Various Thoughts on the Issues of Homosexuality

[frigidweirdo]

Do continue my child? And you are a child, nothing more.

There's a reason why this guy is on my ignore list, he can't post without insulting.

 

[GISMYS]

NOT MY WORDS BUT GOD'S!! read and believe!!!

Well, firstly the Bible was written and translated by MEN. There's no proof that the Bible is the word of God.

Second, people make the Bible say whatever they want it to say.

Nowhere in the original bible was there anything against gay people.

There was something against the practice of sleeping with priests to get closer to God that happened in the religions that happened before someone decided to invent Christianity, so they decided to change it.

Don't you think it's a little strange that Easter is at the same time as the old festival of spring and regeneration, and that Christmas is at the same time as the winter solstice?
They basically used old things and put their own thing on top, however with this particular thing they bulldozed it, and tried to make it not happen any more.

Now people like you are using it for things that "God" never said, nor those who wrote the bible intended. It's what YOU want it to mean and you have the cheek to claim "God said this" rubbish.

WHAT MAKES sexual perversion a COMPOUND sin???? first sexual perversion is a sick sin an abomination,but sexual perverts try to say their sin is not sin thus the compound their sin in a even worse way=they DEMY THE TRYTH OF GOD'S WORD which is a much worse sin!!!!

 

[frigidweirdo]

WHAT MAKES sexual perversion a COMPOUND sin???? first sexual perversion is a sick sin an abomination,but sexual perverts try to say their sin is not sin thus the compound their sin in a even worse way=they DEMY THE TRYTH OF GOD'S WORD which is a much worse sin!!!!

So where does it say this in the bible then? Or is this what you say?

Oh, doesn't the bible say you should treat people as you would want to be treated yourself!

 

[GISMYS]

WHAT MAKES sexual perversion a COMPOUND sin???? first sexual perversion is a sick sin an abomination,but sexual perverts try to say their sin is not sin thus the compound their sin in a even worse way=they DEMY THE TRYTH OF GOD'S WORD which is a much worse sin!!!!

So where does it say this in the bible then? Or is this what you say?

Oh, doesn't the bible say you should treat people as you would want to be treated yourself!

THE SIN OF REJECTING GOD AND GOD'S WORD is the sure ticket to hell!!!

 

[PaintMyHouse]

WHAT MAKES sexual perversion a COMPOUND sin???? first sexual perversion is a sick sin an abomination,but sexual perverts try to say their sin is not sin thus the compound their sin in a even worse way=they DEMY THE TRYTH OF GOD'S WORD which is a much worse sin!!!!

So where does it say this in the bible then? Or is this what you say?

Oh, doesn't the bible say you should treat people as you would want to be treated yourself!

THE SIN OF REJECTING GOD AND GOD'S WORD is the sure ticket to hell!!!

You are so right. So why did you make the choice to reject Islam and spend your eternity in Hell? Such a sad choice, to sin against God and choose the false god Jesus. I weep for your hell-bound soul but you refuse to listen to reason and accept the truth.

 

[KNB]

WHAT MAKES sexual perversion a COMPOUND sin???? first sexual perversion is a sick sin an abomination,but sexual perverts try to say their sin is not sin thus the compound their sin in a even worse way=they DEMY THE TRYTH OF GOD'S WORD which is a much worse sin!!!!

So where does it say this in the bible then? Or is this what you say?

Oh, doesn't the bible say you should treat people as you would want to be treated yourself!

THE SIN OF REJECTING GOD AND GOD'S WORD is the sure ticket to hell!!!

Your writing style makes you sound like a crazy person. You should read Siddhartha by Hermann Hesse or The Prophet by Kahlil Gibran.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Just for the fun of it, what's your real agenda against homosexuals? Why do they cause such concern for you? Faith? Fear? Hatred?

Faith? Fear? Hatred? Try Social Concience and a sense of obligation to my country.

Nonsense.

It’s fear and hatred, having nothing to do with a ‘social conscience’ and everything to do with the bane of social conservatism.

And if you had a true sense of obligation to your country, you wouldn’t be seeking to deny your fellow Americans their civil liberties.

 

[GISMYS]

So where does it say this in the bible then? Or is this what you say?

Oh, doesn't the bible say you should treat people as you would want to be treated yourself!

THE SIN OF REJECTING GOD AND GOD'S WORD is the sure ticket to hell!!!

You are so right. So why did you make the choice to reject Islam and spend your eternity in Hell? Such a sad choice, to sin against God and choose the false god Jesus. I weep for your hell-bound soul.

seek truth and you will find THE ONE TRUE GOD ALMIGHTY not the false god of islam.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

THE SIN OF REJECTING GOD AND GOD'S WORD is the sure ticket to hell!!!

You are so right. So why did you make the choice to reject Islam and spend your eternity in Hell? Such a sad choice, to sin against God and choose the false god Jesus. I weep for your hell-bound soul.

seek truth and you will find THE ONE TRUE GOD ALMIGHTY not the false god of islam.

The false God is Jesus, the pretender to God's throne. For you, unbeliever, Hell is too good and I say this only out of love.

 

[frigidweirdo]

WHAT MAKES sexual perversion a COMPOUND sin???? first sexual perversion is a sick sin an abomination,but sexual perverts try to say their sin is not sin thus the compound their sin in a even worse way=they DEMY THE TRYTH OF GOD'S WORD which is a much worse sin!!!!

So where does it say this in the bible then? Or is this what you say?

Oh, doesn't the bible say you should treat people as you would want to be treated yourself!

THE SIN OF REJECTING GOD AND GOD'S WORD is the sure ticket to hell!!!

Do you think I ask you questions as an excuse for you to write drivel?

WHERE IN THE BIBLE DOES IT SAY "sexual perversion a compound sin"?

 

[GISMYS]

There is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time. (I Timothy 2:5-6)
...The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand:
repent ye, and believe the gospel. (Mark 1:15)
Repent ye therefore, and be converted,
that your sins may be blotted out... (Acts 3:19)
...Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved... (Acts 16:31)

 

[frigidweirdo]

There is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time. (I Timothy 2:5-6)
...The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand:
repent ye, and believe the gospel. (Mark 1:15)
Repent ye therefore, and be converted,
that your sins may be blotted out... (Acts 3:19)
...Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved... (Acts 16:31)

Okay, i'm making an assumption that this is you quoting the bible to say this is where it says "sexual perversion a compound sin"

1) A ransom for all. Is this anything to do with being gay? I'm going to say no.
2) nothing about gay people
3) Nothing about gay people
4) And nothing about gay people.

Well done, you've proven nothing.

 

[Seawytch]

You still haven't provided facts, you provided a flawed study.

And Paul Cameron?

For the most part, official scientific organisations have paid very little attention to Cameron's studies, and thus extensive scientific analysis of his claims have not been widely available. However Cameron's research, public statements and legal testimony have received criticism from researchers and organizations over methodologies they view as academically dishonest and misleading.

Oh Really ? Point out the flaws please.

I already did, but apparently you want more? Okay...Regnerus:

In attendance were scholars such as Mark Regnerus, a sociologist who sparked controversy after he published a 2012 journal article funded by religious conservatives arguing that children of same-sex parents fared worse than others—even though he never studied children of same-sex parents. Regnerus’ study was condemned in a letter by 200 scholarly peers and his own university department issued a stern rebuke calling the study “fundamentally flawed on conceptual and methodological grounds.” An internal audit found “serious flaws and distortions” and concluded the paper never should have been published.​

Michigan Courtroom Deals Fake Anti-Gay Research Strategy A Stinging Blow

Cameron:

On December 2, 1983, the American Psychological Association sent Paul Cameron a letter informing him that he had been dropped from membership. Early in 1984, all members of the American Psychological Association received official written notice that "Paul Cameron (Nebraska) was dropped from membership for a violation of the Preamble to the Ethical Principles of Psychologists" by the APA Board of Directors.5 Cameron has posted an elaborate argument about his expulsion from APA on his website, claiming that he resigned from APA before he was dropped from membership. Like most organizations, however, APA does not allow a member to resign when they are being investigated. And even if Cameron's claims were accepted as true, it would be remarkable that the largest professional organization of psychologists in the United States (and other professional associations, as noted below) went to such lengths to disassociate itself from one individual.

At its membership meeting on October 19, 1984, the Nebraska Psychological Association adopted a resolution stating that it "formally disassociates itself from the representations and interpretations of scientific literature offered by Dr. Paul Cameron in his writings and public statements on sexuality."6

In 1985, the American Sociological Association (ASA) adopted a resolution which asserted that "Dr. Paul Cameron has consistently misinterpreted and misrepresented sociological research on sexuality, homosexuality, and lesbianism" and noted that "Dr. Paul Cameron has repeatedly campaigned for the abrogation of the civil rights of lesbians and gay men, substantiating his call on the basis of his distorted interpretation of this research."7 The resolution formally charged an ASA committee with the task of "critically evaluating and publicly responding to the work of Dr. Paul Cameron."

At its August, 1986 meeting, the ASA officially accepted the committee's report and passed the following resolution:

The American Sociological Association officially and publicly states that Paul Cameron is not a sociologist, and condemns his consistent misrepresentation of sociological research. Information on this action and a copy of the report by the Committee on the Status of Homosexuals in Sociology, "The Paul Cameron Case," is to be published in Footnotes, and be sent to the officers of all regional and state sociological associations and to the Canadian Sociological Association with a request that they alert their members to Cameron's frequent lecture and media appearances."8

In August, 1996, the Canadian Psychological Association adopted the following policy statement:

The Canadian Psychological Association takes the position that Dr. Paul Cameron has consistently misinterpreted and misrepresented research on sexuality, homosexuality, and lesbianism and thus, it formally disassociates itself from the representation and interpretations of scientific literature in his writings and public statements on sexuality.
​

Paul Cameron Bio and Fact Sheet

 

[GreenBean]

Oh Really ? Point out the flaws please.

I already did, but apparently you want more? Okay...Regnerus:

In attendance were scholars such as Mark Regnerus, a sociologist who sparked controversy after he published a 2012 journal article funded by religious conservatives arguing that children of same-sex parents fared worse than others—even though he never studied children of same-sex parents. Regnerus’ study was condemned in a letter by 200 scholarly peers and his own university department issued a stern rebuke calling the study “fundamentally flawed on conceptual and methodological grounds.” An internal audit found “serious flaws and distortions” and concluded the paper never should have been published.​

Michigan Courtroom Deals Fake Anti-Gay Research Strategy A Stinging Blow

Cameron:

On December 2, 1983, the American Psychological Association sent Paul Cameron a letter informing him that he had been dropped from membership. Early in 1984, all members of the American Psychological Association received official written notice that "Paul Cameron (Nebraska) was dropped from membership for a violation of the Preamble to the Ethical Principles of Psychologists" by the APA Board of Directors.5 Cameron has posted an elaborate argument about his expulsion from APA on his website, claiming that he resigned from APA before he was dropped from membership. Like most organizations, however, APA does not allow a member to resign when they are being investigated. And even if Cameron's claims were accepted as true, it would be remarkable that the largest professional organization of psychologists in the United States (and other professional associations, as noted below) went to such lengths to disassociate itself from one individual.

At its membership meeting on October 19, 1984, the Nebraska Psychological Association adopted a resolution stating that it "formally disassociates itself from the representations and interpretations of scientific literature offered by Dr. Paul Cameron in his writings and public statements on sexuality."6

In 1985, the American Sociological Association (ASA) adopted a resolution which asserted that "Dr. Paul Cameron has consistently misinterpreted and misrepresented sociological research on sexuality, homosexuality, and lesbianism" and noted that "Dr. Paul Cameron has repeatedly campaigned for the abrogation of the civil rights of lesbians and gay men, substantiating his call on the basis of his distorted interpretation of this research."7 The resolution formally charged an ASA committee with the task of "critically evaluating and publicly responding to the work of Dr. Paul Cameron."

At its August, 1986 meeting, the ASA officially accepted the committee's report and passed the following resolution:

The American Sociological Association officially and publicly states that Paul Cameron is not a sociologist, and condemns his consistent misrepresentation of sociological research. Information on this action and a copy of the report by the Committee on the Status of Homosexuals in Sociology, "The Paul Cameron Case," is to be published in Footnotes, and be sent to the officers of all regional and state sociological associations and to the Canadian Sociological Association with a request that they alert their members to Cameron's frequent lecture and media appearances."8

In August, 1996, the Canadian Psychological Association adopted the following policy statement:

The Canadian Psychological Association takes the position that Dr. Paul Cameron has consistently misinterpreted and misrepresented research on sexuality, homosexuality, and lesbianism and thus, it formally disassociates itself from the representation and interpretations of scientific literature in his writings and public statements on sexuality.
​

Paul Cameron Bio and Fact Sheet

You can't debunk the Regnerus work , so you try to deflect by linking him to Paul Cameron ?

TWO DIFFERENT PEOPLE - I am not that familiar with Cameron, and don't wish to become so - you are attempting to "frame"the debate and deflect with somewhat off-topic sub issues . The Link you would want to adress would be the Regnerus study - NOT CAMERON - .

I also notice you neglected or refused to adress any of the content of the studies, either youare incapable of it - orcan't do so because it destroys your stance. At issue are Evelyn Hooker, Alfred Kinsey and Mark Regnerus and their studies . Try again - Paul Cameron is a ppropagandist not a researcher and I hold him in as much disdain as the Gay propagandists who have infiltrated the scientific and journalistic communities.

Regnerus’ study was condemned in a letter by 200 scholarly peers and his own university department issued a stern rebuke calling the study “fundamentally flawed on conceptual and methodological grounds.” An internal audit found “serious flaws and distortions” and concluded the paper never should have been published.

As far as being fundamentally flawed - Nonsense - it was done at standards that make Hooker and Kinsey turn over in their graves. The UNiversity initially defended him, only after three years of intense , persistent and unabated political pressure and underhanded harassment did it finally distance itself from his studies.

 

[GreenBean]

Just for the fun of it, what's your real agenda against homosexuals? Why do they cause such concern for you? Faith? Fear? Hatred?

Faith? Fear? Hatred? Try Social Concience and a sense of obligation to my country.

Nonsense.

It’s fear and hatred, having nothing to do with a ‘social conscience’ and everything to do with the bane of social conservatism.

And if you had a true sense of obligation to your country, you wouldn’t be seeking to deny your fellow Americans their civil liberties.

deny your fellow Americans their civil liberties.

So you believe they should have the right to initiate Children into sexual perversion at the earliest age possible.

You must also believe they have the right to fornicate with them, as is the stated goal of some of their sub groups.

You must also believe they have the right to indoctrinate the public via devious and somewhat subliminal manipulation , which would make the NSA scandal pale in comparison.

You need to educate yourself in the difference between Gay Rights and the Gay Agenda. As a student of constitutional law you should realize that advancing the rights of one group at the expense of others is an historical disaster. Gays, as Americans have Rights Not Privileges. They are not normal human beings, they suffer from a sexual dysphoria- however most are productive and respectable people who live their lives in a decent manner respectful of their non-gay neighbors and countrymen.


Gay Rights :
to be protected against violent crimes driven by bigotry
to be able to get married
to be able to get a job
to be able to serve in our miliary

Gay Agenda:
to indoctrinate the hetero population at the earliest age possible
to distort reality via persistent media and educational manipulation
to destroy /break down all sexual morals - incld. pedophillia
to demasculate the AmericanFather / Male
to destroy the nuclear family

Homosexual activists claim they only seek acceptance and tolerance from mainstream society, but as per Marshall Kirk, a prophet of the Gay Agenda - "In the early states of any campaign to reach straight America, the masses should not be shocked and repelled by premature exposure to homosexual behavior itself. Instead, the imagery of sex should be downplayed and gay rights should be reduced to an abstract social question as much as possible. First let the camel get his nose inside the tent -- and only later his unsightly derriere! "

http://loonybird.com/gay_media.htm

 

[GreenBean]

You are so right. So why did you make the choice to reject Islam and spend your eternity in Hell? Such a sad choice, to sin against God and choose the false god Jesus. I weep for your hell-bound soul.

seek truth and you will find THE ONE TRUE GOD ALMIGHTY not the false god of islam.

The false God id Jesus, the pretender to God's throne. For you, unbeliever, Hell is too good and I say this only out of love.

Why do you insist on attacking people because of their religous convictions ?- isn't your assault on her/his sense of religous duty similar to that you criticize and condemn other people in relation to their attacks on Faggots such as yourself ?

 

[GreenBean]

Faith? Fear? Hatred? Try Social Concience and a sense of obligation to my country.

Nonsense.

It’s fear and hatred, having nothing to do with a ‘social conscience’ and everything to do with the bane of social conservatism.

And if you had a true sense of obligation to your country, you wouldn’t be seeking to deny your fellow Americans their civil liberties.

deny your fellow Americans their civil liberties.

So you believe they should have the right to initiate Children into sexual perversion at the earliest age possible.

You must also believe they have the right to fornicate with them, as is the stated goal of some of their sub groups.

You must also believe they have the right to indoctrinate the public via devious and somewhat subliminal manipulation , which would make the NSA scandal pale in comparison.

You need to educate yourself in the difference between Gay Rights and the Gay Agenda. As a student of constitutional law you should realize that advancing the rights of one group at the expense of others is an historical disaster. Gays, as Americans have Rights Not Privileges. They are not normal human beings, they suffer from a sexual dysphoria- however most are productive and respectable people who live their lives in a decent manner respectful of their non-gay neighbors and countrymen.


Gay Rights :
to be protected against violent crimes driven by bigotry
to be able to get married
to be able to get a job
to be able to serve in our miliary

Gay Agenda:
to indoctrinate the hetero population at the earliest age possible
to distort reality via persistent media and educational manipulation
to destroy /break down all sexual morals - incld. pedophillia
to demasculate the AmericanFather / Male
to destroy the nuclear family

Homosexual activists claim they only seek acceptance and tolerance from mainstream society, but as per Marshall Kirk, a prophet of the Gay Agenda - "In the early states of any campaign to reach straight America, the masses should not be shocked and repelled by premature exposure to homosexual behavior itself. Instead, the imagery of sex should be downplayed and gay rights should be reduced to an abstract social question as much as possible. First let the camel get his nose inside the tent -- and only later his unsightly derriere! "

Gay and Lesbian Media influences

So far as "bane of social conservatism. " - I don't know many conservatives who voted for Obama [The first time - not the second] - although I am a registered Republican because I consider them the lesser of two evils - I do favor conservatism over Liberal Progressive Sociofacism. I also don't know of many conservatives who spport Gay Marriage - It's about thinking for yourself and not letting knee jerk reactions get in the way of your social conscience. I find that most Liberal-Progressives such as yourself refuse to let facts get inthe way of their Opinions

 

[PaintMyHouse]

seek truth and you will find THE ONE TRUE GOD ALMIGHTY not the false god of islam.

The false God is Jesus, the pretender to God's throne. For you, unbeliever, Hell is too good and I say this only out of love.

Why do you insist on attacking people because of their religous convictions ?- isn't your assault on her/his sense of religous duty similar to that you criticize and condemn other people in relation to their attacks on Faggots such as yourself ?

I do it out of love, because he is going to burn in Hell for all eternity for choosing the wrong god and rejecting the real one.

And your attacks on the faggots are just the death rattles of the homophobes like yourself dying off, literally. Frankly I'm more than happy about that. The sooner you are gone the sooner the world is a better place.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

I find that most Liberal-Progressives such as yourself refuse to let facts get inthe way of their Opinions

What you find is what your tiny mind seeks to comfort it while the world leaves you in the past where you belong, nothing more.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Faith? Fear? Hatred? Try Social Concience and a sense of obligation to my country.

Nonsense.

It’s fear and hatred, having nothing to do with a ‘social conscience’ and everything to do with the bane of social conservatism.

And if you had a true sense of obligation to your country, you wouldn’t be seeking to deny your fellow Americans their civil liberties.

deny your fellow Americans their civil liberties.

So you believe they should have the right to initiate Children into sexual perversion at the earliest age possible.

You must also believe they have the right to fornicate with them, as is the stated goal of some of their sub groups.

You must also believe they have the right to indoctrinate the public via devious and somewhat subliminal manipulation , which would make the NSA scandal pale in comparison.

You need to educate yourself in the difference between Gay Rights and the Gay Agenda. As a student of constitutional law you should realize that advancing the rights of one group at the expense of others is an historical disaster. Gays, as Americans have Rights Not Privileges. They are not normal human beings, they suffer from a sexual dysphoria- however most are productive and respectable people who live their lives in a decent manner respectful of their non-gay neighbors and countrymen.


Gay Rights :
to be protected against violent crimes driven by bigotry
to be able to get married
to be able to get a job
to be able to serve in our miliary

Gay Agenda:
to indoctrinate the hetero population at the earliest age possible
to distort reality via persistent media and educational manipulation
to destroy /break down all sexual morals - incld. pedophillia
to demasculate the AmericanFather / Male
to destroy the nuclear family

Homosexual activists claim they only seek acceptance and tolerance from mainstream society, but as per Marshall Kirk, a prophet of the Gay Agenda - "In the early states of any campaign to reach straight America, the masses should not be shocked and repelled by premature exposure to homosexual behavior itself. Instead, the imagery of sex should be downplayed and gay rights should be reduced to an abstract social question as much as possible. First let the camel get his nose inside the tent -- and only later his unsightly derriere! "

Gay and Lesbian Media influences

Strawman after strawman.