who wasn't Muslim.
Exactly!
 
Comfortable? Like the neighbor of the terrorists who didn't report them for fear of being called racist? Oh wait. That was just some non Muslim.

You are saying AGAIN that we need to kiss every Muslim's ass to get them to do the right thing because, well, after all, some people want to deport them all. You are saying that we must convince Muslims that we westerners are not what ISIS says we are. Surely, good guy Muslims living here already know that, don't they?

Treat them the same way you would someone who wasn't Muslim.
That's my point. We are treating them like any other American. The OP seems to think we owe them something more.

I didn't get that out of the OP at all. If you want to get cooperation and help from people - don't alienate them with fears of registries, internment camps, religious id cards and a stripping of civil rights. Consider whether the virulant rhetoric of political people and media personalities contributes to an atmosphere of fear.
Oh. So if we don't talk about internment camps and ID cards etc, that'll cause American Muslims to be more forthcoming than last year when there was no talk of internment camps and ID cards etc.

If you don't treat law abiding American citizens as "The Enemy" than that would certainly be a step in the right direction.
You get it!
 
You remember that database Trump was talking about, I think every muslim should be voluntarily get into that database........

Why?

So the rest of the society is effected less.

If somebody should be picked up randomly at the airport checkpoint, this person should be a muslim by a high margin.

Really? Would you voluntarily register in a government database?
 
You remember that database Trump was talking about, I think every muslim should be voluntarily get into that database........

Why?

So the rest of the society is effected less.

If somebody should be picked up randomly at the airport checkpoint, this person should be a muslim by a high margin.

Really? Would you voluntarily register in a government database?

Yes, already applied....
 
You remember that database Trump was talking about, I think every muslim should be voluntarily get into that database........

Why?

So the rest of the society is effected less.

If somebody should be picked up randomly at the airport checkpoint, this person should be a muslim by a high margin.

Really? Would you voluntarily register in a government database?

Yes, already applied....

Is it a database that tracks you on the basis of your religion?
 
You remember that database Trump was talking about, I think every muslim should be voluntarily get into that database........

Your database would be fine with me...if all religious people had to register.
 
You remember that database Trump was talking about, I think every muslim should be voluntarily get into that database........

Your database would be fine with me...if all religious people had to register.

Why would they?

Is there a christian terrorist state supported and funded by other christin states all over the world?

But there is one islamist terrorist state funded and supported by other muslim states.

Why would a christian or a hindu or a jew, or a buddhist should be registering to any database, while profiling such religions would serve no purpose, while on the other hand profiling muslims, indeeeeeed, servers a very legit purpose at the end of the day.

Dont you think?
 
You remember that database Trump was talking about, I think every muslim should be voluntarily get into that database........

Your database would be fine with me...if all religious people had to register.

Why would they?

Is there a christian terrorist state supported and funded by other christin states all over the world?

But there is one islamist terrorist state funded and supported by other muslim states.

Why would a christian or a hindu or a jew, or a buddhist should be registering to any database, while profiling such religions would serve no purpose, while on the other hand profiling muslims, indeeeeeed, servers a very legit purpose at the end of the day.

Dont you think?

It would serve the same purpose registering Muslims would serve.
 
You remember that database Trump was talking about, I think every muslim should be voluntarily get into that database........

Why?

So the rest of the society is effected less.

If somebody should be picked up randomly at the airport checkpoint, this person should be a muslim by a high margin.

Really? Would you voluntarily register in a government database?

Yes, already applied....

Is it a database that tracks you on the basis of your religion?

Yes, basis on your religion, it would track your connections, affiliations, who you are voting for back in your muslim country, who you are supporting as a political figure back in your muslim country and so and on...

USA has all the right to know about the affiliations of her muslim citizens. Because we are talking about a terrorist state funded and supported by other "non-terrorist" muslim states. If a muslim is voting for an islamist party back in his/her country who is supporting ISIS because they are sunni, than USA has the right to do something aboutr this affiliations and choice.

Everybody responsible or their actions, for their choices.... Everybody.......
 
You remember that database Trump was talking about, I think every muslim should be voluntarily get into that database........

Your database would be fine with me...if all religious people had to register.

Why would they?

Is there a christian terrorist state supported and funded by other christin states all over the world?

But there is one islamist terrorist state funded and supported by other muslim states.

Why would a christian or a hindu or a jew, or a buddhist should be registering to any database, while profiling such religions would serve no purpose, while on the other hand profiling muslims, indeeeeeed, servers a very legit purpose at the end of the day.

Dont you think?

It would serve the same purpose registering Muslims would serve.


Name me another religion based terrorist state on this planet, that is being supported and funded by their fellow believers, other than ISIS...
 

So the rest of the society is effected less.

If somebody should be picked up randomly at the airport checkpoint, this person should be a muslim by a high margin.

Really? Would you voluntarily register in a government database?

Yes, already applied....

Is it a database that tracks you on the basis of your religion?

Yes, basis on your religion, it would track your connections, affiliations, who you are voting for back in your muslim country, who you are supporting as a political figure back in your muslim country and so and on...

USA has all the right to know about the affiliations of her muslim citizens. Because we are talking about a terrorist state funded and supported by other "non-terrorist" muslim states. If a muslim is voting for an islamist party back in his/her country who is supporting ISIS because they are sunni, than USA has the right to do something aboutr this affiliations and choice.

Everybody responsible or their actions, for their choices.... Everybody.......

Germans thought they had a right to register Jews in a database too.
 

So the rest of the society is effected less.

If somebody should be picked up randomly at the airport checkpoint, this person should be a muslim by a high margin.

Really? Would you voluntarily register in a government database?

Yes, already applied....

Is it a database that tracks you on the basis of your religion?

Yes, basis on your religion, it would track your connections, affiliations, who you are voting for back in your muslim country, who you are supporting as a political figure back in your muslim country and so and on...

You are in this database?

USA has all the right to know about the affiliations of her muslim citizens. Because we are talking about a terrorist state funded and supported by other "non-terrorist" muslim states. If a muslim is voting for an islamist party back in his/her country who is supporting ISIS because they are sunni, than USA has the right to do something aboutr this affiliations and choice.

Umh. No. It does not have that right. We're talking American citizens, yes?

Everybody responsible or their actions, for their choices.... Everybody.......

Of course. So what religious database have you voluntarily registered in?
 
So the rest of the society is effected less.

If somebody should be picked up randomly at the airport checkpoint, this person should be a muslim by a high margin.

Really? Would you voluntarily register in a government database?

Yes, already applied....

Is it a database that tracks you on the basis of your religion?

Yes, basis on your religion, it would track your connections, affiliations, who you are voting for back in your muslim country, who you are supporting as a political figure back in your muslim country and so and on...

USA has all the right to know about the affiliations of her muslim citizens. Because we are talking about a terrorist state funded and supported by other "non-terrorist" muslim states. If a muslim is voting for an islamist party back in his/her country who is supporting ISIS because they are sunni, than USA has the right to do something aboutr this affiliations and choice.

Everybody responsible or their actions, for their choices.... Everybody.......

Germans thought they had a right to register Jews in a database too.


If there was a jewish terrorist state funded by other fellow jews, they might have had a point. But there was none, was there?
 
Blame an innocent pro-lifer for an abortion clinic bombing.

Blame an innocent Muslim for the Boston marathon bombing.

What's the difference?
 

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