Zone1 What Do Gods Really Want and Why?

[schmidlap]

have you tried the irregular heart beat "flip switch" technique ... they stop the heart and restart w/ an elect volt stimulator.

well, everything worked fine except heart did not reboot any differently - will give it another try 1st october. can hardly wait.

Is that the same as cardioversion?

Good luck!

and to think sour sue, the desert dwellers only have to ask the heavens for the remedy almost might give one another thought to reading their bibles of deceptions if in itself that would not cause their spirits to shrivel and die over time as proven throughout history and their posts in this thread.

I'm still trying to fathom why anyone would call Louie Gohmert to fix her toilet.

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[SweetSue92]

I am inclined to accept the consensus of qualified plumbers regarding a plumbing problem, electricians regarding an electrical problem, or cardiologists regarding a heart problem.

That respect for expertise extends to virologists, and epidemiologists. While I am aware that none is infallible, I am disinclined to substitute the opinion of an ideologue, whether a politician or media entertainer, regarding plumbing, electrical, cardiological, virological or epidemiological problems.

Render unto Caesar, Mark 12:17:

COVID-19 vaccines saved 20 million lives in 1 year​

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Few religions ban vaccination... ​

There are hundreds of religions, but in one summary tally, about five religions ban vaccinations, compared with at least 24 that don’t.​

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Vanderbilt University Medical Center’s review of immunization and religions identified a small subset of Christian faiths that oppose vaccination on theological grounds. There are five, a group that includes the Dutch Reformed Church, Church of the First Born, Faith Assembly and Endtime Ministries. The Vanderbilt list is largely a topline overview, not a comprehensive study of all religions worldwide.​

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Many people might instantly think of Christian Scientists. While many Christian Scientists rely on prayer for healing, the Christian Science Church offered guidance to its members on vaccines in early 2019. It said that "for more than a century, our denomination has counseled respect for public health authorities and conscientious obedience to the laws of the land, including those requiring vaccination." ​

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Church leaders impose no decision on church members, but they encourage them to recognize the seriousness of public health concerns.​

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"Church members are free to make their own choices on all life-decisions, in obedience to the law, including whether or not to vaccinate," the statement said.​

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Protestant faiths, Islam, Roman and Orthodox Catholicism, Judaism, Hinduism, Jainism, Buddhism, Jehovah’s Witnesses, and more have no prohibition against vaccination. ​

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Sorting out vaccine mandates, religion and the law

Coronavirus vaccine mandates are spreading, and with them, pushback based on religion. In Washington, D.C., about 1,500

www.politifact.com

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And how did that work out for you, all those boosters and etc?

You might not know now, but will later. At any rate, you of all people should be last in line for questioning anyone's faith. My faith leads me to pray, read the Bible and go to church. Yours meant you had yourself INJECTED with God only knows what

 

[schmidlap]

And how did that work out for you, all those boosters and etc?

It is now generally accepted that the Covid vaccination saved millions of lives. As noted, I respect apolitical medical expertise, and ignore ideologically-driven politicians and media entertainers with no medical expertise.

Covid-19 vaccines have saved 3 million lives in US​

As with anthropogenic climate change, it is difficult to cling to the steaming bs in the face of irrefutable empirical data:

Trump Encourages His Supporters To Get COVID-19 Vaccine​

There is a price to pay for ignorance:

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Excess mortality was significantly higher for Republican voters than Democratic voters​

after COVID-19 vaccines were available to all adults, but not before.​

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More specifically, the researchers say, their adjusted analysis found that "the excess death rate among Republican voters was 43% higher than the excess death rate among Democratic voters" after vaccine eligibility was opened.​

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The different rates "were concentrated in counties with lower vaccination rates..."​

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You might not know now, but will later. At any rate, you of all people should be last in line for questioning anyone's faith. My faith leads me to pray, read the Bible and go to church. Yours meant you had yourself INJECTED with God only knows what

You seem confused. I have not questioned anyone's faith - except for the belief of those who fantasize that ideologues with crackpot notions concerning deadly viral infections know more about medicine that the consensus of qualified medical professionals - real virologists, immunologists, and epidemiologists - supported by the empirical data.

As noted, my acceptance of reality comports with that of most religions, rather than being antagonistic to those institutions:

Protestant faiths, Islam, Roman and Orthodox Catholicism, Judaism, Hinduism, Jainism,
Buddhism, Jehovah’s Witnesses, and more have no prohibition against vaccination. ​

 

[BreezeWood]

You might not know now, but will later.

no, they would rather not -

Polio is a life-threatening disease caused by a virus that affects the nervous system and is usually spread from one person to another when stool (poop) or, less commonly, droplets from a sneeze or cough of an infected person gets into the mouth of another person.

CAIRO/GAZA, Sept 1 (Reuters) - The United Nations, in collaboration with Palestinian health authorities, began to vaccinate 640,000 children in the Gaza Strip on Sunday,

symptomatic of the desert religions, sue is right at home their bible of forgeries and fallacies so dear to their own wellbeing must be made obligatory for everyone - or ...

 

[ding]

As with anthropogenic climate change, it is difficult to cling to the steaming bs in the face of irrefutable empirical data:

You mean like the ocean controls the climate of the planet? Empirical evidence like that?

 

[BreezeWood]

You mean like the ocean controls the climate of the planet? Empirical evidence like that?

There is a price to pay for ignorance:

no, the climate on planet earth ...

is altered by humanity and the concrete jungle.

- and the false desert religions, altering heavens sabbath, their creation to be kept holy - for their makebelieve day off and destroying it.

 

[ding]

no, the climate on planet earth ...

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is altered by humanity and the concrete jungle.

- and the false desert religions, altering heavens sabbath, their creation to be kept holy - for their makebelieve day off and destroying it.

Dummy, the ocean is the planet's largest feature. The ocean is the largest solar energy collector. The ocean stores the majority of the planet's heat. Thermohaline circulation distributes heat.

 

[BreezeWood]

Dummy, the ocean is the planet's largest feature. The ocean is the largest solar energy collector. The ocean stores the majority of the planet's heat. Thermohaline circulation distributes heat.

- and the false desert religions, altering heavens sabbath, their creation to be kept holy - for their makebelieve day off and destroying it.

distributes heat, brainchild - is the problem.

funny how its necessary to repeat to you, you are in the wrong forum ...

the concrete jungles and motor carriage are the primary reason for the altered global warming, climate change on planet earth ... or is it the desert dwellers deliberately practice their persecution and victimization on earth as well as the innocent without recourse for their crimes as usual. - bing.

 

[ding]

distributes heat, brainchild - is the problem.

funny how its necessary to repeat to you, you are in the wrong forum ...

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the concrete jungles and motor carriage are the primary reason for the altered global warming, climate change on planet earth ... or is it the desert dwellers deliberately practice their persecution and victimization on earth as well as the innocent without recourse for their crimes as usual. - bing.

When the northern hemisphere deglaciates the oceans and the atmosphere warm. Stop shitting your pants over weather.

 

[Mashmont]

Self-appointed spokespeople for the notoriously aloof various divinities all seem to indicate they crave human validation.

Why such coy seekers of adulation in the form of relentless rituals, songs, fancy garb, processions, edifices, shindigs, assorted gestures, etc., etc., etc.?

Why would any self-respecting deity (omnipotent, omniscient, and eternal) care?

God does need to be worshipped. WE need it. It's what it does to us. Makes us better, more introspective, more loving. The way we were meant to be.

 

[Mashmont]

DeGrasse Tyson answers: He brings terrible suffering, Tornadoes, Hurricanes, Pestilence, etc. to humans.

But he loves you!

Druggie/Drunk Carlin said the same thing. My question is: WHY do atheists think life should have no apparent hardship? Which makes for better people? Easy lives or hard lives? The 1950s is considered among the greatest decades ever in America. Most prosperous. Most families. Most marriages. Highest church attendance. Greatest number of priests and nuns. Greatest number of Catholic schools. Societal norms against sex outside marriage. But the adults of the 1950s were forged by hard times; the Great Depression and then WW2.

 

[Donald H]

Druggie/Drunk Carlin said the same thing. My question is: WHY do atheists think life should have no apparent hardship? Which makes for better people? Easy lives or hard lives? The 1950s is considered among the greatest decades ever in America. Most prosperous. Most families. Most marriages. Highest church attendance. Greatest number of priests and nuns. Greatest number of Catholic schools. Societal norms against sex outside marriage. But the adults of the 1950s were forged by hard times; the Great Depression and then WW2.

I think that in the 1950's the recovery from literally accepting the Christian bibles had just begun. Most Christians still believed in the 'big fish and jonah stories' then because they saw a possibility that they could make it work in their minds and so it was true. Some on this forum still do! I admire their strength and commitment!

Now we are faced with the question on whether or not a majority of Christians can still literally believe in the tale and others of the same others that are questionable.

Do they? Can we bring back the 50's in any way, shape, or form, knowing what we know now since Darwin's enlightenment?

To your question on atheists rejecting hardships: We don't believe it's realistic to expect there will be no hardships. But we don't purposely go out looking for hardships to impose on ourselves.

I'm suggesting with that, hardships and a belief system that I would suggest that Christians 'do' impose on themselves. Even as much as going to church on Sunday and paying the church for it's services. And other hardships that I won't mention for now.

 

[Mashmont]

I think that in the 1950's the recovery from literally accepting the Christian bibles had just begun. Most Christians still believed in the 'big fish and jonah stories' then because they saw a possibility that they could make it work in their minds and so it was true. Some on this forum still do! I admire their strength and commitment!

Now we are faced with the question on whether or not a majority of Christians can still literally believe in the tale and others of the same others that are questionable.

Do they? Can we bring back the 50's in any way, shape, or form, knowing what we know now since Darwin's enlightenment?

To your question on atheists rejecting hardships: We don't believe it's realistic to expect there will be no hardships. But we don't purposely go out looking for hardships to impose on ourselves.

I'm suggesting with that, hardships and a belief system that I would suggest that Christians 'do' impose on themselves. Even as much as going to church on Sunday and paying the church for it's services. And other hardships that I won't mention for now.

1. Nonsense. Everybody understood parables even then. At least Catholics did.
2. Self-denial is not in the atheist lexicon. I realize that. But there is a lot of character to be gained from it.

 

[marvin martian]

Self-appointed spokespeople for the notoriously aloof various divinities all seem to indicate they crave human validation.

Why such coy seekers of adulation in the form of relentless rituals, songs, fancy garb, processions, edifices, shindigs, assorted gestures, etc., etc., etc.?

Why would any self-respecting deity (omnipotent, omniscient, and eternal) care?

^^^It's always funny to see alleged "atheists" desperately asking important theological questions.

As if your life depended on it...

 

[Donald H]

1. Nonsense. Everybody understood parables even then. At least Catholics did.
2. Self-denial is not in the atheist lexicon. I realize that. But there is a lot of character to be gained from it.

Catholics can be credited with backsliding on their bibles and it being the word of the god, earlier than, let's say the suthurn baptisers!

Which church has held up the best against Satan's idea that the bibles are bullsh-t stories?

If they're not true stories or bullsh-t stories, what are they?

That's all the time I've got for you godly spooks today.

 

[Mashmont]

Catholics can be credited with backsliding on their bibles and it being the word of the god, earlier than, let's say the suthurn baptisers!

Which church has held up the best against Satan's idea that the bibles are bullsh-t stories?

If they're not true stories or bullsh-t stories, what are they?

That's all the time I've got for you godly spooks today.

You've never heard of parables?

 

[ding]

Most Christians still believed in the 'big fish and jonah stories' then because they saw a possibility that they could make it work in their minds and so it was true.

Fake news. Lies a communist subversive would spread to undermine Christianity which they see as a threat to communism.

 

[ding]

Catholics can be credited with backsliding on their bibles and it being the word of the god, earlier than, let's say the suthurn baptisers!

Which church has held up the best against Satan's idea that the bibles are bullsh-t stories?

If they're not true stories or bullsh-t stories, what are they?

That's all the time I've got for you godly spooks today.

It's called using common sense.

 

[BreezeWood]

The 1950s is considered among the greatest decades ever in America. Most prosperous. Most families. Most marriages. Highest church attendance.

the hayday -

for american christianity ...

 

[Mashmont]

the hayday -

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for american christianity ...

That was the 1920s, and the KKK was against Christians, particularly Catholics which is one of the "K"s.