Viktor Shokin: Biden outraged we seized Burisma assets

[busybee01]

The US provides foreign aid to 92 countries. Many, if not most, suffer from rampant corruption.

And yet the only thing Trump has ever asked to be investigated was Burisma, where Joe Biden's son worked. Not all the other corruption in Ukraine, just the Biden thing.

That's because Burisma did involve Biden. It's pretty suspicious that a drug addict with no interactions of a country where he didn't know the language, or the business that hired him, was paid multi-million dollars to sit home in the US and call himself a board member.

There are a lot of people who sit on boards who attend a meeting a few times a year and call them board members. The fact that he knows how to raise business capital might be of interest to a foreign company. You have not pointed out anything illegal.

Hunter knows how to raise capital to buy cocaine and pay for prostitution services. Treating that as a qualification for a cushy job in Kiev for big bucks is a stretch.

But I'd like to hear Mr. Biden talk about it, when and if he is called to testify in a Senate trial. After all, its a perfectly acceptable defense if Mr. Biden is guilty of crimes in Ukraine for President Trump to ask his good friend to investigate.

Rush Limbaugh is a druggie. Why should he have a cushie job. What Hunter Biden does in his private life is none of anyone's business.

Even Senate Republicans will not go there. They are not going to turn this into a circus. If they tried, I would tell them to go to hell.

Rush Limbaugh doesn't have a cushy job at all.

He's on the air 3 hours a day, 5 days a week. does morning updates, gets interviewed on FOX regularly, does various promotions and charity events, as well as political speeches.

Your guy is a druggie and that is okay. Someone you don't like has a drug problem. You apparently support druggies.

 

[busybee01]

I just want to ask all you anti-Trump people a question here. I'm really not expecting an honest answer, just curious as to what they will be:

At your job, the son of your supervisor gets a promotion everybody wanted. It's the highest paid position in that part of the company. He has no experience at it, he's never been part of that operation at the plant, and he has been known to have a lot of personal challenges in his life.

Would you conclude that it was dumb luck, or that the supervisor--being close to the management, got him that job?

Do you mean like Jarod and Ivanka, being put in to govt positions with zero gvt experience? Well conveted by hard working gov't employees that have worked a lifetime to get the positions in the whit house that Jarod and Ivanka were handed on a silver platter?

Or like Ambassador position for the EU, being handed to a man with ZERO EXPERIENCE as a diplomat, who simply 've a million dollars to the Trump inaugural , like Ambassador mainland, while dedicated diplomats have worked a near quarter century to earn the covetted ambassadorship?

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Trump would never deny putting those people in those positions. If Biden put his son in charge of managing his campaign for two million dollars a year, it's his money and there are no potential kickbacks. Nobody would care on either side.

And it's not only that Joe got Hunter that job, and that Burisma (a corrupt company) used Hunter's name to try and get a meeting with the state department, but they also got their government to keep their nose out of their dirty business thanks to Joe; if what Shokin says is valid.

Shokin has no credibility. You apparently think you know more than Ukrainians who wanted him out because of his corruption.

 

[Polishprince]

That's because Burisma did involve Biden. It's pretty suspicious that a drug addict with no interactions of a country where he didn't know the language, or the business that hired him, was paid multi-million dollars to sit home in the US and call himself a board member.

There are a lot of people who sit on boards who attend a meeting a few times a year and call them board members. The fact that he knows how to raise business capital might be of interest to a foreign company. You have not pointed out anything illegal.

Hunter knows how to raise capital to buy cocaine and pay for prostitution services. Treating that as a qualification for a cushy job in Kiev for big bucks is a stretch.

But I'd like to hear Mr. Biden talk about it, when and if he is called to testify in a Senate trial. After all, its a perfectly acceptable defense if Mr. Biden is guilty of crimes in Ukraine for President Trump to ask his good friend to investigate.

Rush Limbaugh is a druggie. Why should he have a cushie job. What Hunter Biden does in his private life is none of anyone's business.

Even Senate Republicans will not go there. They are not going to turn this into a circus. If they tried, I would tell them to go to hell.

Rush Limbaugh doesn't have a cushy job at all.

He's on the air 3 hours a day, 5 days a week. does morning updates, gets interviewed on FOX regularly, does various promotions and charity events, as well as political speeches.

Your guy is a druggie and that is okay. Someone you don't like has a drug problem. You apparently support druggies.

I was contesting your assertion that Mr. Limbaugh has a "cushy" job. I don't think so.

 

[busybee01]

That has to be evidence or suspicious behavior. Biden did not profit by it. Hunter Biden was never under investigation. The fact is that the DOJ has no basis for opening a investigation and that is with a partisan hack like Barr as AG.

How do you know Hunter Biden wasn't under investigation?

If a disreputable person like Biden- someone with connections to the cocaine and prostitution rackets- came to a jurisdiction, most local officials would keep a close eye on his sleazy ass.

The fact is that he was not. That has been confirmed by Ukrainian officials. The prosecutor who replaced Shokin has said that Hunter Biden has not broken any Ukrainian laws.

If Hunter Biden is truly innocent as you contend, he should have an opportunity to prove it beyond a shadow of a doubt.

And that's all that President Trump has ever asked for.

American citizens should not be harassed just because his father is running for President. There is not a shred of evidence to back a investigation.

Actually, there is plenty of evidence. Biden's own bragging about getting rid of the prosecutor. Hunter Biden's suspicious job that he wasn't qualified for. Hunter Biden's drug and prostitution habits.

Suppose Hunter Biden stayed in a Kiev hotel in the same room that Trump stayed in previously. Hunter knows the prostitutes already and would have no problem paying them to ruin the mattresses. Shouldn't that be investigated? It would certainly be enough to get a FISA warrant to surveil him.

There is nothing suspicious about his job. There is no evidence whatsoever. A prosecutor that the EU, IMF, our state department and Ukrainians wanted out because he was corrupt,.

 

[Polishprince]

How do you know Hunter Biden wasn't under investigation?

If a disreputable person like Biden- someone with connections to the cocaine and prostitution rackets- came to a jurisdiction, most local officials would keep a close eye on his sleazy ass.

The fact is that he was not. That has been confirmed by Ukrainian officials. The prosecutor who replaced Shokin has said that Hunter Biden has not broken any Ukrainian laws.

If Hunter Biden is truly innocent as you contend, he should have an opportunity to prove it beyond a shadow of a doubt.

And that's all that President Trump has ever asked for.

American citizens should not be harassed just because his father is running for President. There is not a shred of evidence to back a investigation.

Actually, there is plenty of evidence. Biden's own bragging about getting rid of the prosecutor. Hunter Biden's suspicious job that he wasn't qualified for. Hunter Biden's drug and prostitution habits.

Suppose Hunter Biden stayed in a Kiev hotel in the same room that Trump stayed in previously. Hunter knows the prostitutes already and would have no problem paying them to ruin the mattresses. Shouldn't that be investigated? It would certainly be enough to get a FISA warrant to surveil him.

There is nothing suspicious about his job. There is no evidence whatsoever. A prosecutor that the EU, IMF, our state department and Ukrainians wanted out because he was corrupt,.

If there is nothing suspicious about Hunter Biden's job, if he was worth every die he was paid, good. Investigating him will give him a chance to prove his innocence.

 

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[Ray From Cleveland]

How do you know Hunter Biden wasn't under investigation?

If a disreputable person like Biden- someone with connections to the cocaine and prostitution rackets- came to a jurisdiction, most local officials would keep a close eye on his sleazy ass.

The fact is that he was not. That has been confirmed by Ukrainian officials. The prosecutor who replaced Shokin has said that Hunter Biden has not broken any Ukrainian laws.

If Hunter Biden is truly innocent as you contend, he should have an opportunity to prove it beyond a shadow of a doubt.

And that's all that President Trump has ever asked for.

American citizens should not be harassed just because his father is running for President. There is not a shred of evidence to back a investigation.

Actually, there is plenty of evidence. Biden's own bragging about getting rid of the prosecutor. Hunter Biden's suspicious job that he wasn't qualified for. Hunter Biden's drug and prostitution habits.

Suppose Hunter Biden stayed in a Kiev hotel in the same room that Trump stayed in previously. Hunter knows the prostitutes already and would have no problem paying them to ruin the mattresses. Shouldn't that be investigated? It would certainly be enough to get a FISA warrant to surveil him.

There is nothing suspicious about his job. There is no evidence whatsoever. A prosecutor that the EU, IMF, our state department and Ukrainians wanted out because he was corrupt,.

Nothing suspicious about his job?

* Hunter no previous dealings in the country.
* No experience in energy.
* He is the son of the former Vice President of the United States.
* His father was chosen to oversee Ukrainian matters.
* He was the highest paid board member in spite of his inexperience.
* He didn't even understand the language.
* He was paid 83,000 a month to sit home in the US.
* The prosecutor that his father had fired claims he was indeed looking into money laundering by Hunter.
* Joe's tax returns revealed that he earned over 15 million dollars since he left the Obama administration.

Nothing to see here folks.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I just want to ask all you anti-Trump people a question here. I'm really not expecting an honest answer, just curious as to what they will be:

At your job, the son of your supervisor gets a promotion everybody wanted. It's the highest paid position in that part of the company. He has no experience at it, he's never been part of that operation at the plant, and he has been known to have a lot of personal challenges in his life.

Would you conclude that it was dumb luck, or that the supervisor--being close to the management, got him that job?

Do you mean like Jarod and Ivanka, being put in to govt positions with zero gvt experience? Well conveted by hard working gov't employees that have worked a lifetime to get the positions in the whit house that Jarod and Ivanka were handed on a silver platter?

Or like Ambassador position for the EU, being handed to a man with ZERO EXPERIENCE as a diplomat, who simply 've a million dollars to the Trump inaugural , like Ambassador mainland, while dedicated diplomats have worked a near quarter century to earn the covetted ambassadorship?

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Trump would never deny putting those people in those positions. If Biden put his son in charge of managing his campaign for two million dollars a year, it's his money and there are no potential kickbacks. Nobody would care on either side.

And it's not only that Joe got Hunter that job, and that Burisma (a corrupt company) used Hunter's name to try and get a meeting with the state department, but they also got their government to keep their nose out of their dirty business thanks to Joe; if what Shokin says is valid.

Shokin has no credibility. You apparently think you know more than Ukrainians who wanted him out because of his corruption.

Or the Ukrainians wanted him out to get the money via quid pro quo by Joe Biden.

So let's see, we have a corrupt Prosecutor General, and the Democrats. Which is more trusting? I'm going with Shokin.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

That's because Burisma did involve Biden. It's pretty suspicious that a drug addict with no interactions of a country where he didn't know the language, or the business that hired him, was paid multi-million dollars to sit home in the US and call himself a board member.

There are a lot of people who sit on boards who attend a meeting a few times a year and call them board members. The fact that he knows how to raise business capital might be of interest to a foreign company. You have not pointed out anything illegal.

Hunter knows how to raise capital to buy cocaine and pay for prostitution services. Treating that as a qualification for a cushy job in Kiev for big bucks is a stretch.

But I'd like to hear Mr. Biden talk about it, when and if he is called to testify in a Senate trial. After all, its a perfectly acceptable defense if Mr. Biden is guilty of crimes in Ukraine for President Trump to ask his good friend to investigate.

Rush Limbaugh is a druggie. Why should he have a cushie job. What Hunter Biden does in his private life is none of anyone's business.

Even Senate Republicans will not go there. They are not going to turn this into a circus. If they tried, I would tell them to go to hell.

Rush Limbaugh doesn't have a cushy job at all.

He's on the air 3 hours a day, 5 days a week. does morning updates, gets interviewed on FOX regularly, does various promotions and charity events, as well as political speeches.

Your guy is a druggie and that is okay. Someone you don't like has a drug problem. You apparently support druggies.

So you shoot off your mouth about Limbaugh being a druggie, and support Joe and his son who was not only kicked out the military for his addiction, but also had to enter rehab three different times as well.

People in glass houses........

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

It has not been proven right. The investigation was closed by Shokin before Biden went to Ukraine. That is why his resignation was demanded by the US.

So the US demanded that Shokin be fired because he was not investigating the company that was paying Hunter $83,000 a month. Well.......now that you put it that way, that certainly makes sense.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

The US provides foreign aid to 92 countries. Many, if not most, suffer from rampant corruption.

And yet the only thing Trump has ever asked to be investigated was Burisma, where Joe Biden's son worked. Not all the other corruption in Ukraine, just the Biden thing.

That's because Burisma did involve Biden. It's pretty suspicious that a drug addict with no interactions of a country where he didn't know the language, or the business that hired him, was paid multi-million dollars to sit home in the US and call himself a board member.

There are a lot of people who sit on boards who attend a meeting a few times a year and call them board members. The fact that he knows how to raise business capital might be of interest to a foreign company. You have not pointed out anything illegal.

A lot of them? Then name me three; three people with no connections that were hired by a company, in a foreign nation, with no experience in their industry, that were paid 83K a month.

 

[Care4all]

The US provides foreign aid to 92 countries. Many, if not most, suffer from rampant corruption.

And yet the only thing Trump has ever asked to be investigated was Burisma, where Joe Biden's son worked. Not all the other corruption in Ukraine, just the Biden thing.

That's because Burisma did involve Biden. It's pretty suspicious that a drug addict with no interactions of a country where he didn't know the language, or the business that hired him, was paid multi-million dollars to sit home in the US and call himself a board member.

There are a lot of people who sit on boards who attend a meeting a few times a year and call them board members. The fact that he knows how to raise business capital might be of interest to a foreign company. You have not pointed out anything illegal.

Hunter knows how to raise capital to buy cocaine and pay for prostitution services. Treating that as a qualification for a cushy job in Kiev for big bucks is a stretch.

But I'd like to hear Mr. Biden talk about it, when and if he is called to testify in a Senate trial. After all, its a perfectly acceptable defense if Mr. Biden is guilty of crimes in Ukraine for President Trump to ask his good friend to investigate.

NO, IT IS NOT PERFECTLY OK.

 

[Care4all]

The US provides foreign aid to 92 countries. Many, if not most, suffer from rampant corruption.

And yet the only thing Trump has ever asked to be investigated was Burisma, where Joe Biden's son worked. Not all the other corruption in Ukraine, just the Biden thing.

That's because Burisma did involve Biden. It's pretty suspicious that a drug addict with no interactions of a country where he didn't know the language, or the business that hired him, was paid multi-million dollars to sit home in the US and call himself a board member.

There are a lot of people who sit on boards who attend a meeting a few times a year and call them board members. The fact that he knows how to raise business capital might be of interest to a foreign company. You have not pointed out anything illegal.

A lot of them? Then name me three; three people with no connections that were hired by a company, in a foreign nation, with no experience in their industry, that were paid 83K a month.

What was he hired for, Ray... Do you know?

 

[Care4all]

It has not been proven right. The investigation was closed by Shokin before Biden went to Ukraine. That is why his resignation was demanded by the US.

So the US demanded that Shokin be fired because he was not investigating the company that was paying Hunter $83,000 a month. Well.......now that you put it that way, that certainly makes sense.

Hunter was not paid $83k a month.... BOTH Hunter AND his business partner were board members...That money to their company each month was for both of them.

 

[Care4all]

I just want to ask all you anti-Trump people a question here. I'm really not expecting an honest answer, just curious as to what they will be:

At your job, the son of your supervisor gets a promotion everybody wanted. It's the highest paid position in that part of the company. He has no experience at it, he's never been part of that operation at the plant, and he has been known to have a lot of personal challenges in his life.

Would you conclude that it was dumb luck, or that the supervisor--being close to the management, got him that job?

Do you mean like Jarod and Ivanka, being put in to govt positions with zero gvt experience? Well conveted by hard working gov't employees that have worked a lifetime to get the positions in the whit house that Jarod and Ivanka were handed on a silver platter?

Or like Ambassador position for the EU, being handed to a man with ZERO EXPERIENCE as a diplomat, who simply 've a million dollars to the Trump inaugural , like Ambassador mainland, while dedicated diplomats have worked a near quarter century to earn the covetted ambassadorship?

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Trump would never deny putting those people in those positions. If Biden put his son in charge of managing his campaign for two million dollars a year, it's his money and there are no potential kickbacks. Nobody would care on either side.

And it's not only that Joe got Hunter that job, and that Burisma (a corrupt company) used Hunter's name to try and get a meeting with the state department, but they also got their government to keep their nose out of their dirty business thanks to Joe; if what Shokin says is valid.

Shokin has no credibility. You apparently think you know more than Ukrainians who wanted him out because of his corruption.

Or the Ukrainians wanted him out to get the money via quid pro quo by Joe Biden.

So let's see, we have a corrupt Prosecutor General, and the Democrats. Which is more trusting? I'm going with Shokin.

Seriously, Ray? You have lost your mind!!!!

Oh, and so much for due process, probable cause, and all that jazz.... You take a foreign, Russian mob associated crook' s word over VP Biden? Shame on you!!!

 

[Care4all]

The US provides foreign aid to 92 countries. Many, if not most, suffer from rampant corruption.

And yet the only thing Trump has ever asked to be investigated was Burisma, where Joe Biden's son worked. Not all the other corruption in Ukraine, just the Biden thing.

That's because Burisma did involve Biden. It's pretty suspicious that a drug addict with no interactions of a country where he didn't know the language, or the business that hired him, was paid multi-million dollars to sit home in the US and call himself a board member.

There are a lot of people who sit on boards who attend a meeting a few times a year and call them board members. The fact that he knows how to raise business capital might be of interest to a foreign company. You have not pointed out anything illegal.

A lot of them? Then name me three; three people with no connections that were hired by a company, in a foreign nation, with no experience in their industry, that were paid 83K a month.

Go ahead and research who the other Burisma board members were at the time of Hunter, and how much they were paid... What they did in life, to get their board seats....

 

[iceberg]

It has not been proven right. The investigation was closed by Shokin before Biden went to Ukraine. That is why his resignation was demanded by the US.

So the US demanded that Shokin be fired because he was not investigating the company that was paying Hunter $83,000 a month. Well.......now that you put it that way, that certainly makes sense.

Hunter was not paid $83k a month.... BOTH Hunter AND his business partner were board members...That money to their company each month was for both of them.

and what again were the services provided for the fees/salary paid?

 

[g5000]

The US provides foreign aid to 92 countries. Many, if not most, suffer from rampant corruption.

And yet the only thing Trump has ever asked to be investigated was Burisma, where Joe Biden's son worked. Not all the other corruption in Ukraine, just the Biden thing.

That's because Burisma did involve Biden.

Boom. Thank you for admitting this was about personal political gain for Trump.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

The US provides foreign aid to 92 countries. Many, if not most, suffer from rampant corruption.

And yet the only thing Trump has ever asked to be investigated was Burisma, where Joe Biden's son worked. Not all the other corruption in Ukraine, just the Biden thing.

That's because Burisma did involve Biden.

Boom. Thank you for admitting this was about personal political gain for Trump.

No, personal gain is when you get something out of it for yourself. What did Trump get???

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I just want to ask all you anti-Trump people a question here. I'm really not expecting an honest answer, just curious as to what they will be:

At your job, the son of your supervisor gets a promotion everybody wanted. It's the highest paid position in that part of the company. He has no experience at it, he's never been part of that operation at the plant, and he has been known to have a lot of personal challenges in his life.

Would you conclude that it was dumb luck, or that the supervisor--being close to the management, got him that job?

Do you mean like Jarod and Ivanka, being put in to govt positions with zero gvt experience? Well conveted by hard working gov't employees that have worked a lifetime to get the positions in the whit house that Jarod and Ivanka were handed on a silver platter?

Or like Ambassador position for the EU, being handed to a man with ZERO EXPERIENCE as a diplomat, who simply 've a million dollars to the Trump inaugural , like Ambassador mainland, while dedicated diplomats have worked a near quarter century to earn the covetted ambassadorship?

View attachment 294490

Trump would never deny putting those people in those positions. If Biden put his son in charge of managing his campaign for two million dollars a year, it's his money and there are no potential kickbacks. Nobody would care on either side.

And it's not only that Joe got Hunter that job, and that Burisma (a corrupt company) used Hunter's name to try and get a meeting with the state department, but they also got their government to keep their nose out of their dirty business thanks to Joe; if what Shokin says is valid.

Shokin has no credibility. You apparently think you know more than Ukrainians who wanted him out because of his corruption.

Or the Ukrainians wanted him out to get the money via quid pro quo by Joe Biden.

So let's see, we have a corrupt Prosecutor General, and the Democrats. Which is more trusting? I'm going with Shokin.

Seriously, Ray? You have lost your mind!!!!

Oh, and so much for due process, probable cause, and all that jazz.... You take a foreign, Russian mob associated crook' s word over VP Biden? Shame on you!!!

Yes I do, because a foreign mob associated crook is way more honest than Democrats.