Waffle House shooting, at least 4 killed

[JimH52]

Another day and another mass shooting. What happens regularly here is very rare where there is strong gun control.

Just like any other bed wetter's thread, this is bullshit.

Mass shootings happen daily in Mexico, with some of the world's strictest gun control you stupid, servile, ignorant piece of shit.

Mexico murder rate soars with 7,667 killed in 3 months

From your link:

The bloodshed follows a proliferation of gangs involved in drug trafficking, as well as stealing fuel, kidnappings, extortion and other criminal activities.
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The shooting in Mexico are drug or gang related. The mass shooting in the US are random....for no reason.

No one is downplaying the crime is Mexico....but the easy access of guns in the US makes random shooting almost uneventful....unless the shooter is a Muslim or immigrant. Then it is terrorism and becomes a critical event.

The mass shootings in the U.S......kill less than 75 people each year.....except for 2017.......that is less people than are killed by lawn mowers....

Criminals, engaged in criminal activity in the U.S.....? Murdered 11,004 people in 2016....

Easy access to guns isn't stopping criminals in Britain, where their gun crime rate is going up, while our gun crime rate is going down...
Here is the truth about banning and confiscating guns...on an island nation...

Britain...banned guns....

Yorkshire sees highest number of crimes for any county in Britain according to figures

“In particular we’re shocked to see an increase of nearly 30 per cent in weapon possession offences between 2016 and 2017.”

Crimes covered violent and sexual offences, vehicle theft, public order offences, possession of weapons, shoplifting, personal theft, drug crimes, robbery, criminal damage, bicycle thefts and anti-social behaviour.


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Culture of violence: Gun crime goes up by 89% in a decade | Daily Mail Online

The latest Government figures show that the total number of firearm offences in England and Wales has increased from 5,209 in 1998/99 to 9,865 last year - a rise of 89 per cent.

The number of people injured or killed by guns, excluding air weapons, has increased from 864 in 1998/99 to a provisional figure of 1,760 in 2008/09, an increase of 104 per cent .


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Crime rise is biggest in a decade, ONS figures show

Ministers will also be concerned that the country is becoming increasingly violent in nature, with gun crime rising 23% to 6,375 offences, largely driven by an increase in the use of handguns.

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Gun crime in London increases by 42% - BBC News

Gun crime offences in London surged by 42% in the last year, according to official statistics.

Top trauma surgeon reveals shocking extent of London’s gun crime

A leading trauma surgeon has told how the number of patients treated for gunshot injuries at a major London hospital has doubled in the last five years.

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He said the hospital’s major trauma centre had seen a bigger rise in gunshot injuries compared to knife wounds and that the average age of victims was getting younger.

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Last year, gun crime offences in London increased for a third year running and by 42 per cent, from 1,793 offences in 2015/16 to 2,544 offences in 2016/17. Police have seized 635 guns off the streets so far this year.

Dr Griffiths, who also teaches medical students, said: “Our numbers of victims of gun injury have doubled [since 2012]. Gunshot injuries represent about 2.5 per cent of our penetrating trauma.

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Dr Griffiths said the average age of gun crime victims needing treatment at the hospital had decreased from 25 to the mid to late teens since 2012.

He added that medics at the Barts Health hospital’s major trauma centre in Whitechapel had seen a bigger rise in patients with gun injuries rather than knife wounds and that most were caused by pistols or shotguns.

Met Police commander Jim Stokley, who was also invited to speak at the meeting, said that handguns and shotguns were the weapons of choice and that 46 per cent of London’s gun crime discharges were gang-related.

He said: “We believe that a lot of it is associated with the drugs trade, and by that I mean people dealing drugs at street level and disagreements between different gangs.”

Violent crime on the rise in every corner of the country, figures suggest

But analysis of the figures force by force, showed the full extent of the problem, with only one constabulary, Nottinghamshire, recording a reduction in violent offences.

The vast majority of police forces actually witnessed double digit rises in violent crime, with Northumbria posting a 95 per cent increase year on year.

Of the other forces, Durham Police recorded a 73 per cent rise; West Yorkshire was up 48 per cent; Avon and Somerset 45 per cent; Dorset 39 per cent and Warwickshire 37 per cent.

Elsewhere Humberside, South Yorkshire, Staffordshire, Essex, Hertfordshire, Kent, Wiltshire and Dyfed Powys all saw violence rise by more than a quarter year on year.


The U.S., 600 million guns in private hands and over 17 million people carrying guns for self defense.......

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

A 29-year-old guy, naked, starts shooting through the windows from the parking lot at 3:30 in the morning and the discussion is about his GUN?

The guy had been arrested by the Secret Service for having four guns in a restricted area near the White House in July 2017 and the discussion is about his GUN?

The guns confiscated at his arrest were returned to his father, who returned the guns to the shooter and the discussion is about his GUN?

He had complained previously to police that voices were screaming at him and that he was being stalked by singer Tailor Swift and the discussion is about his GUN?

Come on anti-gun nuts, at least make some effort to at least appear sincere!

Like I said...another angry white guy with a gun. Sorry Donnie....no Darkie to condemn this time. No raging Tweets about nasty immigrants....or rampant terrorism. He s white....

 

[2aguy]

Another day and another mass shooting. What happens regularly here is very rare where there is strong gun control.

Just like any other bed wetter's thread, this is bullshit.

Mass shootings happen daily in Mexico, with some of the world's strictest gun control you stupid, servile, ignorant piece of shit.

Mexico murder rate soars with 7,667 killed in 3 months

From your link:

The bloodshed follows a proliferation of gangs involved in drug trafficking, as well as stealing fuel, kidnappings, extortion and other criminal activities.
_____________________________

The shooting in Mexico are drug or gang related. The mass shooting in the US are random....for no reason.

No one is downplaying the crime is Mexico....but the easy access of guns in the US makes random shooting almost uneventful....unless the shooter is a Muslim or immigrant. Then it is terrorism and becomes a critical event.

The mass shootings in the U.S......kill less than 75 people each year.....except for 2017.......that is less people than are killed by lawn mowers....

Criminals, engaged in criminal activity in the U.S.....? Murdered 11,004 people in 2016....

Easy access to guns isn't stopping criminals in Britain, where their gun crime rate is going up, while our gun crime rate is going down...
Here is the truth about banning and confiscating guns...on an island nation...

Britain...banned guns....

Yorkshire sees highest number of crimes for any county in Britain according to figures

“In particular we’re shocked to see an increase of nearly 30 per cent in weapon possession offences between 2016 and 2017.”

Crimes covered violent and sexual offences, vehicle theft, public order offences, possession of weapons, shoplifting, personal theft, drug crimes, robbery, criminal damage, bicycle thefts and anti-social behaviour.


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Culture of violence: Gun crime goes up by 89% in a decade | Daily Mail Online

The latest Government figures show that the total number of firearm offences in England and Wales has increased from 5,209 in 1998/99 to 9,865 last year - a rise of 89 per cent.

The number of people injured or killed by guns, excluding air weapons, has increased from 864 in 1998/99 to a provisional figure of 1,760 in 2008/09, an increase of 104 per cent .


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Crime rise is biggest in a decade, ONS figures show

Ministers will also be concerned that the country is becoming increasingly violent in nature, with gun crime rising 23% to 6,375 offences, largely driven by an increase in the use of handguns.

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Gun crime in London increases by 42% - BBC News

Gun crime offences in London surged by 42% in the last year, according to official statistics.

Top trauma surgeon reveals shocking extent of London’s gun crime

A leading trauma surgeon has told how the number of patients treated for gunshot injuries at a major London hospital has doubled in the last five years.

----

He said the hospital’s major trauma centre had seen a bigger rise in gunshot injuries compared to knife wounds and that the average age of victims was getting younger.

-----

Last year, gun crime offences in London increased for a third year running and by 42 per cent, from 1,793 offences in 2015/16 to 2,544 offences in 2016/17. Police have seized 635 guns off the streets so far this year.

Dr Griffiths, who also teaches medical students, said: “Our numbers of victims of gun injury have doubled [since 2012]. Gunshot injuries represent about 2.5 per cent of our penetrating trauma.

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Dr Griffiths said the average age of gun crime victims needing treatment at the hospital had decreased from 25 to the mid to late teens since 2012.

He added that medics at the Barts Health hospital’s major trauma centre in Whitechapel had seen a bigger rise in patients with gun injuries rather than knife wounds and that most were caused by pistols or shotguns.

Met Police commander Jim Stokley, who was also invited to speak at the meeting, said that handguns and shotguns were the weapons of choice and that 46 per cent of London’s gun crime discharges were gang-related.

He said: “We believe that a lot of it is associated with the drugs trade, and by that I mean people dealing drugs at street level and disagreements between different gangs.”

Violent crime on the rise in every corner of the country, figures suggest

But analysis of the figures force by force, showed the full extent of the problem, with only one constabulary, Nottinghamshire, recording a reduction in violent offences.

The vast majority of police forces actually witnessed double digit rises in violent crime, with Northumbria posting a 95 per cent increase year on year.

Of the other forces, Durham Police recorded a 73 per cent rise; West Yorkshire was up 48 per cent; Avon and Somerset 45 per cent; Dorset 39 per cent and Warwickshire 37 per cent.

Elsewhere Humberside, South Yorkshire, Staffordshire, Essex, Hertfordshire, Kent, Wiltshire and Dyfed Powys all saw violence rise by more than a quarter year on year.


The U.S., 600 million guns in private hands and over 17 million people carrying guns for self defense.......

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

A 29-year-old guy, naked, starts shooting through the windows from the parking lot at 3:30 in the morning and the discussion is about his GUN?

The guy had been arrested by the Secret Service for having four guns in a restricted area near the White House in July 2017 and the discussion is about his GUN?

The guns confiscated at his arrest were returned to his father, who returned the guns to the shooter and the discussion is about his GUN?

He had complained previously to police that voices were screaming at him and that he was being stalked by singer Tailor Swift and the discussion is about his GUN?

Come on anti-gun nuts, at least make some effort to at least appear sincere!

Like I said...another angry white guy with a gun. Sorry Donnie....no Darkie to condemn this time. No raging Tweets about nasty immigrants....or rampant terrorism. He s white....

And yet, all mass shootings each year have only cleared 71 dead in 2017....the other 34 years 71 or less.....and the other 11,004 gun murders are done mostly by minorities killing other minorities...

so....71 v. 11,004


Do you see how stupid your post is?

 

[miketx]

WHY was my thread merged And then moved from poltics ?

Cause the gun nuts can’t handle bad press ?

Because you are an homunculus.

 

[jon_berzerk]

WHY was my thread merged And then moved from poltics ?

Cause the gun nuts can’t handle bad press ?

Because you are an homunculus.

you may be too generous

 

[miketx]

 

[2aguy]

Jump in your car and follow him with 911 on your cell phone.

Sure. But what if that isn't a possibility?

What you liberals are saying is that it is NEVER acceptable to shoot an escaping MASS MURDERER. You're wrong...and entirely unreasonable.

I don't recall being backed into that corner and making that statement. But my earlier comment, that some of you keyboard warriors seem to dream of being the hero in a terrible situation, is certainly being borne out. You said I was being dishonest. I don't think so. You want to shoot bad guys, become a cop. Simple shrimple. Otherwise, stop stylin yourself as the armed Batman at the local Waffle House.

You try to remember your words the next time you only have seconds between your life and your death at the hands of a killer, and then a patron takes the killer out before the cops arrive in the next 10 mins or more. The same for a person weilding a knife, a club or is just strong enough to choke you out without you being able to yell for the law much less hope that they can be there in a split second. Quit living in your fantasy liberal leftist world, and start living in the real world.

or...remember it next time some person see’s a black teen with a cell phone and thinks he has a gun.

You mean the black teen with the long criminal history who was breaking into cars when the police told him to stop, who then ran through back yards and then, when confronted by police, is shocked when he is shot and killed?

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Waffle House shooter declared himself part of rightwing extremist movement: report

The alleged Waffle House shooter had declared himself to be part of the rightwing extremist “sovereign citizen” movement. Travis Reinking, 29, is believed to have been the shooter who killed four at a 24-hour diner outside Nashville.

 

[miketx]

Waffle House shooter declared himself part of rightwing extremist movement: report

The alleged Waffle House shooter had declared himself to be part of the rightwing extremist “sovereign citizen” movement. Travis Reinking, 29, is believed to have been the shooter who killed four at a 24-hour diner outside Nashville.

Unless I were to hear this killer admit that with his own mouth there is not way I would believe you liars. And then if it's true, so what?

 

[2aguy]

Waffle House shooter declared himself part of rightwing extremist movement: report

The alleged Waffle House shooter had declared himself to be part of the rightwing extremist “sovereign citizen” movement. Travis Reinking, 29, is believed to have been the shooter who killed four at a 24-hour diner outside Nashville.

Unless I were to hear this killer admit that with his own mouth there is not way I would believe you liars. And then if it's true, so what?

Yep.....catch him, and execute him for his crimes..... not a hard concept...

 

[Old Rocks]

Damn Mexicans, Muslims & Blacks MUST BE STOPPED!

Yes, a crazy white guy that would have killed far more people except a young black man wrested the gun away from him.

 

[2aguy]

Damn Mexicans, Muslims & Blacks MUST BE STOPPED!

Yes, a crazy white guy that would have killed far more people except a young black man wrested the gun away from him.

The gun jammed.....

What about all the crazy minorities in democrat controlled voting districts who have murdered the majority of 11,004 people...usually other minorities?

You don't care about those victims...right?

 

[Old Rocks]

Again, an assault weapon used in mass murder.

 

[miketx]

Damn Mexicans, Muslims & Blacks MUST BE STOPPED!

Yes, a crazy white guy that would have killed far more people except a young black man wrested the gun away from him.

That's a good thing race baiter. I only wish the black guy would have killed him.

 

[Old Rocks]

Damn Mexicans, Muslims & Blacks MUST BE STOPPED!

Yes, a crazy white guy that would have killed far more people except a young black man wrested the gun away from him.

The gun jammed.....

What about all the crazy minorities in democrat controlled voting districts who have murdered the majority of 11,004 people...usually other minorities?

You don't care about those victims...right?

I care that liars with no sanity or conscience like you are, at present, preventing the control of the weapons that are used in most mass shootings.

 

[miketx]

Damn Mexicans, Muslims & Blacks MUST BE STOPPED!

Yes, a crazy white guy that would have killed far more people except a young black man wrested the gun away from him.

The gun jammed.....

What about all the crazy minorities in democrat controlled voting districts who have murdered the majority of 11,004 people...usually other minorities?

You don't care about those victims...right?

I care that liars with no sanity or conscience like you are, at present, preventing the control of the weapons that are used in most mass shootings.

Right liar, when they ban the AR, they'll just use a different kind. I pray you scum get the war you are begging for!

 

[2aguy]

Again, an assault weapon used in mass murder.

No...it wasn't an Assault Rifle, whatever that is......you must mean a military weapon, which the killer did not use.....a military weapon is a select fire weapon...

The AR-15 rifle this guy used has never been a military weapon, has never been used by the military.....


And 8,000,000 AR-15 civilian rifles were not used today..... versus the one that was...can you tell which number is bigger?

 

[2aguy]

Damn Mexicans, Muslims & Blacks MUST BE STOPPED!

Yes, a crazy white guy that would have killed far more people except a young black man wrested the gun away from him.

The gun jammed.....

What about all the crazy minorities in democrat controlled voting districts who have murdered the majority of 11,004 people...usually other minorities?

You don't care about those victims...right?

I care that liars with no sanity or conscience like you are, at present, preventing the control of the weapons that are used in most mass shootings.

And you are a doofus...the weapon used in most mass shootings is the pistol....not the AR-15 civilian rifle...

in fact, lawn mowers kill more people than all mass shootings each year for 34 years......

Rental trucks are deadlier than these rifles...

 

[miketx]

Lol! These worthless traitors trot out the same regurgitated bullshit everytime! Bring it scum bag!

 

[IsaacNewton]

An unarmed black man rushes and disarms a white man in a Waffle House that has already killed a number of people.

Conservative's brains across the land...

 

[2aguy]

An unarmed black man rushes and disarms a white man in a Waffle House that has already killed a number of people.

Conservative's brains across the land...

No....the democrats like you are the ones who obsess about race first, and the actual situation second.....