Video shows Ahmaud Arbery Was caught breaking and entering an unfinished property, then towards McMichael‘s house

As I was saying, Him breaking into the house doesn’t really matter what it comes down to it its self-defense as you can see in the video you see the African-American male running fast towards a man who’s just trying to have them stop until the cops come to figure out what’s going on, then the black male decides to take the gun or try and he ends up losing his life
 
Does the OP have any shame at all?
You racist sob you turned it into something about Race when It was just two guys going after a man they saw leaving the house he broke into.. democrats have no limits to your racism

He walked into an open house that was under construction to have a look. He didn't break and enter anything. The police already determined that. Nobody lived there, and there were no furnishings or anything else. He broke no law by taking a peek at the new house being built.
how often do joggers go jogging in kahki shorts?

i'm going to wait for an entire story before i take a side. but as usual, left and right line up to face off, each having a side and someone screaming GO.


The libs did start this. Really, this story is about someone getting shot on the street in small Georgia city. Neither party to the shooting is connected, the motive has yet to be determined. Those who say the shooters are "white supremacists" are talking shit, as no one knows and it would seem unlikely. People get shot every day of the weeks somewhere, there was nothing remarkable about this , except for the race of the actors

Picking a story, and forcing it into a predetermined template is what the libs always do.
Actually what made this such a big story was because the killers were not being prosecuted. The crime occurred some 2 months ago but only became big news when video emerged showing they lied about how Arbery was hunted down.
What was the crime they committed?

They committed murder. The police already said the dead guy committed no crime.
Uh...there is video of the dead guy trespassing on private property. He may have also stolen the hammer seen in the video as well.

But you morons just don’t want to accept the common sense story that this thug got caught red-handed.

You’re sticking to your story that black guy with a criminal record living with his mom, went “jogging” wearing khaki shorts and oversized white t-shirt and high tops, with a hammer in his pocket for “protection”.
He noticed a home under construction while walking (he must had been tired from jogging with a hammer), decides he will “check it out” since there aren’t any explicit “no trespassing signs” and figures it’s for sale. (Even though he has no job and lives with his mother).

He then continues his jog after “looking at a house” and is ambushed by some neo-Nazis who wanted to lynch some innocent black guy that day, in broad daylight in their own neighborhood.

^^ Yea, that sounds *way* more plausible than he was caught trespassing and stealing from a home he had no business being in, panicked and attacked the neighborhood watch that had already called the cops at least twice.
great.

he got caught.

he never should have been shot and killed by joe average citizen.

you and many others seem to keep missing *that* point.
Well, he shouldn’t had charged right at a man with a shotgun.

Was the man supposed to let suspected thug take the shotgun from him?

Why did he have the shotgun pointed at the guy?
Same reason a cop would draw their weapon on a criminal trying to flee.

You cannot do that. When can a cop unholster their weapon?

Have a nice day!
When charged at by a criminal.
What crime did he commit?
He was In a dwelling he wasn’t supposed to be in. Felony in GA

Name the law that says he shouldn't have been there.
Does the OP have any shame at all?
You racist sob you turned it into something about Race when It was just two guys going after a man they saw leaving the house he broke into.. democrats have no limits to your racism

He walked into an open house that was under construction to have a look. He didn't break and enter anything. The police already determined that. Nobody lived there, and there were no furnishings or anything else. He broke no law by taking a peek at the new house being built.
how often do joggers go jogging in kahki shorts?

i'm going to wait for an entire story before i take a side. but as usual, left and right line up to face off, each having a side and someone screaming GO.


The libs did start this. Really, this story is about someone getting shot on the street in small Georgia city. Neither party to the shooting is connected, the motive has yet to be determined. Those who say the shooters are "white supremacists" are talking shit, as no one knows and it would seem unlikely. People get shot every day of the weeks somewhere, there was nothing remarkable about this , except for the race of the actors

Picking a story, and forcing it into a predetermined template is what the libs always do.
Actually what made this such a big story was because the killers were not being prosecuted. The crime occurred some 2 months ago but only became big news when video emerged showing they lied about how Arbery was hunted down.
What was the crime they committed?

They committed murder. The police already said the dead guy committed no crime.
Uh...there is video of the dead guy trespassing on private property. He may have also stolen the hammer seen in the video as well.

But you morons just don’t want to accept the common sense story that this thug got caught red-handed.

You’re sticking to your story that black guy with a criminal record living with his mom, went “jogging” wearing khaki shorts and oversized white t-shirt and high tops, with a hammer in his pocket for “protection”.
He noticed a home under construction while walking (he must had been tired from jogging with a hammer), decides he will “check it out” since there aren’t any explicit “no trespassing signs” and figures it’s for sale. (Even though he has no job and lives with his mother).

He then continues his jog after “looking at a house” and is ambushed by some neo-Nazis who wanted to lynch some innocent black guy that day, in broad daylight in their own neighborhood.

^^ Yea, that sounds *way* more plausible than he was caught trespassing and stealing from a home he had no business being in, panicked and attacked the neighborhood watch that had already called the cops at least twice.
great.

he got caught.

he never should have been shot and killed by joe average citizen.

you and many others seem to keep missing *that* point.
Well, he shouldn’t had charged right at a man with a shotgun.

Was the man supposed to let suspected thug take the shotgun from him?

Why did he have the shotgun pointed at the guy?
Same reason a cop would draw their weapon on a criminal trying to flee.

You cannot do that. When can a cop unholster their weapon?

Have a nice day!
When charged at by a criminal.
What crime did he commit?
He was In a dwelling he wasn’t supposed to be in. Felony in GA

Name the law that says he shouldn't have been there.

Do the vigilantes have psychic powers to know his intention was to steal something? The video is crap.
Was in there to look where he wanted to put the couch? Lol
No, people have a curiosity which drives them to look at construction sites. It's fairly common and no couch is involved.
The important thing is figuring out where he lived in relation to the area, and why he chose the area to run in as opposed to an area more suitable to his location of interest or residence lived at. Infact they all should be vetted in this way. Should answer alot of questions.

People can't run where they please? It's none of anyone else's business.
Maybe Arbery liked to run in this area because it was pleasant near the water. The owner of the house under construction said that he wanted it because the area was peaceful and gave him the opportunity for fishing and boating. I like to be around water, and just sit or walk on the beach.
He wasn’t jogging at all. The video shows him walking until he got to the house. He then stops, looks around, then runs up the driveway into the house. Clearly he intended to steal something.

So the video of him running is a figment of our imagination? What difference does it make anyway?

That was after he saw that neighbors spotted him in the house and called the police. So he bolted like criminals always do.

When did you get your degree in psychology? If so, you would know better than to make stupid assumptions.

How would he know the police had been called?
Because neighbors yelled at him and told him they called the police. The video even shows a neighbor across the street on the phone while watching him.

Who shot that video and how did he know who he was talking to? Can you tell who I am talking to on the phone right now?
Funny how you keep moving the goal posts.

There were multiple witnesses to the black burglary suspect. They called 9-1-1, they probably called other neighbors.

You are really pathetic making excuses for this burglar. The MSM and leftwing lies have been debunked. He wasn’t a “jogger”, he wasn’t wearing jogger clothes, he wasn’t running (he was walking), he was ten miles from where he lived. He wasn’t looking to buy the property, he was an unemployed, living with his mother, and had a criminal record. He was there to steal, period. Just because there wasn’t shit there, doesn’t mean he didn’t intend to steal something.

Ridiculous. The video at the house shows that he was leaving with nothing other than what he came in with. Many people stop to check out new construction. There was no "burglary" and no "burglary suspect." There is no way anyone can show "intent," i.e. mindset, in this case. I don't know why you are trying to spin this to destroy the deceased's character. Are you friends with the McMichaels or something?
“Many people” check out construction sites? Yea, thieves looking to steal shit.

You still can't make up intent. Again, are you friends with the McMichaels?
I don’t have to “make up” intent, it’s on video. A grown man running into a residence that isn’t his and looking around for five minutes is committing a crime.

Are you friends with Arbery?

It wasn't a "residence." Nobody lived there and it hadn't even been completed yet. Why do you persist on trying to make up criminal intent based on nothing? Also, please explain how the McMichaels viewed any videos before killing Arbery. Since they could not have viewed the homeowner's video and they couldn't have viewed Bryan's, either, what other videos were there before they killed Arbery?

I did not know Arbery and I do not know his family. We have no connection. I have no connection to the McMichaels, either, nor to any other person who was involved in any way in this case.
According to Georgia law, it is a dwelling regardless of anyone is there at the time. The property is a house. So it is trespassing and easily burglary.

You saying “based on nothing”. Video evidence of him sneaking into the house is proof, as much as you don’t want to admit it.

I don’t know how the McMichaels found out. Likely from a neighbor calling them, or they saw him on the property.

Or were they both out in their truck that day looking for a random black guy to lynch?

Funny how you keep questioning how I can claim the intent of Arbery, yet YOU can say you know the intent of the McMichaels was to murder Arbery. WHERE is your proof?
LOLOL

I like how you switched from "residence" to "dwelling" when your idiocy was exposed.
Merely pointing out the language used in the law. Tap dance all you want, doesn’t change the fact your homie was committing first degree burglary.
You cannot commit burglary without stealing something, dumbass.
Yes you can, that’s Georgia law. I already linked the law, and court case that proves it.
 
Does the OP have any shame at all?
You racist sob you turned it into something about Race when It was just two guys going after a man they saw leaving the house he broke into.. democrats have no limits to your racism

He walked into an open house that was under construction to have a look. He didn't break and enter anything. The police already determined that. Nobody lived there, and there were no furnishings or anything else. He broke no law by taking a peek at the new house being built.
how often do joggers go jogging in kahki shorts?

i'm going to wait for an entire story before i take a side. but as usual, left and right line up to face off, each having a side and someone screaming GO.


The libs did start this. Really, this story is about someone getting shot on the street in small Georgia city. Neither party to the shooting is connected, the motive has yet to be determined. Those who say the shooters are "white supremacists" are talking shit, as no one knows and it would seem unlikely. People get shot every day of the weeks somewhere, there was nothing remarkable about this , except for the race of the actors

Picking a story, and forcing it into a predetermined template is what the libs always do.
Actually what made this such a big story was because the killers were not being prosecuted. The crime occurred some 2 months ago but only became big news when video emerged showing they lied about how Arbery was hunted down.
What was the crime they committed?

They committed murder. The police already said the dead guy committed no crime.
Uh...there is video of the dead guy trespassing on private property. He may have also stolen the hammer seen in the video as well.

But you morons just don’t want to accept the common sense story that this thug got caught red-handed.

You’re sticking to your story that black guy with a criminal record living with his mom, went “jogging” wearing khaki shorts and oversized white t-shirt and high tops, with a hammer in his pocket for “protection”.
He noticed a home under construction while walking (he must had been tired from jogging with a hammer), decides he will “check it out” since there aren’t any explicit “no trespassing signs” and figures it’s for sale. (Even though he has no job and lives with his mother).

He then continues his jog after “looking at a house” and is ambushed by some neo-Nazis who wanted to lynch some innocent black guy that day, in broad daylight in their own neighborhood.

^^ Yea, that sounds *way* more plausible than he was caught trespassing and stealing from a home he had no business being in, panicked and attacked the neighborhood watch that had already called the cops at least twice.
great.

he got caught.

he never should have been shot and killed by joe average citizen.

you and many others seem to keep missing *that* point.
Well, he shouldn’t had charged right at a man with a shotgun.

Was the man supposed to let suspected thug take the shotgun from him?

Why did he have the shotgun pointed at the guy?
Same reason a cop would draw their weapon on a criminal trying to flee.

You cannot do that. When can a cop unholster their weapon?

Have a nice day!
When charged at by a criminal.
What crime did he commit?
He was In a dwelling he wasn’t supposed to be in. Felony in GA

Name the law that says he shouldn't have been there.
Does the OP have any shame at all?
You racist sob you turned it into something about Race when It was just two guys going after a man they saw leaving the house he broke into.. democrats have no limits to your racism

He walked into an open house that was under construction to have a look. He didn't break and enter anything. The police already determined that. Nobody lived there, and there were no furnishings or anything else. He broke no law by taking a peek at the new house being built.
how often do joggers go jogging in kahki shorts?

i'm going to wait for an entire story before i take a side. but as usual, left and right line up to face off, each having a side and someone screaming GO.


The libs did start this. Really, this story is about someone getting shot on the street in small Georgia city. Neither party to the shooting is connected, the motive has yet to be determined. Those who say the shooters are "white supremacists" are talking shit, as no one knows and it would seem unlikely. People get shot every day of the weeks somewhere, there was nothing remarkable about this , except for the race of the actors

Picking a story, and forcing it into a predetermined template is what the libs always do.
Actually what made this such a big story was because the killers were not being prosecuted. The crime occurred some 2 months ago but only became big news when video emerged showing they lied about how Arbery was hunted down.
What was the crime they committed?

They committed murder. The police already said the dead guy committed no crime.
Uh...there is video of the dead guy trespassing on private property. He may have also stolen the hammer seen in the video as well.

But you morons just don’t want to accept the common sense story that this thug got caught red-handed.

You’re sticking to your story that black guy with a criminal record living with his mom, went “jogging” wearing khaki shorts and oversized white t-shirt and high tops, with a hammer in his pocket for “protection”.
He noticed a home under construction while walking (he must had been tired from jogging with a hammer), decides he will “check it out” since there aren’t any explicit “no trespassing signs” and figures it’s for sale. (Even though he has no job and lives with his mother).

He then continues his jog after “looking at a house” and is ambushed by some neo-Nazis who wanted to lynch some innocent black guy that day, in broad daylight in their own neighborhood.

^^ Yea, that sounds *way* more plausible than he was caught trespassing and stealing from a home he had no business being in, panicked and attacked the neighborhood watch that had already called the cops at least twice.
great.

he got caught.

he never should have been shot and killed by joe average citizen.

you and many others seem to keep missing *that* point.
Well, he shouldn’t had charged right at a man with a shotgun.

Was the man supposed to let suspected thug take the shotgun from him?

Why did he have the shotgun pointed at the guy?
Same reason a cop would draw their weapon on a criminal trying to flee.

You cannot do that. When can a cop unholster their weapon?

Have a nice day!
When charged at by a criminal.
What crime did he commit?
He was In a dwelling he wasn’t supposed to be in. Felony in GA

Name the law that says he shouldn't have been there.

Do the vigilantes have psychic powers to know his intention was to steal something? The video is crap.
Was in there to look where he wanted to put the couch? Lol
No, people have a curiosity which drives them to look at construction sites. It's fairly common and no couch is involved.
The important thing is figuring out where he lived in relation to the area, and why he chose the area to run in as opposed to an area more suitable to his location of interest or residence lived at. Infact they all should be vetted in this way. Should answer alot of questions.

People can't run where they please? It's none of anyone else's business.
Maybe Arbery liked to run in this area because it was pleasant near the water. The owner of the house under construction said that he wanted it because the area was peaceful and gave him the opportunity for fishing and boating. I like to be around water, and just sit or walk on the beach.
He wasn’t jogging at all. The video shows him walking until he got to the house. He then stops, looks around, then runs up the driveway into the house. Clearly he intended to steal something.

So the video of him running is a figment of our imagination? What difference does it make anyway?

That was after he saw that neighbors spotted him in the house and called the police. So he bolted like criminals always do.

When did you get your degree in psychology? If so, you would know better than to make stupid assumptions.

How would he know the police had been called?
Because neighbors yelled at him and told him they called the police. The video even shows a neighbor across the street on the phone while watching him.

Who shot that video and how did he know who he was talking to? Can you tell who I am talking to on the phone right now?
Funny how you keep moving the goal posts.

There were multiple witnesses to the black burglary suspect. They called 9-1-1, they probably called other neighbors.

You are really pathetic making excuses for this burglar. The MSM and leftwing lies have been debunked. He wasn’t a “jogger”, he wasn’t wearing jogger clothes, he wasn’t running (he was walking), he was ten miles from where he lived. He wasn’t looking to buy the property, he was an unemployed, living with his mother, and had a criminal record. He was there to steal, period. Just because there wasn’t shit there, doesn’t mean he didn’t intend to steal something.

Ridiculous. The video at the house shows that he was leaving with nothing other than what he came in with. Many people stop to check out new construction. There was no "burglary" and no "burglary suspect." There is no way anyone can show "intent," i.e. mindset, in this case. I don't know why you are trying to spin this to destroy the deceased's character. Are you friends with the McMichaels or something?
“Many people” check out construction sites? Yea, thieves looking to steal shit.

You still can't make up intent. Again, are you friends with the McMichaels?
I don’t have to “make up” intent, it’s on video. A grown man running into a residence that isn’t his and looking around for five minutes is committing a crime.

Are you friends with Arbery?

It wasn't a "residence." Nobody lived there and it hadn't even been completed yet. Why do you persist on trying to make up criminal intent based on nothing? Also, please explain how the McMichaels viewed any videos before killing Arbery. Since they could not have viewed the homeowner's video and they couldn't have viewed Bryan's, either, what other videos were there before they killed Arbery?

I did not know Arbery and I do not know his family. We have no connection. I have no connection to the McMichaels, either, nor to any other person who was involved in any way in this case.
According to Georgia law, it is a dwelling regardless of anyone is there at the time. The property is a house. So it is trespassing and easily burglary.

You saying “based on nothing”. Video evidence of him sneaking into the house is proof, as much as you don’t want to admit it.

I don’t know how the McMichaels found out. Likely from a neighbor calling them, or they saw him on the property.

Or were they both out in their truck that day looking for a random black guy to lynch?

Funny how you keep questioning how I can claim the intent of Arbery, yet YOU can say you know the intent of the McMichaels was to murder Arbery. WHERE is your proof?
LOLOL

I like how you switched from "residence" to "dwelling" when your idiocy was exposed.
Merely pointing out the language used in the law. Tap dance all you want, doesn’t change the fact your homie was committing first degree burglary.
You cannot commit burglary without stealing something, dumbass.
Yes you can, that’s Georgia law. I already linked the law, and court case that proves it.
Too bad for you, you failed miserably to show Arbery intended to steal anything.
 
Does the OP have any shame at all?
You racist sob you turned it into something about Race when It was just two guys going after a man they saw leaving the house he broke into.. democrats have no limits to your racism

He walked into an open house that was under construction to have a look. He didn't break and enter anything. The police already determined that. Nobody lived there, and there were no furnishings or anything else. He broke no law by taking a peek at the new house being built.
how often do joggers go jogging in kahki shorts?

i'm going to wait for an entire story before i take a side. but as usual, left and right line up to face off, each having a side and someone screaming GO.


The libs did start this. Really, this story is about someone getting shot on the street in small Georgia city. Neither party to the shooting is connected, the motive has yet to be determined. Those who say the shooters are "white supremacists" are talking shit, as no one knows and it would seem unlikely. People get shot every day of the weeks somewhere, there was nothing remarkable about this , except for the race of the actors

Picking a story, and forcing it into a predetermined template is what the libs always do.
Actually what made this such a big story was because the killers were not being prosecuted. The crime occurred some 2 months ago but only became big news when video emerged showing they lied about how Arbery was hunted down.
What was the crime they committed?

They committed murder. The police already said the dead guy committed no crime.
Uh...there is video of the dead guy trespassing on private property. He may have also stolen the hammer seen in the video as well.

But you morons just don’t want to accept the common sense story that this thug got caught red-handed.

You’re sticking to your story that black guy with a criminal record living with his mom, went “jogging” wearing khaki shorts and oversized white t-shirt and high tops, with a hammer in his pocket for “protection”.
He noticed a home under construction while walking (he must had been tired from jogging with a hammer), decides he will “check it out” since there aren’t any explicit “no trespassing signs” and figures it’s for sale. (Even though he has no job and lives with his mother).

He then continues his jog after “looking at a house” and is ambushed by some neo-Nazis who wanted to lynch some innocent black guy that day, in broad daylight in their own neighborhood.

^^ Yea, that sounds *way* more plausible than he was caught trespassing and stealing from a home he had no business being in, panicked and attacked the neighborhood watch that had already called the cops at least twice.
great.

he got caught.

he never should have been shot and killed by joe average citizen.

you and many others seem to keep missing *that* point.
Well, he shouldn’t had charged right at a man with a shotgun.

Was the man supposed to let suspected thug take the shotgun from him?

Why did he have the shotgun pointed at the guy?
Same reason a cop would draw their weapon on a criminal trying to flee.

You cannot do that. When can a cop unholster their weapon?

Have a nice day!
When charged at by a criminal.
What crime did he commit?
He was In a dwelling he wasn’t supposed to be in. Felony in GA

Name the law that says he shouldn't have been there.
Does the OP have any shame at all?
You racist sob you turned it into something about Race when It was just two guys going after a man they saw leaving the house he broke into.. democrats have no limits to your racism

He walked into an open house that was under construction to have a look. He didn't break and enter anything. The police already determined that. Nobody lived there, and there were no furnishings or anything else. He broke no law by taking a peek at the new house being built.
how often do joggers go jogging in kahki shorts?

i'm going to wait for an entire story before i take a side. but as usual, left and right line up to face off, each having a side and someone screaming GO.


The libs did start this. Really, this story is about someone getting shot on the street in small Georgia city. Neither party to the shooting is connected, the motive has yet to be determined. Those who say the shooters are "white supremacists" are talking shit, as no one knows and it would seem unlikely. People get shot every day of the weeks somewhere, there was nothing remarkable about this , except for the race of the actors

Picking a story, and forcing it into a predetermined template is what the libs always do.
Actually what made this such a big story was because the killers were not being prosecuted. The crime occurred some 2 months ago but only became big news when video emerged showing they lied about how Arbery was hunted down.
What was the crime they committed?

They committed murder. The police already said the dead guy committed no crime.
Uh...there is video of the dead guy trespassing on private property. He may have also stolen the hammer seen in the video as well.

But you morons just don’t want to accept the common sense story that this thug got caught red-handed.

You’re sticking to your story that black guy with a criminal record living with his mom, went “jogging” wearing khaki shorts and oversized white t-shirt and high tops, with a hammer in his pocket for “protection”.
He noticed a home under construction while walking (he must had been tired from jogging with a hammer), decides he will “check it out” since there aren’t any explicit “no trespassing signs” and figures it’s for sale. (Even though he has no job and lives with his mother).

He then continues his jog after “looking at a house” and is ambushed by some neo-Nazis who wanted to lynch some innocent black guy that day, in broad daylight in their own neighborhood.

^^ Yea, that sounds *way* more plausible than he was caught trespassing and stealing from a home he had no business being in, panicked and attacked the neighborhood watch that had already called the cops at least twice.
great.

he got caught.

he never should have been shot and killed by joe average citizen.

you and many others seem to keep missing *that* point.
Well, he shouldn’t had charged right at a man with a shotgun.

Was the man supposed to let suspected thug take the shotgun from him?

Why did he have the shotgun pointed at the guy?
Same reason a cop would draw their weapon on a criminal trying to flee.

You cannot do that. When can a cop unholster their weapon?

Have a nice day!
When charged at by a criminal.
What crime did he commit?
He was In a dwelling he wasn’t supposed to be in. Felony in GA

Name the law that says he shouldn't have been there.

Do the vigilantes have psychic powers to know his intention was to steal something? The video is crap.
Was in there to look where he wanted to put the couch? Lol
No, people have a curiosity which drives them to look at construction sites. It's fairly common and no couch is involved.
The important thing is figuring out where he lived in relation to the area, and why he chose the area to run in as opposed to an area more suitable to his location of interest or residence lived at. Infact they all should be vetted in this way. Should answer alot of questions.

People can't run where they please? It's none of anyone else's business.
Maybe Arbery liked to run in this area because it was pleasant near the water. The owner of the house under construction said that he wanted it because the area was peaceful and gave him the opportunity for fishing and boating. I like to be around water, and just sit or walk on the beach.
He wasn’t jogging at all. The video shows him walking until he got to the house. He then stops, looks around, then runs up the driveway into the house. Clearly he intended to steal something.

So the video of him running is a figment of our imagination? What difference does it make anyway?

That was after he saw that neighbors spotted him in the house and called the police. So he bolted like criminals always do.

When did you get your degree in psychology? If so, you would know better than to make stupid assumptions.

How would he know the police had been called?
Because neighbors yelled at him and told him they called the police. The video even shows a neighbor across the street on the phone while watching him.

Who shot that video and how did he know who he was talking to? Can you tell who I am talking to on the phone right now?
Funny how you keep moving the goal posts.

There were multiple witnesses to the black burglary suspect. They called 9-1-1, they probably called other neighbors.

You are really pathetic making excuses for this burglar. The MSM and leftwing lies have been debunked. He wasn’t a “jogger”, he wasn’t wearing jogger clothes, he wasn’t running (he was walking), he was ten miles from where he lived. He wasn’t looking to buy the property, he was an unemployed, living with his mother, and had a criminal record. He was there to steal, period. Just because there wasn’t shit there, doesn’t mean he didn’t intend to steal something.

Ridiculous. The video at the house shows that he was leaving with nothing other than what he came in with. Many people stop to check out new construction. There was no "burglary" and no "burglary suspect." There is no way anyone can show "intent," i.e. mindset, in this case. I don't know why you are trying to spin this to destroy the deceased's character. Are you friends with the McMichaels or something?
“Many people” check out construction sites? Yea, thieves looking to steal shit.

You still can't make up intent. Again, are you friends with the McMichaels?
I don’t have to “make up” intent, it’s on video. A grown man running into a residence that isn’t his and looking around for five minutes is committing a crime.

Are you friends with Arbery?

It wasn't a "residence." Nobody lived there and it hadn't even been completed yet. Why do you persist on trying to make up criminal intent based on nothing? Also, please explain how the McMichaels viewed any videos before killing Arbery. Since they could not have viewed the homeowner's video and they couldn't have viewed Bryan's, either, what other videos were there before they killed Arbery?

I did not know Arbery and I do not know his family. We have no connection. I have no connection to the McMichaels, either, nor to any other person who was involved in any way in this case.
According to Georgia law, it is a dwelling regardless of anyone is there at the time. The property is a house. So it is trespassing and easily burglary.

You saying “based on nothing”. Video evidence of him sneaking into the house is proof, as much as you don’t want to admit it.

I don’t know how the McMichaels found out. Likely from a neighbor calling them, or they saw him on the property.

Or were they both out in their truck that day looking for a random black guy to lynch?

Funny how you keep questioning how I can claim the intent of Arbery, yet YOU can say you know the intent of the McMichaels was to murder Arbery. WHERE is your proof?
LOLOL

I like how you switched from "residence" to "dwelling" when your idiocy was exposed.
Merely pointing out the language used in the law. Tap dance all you want, doesn’t change the fact your homie was committing first degree burglary.
You cannot commit burglary without stealing something, dumbass.
Yes you can, that’s Georgia law. I already linked the law, and court case that proves it.
Too bad for you, you failed miserably to show Arbery intended to steal anything.

He's just been trying to gin up a story to support a false narrative. I'd like to see these mugs' police interviews like they show on true-crime shows. Real cops interview multiple suspects singly and make them tell their stories several times over to check for inconsistencies. I'm interested in what contact the guy who filmed the video had with the McMichaels, as he must have known something was going to happen or he would not have begun filming.
 
Does the OP have any shame at all?
You racist sob you turned it into something about Race when It was just two guys going after a man they saw leaving the house he broke into.. democrats have no limits to your racism

He walked into an open house that was under construction to have a look. He didn't break and enter anything. The police already determined that. Nobody lived there, and there were no furnishings or anything else. He broke no law by taking a peek at the new house being built.
how often do joggers go jogging in kahki shorts?

i'm going to wait for an entire story before i take a side. but as usual, left and right line up to face off, each having a side and someone screaming GO.


The libs did start this. Really, this story is about someone getting shot on the street in small Georgia city. Neither party to the shooting is connected, the motive has yet to be determined. Those who say the shooters are "white supremacists" are talking shit, as no one knows and it would seem unlikely. People get shot every day of the weeks somewhere, there was nothing remarkable about this , except for the race of the actors

Picking a story, and forcing it into a predetermined template is what the libs always do.
Actually what made this such a big story was because the killers were not being prosecuted. The crime occurred some 2 months ago but only became big news when video emerged showing they lied about how Arbery was hunted down.
What was the crime they committed?

They committed murder. The police already said the dead guy committed no crime.
Uh...there is video of the dead guy trespassing on private property. He may have also stolen the hammer seen in the video as well.

But you morons just don’t want to accept the common sense story that this thug got caught red-handed.

You’re sticking to your story that black guy with a criminal record living with his mom, went “jogging” wearing khaki shorts and oversized white t-shirt and high tops, with a hammer in his pocket for “protection”.
He noticed a home under construction while walking (he must had been tired from jogging with a hammer), decides he will “check it out” since there aren’t any explicit “no trespassing signs” and figures it’s for sale. (Even though he has no job and lives with his mother).

He then continues his jog after “looking at a house” and is ambushed by some neo-Nazis who wanted to lynch some innocent black guy that day, in broad daylight in their own neighborhood.

^^ Yea, that sounds *way* more plausible than he was caught trespassing and stealing from a home he had no business being in, panicked and attacked the neighborhood watch that had already called the cops at least twice.
great.

he got caught.

he never should have been shot and killed by joe average citizen.

you and many others seem to keep missing *that* point.
Well, he shouldn’t had charged right at a man with a shotgun.

Was the man supposed to let suspected thug take the shotgun from him?

Why did he have the shotgun pointed at the guy?
Same reason a cop would draw their weapon on a criminal trying to flee.

You cannot do that. When can a cop unholster their weapon?

Have a nice day!
When charged at by a criminal.
What crime did he commit?
He was In a dwelling he wasn’t supposed to be in. Felony in GA

Name the law that says he shouldn't have been there.
Does the OP have any shame at all?
You racist sob you turned it into something about Race when It was just two guys going after a man they saw leaving the house he broke into.. democrats have no limits to your racism

He walked into an open house that was under construction to have a look. He didn't break and enter anything. The police already determined that. Nobody lived there, and there were no furnishings or anything else. He broke no law by taking a peek at the new house being built.
how often do joggers go jogging in kahki shorts?

i'm going to wait for an entire story before i take a side. but as usual, left and right line up to face off, each having a side and someone screaming GO.


The libs did start this. Really, this story is about someone getting shot on the street in small Georgia city. Neither party to the shooting is connected, the motive has yet to be determined. Those who say the shooters are "white supremacists" are talking shit, as no one knows and it would seem unlikely. People get shot every day of the weeks somewhere, there was nothing remarkable about this , except for the race of the actors

Picking a story, and forcing it into a predetermined template is what the libs always do.
Actually what made this such a big story was because the killers were not being prosecuted. The crime occurred some 2 months ago but only became big news when video emerged showing they lied about how Arbery was hunted down.
What was the crime they committed?

They committed murder. The police already said the dead guy committed no crime.
Uh...there is video of the dead guy trespassing on private property. He may have also stolen the hammer seen in the video as well.

But you morons just don’t want to accept the common sense story that this thug got caught red-handed.

You’re sticking to your story that black guy with a criminal record living with his mom, went “jogging” wearing khaki shorts and oversized white t-shirt and high tops, with a hammer in his pocket for “protection”.
He noticed a home under construction while walking (he must had been tired from jogging with a hammer), decides he will “check it out” since there aren’t any explicit “no trespassing signs” and figures it’s for sale. (Even though he has no job and lives with his mother).

He then continues his jog after “looking at a house” and is ambushed by some neo-Nazis who wanted to lynch some innocent black guy that day, in broad daylight in their own neighborhood.

^^ Yea, that sounds *way* more plausible than he was caught trespassing and stealing from a home he had no business being in, panicked and attacked the neighborhood watch that had already called the cops at least twice.
great.

he got caught.

he never should have been shot and killed by joe average citizen.

you and many others seem to keep missing *that* point.
Well, he shouldn’t had charged right at a man with a shotgun.

Was the man supposed to let suspected thug take the shotgun from him?

Why did he have the shotgun pointed at the guy?
Same reason a cop would draw their weapon on a criminal trying to flee.

You cannot do that. When can a cop unholster their weapon?

Have a nice day!
When charged at by a criminal.
What crime did he commit?
He was In a dwelling he wasn’t supposed to be in. Felony in GA

Name the law that says he shouldn't have been there.

Do the vigilantes have psychic powers to know his intention was to steal something? The video is crap.
Was in there to look where he wanted to put the couch? Lol
No, people have a curiosity which drives them to look at construction sites. It's fairly common and no couch is involved.
The important thing is figuring out where he lived in relation to the area, and why he chose the area to run in as opposed to an area more suitable to his location of interest or residence lived at. Infact they all should be vetted in this way. Should answer alot of questions.

People can't run where they please? It's none of anyone else's business.
Maybe Arbery liked to run in this area because it was pleasant near the water. The owner of the house under construction said that he wanted it because the area was peaceful and gave him the opportunity for fishing and boating. I like to be around water, and just sit or walk on the beach.
He wasn’t jogging at all. The video shows him walking until he got to the house. He then stops, looks around, then runs up the driveway into the house. Clearly he intended to steal something.

So the video of him running is a figment of our imagination? What difference does it make anyway?

That was after he saw that neighbors spotted him in the house and called the police. So he bolted like criminals always do.

When did you get your degree in psychology? If so, you would know better than to make stupid assumptions.

How would he know the police had been called?
Because neighbors yelled at him and told him they called the police. The video even shows a neighbor across the street on the phone while watching him.

Who shot that video and how did he know who he was talking to? Can you tell who I am talking to on the phone right now?
Funny how you keep moving the goal posts.

There were multiple witnesses to the black burglary suspect. They called 9-1-1, they probably called other neighbors.

You are really pathetic making excuses for this burglar. The MSM and leftwing lies have been debunked. He wasn’t a “jogger”, he wasn’t wearing jogger clothes, he wasn’t running (he was walking), he was ten miles from where he lived. He wasn’t looking to buy the property, he was an unemployed, living with his mother, and had a criminal record. He was there to steal, period. Just because there wasn’t shit there, doesn’t mean he didn’t intend to steal something.

Ridiculous. The video at the house shows that he was leaving with nothing other than what he came in with. Many people stop to check out new construction. There was no "burglary" and no "burglary suspect." There is no way anyone can show "intent," i.e. mindset, in this case. I don't know why you are trying to spin this to destroy the deceased's character. Are you friends with the McMichaels or something?
“Many people” check out construction sites? Yea, thieves looking to steal shit.

You still can't make up intent. Again, are you friends with the McMichaels?
I don’t have to “make up” intent, it’s on video. A grown man running into a residence that isn’t his and looking around for five minutes is committing a crime.

Are you friends with Arbery?
What's the crime?
Trespassing for sure. Easily burglary too if authorities and owner wanted to press charges.

None of that matters now. Whether he was a burglar or not has no bearing on this case whatsoever, beyond Gregory McMichael saying he recognized Arbery from a video he saw. That may well be very, very true. But whatever crime took place in that video didn't take place in McMichael's presence and, therefore, he can't effect a citizen's arrest.

When the smoke clears and the dust settles, both McMichael boys will be found guilty. I suspect the father will get 10-15 years, simply because he didn't pull the trigger and was never in control of the vehicle which chased Arbery (so he could do nothing to stop the pursuit). The son will likely get life in prison or, if the state chooses to pursue it, the death penalty...
 
Merely pointing out the language used in the law. Tap dance all you want, doesn’t change the fact your homie was committing first degree burglary.

No, it really wasn't.

You would be well served to educate yourself about the law in Georgia if you care about whether or not you look like a buffoon...
 
Who had bad intentions the ones who called 911 or the criminal who attacked somebody with a gun?
 
Looks like The father and son tandem stopped Aubrey previously. After seeing him breaking the house again they decide at this time they all follow him until the cops come
 
Looks like The father and son tandem stopped Aubrey previously. After seeing him breaking the house again they decide at this time they all follow him until the cops come


Personally, I have no problem with neighborhood people protecting their communities with formal or informal block watches. And that's what happened here. It has nothing to do with race whatsoever. I agree with the Black Gestapo's goals in ridding White Crime out of Watts in Los Angeles back in the day as well, even though I disagree with their rhetoric.
 
Merely pointing out the language used in the law. Tap dance all you want, doesn’t change the fact your homie was committing first degree burglary.

No, it really wasn't.

You would be well served to educate yourself about the law in Georgia if you care about whether or not you look like a buffoon...
I did, and I provided links. Meanwhile you’ve got insults.

You commit First Degree Burglary if you enter or remain within an occupied, unoccupied, or vacant dwelling house of another or any building, railroad car, watercraft, aircraft, or other such structure for use as the dwelling of another without authority and with the intent to commit a felony or theft therein. O.C.G.A. §16-7-1.

 
Does the OP have any shame at all?
You racist sob you turned it into something about Race when It was just two guys going after a man they saw leaving the house he broke into.. democrats have no limits to your racism

He walked into an open house that was under construction to have a look. He didn't break and enter anything. The police already determined that. Nobody lived there, and there were no furnishings or anything else. He broke no law by taking a peek at the new house being built.
how often do joggers go jogging in kahki shorts?

i'm going to wait for an entire story before i take a side. but as usual, left and right line up to face off, each having a side and someone screaming GO.


The libs did start this. Really, this story is about someone getting shot on the street in small Georgia city. Neither party to the shooting is connected, the motive has yet to be determined. Those who say the shooters are "white supremacists" are talking shit, as no one knows and it would seem unlikely. People get shot every day of the weeks somewhere, there was nothing remarkable about this , except for the race of the actors

Picking a story, and forcing it into a predetermined template is what the libs always do.
Actually what made this such a big story was because the killers were not being prosecuted. The crime occurred some 2 months ago but only became big news when video emerged showing they lied about how Arbery was hunted down.
What was the crime they committed?

They committed murder. The police already said the dead guy committed no crime.
Uh...there is video of the dead guy trespassing on private property. He may have also stolen the hammer seen in the video as well.

But you morons just don’t want to accept the common sense story that this thug got caught red-handed.

You’re sticking to your story that black guy with a criminal record living with his mom, went “jogging” wearing khaki shorts and oversized white t-shirt and high tops, with a hammer in his pocket for “protection”.
He noticed a home under construction while walking (he must had been tired from jogging with a hammer), decides he will “check it out” since there aren’t any explicit “no trespassing signs” and figures it’s for sale. (Even though he has no job and lives with his mother).

He then continues his jog after “looking at a house” and is ambushed by some neo-Nazis who wanted to lynch some innocent black guy that day, in broad daylight in their own neighborhood.

^^ Yea, that sounds *way* more plausible than he was caught trespassing and stealing from a home he had no business being in, panicked and attacked the neighborhood watch that had already called the cops at least twice.
great.

he got caught.

he never should have been shot and killed by joe average citizen.

you and many others seem to keep missing *that* point.
Well, he shouldn’t had charged right at a man with a shotgun.

Was the man supposed to let suspected thug take the shotgun from him?

Why did he have the shotgun pointed at the guy?
Same reason a cop would draw their weapon on a criminal trying to flee.

You cannot do that. When can a cop unholster their weapon?

Have a nice day!
When charged at by a criminal.
What crime did he commit?
He was In a dwelling he wasn’t supposed to be in. Felony in GA

Name the law that says he shouldn't have been there.
Does the OP have any shame at all?
You racist sob you turned it into something about Race when It was just two guys going after a man they saw leaving the house he broke into.. democrats have no limits to your racism

He walked into an open house that was under construction to have a look. He didn't break and enter anything. The police already determined that. Nobody lived there, and there were no furnishings or anything else. He broke no law by taking a peek at the new house being built.
how often do joggers go jogging in kahki shorts?

i'm going to wait for an entire story before i take a side. but as usual, left and right line up to face off, each having a side and someone screaming GO.


The libs did start this. Really, this story is about someone getting shot on the street in small Georgia city. Neither party to the shooting is connected, the motive has yet to be determined. Those who say the shooters are "white supremacists" are talking shit, as no one knows and it would seem unlikely. People get shot every day of the weeks somewhere, there was nothing remarkable about this , except for the race of the actors

Picking a story, and forcing it into a predetermined template is what the libs always do.
Actually what made this such a big story was because the killers were not being prosecuted. The crime occurred some 2 months ago but only became big news when video emerged showing they lied about how Arbery was hunted down.
What was the crime they committed?

They committed murder. The police already said the dead guy committed no crime.
Uh...there is video of the dead guy trespassing on private property. He may have also stolen the hammer seen in the video as well.

But you morons just don’t want to accept the common sense story that this thug got caught red-handed.

You’re sticking to your story that black guy with a criminal record living with his mom, went “jogging” wearing khaki shorts and oversized white t-shirt and high tops, with a hammer in his pocket for “protection”.
He noticed a home under construction while walking (he must had been tired from jogging with a hammer), decides he will “check it out” since there aren’t any explicit “no trespassing signs” and figures it’s for sale. (Even though he has no job and lives with his mother).

He then continues his jog after “looking at a house” and is ambushed by some neo-Nazis who wanted to lynch some innocent black guy that day, in broad daylight in their own neighborhood.

^^ Yea, that sounds *way* more plausible than he was caught trespassing and stealing from a home he had no business being in, panicked and attacked the neighborhood watch that had already called the cops at least twice.
great.

he got caught.

he never should have been shot and killed by joe average citizen.

you and many others seem to keep missing *that* point.
Well, he shouldn’t had charged right at a man with a shotgun.

Was the man supposed to let suspected thug take the shotgun from him?

Why did he have the shotgun pointed at the guy?
Same reason a cop would draw their weapon on a criminal trying to flee.

You cannot do that. When can a cop unholster their weapon?

Have a nice day!
When charged at by a criminal.
What crime did he commit?
He was In a dwelling he wasn’t supposed to be in. Felony in GA

Name the law that says he shouldn't have been there.

Do the vigilantes have psychic powers to know his intention was to steal something? The video is crap.
Was in there to look where he wanted to put the couch? Lol
No, people have a curiosity which drives them to look at construction sites. It's fairly common and no couch is involved.
The important thing is figuring out where he lived in relation to the area, and why he chose the area to run in as opposed to an area more suitable to his location of interest or residence lived at. Infact they all should be vetted in this way. Should answer alot of questions.

People can't run where they please? It's none of anyone else's business.
Maybe Arbery liked to run in this area because it was pleasant near the water. The owner of the house under construction said that he wanted it because the area was peaceful and gave him the opportunity for fishing and boating. I like to be around water, and just sit or walk on the beach.
He wasn’t jogging at all. The video shows him walking until he got to the house. He then stops, looks around, then runs up the driveway into the house. Clearly he intended to steal something.

So the video of him running is a figment of our imagination? What difference does it make anyway?

That was after he saw that neighbors spotted him in the house and called the police. So he bolted like criminals always do.

When did you get your degree in psychology? If so, you would know better than to make stupid assumptions.

How would he know the police had been called?
Because neighbors yelled at him and told him they called the police. The video even shows a neighbor across the street on the phone while watching him.

Who shot that video and how did he know who he was talking to? Can you tell who I am talking to on the phone right now?
Funny how you keep moving the goal posts.

There were multiple witnesses to the black burglary suspect. They called 9-1-1, they probably called other neighbors.

You are really pathetic making excuses for this burglar. The MSM and leftwing lies have been debunked. He wasn’t a “jogger”, he wasn’t wearing jogger clothes, he wasn’t running (he was walking), he was ten miles from where he lived. He wasn’t looking to buy the property, he was an unemployed, living with his mother, and had a criminal record. He was there to steal, period. Just because there wasn’t shit there, doesn’t mean he didn’t intend to steal something.

Ridiculous. The video at the house shows that he was leaving with nothing other than what he came in with. Many people stop to check out new construction. There was no "burglary" and no "burglary suspect." There is no way anyone can show "intent," i.e. mindset, in this case. I don't know why you are trying to spin this to destroy the deceased's character. Are you friends with the McMichaels or something?
“Many people” check out construction sites? Yea, thieves looking to steal shit.

You still can't make up intent. Again, are you friends with the McMichaels?
I don’t have to “make up” intent, it’s on video. A grown man running into a residence that isn’t his and looking around for five minutes is committing a crime.

Are you friends with Arbery?

It wasn't a "residence." Nobody lived there and it hadn't even been completed yet. Why do you persist on trying to make up criminal intent based on nothing? Also, please explain how the McMichaels viewed any videos before killing Arbery. Since they could not have viewed the homeowner's video and they couldn't have viewed Bryan's, either, what other videos were there before they killed Arbery?

I did not know Arbery and I do not know his family. We have no connection. I have no connection to the McMichaels, either, nor to any other person who was involved in any way in this case.
According to Georgia law, it is a dwelling regardless of anyone is there at the time. The property is a house. So it is trespassing and easily burglary.

You saying “based on nothing”. Video evidence of him sneaking into the house is proof, as much as you don’t want to admit it.

I don’t know how the McMichaels found out. Likely from a neighbor calling them, or they saw him on the property.

Or were they both out in their truck that day looking for a random black guy to lynch?

Funny how you keep questioning how I can claim the intent of Arbery, yet YOU can say you know the intent of the McMichaels was to murder Arbery. WHERE is your proof?
LOLOL

I like how you switched from "residence" to "dwelling" when your idiocy was exposed.
Merely pointing out the language used in the law. Tap dance all you want, doesn’t change the fact your homie was committing first degree burglary.
You cannot commit burglary without stealing something, dumbass.
Yes you can, that’s Georgia law. I already linked the law, and court case that proves it.
Your inability to comprehend the written language is why you are dead wrong.
 
Merely pointing out the language used in the law. Tap dance all you want, doesn’t change the fact your homie was committing first degree burglary.

No, it really wasn't.

You would be well served to educate yourself about the law in Georgia if you care about whether or not you look like a buffoon...
I did, and I provided links. Meanwhile you’ve got insults.

You commit First Degree Burglary if you enter or remain within an occupied, unoccupied, or vacant dwelling house of another or any building, railroad car, watercraft, aircraft, or other such structure for use as the dwelling of another without authority and with the intent to commit a felony or theft therein. O.C.G.A. §16-7-1.

Good thing for Arbery he didn't do that.
 
Does the OP have any shame at all?
You racist sob you turned it into something about Race when It was just two guys going after a man they saw leaving the house he broke into.. democrats have no limits to your racism

He walked into an open house that was under construction to have a look. He didn't break and enter anything. The police already determined that. Nobody lived there, and there were no furnishings or anything else. He broke no law by taking a peek at the new house being built.
how often do joggers go jogging in kahki shorts?

i'm going to wait for an entire story before i take a side. but as usual, left and right line up to face off, each having a side and someone screaming GO.


The libs did start this. Really, this story is about someone getting shot on the street in small Georgia city. Neither party to the shooting is connected, the motive has yet to be determined. Those who say the shooters are "white supremacists" are talking shit, as no one knows and it would seem unlikely. People get shot every day of the weeks somewhere, there was nothing remarkable about this , except for the race of the actors

Picking a story, and forcing it into a predetermined template is what the libs always do.
Actually what made this such a big story was because the killers were not being prosecuted. The crime occurred some 2 months ago but only became big news when video emerged showing they lied about how Arbery was hunted down.
What was the crime they committed?

They committed murder. The police already said the dead guy committed no crime.
Uh...there is video of the dead guy trespassing on private property. He may have also stolen the hammer seen in the video as well.

But you morons just don’t want to accept the common sense story that this thug got caught red-handed.

You’re sticking to your story that black guy with a criminal record living with his mom, went “jogging” wearing khaki shorts and oversized white t-shirt and high tops, with a hammer in his pocket for “protection”.
He noticed a home under construction while walking (he must had been tired from jogging with a hammer), decides he will “check it out” since there aren’t any explicit “no trespassing signs” and figures it’s for sale. (Even though he has no job and lives with his mother).

He then continues his jog after “looking at a house” and is ambushed by some neo-Nazis who wanted to lynch some innocent black guy that day, in broad daylight in their own neighborhood.

^^ Yea, that sounds *way* more plausible than he was caught trespassing and stealing from a home he had no business being in, panicked and attacked the neighborhood watch that had already called the cops at least twice.
great.

he got caught.

he never should have been shot and killed by joe average citizen.

you and many others seem to keep missing *that* point.
Well, he shouldn’t had charged right at a man with a shotgun.

Was the man supposed to let suspected thug take the shotgun from him?

Why did he have the shotgun pointed at the guy?
Same reason a cop would draw their weapon on a criminal trying to flee.

You cannot do that. When can a cop unholster their weapon?

Have a nice day!
When charged at by a criminal.
What crime did he commit?
He was In a dwelling he wasn’t supposed to be in. Felony in GA

Name the law that says he shouldn't have been there.
Does the OP have any shame at all?
You racist sob you turned it into something about Race when It was just two guys going after a man they saw leaving the house he broke into.. democrats have no limits to your racism

He walked into an open house that was under construction to have a look. He didn't break and enter anything. The police already determined that. Nobody lived there, and there were no furnishings or anything else. He broke no law by taking a peek at the new house being built.
how often do joggers go jogging in kahki shorts?

i'm going to wait for an entire story before i take a side. but as usual, left and right line up to face off, each having a side and someone screaming GO.


The libs did start this. Really, this story is about someone getting shot on the street in small Georgia city. Neither party to the shooting is connected, the motive has yet to be determined. Those who say the shooters are "white supremacists" are talking shit, as no one knows and it would seem unlikely. People get shot every day of the weeks somewhere, there was nothing remarkable about this , except for the race of the actors

Picking a story, and forcing it into a predetermined template is what the libs always do.
Actually what made this such a big story was because the killers were not being prosecuted. The crime occurred some 2 months ago but only became big news when video emerged showing they lied about how Arbery was hunted down.
What was the crime they committed?

They committed murder. The police already said the dead guy committed no crime.
Uh...there is video of the dead guy trespassing on private property. He may have also stolen the hammer seen in the video as well.

But you morons just don’t want to accept the common sense story that this thug got caught red-handed.

You’re sticking to your story that black guy with a criminal record living with his mom, went “jogging” wearing khaki shorts and oversized white t-shirt and high tops, with a hammer in his pocket for “protection”.
He noticed a home under construction while walking (he must had been tired from jogging with a hammer), decides he will “check it out” since there aren’t any explicit “no trespassing signs” and figures it’s for sale. (Even though he has no job and lives with his mother).

He then continues his jog after “looking at a house” and is ambushed by some neo-Nazis who wanted to lynch some innocent black guy that day, in broad daylight in their own neighborhood.

^^ Yea, that sounds *way* more plausible than he was caught trespassing and stealing from a home he had no business being in, panicked and attacked the neighborhood watch that had already called the cops at least twice.
great.

he got caught.

he never should have been shot and killed by joe average citizen.

you and many others seem to keep missing *that* point.
Well, he shouldn’t had charged right at a man with a shotgun.

Was the man supposed to let suspected thug take the shotgun from him?

Why did he have the shotgun pointed at the guy?
Same reason a cop would draw their weapon on a criminal trying to flee.

You cannot do that. When can a cop unholster their weapon?

Have a nice day!
When charged at by a criminal.
What crime did he commit?
He was In a dwelling he wasn’t supposed to be in. Felony in GA

Name the law that says he shouldn't have been there.

Do the vigilantes have psychic powers to know his intention was to steal something? The video is crap.
Was in there to look where he wanted to put the couch? Lol
No, people have a curiosity which drives them to look at construction sites. It's fairly common and no couch is involved.
The important thing is figuring out where he lived in relation to the area, and why he chose the area to run in as opposed to an area more suitable to his location of interest or residence lived at. Infact they all should be vetted in this way. Should answer alot of questions.

People can't run where they please? It's none of anyone else's business.
Maybe Arbery liked to run in this area because it was pleasant near the water. The owner of the house under construction said that he wanted it because the area was peaceful and gave him the opportunity for fishing and boating. I like to be around water, and just sit or walk on the beach.
He wasn’t jogging at all. The video shows him walking until he got to the house. He then stops, looks around, then runs up the driveway into the house. Clearly he intended to steal something.

So the video of him running is a figment of our imagination? What difference does it make anyway?

That was after he saw that neighbors spotted him in the house and called the police. So he bolted like criminals always do.

When did you get your degree in psychology? If so, you would know better than to make stupid assumptions.

How would he know the police had been called?
Because neighbors yelled at him and told him they called the police. The video even shows a neighbor across the street on the phone while watching him.

Who shot that video and how did he know who he was talking to? Can you tell who I am talking to on the phone right now?
Funny how you keep moving the goal posts.

There were multiple witnesses to the black burglary suspect. They called 9-1-1, they probably called other neighbors.

You are really pathetic making excuses for this burglar. The MSM and leftwing lies have been debunked. He wasn’t a “jogger”, he wasn’t wearing jogger clothes, he wasn’t running (he was walking), he was ten miles from where he lived. He wasn’t looking to buy the property, he was an unemployed, living with his mother, and had a criminal record. He was there to steal, period. Just because there wasn’t shit there, doesn’t mean he didn’t intend to steal something.

Ridiculous. The video at the house shows that he was leaving with nothing other than what he came in with. Many people stop to check out new construction. There was no "burglary" and no "burglary suspect." There is no way anyone can show "intent," i.e. mindset, in this case. I don't know why you are trying to spin this to destroy the deceased's character. Are you friends with the McMichaels or something?
“Many people” check out construction sites? Yea, thieves looking to steal shit.

You still can't make up intent. Again, are you friends with the McMichaels?
I don’t have to “make up” intent, it’s on video. A grown man running into a residence that isn’t his and looking around for five minutes is committing a crime.

Are you friends with Arbery?
What's the crime?
Trespassing for sure. Easily burglary too if authorities and owner wanted to press charges.

None of that matters now. Whether he was a burglar or not has no bearing on this case whatsoever, beyond Gregory McMichael saying he recognized Arbery from a video he saw. That may well be very, very true. But whatever crime took place in that video didn't take place in McMichael's presence and, therefore, he can't effect a citizen's arrest.

When the smoke clears and the dust settles, both McMichael boys will be found guilty. I suspect the father will get 10-15 years, simply because he didn't pull the trigger and was never in control of the vehicle which chased Arbery (so he could do nothing to stop the pursuit). The son will likely get life in prison or, if the state chooses to pursue it, the death penalty...

I'm still wondering where that video is that the older McMichael said that he saw, which he must have viewed prior to the shooting, not that this would justify his actions or those of his son in any way. But timing is important here. I'm also curious at to what is on the computers in the McMichael house.
 
These perfect Trumpbots are going to die in prison, hopefully soon.


No one knows what the political bent of the accused are in this case, why the assumption they are Trump voters?

The fact that this incident happened in a majority-black city , with a Liberal black mayor, tells me that there is probably nothing here, or the libs would have busted these guys long before this week.
Why are you jumping to their defense? They made the decision to be vigilantes and now they will pay. Thousands of black men in the south ended up hanging from a tree because men just like these thought themselves worthy to be judge, jury and executioner. That shit will not be allowed to happen again. It's also a pretty safe bet these douchebags were Trump supporters, how could they not be?

They looked like Sleepy Joe supporters to me. Who says they were "vigilantes" even if they are guilty? You are just making stuff up, to fit your predetermined theory of what happened.
*If they were Trump supporters it would have been out there. That takes care of that.
 
Does the OP have any shame at all?
You racist sob you turned it into something about Race when It was just two guys going after a man they saw leaving the house he broke into.. democrats have no limits to your racism

He walked into an open house that was under construction to have a look. He didn't break and enter anything. The police already determined that. Nobody lived there, and there were no furnishings or anything else. He broke no law by taking a peek at the new house being built.
how often do joggers go jogging in kahki shorts?

i'm going to wait for an entire story before i take a side. but as usual, left and right line up to face off, each having a side and someone screaming GO.


The libs did start this. Really, this story is about someone getting shot on the street in small Georgia city. Neither party to the shooting is connected, the motive has yet to be determined. Those who say the shooters are "white supremacists" are talking shit, as no one knows and it would seem unlikely. People get shot every day of the weeks somewhere, there was nothing remarkable about this , except for the race of the actors

Picking a story, and forcing it into a predetermined template is what the libs always do.
Actually what made this such a big story was because the killers were not being prosecuted. The crime occurred some 2 months ago but only became big news when video emerged showing they lied about how Arbery was hunted down.
What was the crime they committed?

They committed murder. The police already said the dead guy committed no crime.
Uh...there is video of the dead guy trespassing on private property. He may have also stolen the hammer seen in the video as well.

But you morons just don’t want to accept the common sense story that this thug got caught red-handed.

You’re sticking to your story that black guy with a criminal record living with his mom, went “jogging” wearing khaki shorts and oversized white t-shirt and high tops, with a hammer in his pocket for “protection”.
He noticed a home under construction while walking (he must had been tired from jogging with a hammer), decides he will “check it out” since there aren’t any explicit “no trespassing signs” and figures it’s for sale. (Even though he has no job and lives with his mother).

He then continues his jog after “looking at a house” and is ambushed by some neo-Nazis who wanted to lynch some innocent black guy that day, in broad daylight in their own neighborhood.

^^ Yea, that sounds *way* more plausible than he was caught trespassing and stealing from a home he had no business being in, panicked and attacked the neighborhood watch that had already called the cops at least twice.
great.

he got caught.

he never should have been shot and killed by joe average citizen.

you and many others seem to keep missing *that* point.
Well, he shouldn’t had charged right at a man with a shotgun.

Was the man supposed to let suspected thug take the shotgun from him?

Why did he have the shotgun pointed at the guy?
Same reason a cop would draw their weapon on a criminal trying to flee.

You cannot do that. When can a cop unholster their weapon?

Have a nice day!
When charged at by a criminal.
What crime did he commit?
He was In a dwelling he wasn’t supposed to be in. Felony in GA

Name the law that says he shouldn't have been there.
Does the OP have any shame at all?
You racist sob you turned it into something about Race when It was just two guys going after a man they saw leaving the house he broke into.. democrats have no limits to your racism

He walked into an open house that was under construction to have a look. He didn't break and enter anything. The police already determined that. Nobody lived there, and there were no furnishings or anything else. He broke no law by taking a peek at the new house being built.
how often do joggers go jogging in kahki shorts?

i'm going to wait for an entire story before i take a side. but as usual, left and right line up to face off, each having a side and someone screaming GO.


The libs did start this. Really, this story is about someone getting shot on the street in small Georgia city. Neither party to the shooting is connected, the motive has yet to be determined. Those who say the shooters are "white supremacists" are talking shit, as no one knows and it would seem unlikely. People get shot every day of the weeks somewhere, there was nothing remarkable about this , except for the race of the actors

Picking a story, and forcing it into a predetermined template is what the libs always do.
Actually what made this such a big story was because the killers were not being prosecuted. The crime occurred some 2 months ago but only became big news when video emerged showing they lied about how Arbery was hunted down.
What was the crime they committed?

They committed murder. The police already said the dead guy committed no crime.
Uh...there is video of the dead guy trespassing on private property. He may have also stolen the hammer seen in the video as well.

But you morons just don’t want to accept the common sense story that this thug got caught red-handed.

You’re sticking to your story that black guy with a criminal record living with his mom, went “jogging” wearing khaki shorts and oversized white t-shirt and high tops, with a hammer in his pocket for “protection”.
He noticed a home under construction while walking (he must had been tired from jogging with a hammer), decides he will “check it out” since there aren’t any explicit “no trespassing signs” and figures it’s for sale. (Even though he has no job and lives with his mother).

He then continues his jog after “looking at a house” and is ambushed by some neo-Nazis who wanted to lynch some innocent black guy that day, in broad daylight in their own neighborhood.

^^ Yea, that sounds *way* more plausible than he was caught trespassing and stealing from a home he had no business being in, panicked and attacked the neighborhood watch that had already called the cops at least twice.
great.

he got caught.

he never should have been shot and killed by joe average citizen.

you and many others seem to keep missing *that* point.
Well, he shouldn’t had charged right at a man with a shotgun.

Was the man supposed to let suspected thug take the shotgun from him?

Why did he have the shotgun pointed at the guy?
Same reason a cop would draw their weapon on a criminal trying to flee.

You cannot do that. When can a cop unholster their weapon?

Have a nice day!
When charged at by a criminal.
What crime did he commit?
He was In a dwelling he wasn’t supposed to be in. Felony in GA

Name the law that says he shouldn't have been there.

Do the vigilantes have psychic powers to know his intention was to steal something? The video is crap.
Was in there to look where he wanted to put the couch? Lol
No, people have a curiosity which drives them to look at construction sites. It's fairly common and no couch is involved.
The important thing is figuring out where he lived in relation to the area, and why he chose the area to run in as opposed to an area more suitable to his location of interest or residence lived at. Infact they all should be vetted in this way. Should answer alot of questions.
He lived a mile away.
That's common, so he's definitely in the zone to jog. Wonder where the two in the pick up lived or was from ?
About 5 houses south of the one under construction.
Everyone from close by eh ? Not good.. Could be a long standing grudge or something. Who knows, but it will come out.
 
It's time to close mouths about the Arbery murder.

THE KILLING OF AHMAUD ARBERY

The guy who owns the under-construction house that Arbery is on video looking at says that nothing was ever stolen:

Larry English, the man who owns the house under construction, told The Washington Post that the structure was not robbed.

“That’s completely wrong. I’ve never had a police report or anything stolen from my property, or any kind of robbery,” he said.

English also adamantly denies ever using the phrase “burglary” with police.

More...

At some point during all this, Gregory McMichael was outside at his son’s Satilla Drive home when he saw Arbery running down the street, he told police. He ran inside, armed himself and told his son to grab a gun, Gregory McMichael told police. He said they had seen Arbery on surveillance cameras. The two men got into his son’s pickup truck and caught up to Arbery at Burford Road and Satilla Drive, he told police. After asking Arbery several times to stop, Travis McMichael stepped out of the truck with a shotgun, Gregory McMichael told police.

The video shows Arbery approaching McMichael’s truck (presumably they sped ahead of him and stopped their truck in his path) before Travis McMichael got out of the truck with his shotgun and confronted Arbery.

If the McMichaels’s belief was that Arbery was a burglar based on having seen him enter a construction site that isn’t enough to legitimize their accusation (I’ve been out on walks before and have looked at construction sites, for crying out loud. Who hasn’t?). At best it’s trespassing but with no way to prove intent, the accusation of burglary doesn’t stand.

Georgia does not make it easy for citizens to go around arresting each other.
Citizens are entitled to use reasonable force to arrest people who have committed crimes in their presence or immediate knowledge (courts have held that these are synonymous). Here is the statute:

“A private person may arrest an offender if the offense is committed in his presence or within his immediate knowledge. If the offense is a felony and the offender is escaping or attempting to escape, a private person may arrest him upon reasonable and probable grounds of suspicion.”

The most important part of this statute is the unwritten bit — you are allowed to make arrests only with “reasonable force.” You can’t burn down an orphanage to catch one child snatching extra bowls of gruel. And the Georgia Supreme Court has held, as a matter of law, that you can’t chase someone down with a weapon because you think they have committed burglary.

MORE...

As it is elsewhere in the country, so too is it illegal in Georgia to point the barrel of your gun at someone, loaded or unloaded, without any legal justification.

Some argued that Travis McMichael had the right to use lethal force when Arbery crossed in front of the truck. This argument doesn’t make sense to me. Here’s why: In the video Arbery looked as though he was going to run on the right side of the truck to avoid the driver. When Travis McMichael exited his truck with his shotgun, went around the open driver’s side door to the front of the truck, that’s when Arbery crossed. While the younger McMichael and his shotgun are out of frame at this point, I can only extrapolate on this from the perspective of placing myself in Arbey’s situation at that moment: If I’m running, walking, whatever, and I see two men (with one standing in the back of the truck like he’s in a parade) who followed me and then pulled into my oncoming path while demanding I stop to talk with them, and one comes out with a shotgun? I’m going to fear for my safety. If one points the barrel at me you’re damn right I’m going to go for control of that barrel because there is no way on foot I’m going to outrun two guys in a truck. I’m amazed that some think Arbery should have extended the benefit of the doubt to the McMichaels when the McMichaels did not extend that courtesy to Arbery. And no — private citizens do not have the right to stop the actions or movement of other private citizens and if someone in a vehicle demands you stop to talk to them you are under zero obligation — legal or otherwise — to do so. Besides, doing so would violate every single “stranger danger” lesson I ever learned in school.

Those who say that the McMichaels have their right of armed self defense apparently don’t realize that it can also be viewed that Arbery also had his right of self defense and I’m pretty sure felt as though his life was in danger the moment Travis McMichael stopped his truck in the road and got out to confront him with his shotgun.


This is from Dana Loesch for all here who want to make shit into a liberal thing. Arbery was murdered by 2 white men because he was black and they automatically thought he was a criminal. He did not attack anyone who was not threatening his life. That's what happened.
If all true, then I agree. Now the person who owns the site in question says no burglary there, and if he isn't placed at any other location alledgedly burglarizing it, then possibly the two in the truck may have committed a hate crime based on assumptions that were completely wrong on their part. They will ultimately pay the price. Now the larger picture is what do you learn from this IM2 ? It's learned that work must continue on both sides to correct the bad that exist on both sides. Don't just say this is a white problem, because it goes both ways in creating the stereotypes.
But this is a white problem. What have you learned? Because these things happen and there is no national outcry. While this case gets the headlines we have this killing of a black man by a white man who killed an unarmed black man claiming he feared for his life too.

Anthony Trifiletti charged for killing unarmed black man in St. Paul

Anthony Trifiletti told St. Paul police he felt threatened with death by a man he believed to be an armed gang member before firing his own gun in self defense, according to charges filed in Ramsey County against Trifiletti on Monday.

Trifiletti, 24, is facing a count of second-degree murder for killing Doug Lewis, 39, after a Friday night traffic incident that started with Lewis rear-ending Trifiletti's truck in a fender bender.

Lewis's sister Valerie tells the Star Tribune her brother was a father of four who made a living as a delivery driver for 1-800-Got-Junk, Amazon, and DoorDash. She also said Trifiletti's explanation for the shooting sounds familiar.

"White people can get away with killing a black man by saying they were afraid," Valerie Lewis said.

The accident occurred near the intersection of Highway 61 and Burns Avenue, which the two drivers pulled onto and exited their vehicles. Trifiletti, who lives in Watertown, took pictures of the damage to his pickup truck, and later told police the two men started arguing when he tried getting Lewis's insurance information.

Both he and a friend present say they heard Lewis say, "I'm GD," which they took to mean he was a gang member. Other witnesses say they didn't hear this from Lewis.

Eventually Trifiletti and Lewis got back in their cars, Lewis pulling out first and Trifiletti "unintentionally" following behind him, according to the charges. Lewis put his car in park, got out, and came toward Trifiletti, who grabbed a handgun he was permitted to carry and fired at Lewis, hitting him four times.

Trifiletti drove off as witnesses called 911 and tried to stop Lewis's bleeding. An ambulance delivered Lewis to Regions Hospital, where he was declared dead.

Trifiletti, apparently acting on the advice of his father, returned to the scene and turned himself in. He told police he didn't think he could drive away from the situation or simply stay in his car, and "feared for his life," in the Strib's words. Trifiletti says he saw Lewis "reaching for his waistband" as he approached the truck. Lewis was found to be unarmed.


Both sides do not have a 243 year record of killing other humans for anything they can make up without facing criminal penalties. In America whites do There ain't too many blacks who get to shoot a white man and walk because they claim they were defending themselves and feared for their lives. Those films you guys spend days looking for where blacks are beating up whites aren't films where those blacks don't serve time. So don't even try it. Because you want to make our reaction to 400 years of various types of racism exhibited by whites the same as the racism and that just is not so.
You and your black white bullcrap is signs of a sick person. Get help.... What you posted was a highway rage situation that escalated into a gun fight where unfortunately a person went stupid and another lost their life. Yes it was unfortunate, and the color of their skins had nothing to do with it, other than the guy figuring that he could use color as an excuse coupling that with gang association to boot. Neither worked because the justice system is 99.9999 % smarter than that sort of bullcrap being attempted by either side these days. Hopefully the guy got what was coming to him for what he did if was found guilty in the case.

Your bullcrap usage of 400 years somehow justifying all actions of Black's being bad is to be somehow over looked ain't happening, so getting back at the man ain't no proper defense strategy to be used either, now go read some more brainwashing material, because that swollen head has plenty of hollow areas still left to fill up. LOL
My white/black stuff is the reality of America. I think you need to do the studying I have before you talk your white opinionated bullshit. Do you not think that years of continuing racism do not have an effect on blacks? And the situation I posted was a white dude who admitted to killing a black guy claiming he feared for his life because he thought the black guy was a gang member. The color of skin had everything to do with it. You need to study things. Your condition is rather obvious.

Colour-blind racism (1970- ), also known as aversive racism, is racism that acts as if skin colour does not matter – even when it does. It is the most common form of racism among white Americans who grew up after the fall of Jim Crow in the 1960s.

I don't justify all acts of blacks being bad and you try claiming color never has anything to do with things when it is apparent that it is all about race. If you studied racism for what it really is and not what you make yourself believe it is, then you understand why I say things are caused by white racism. You appear to think racism is just name calling and people wearing klan outfits. You don't seem to consider the psychological impact of the abuse that racism really is.

“Bryant-Davis and Ocampo (2005) noted similar courses of psychopathology between rape victims and victims of racism. Both events are an assault on the personhood and integrity of the victim. Similar to rape victims, race-related trauma victims may respond with disbelief, shock, or dissociation, which can prevent them from responding to the incident in a healthy manner. The victim may then feel shame and self-blame because they were unable to respond or defend themselves, which may lead to low self-concept and self-destructive behaviors. In the same study, a parallel was drawn between race-related trauma victims and victims of domestic violence. Both survivors are made to feel shame over allowing themselves to be victimized. For instance, someone who may have experienced a racist incident may be told that if they are polite, work hard, and/or dress in a certain way, they will not encounter racism. When these rules are followed yet racism persists, powerlessness, hyper vigilance, and other symptoms associated with PTSD may develop or worsen (Bryant-Davis & Ocampo, 2005).”

Whites like you try dismissing racism because you don't face it and don't want to believe whites are doing it now. Even as you have posted loads of racist crap yourself you still want to declare how race doesn't matter to you.

“On occasion, the emotional weight of racism can lead African Americans to engage in maladaptive coping, such as remaining in denial, engaging in substance use, aggression, self-blame – even in extreme cases suicide (i.e., Black Lives Matter activist Marshawn McCarrel) and terrorism (i.e., Dallas shooter Micah Xavier Johnson). These responses are harmful and lead to negative, long-term consequences.”

Monnica T. Williams Ph.D.
Findings from large-scale national studies indicate that, while African Americans have a lower risk for many anxiety disorders, they have a 9.1% prevalence rate for PTSD, compared to 6.8% in Whites (Himle et al, 2009). That means that almost one in ten Black people becomes traumatized, and I think these rates may actually be higher since diagnosticians are usually not considering the role of racism in causing trauma (Malcoun, Williams, & Bahojb-Nouri, 2015).

In standard white racist fashion you run your mouth off just to argue because you don't know what the hell you are talking about.

"Because most whites have not been trained to think with complexity about racism, and because it benefits white dominance not to do so, we have a very limited understanding of it (Kumashiro, 2009; LaDuke, 2009). We are the least likely to see, comprehend, or be invested in validating people of color’s assertions of racism and being honest about their consequences (King, 1991). At the same time, because of white social, economic, and political power within a white dominant culture, whites are the group in the position to legitimize people of color’s assertions of racism.Being in this position engenders a form of racial arrogance, and in this racial arrogance, whites have little compunction about debating the knowledge of people who have thought deeply about race through research, study, peer-reviewed scholarship, deep and on-going critical self-reflection, interracial relationships, and lived experience (Chinnery, 2008). This expertise is often trivialized and countered with simplistic platitudes, such as “people just need to see each other as individuals” or “see each other as humans” or “take personal responsibility.”

White lack of racial humility often leads to declarations of disagreement when in fact the problem is that we do not understand. Whites generally feel free to dismiss informed perspectives rather than have the humility to acknowledge that they are unfamiliar, reflect on them further, seek more information, or sustain a dialogue
(DiAngelo & Sensoy, 2009)."
Good grief, the IM2 1800s reincarnated slave goes on yet another rant in modern day society... Get with the picture man, and quit with your crying victim cards already.
 

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