What is a Real American

"Good gawd, what a thread."
Indeed!
And it is threads like this one that keep me coming back.
I'm ashamed to say it's sort of a version of......well, 'slumming'.
Or voyeurism?

Anyway, let ogle some of the wares that have been posted, and maybe offer a neutral unbiased observation. OK?


"Do you know who wrote most of the New Testament? A man who literally killed thousands of Christians Paul, who was Saul."
Actually, Saul/Paul was originally believed to have written just 14 of the 27 books; however, recent scholarship puts credible doubt on that. Only 7 are now viewed as undisputedly Saul/Paul's by today's Bible scholars.

And then this: "literally killed thousands of Christians".... ?????
Where did that little factoid come from?

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So g5000 is going to make a big deal about Trump being a ladies man. That's what all men want to be. Ain't nothing wrong with that.
(ps.....this was my fav from the whole thread)

"what all men want to be"!!
Ummmm, gee!
I didn't know that.

Multiple adulteries against 3 wives.
No public acknowledgement and expression of remorse and promise to do better (which often is required in the 'redemption' tales, I've been told).
At least 26 women accused Trump of sexual misconduct.
And good poster Lenny
(he of the Cyber Ninja/Stolen Election notoriety) assert "nothing-wrong-with-that" (which, confidentially, could lead one to think poor Lenny ain't married, ain't in a committed relationship, doesn't have daughters, or is a sad incel. I dunno for sure, but could see an argument towards that. ...????)
Mexicans are by the way "real Americans". And much more others too.
Yupper, like Hondurans, Costa Ricans, Nicaraguans. And I guess Argentinians, Brazilians.

And, I suppose, if one defined Navaho, Anishinaabe, and Haudenosaunee as 'true Americans'......well, that would throw some shade on a bunch of us late-arrival European, Chinese, Korean, Polynesians, etc.

No?

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"Trump represents us well."
See observation above about serial adultery against three wives; at least 26 women charging him with sexual misconduct; 6 bankruptcies; Trump University; Trump Airlines; Trump Steaks; Trump Mortgages; Trump charity (nee private piggybank).

Yupper, you picked a winner there good poster Lenny.

(btw, I wanted to include how Rex Tillerson, retired Chairman and CEO of Exxon/Mobil, described him but the language is a tad salty).
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What is a Real American

And I don’t mean what is a “Legal” American, I mean what is a Real American? What is it in the heart of a person that makes them a Real American, a Patriot?

Well, a real American IS a patriot. He would gladly serve his country in time of war. He would come to the aid of a neighbor. He knows America is an exceptional nation. In his heart he loves Liberty, Freedom; he appreciates entrepreneurship, he has the drive to make his way in life without a net and rise or fall on your own efforts like the pioneers did, and he knows that God endowed him with the right to Life, Liberty, and to pursue happiness

That is a real American.

Would you call some America-hating socialist or Leftist a real American? . . someone who mocks trucks and guns? . . someone who does not want to work and wants to live off of welfare? . . someone who despises America and hates our history and our traditions and our values and embraces evil ideologies? Is that a “Real American” just because they were born here?

Some people might say they are real Americans too because they were born here. I say those people are wrong. Such sick anti-American haters may be legally American if they were born here but they are not REAL Americans in their hearts. They are not Patriots.

Is this all too hard for a person to understand? If it is them maybe that person not a real American.

Have you heard people talk about fake Christians? Sadly there are people who call themselves Christians, and maybe they even go to church once in a while, but they do not have Christ in their heart. The lie and hate and do bad things. We all know they are out there. We see them all the time. Simply calling yourself a Christian and going to church every Easter does not make you one. Most people understand that, right?

Why should it be any different for being an American? . . a Patriot? Any fool can be born here. But when you are an adult, do you realize what a wonderful exceptional country American is and are you a patriot? Or are you a blood-sucking socialist democrat who enjoys the fruits of the land but hates the nation? If you are the latter then you are no American, born here or not.

Some people cannot grasp these concepts. That is too bad for them,

“I never use the words Democrats and Republicans. It's liberals and Americans.” — James G. Watt, 1981​
 
Yupper, like Hondurans, Costa Ricans, Nicaraguans. And I guess Argentinians, Brazilians.

And, I suppose, if one defined Navaho, Anishinaabe, and Haudenosaunee as 'true Americans'......well, that would throw some shade on a bunch of us late-arrival European, Chinese, Korean, Polynesians, etc.

No?

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Not really, because no one is responsible for the deeds of others. But bad deeds from the own ancestors are often also like chains which have to be broken. The big difference is it that South America is a real "melting pot" - a mix from people of all continents - while North America separates somehow all not existing "races". And the Red Indians in the North - very strange by the way that you never found a "good" collective term for the American "Indians" who are no Indians - whatever. The Red Indians in the North were a long time able to defend themselve - also against sicknesses and alcohol. The most were mass-murdered when [semi-]automatic rifles were invented - what explains perhaps partially the extreme unreal weapon fetishism of the people of the USA.

I remember in this context by the way a German in the 195x years. When he had been a little boy he dreamt to become a Red Indian - and in the 1950ies he migrated to the USA. He found some old men - a council of elders of the Lakota. They agreed to teach him to become a Lakota. The same time the young men of this tribe had been in the cities of the USA and made money. When in the 1960ies a "back to the roots" movement had happened many of them came back and found in the middle of their council of elders a new medicine man. From the race they tried to flee. A man who never had been a "native American". Some of them - let me call them "racists" - tried to force the council of elders to exclude him from the tribe but they said to them he had been a better (or more true) Lakota than many others.


 
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When you're right, you don't need to repent.
Grabbing pussies, committing adultery, pathologically lying, stealing from the elderly, bearing false witness against others.

Exactly what are you smoking?
 
Grabbing pussies, committing adultery, pathologically lying, stealing from the elderly, bearing false witness against others.
Exactly what are you smoking?
If you want me to smoke that wacky tobacky, you need to legalize it in my state.
 
Thanksgiving Proclamation of 1789

By the President of the United States of America, a Proclamation.

Whereas it is the duty of all Nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God, to obey his will, to be grateful for his benefits, and humbly to implore his protection and favor-- and whereas both Houses of Congress have by their joint Committee requested me to recommend to the People of the United States a day of public thanksgiving and prayer to be observed by acknowledging with grateful hearts the many signal favors of Almighty God especially by affording them an opportunity peaceably to establish a form of government for their safety and happiness.

Now therefore I do recommend and assign Thursday the 26th day of November next to be devoted by the People of these States to the service of that great and glorious Being, who is the beneficent Author of all the good that was, that is, or that will be-- That we may then all unite in rendering unto him our sincere and humble thanks--for his kind care and protection of the People of this Country previous to their becoming a Nation--for the signal and manifold mercies, and the favorable interpositions of his Providence which we experienced in the course and conclusion of the late war--for the great degree of tranquility, union, and plenty, which we have since enjoyed--for the peaceable and rational manner, in which we have been enabled to establish constitutions of government for our safety and happiness, and particularly the national One now lately instituted--for the civil and religious liberty with which we are blessed; and the means we have of acquiring and diffusing useful knowledge; and in general for all the great and various favors which he hath been pleased to confer upon us.

and also that we may then unite in most humbly offering our prayers and supplications to the great Lord and Ruler of Nations and beseech him to pardon our national and other transgressions-- to enable us all, whether in public or private stations, to perform our several and relative duties properly and punctually--to render our national government a blessing to all the people, by constantly being a Government of wise, just, and constitutional laws, discreetly and faithfully executed and obeyed--to protect and guide all Sovereigns and Nations (especially such as have shewn kindness unto us) and to bless them with good government, peace, and concord--To promote the knowledge and practice of true religion and virtue, and the encrease of science among them and us--and generally to grant unto all Mankind such a degree of temporal prosperity as he alone knows to be best.

Given under my hand at the City of New York the third day of October in the year of our Lord 1789.

Go: Washington

Washington issued a proclamation on October 3, 1789, designating Thursday, November 26 as a national day of thanks. In his proclamation, Washington declared that the necessity for such a day sprung from the Almighty’s care of Americans prior to the Revolution, assistance to them in achieving independence, and help in establishing the constitutional government.
 
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What is a Real American

And I don’t mean what is a “Legal” American, I mean what is a Real American? What is it in the heart of a person that makes them a Real American, a Patriot?

Well, a real American IS a patriot. He would gladly serve his country in time of war. He would come to the aid of a neighbor. He knows America is an exceptional nation. In his heart he loves Liberty, Freedom; he appreciates entrepreneurship, he has the drive to make his way in life without a net and rise or fall on your own efforts like the pioneers did, and he knows that God endowed him with the right to Life, Liberty, and to pursue happiness

That is a real American.

Would you call some America-hating socialist or Leftist a real American? . . someone who mocks trucks and guns? . . someone who does not want to work and wants to live off of welfare? . . someone who despises America and hates our history and our traditions and our values and embraces evil ideologies? Is that a “Real American” just because they were born here?

Some people might say they are real Americans too because they were born here. I say those people are wrong. Such sick anti-American haters may be legally American if they were born here but they are not REAL Americans in their hearts. They are not Patriots.

Is this all too hard for a person to understand? If it is them maybe that person not a real American.

Have you heard people talk about fake Christians? Sadly there are people who call themselves Christians, and maybe they even go to church once in a while, but they do not have Christ in their heart. The lie and hate and do bad things. We all know they are out there. We see them all the time. Simply calling yourself a Christian and going to church every Easter does not make you one. Most people understand that, right?

Why should it be any different for being an American? . . a Patriot? Any fool can be born here. But when you are an adult, do you realize what a wonderful exceptional country American is and are you a patriot? Or are you a blood-sucking socialist democrat who enjoys the fruits of the land but hates the nation? If you are the latter then you are no American, born here or not.

Some people cannot grasp these concepts. That is too bad for them,
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Apparently I hit the nail on the head because all I got was maniacal hate from the left, plus one fake Christian rant
 
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I've often said that there is no one more dangerous than a maniac who believes he is doing God's will.
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."
C. S. Lewis
 
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."
C. S. Lewis

What the fuck are you saying. Do you agree with this or not:

What is a Real American

And I don’t mean what is a “Legal” American, I mean what is a Real American? What is it in the heart of a person that makes them a Real American, a Patriot?

Well, a real American IS a patriot. He would gladly serve his country in time of war. He would come to the aid of a neighbor. He knows America is an exceptional nation. In his heart he loves Liberty, Freedom; he appreciates entrepreneurship, he has the drive to make his way in life without a net and rise or fall on your own efforts like the pioneers did, and he knows that God endowed him with the right to Life, Liberty, and to pursue happiness

That is a real American.

Would you call some America-hating socialist or Leftist a real American? . . someone who mocks trucks and guns? . . someone who does not want to work and wants to live off of welfare? . . someone who despises America and hates our history and our traditions and our values and embraces evil ideologies? Is that a “Real American” just because they were born here?

Some people might say they are real Americans too because they were born here. I say those people are wrong. Such sick anti-American haters may be legally American if they were born here but they are not REAL Americans in their hearts. They are not Patriots.

Is this all too hard for a person to understand? If it is them maybe that person not a real American.

Have you heard people talk about fake Christians? Sadly there are people who call themselves Christians, and maybe they even go to church once in a while, but they do not have Christ in their heart. The lie and hate and do bad things. We all know they are out there. We see them all the time. Simply calling yourself a Christian and going to church every Easter does not make you one. Most people understand that, right?

Why should it be any different for being an American? . . a Patriot? Any fool can be born here. But when you are an adult, do you realize what a wonderful exceptional country American is and are you a patriot? Or are you a blood-sucking socialist democrat who enjoys the fruits of the land but hates the nation? If you are the latter then you are no American, born here or not.

Some people cannot grasp these concepts. That is too bad for them,
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