What Democrats are trying to do

[Harry Dresden]

I thought you'd realize I was kidding Harry. Does it matter that I'm not 100% green?

How Green do I have to get before you say okay you'll do it too? You won't? Okay, so like Gore said, it has to be mandated.

Trust me, you'll love your solar panels.

so you dont walk the walk when its not convenient to do so?....at least you are honest....just stop talking the talk,you are turning people against going green....

 

[Crick]

so you dont walk the walk when its not convenient to do so?....at least you are honest....just stop talking the talk,you are turning people against going green....

And you aren't?

 

[Harry Dresden]

And you aren't?

i never said i was....and i wasnt preaching to everyone else about it like he was...what are you bobos defender?....

 

[Maxdeath]

1. So what?
2. So what? Keep trying. Keep going greener. Every new home with solar panels on the roof is good right?
3. So what? We are new to this EV/Hybrid thing. We need to get there.
4. So what? So what China and India now pollute just as much as we used to? When we solve this, they'll buy our green technology. Or steal it.

You seem to not understand. So let me put it in more simple terms.
We are unable to create enough power through so called green technology to cover more then 20%of our needed energy. And that energy need is going to go up. So what is your plan here? To just do away with all but 20% of everyone’s energy?
Do you have any idea what solar panels cost? You do know you need to replace them every so often right? So do you plan to replace them before you sell a house or let the buyer drop the price of the house to cover the replacement cost? I am not even going to go into the rest of the setup.
So what? How do you plan for people to get from point A to point B? Right now I can go from one point to another in driving time and maybe 20 minutes to refuel. We are talking hours to refuel and having to plan the trip so that you can refuel. Will not even go into the extra it costs for tires, the problems of dealing with battery fires or the non green part of mining and disposal.
Do you have any idea how much non green 40 coal fired power plants will produce?
I get it you want to chase the shiny penny all while tripping over millions.

 

[Maxdeath]

China's and India's per capita emissions are well below US per capita emissions. And China is spending significantly more on renewable energy than we are.

The reason theirs is below in per capita is that not too far out of the large cities you step back in time to what amounts to the Wild West in America. Large portions of the country have no power no good roads.
It is easy to say you are making an investment in renewable energy if you are powering only a few items for as long as the wind is blowing or the sun is shining. If you have no reliable electricity source and are not use to it.
It is a totally different story here where we are used to electricity even in out of the way locations.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

is get the environment to it's best place. It's a difficult thing to do and we're not there yet. If we could have 100% solar and wind we would but we can't. Germany tried. They got rid of all the coal plants and had to re open them. BUT, they are back up to over 50%.

Democrats aren't anti fracking. We're just trying to get the environment to it's best place.

Democrats aren't anti fracking. We're just trying to get the environment to it's best place.

Every illegal alien Democrats let in releases much more CO2 here than they did back home.

Boot 20 million illegal aliens, for the better environment.

 

[Godboy]

What massive increase in gas prices?

 

[Crick]

Are you perhaps talking about the surge in February of 2022 due to Russia's invasion of Ukraine? As you can see, that is long gone. Here is what gasoline prices have done lately.

EIA: US gasoline prices ahead of Memorial Day weekend 1% higher than last year

The average retail price of regular gasoline in the US was $3.58/gal on May 20, 2024—the Monday before Memorial Day—a 1% increase from the same time last year.

www.ogj.com

Here in Wisconsin, gasoline has been about $2.95/gal for the last week. That is to say, cheaper than almost any point during the Trump administration up till the pandemic.

 

[Jarlaxle]

so you are saying that bobo doesnt walk the walk, he just likes talking the talk?....

Of course-like most greenies, who preach at people to reduce fossil fuel use from their private jets and 10,000 square foot mansions.

 

[Crick]

Of course-like most greenies, who preach at people to reduce fossil fuel use from their private jets and 10,000 square foot mansions.

I encourage people to reduce their fossil fuel use and have neither a private jet nor a 10,000 square foot mansion.

 

[martybegan]

is get the environment to it's best place. It's a difficult thing to do and we're not there yet. If we could have 100% solar and wind we would but we can't. Germany tried. They got rid of all the coal plants and had to re open them. BUT, they are back up to over 50%.

Democrats aren't anti fracking. We're just trying to get the environment to it's best place.

And to hell with anyone below the upper classes standard of living to do it!

 

[Jarlaxle]

I encourage people to reduce their fossil fuel use and have neither a private jet nor a 10,000 square foot mansion.

Move to a 100 square foot apartment in a city tenement. Walk everywhere. Limit heat to 60 degrees, showers to 90 seconds of hot water, and use no air conditioning. Be the change you want to see.

 

[Crick]

Move to a 100 square foot apartment in a city tenement. Walk everywhere. Limit heat to 60 degrees, showers to 90 seconds of hot water, and use no air conditioning. Be the change you want to see.

We can't afford to keep living high on the hog like that. We need to cut back on our luxurious western lifestyle.

 

[Jarlaxle]

We can't afford to keep living high on the hog like that. We need to cut back on our luxurious western lifestyle.

You first.

 

[sealybobo]

We can't afford to keep living high on the hog like that. We need to cut back on our luxurious western lifestyle.

I understand new toilets and shower heads suck but they can make them better. Trump crying about having to flush 10 times or not having a powerful water shower head is anti environment.

It's like Covid. He is against masks and social distancing but wants to give himself credit for all the people the vaccine saved.

Trump says he wants clean air and clean water. But denies man made climate change. That's wrong but a safe thing to say.

Maybe you need to stop cutting your grass and watering your lawn. Water and gas are too valuable for that shit. If you are so rich, maybe we need to tax water and gas more to force you to stop using it the way you do.

 

[sealybobo]

You first.

If you can afford to buy gas to put into a lawn mower just to cut your grass, then you can afford $5 a gallon gas. Clearly you're rich enough to be throwing money away.

It's like a smoker who complains he doesn't make enough. $10 a day habit. That's $300 a month.

Americans spend nearly $30 billion annually on lawn care, which includes fertilizing, watering, and mowing. The average cost to maintain an average-sized yard is more than $3,000 per year.

 

[Jarlaxle]

If you can afford to buy gas to put into a lawn mower just to cut your grass, then you can afford $5 a gallon gas. Clearly you're rich enough to be throwing money away.

It's like a smoker who complains he doesn't make enough. $10 a day habit. That's $300 a month.

Americans spend nearly $30 billion annually on lawn care, which includes fertilizing, watering, and mowing. The average cost to maintain an average-sized yard is more than $3,000 per year.

OK...I have no idea what, if anything, you are attempting to babble here. Do you?

When I had my own lawn, I burned (maybe) 2 gallons of gas a week cutting it. No other costs beyond a re-seeding (I needed SOMETHING in that spot to minimize erosion) a few months after buying the house. The mower cost me nothing (previous owner left it), getting it running cost me an air filter, carb gasket, and a foot of fuel line. (Even the old battery held a charge after I desulfated it.)

 

[EMH]

is get the environment to it's best place. It's a difficult thing to do and we're not there yet. If we could have 100% solar and wind we would but we can't. Germany tried. They got rid of all the coal plants and had to re open them. BUT, they are back up to over 50%.

Democrats aren't anti fracking. We're just trying to get the environment to it's best place.

What crap.

You are a complete illiterate who cannot answer basic climate questions...

1. Why does one Earth polar circle have 9+ times the ice of the other?
2. Why is there ice age glacier south of Arctic Circle on Greenland but no such ice age glacier north of Arctic Circle on Alaska?
3. If the oceans are "warming" why is the record decade for canes still the 1940s?
4. If the oceans are "rising" why can't we see one single photo of land sinking?
5. How did Co2 thaw North America and freeze Greenland at the same time?



Indeed, by deliberately misdiagnosing the fires and leaving the border open, the Democrat Party is making the fires worse, knows that, doesn't care, because the media spins the fires as "evidence of warming" which is actually not what happens...

During the Jurassic Period, the Earth's climate was much warmer and wetter than it is today.

A warmer Earth is a wetter Earth, and that would result in LESS FIRES NOT MORE, YOU MORON!!!

 

[sealybobo]

OK...I have no idea what, if anything, you are attempting to babble here. Do you?

When I had my own lawn, I burned (maybe) 2 gallons of gas a week cutting it. No other costs beyond a re-seeding (I needed SOMETHING in that spot to minimize erosion) a few months after buying the house. The mower cost me nothing (previous owner left it), getting it running cost me an air filter, carb gasket, and a foot of fuel line. (Even the old battery held a charge after I desulfated it.)

This is a great example of why it's not right to expect one rich liberal to fix the environment. You can't call them a hypocrite if they are still cutting their lawns, flying in private jets or own 5 homes. You just proved it. With your stupid comment.

It doesn't matter how little gas you use or that you were given a free lawn mower. Irrelevant. Add us all us, INCLUDING YOU, and Americans spend too much money on cutting and watering our lawns.

On average we spend $3000 a year. Imagine if those idiots saved that money instead. 30 years, compounding interest, Did I do the math right? In 30 years $3000 a year will be $300,000?

 

[Jarlaxle]

This is a great example of why it's not right to expect one rich liberal to fix the environment. You can't call them a hypocrite if they are still cutting their lawns, flying in private jets or own 5 homes. You just proved it. With your stupid comment.

It doesn't matter how little gas you use or that you were given a free lawn mower. Irrelevant. Add us all us, INCLUDING YOU, and Americans spend too much money on cutting and watering our lawns.

On average we spend $3000 a year. Imagine if those idiots saved that money instead. 30 years, compounding interest, Did I do the math right? In 30 years $3000 a year will be $300,000?

Work on reading comprehension.