What did our founders really mean when they said “general welfare”?

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Cut to the chase beggars….
Do you believe “promote the general welfare” means….
”Pay ShaQuita and Guadalupe to make liabilities / babies”?
Does it mean “pay for DaShawn’s weekly sack of chronic”?
Does it mean “provide Humberto with his case of Modelo”?
OR
Does it mean….
Pay for public education, for public safety, for emergency services, for infrastructure, for public transportation, for clean air and water…OR even….for public parks and rec…etc etc

Your lament has no meaning. Contact your House rep.

 

[lafayette]

John, these 'constitutional' want to be scholars don't get that their opinions are only that, and that the only real player in 'what' the document means is SCOTUS. Change SCOTUS if one wants the Constitution 'followed' in the way one wants.

 

[GMCGeneral]

John, these 'constitutional' want to be scholars don't get that their opinions are only that, and that the only real player in 'what' the document means is SCOTUS. Change SCOTUS if one wants the Constitution 'followed' in the way one wants.

We have the 6-3 Majority now for that. It's the same old "living document" trope that caused the misinterpretation of the Constitution which should be followed "TO THE LETTER" and abuse by the government.

 

[lafayette]

Nah, it is a living document, and the majority of the Court determines the decision.

I am sure that the Democrats of Jackson and Van Buren would be horrified on the Court's decision this week to support the EPA's authority in certain areas.

 

[rightwinger]

Actually it kinda is about the definition of the word GENERAL. There’s really nothing trivial about said definition.
The definition of “WELFARE” is quite clear as well.

Welfare means the well being of We the People

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Welfare means the well being of We the People

No it doesnt

 

[rightwinger]

No it doesnt

Actually, it does

 

[RetiredGySgt]

abd yet not one program existed until socialist FDR made them, go figure

 

[GMCGeneral]

Welfare means the well being of We the People

It still doesn't mean government gets to be yo daddy. It doesn't mean Shakira gets free money, housing, and other goodies at MY expense all because she has four critters with different baby daddies. Got it now moron?

 

[JohnDB]

John, these 'constitutional' want to be scholars don't get that their opinions are only that, and that the only real player in 'what' the document means is SCOTUS. Change SCOTUS if one wants the Constitution 'followed' in the way one wants.

I find absolutely nothing wrong with an originalist point of view when determining what the Constitution means.

The drafters used language at their time in history to address their audience and their understanding. Not a post modern world view.

Changing the Constitution is possible and there is a process for that. Bypassing that process is not allowed.

Just like we are not a true democracy. We are a republic because Mob Rule is a horrible thing and unstable.

 

[rightwinger]

It still doesn't mean government gets to be yo daddy. It doesn't mean Shakira gets free money, housing, and other goodies at MY expense all because she has four critters with different baby daddies. Got it now moron?

A Government of the People, by the People and FOR the People

 

[GMCGeneral]

A Government of the People, by the People and FOR the People

Nope. State's needs come before ghetto trash that refuse to take care of themselves

 

[rightwinger]

Nope. State's needs come before ghetto trash that refuse to take care of themselves

You put the state above the people?

 

[GMCGeneral]

You put the state above the people?

As it should be and how the Constitution is framed. Let the states handle their own social welfare issues.

 

[rightwinger]

As it should be and how the Constitution is framed. Let the states handle their own social welfare issues.

It starts…… We the People of the United States

 

[GMCGeneral]

It starts…… We the People of the United States

Doesn't matter. State's needs take priority.

 

[rightwinger]

Doesn't matter. State's needs take priority.

 

[GMCGeneral]

So you advocate permanent far Left one party rule with an all encompassing central government just like your heroin the former USSR. People like you need to be sent away to await sentencing and summary execution for treason

 

[lafayette]

I find absolutely nothing wrong with an originalist point of view when determining what the Constitution means.

The drafters used language at their time in history to address their audience and their understanding. Not a post modern world view.

Changing the Constitution is possible and there is a process for that. Bypassing that process is not allowed.

Just like we are not a true democracy. We are a republic because Mob Rule is a horrible thing and unstable.

We are a Republic where the representatives are elected democratically, a democratic Republic

 

[lafayette]

So GMC General does advocate permanent far Right one party rule with an all-encompassing central government (Project 2025) just like your hero in Russia today.