logical4u
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- Aug 19, 2009
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Do not "murder". That is the whole thing about abortion. The rest, maybe you are not seeing enough into it.appreciate
Abortion is not murder, it is the termination of a pregnancy. There is no prohibition against abortion in the Bible, and if you believe God created woman, He created women who miscarry. If God is so opposed to abortion, why do 1/3 of all pregnancies end in a sponteneous miscarriage?
A woman is either "with child" or "not with child". There is no in between. A miscarriage is not usually a willful termination of a pregnancy. An abortion is the deliberate "termination" (murder) of a pregnancy.
Active homosexuals do bear false witness (according to convenience). Any time they want to walk among straight people, they "pretend" to be straight, for employment, to get things, etc. If they are trying to "seduce" a future partner or want to swing a person to their way of thinking, they use deception (false witness).
Bearing false witness is lying about others. Lying about yourself is simply lying. There are no jobs applications I know of which ask whether you are gay or straight. Pretending to be straight isn't bearing false witness. Telling someone that your friend is straight when he's gay, is bearing false witness. If being gay could get me killed, I'd say I'm straight too. Until stupid people stop attacking and sometimes killing those who are gay just because they're gay, I'll give gay people a pass on saying they're straight.
Bearing witness that you are one way, when you are really another way is "false witness". So yes, "pretending" to be straight is false witness. Being gay will not get you killed in the USA. Acting on homosexual tendencies with someone that is not homosexual, might get you killed, anywhere. If someone is murdered because "they are gay", it is murder and a punishable offense. It IS against the law (human and the LORD's)
God makes gay people and straight people. They have been gay people in every society since the dawn of time. Some societies honour their gays and treat them well. There are differences in the brains of gays and straights, and there is some indication that being gay is genetic. And yet God doesn't make mistakes. So one has to conclude that God makes people gay on purpose. Who am I to question or reject a person whom God has made?
The LORD makes people prone to SIN (all people). Each person has their own temptations. Homosexuals are tempted by sexual perversion. Addicts, are tempted by drugs or alcohol (and we encourage them to resist those sinful ways). Kleptomaniacs are tempted to "covet" (and we encourage them to resist that sinful behavior). There are people that are tempted to do violence, even murder (we teach them that they can control those urges, and overcome them). I do not have to "question or reject a person" to know their "actions" are sinful. I am called to point that sin out to them (if I don't, I am held accountable for their sins, as well as mine on judgment day).
Jesus said nothing about sex. He was absolutely silent on the subject. You'd think if sexual behaviour was all that important in the eyes of God, Jesus would have had SOMETHING to say about it. Instead, Jesus talked about loving one another as I have loved you. Doing unto others as we would have them do unto us. If we treat one another with love and respect, the rest falls into line.
What did the Savior say to the adulterous woman? Was HE "absolutely silent on the subject"? HE did say something about it. And yes HE did say that promiscuous, lewd, and perverse behavior was right up there with the other sins. How is encouraging sinful behavior treating another with "love"? You are setting them up to be punished by the LORD for that same sinful behavior. Where is the "love" in that?
Adultery is prohibited in the 10 Commandments. Adultery is defined as voluntary sexual relations where one or more of the partners is married but not to the other partner. The act of adultery is the ONLY sex act which is prohibited in the Bible.
Apparently, you didn't read the Bible for content. Bestiality is a no no, along with promiscuous, lewd and perverse (this would be "homosexual) sex.
The male dominated Catholic Church has been using the Bible to control and repress human sexuality, especially FEMALE human sexuality, since the earliest days of the Church, but the bald fact is that the Bible doesn't ban or bar most acts of human sexuality except adultery. And while society likes to blame the single "other woman" for seducing the innocent husband, it is the man who has committed the sin, not the woman.
If a single woman is "seducing", she is "coveting" (against one of the Commandments). She is sinning. The man, if he lusts after her in his heart or in actions, is also sinning. Personally, I think the "Catholic Church" is one of the few places (there are some other Christian Churches also) that demonstrate how special sex is for a married couple, and how if you are not married, sex is not about "love" but personal gratification and exploitation of others (blunt truth). These churches teach to watch your married partner to please them, and to be patient (natural birth control requires personal discipline). Sex is to be approached as very loving. Children are the "result" of that "love". How is that "controlling and repressing female human sexuality"? It raises sexuality above the animal level where it is blessed by the LORD.
The Bible contains some sex stories that the Fundamentalists ignore utterly, like Lot and his Daughters, or the story of Onan. And when they do use a story, they get the wrong message, as in the story of Onan. His sin wasn't that he masturbated, it was that he disobeyed God. God told him to have sex with his brother's wife and Onan spilled his seed on the ground instead. Even as a kid in Sunday School, before I even knew what sex was, I knew that God killed Onan because he didn't do what he was told.
Lot and his daughters? Was that promoted as "good"? Was that a result of raising daughters in a sinful city?
Onan did disobey the LORD. If you are sinning, aren't "you" disobeying the LORD?
What I would really appreciate is if all you half-assed religious zealots would read the Bible and start living by it's principles instead of telling ME how I should live my life. I read the Bible. I read it from cover to cover, and I am a strong Christian woman.
Where did I tell you how to live your life? How do you know that I do not live by the Bible's "principles", even though liberals tend to mock and ridicule "Biblical principals". For a "strong Christian woman", you seem to pick and choose what parts of the Bible you want to follow. Do you have the authority to tell others that what the LORD declared sinful, is NOT (sinful)?
I read the Bible when I was a teenager, because I wanted to make good and sure, that I didn't cross too many lines that would keep me out of heaven. So don't try to tell me that having premarital sex is wrong or that having an abortion is going against God, or any other shit that isn't in the Bible because I ain't buying it.
"Premarital sex" is sinful behavior. You are breaking the same Commandments homosexual acts do.
Abortion: read about Mollech, and then get back to me. The LORD told the freed Hebrew slaves to kill all the people in the region of the "promised land" that followed this god. Today, his name is "abortion". And yes, the LORD was very much against this practice.
You cannot corrupt God's word and use it to control and represss women because it's doesn't. God would not have issued the equipment if he didn't intend for us to use it.
Egads, are you suggesting men should rape every person and everything because "God would not have issued the equipment if he didn't intend for" men to use it? Talk about a ridiculous statement.....
How am I trying to "control and repress women"? Do you think telling them that they have more worth than being a penis receptacle is controlling them? Do you think that telling them they should have responsible sex is "repressing" them? I am a voice in the wilderness. I have no "authority" over what people do. I can call it like I see it, but that does not give me one ounce of control over anyone. Nor do I want to be responsible for other people's lives, I want them to be responsible for their own lives. As a taxpayer, I am getting really, really tired of trying to live my life, according to what I know is "right", and having those that ignore, mock and ridicule my beliefs, holding their hand out so that I (the taxpayer) will be responsible (pay for) their mistakes and poor choices, including the poor choice of abortion.