Where are the 'critical thinkers'?

[Woodznutz]

In regard to the gun violence problem. Guns have always been around in America. Every kid I knew growing up had a BB gun and/or a .22 in his bedroom closest. No one shot anyone, even though there were fights. What has changed?

 

[1srelluc]

Because if you fucked around you found out.

When I was a teen a fight broke out at a pick-up football game, one guy handed the loser of the fight a shotgun and the loser killed the winner with a blast to the chest.

The shooter got 65 years and the other guy 45 years for handing him the shotgun. That's how things should work.

 

[Samofvt]

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: there has been a steady pressure from the liberal public education system to stifle religion. Without the teachings about how to live a better life that were handed down for thousands of years, many people lack the tools necessary to cope with the challenges of life. They are replacing worship of a higher power and self-improvement with worship of the socialist government system. I don't think any particular religion should be forced on our kids, but they should be taught that religions do exist, and that mankind has benefited from the teachings for thousands of years. The secular/government systems are clearly failing and letting too many people fall through the cracks and into mental and moral decay.

 

[lg325]

Because if you fucked around you found out.

When I was a teen a fight broke out at a pick-up football game, one guy handed the loser of the fight a shotgun and the loser killed the winner with a blast to the chest.

The shooter got 65 years and the other guy 45 years for handing him the shotgun. That's how things should work.

Thats why when I had fights afterward I always brought the guy a cold soda and sat next to him to talk it out.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

In regard to the gun violence problem. Guns have always been around in America. Every kid I knew growing up had a BB gun and/or a .22 in his bedroom closest. No one shot anyone, even though there were fights. What has changed?

When I was a kid, a lot of the hunters brought their rifles and shotguns with them to school. Nobody thought twice about it.

Also, when I was a kid, the media was the American media instead of being the instrument of global interests trying to stir up discord, ramp up the tension, magnify the hate and sow the seeds of violence. The crazies were locked up as well, and so we didn't have a situation where they got all amped up by the media.

 

[johngaltshrugged]

They blame tools for what are clearly mental health &/or criminal behavioral problems.
Getting rid of guns won't eliminate the psychos & they will just adapt tactics if they don't just use an illegal gun anyway since there is zero possibility they could ever get them all.
The proposals they make will have no effect on the root of the problems & I will not be going along with their counter-productive BS

 

[Dogmaphobe]

They blame tools for what are clearly mental health &/or criminal behavioral problems.
Getting rid of guns won't eliminate the psychos & they will just adapt tactics if they don't just use an illegal gun anyway since there is zero possibility they could ever get them all.
The proposals they make will have no effect on the root of the problems & I will not be going along with their counter-productive BS

Yep.

After the black democrat racist mowed down those people in Wisconsin, were the Stalinists calling for car control? Of course not.

They were too busy trying to deny the nature of the crime and bury the story because it didn't play into their agenda.

 

[Votto]

Moral decline due to absence of school prayer - PantherNOW

rayer in schools has not always been such a controversial topic. In fact, public schools had prayer for nearly 200 years before the Supreme Court ruled that state mandated class prayers were unconstitutional in the landmark case of Engle vs. Vital in June 1962. Religion aside, prayer should be...

panthernow.com

Prayer in schools has not always been such a controversial topic. In fact, public schools had prayer for nearly 200 years before the Supreme Court ruled that state mandated class prayers were unconstitutional in the landmark case of Engle vs. Vital in June 1962. Religion aside, prayer should be implemented in schools simply because it has useful benefits on its own.

Our school systems aren’t doing any better since the removal of prayer in schools. In fact, some may say that the situation has gotten much worse, especially in terms of school violence. In 2007, the Center for Disease Control and Prevention found that 5.9 percent of students carry weapons to school with them, 7.8 percent have been threatened or injured on campuses nationwide and 12.4 percent of students have been in a physical fight on school grounds at least once. The most recent studies have found that 5.3 percent of students do not go to school because they do not feel safe.

Since the court outlawed prayer, the nation has been in steady moral decline. Former Secretary of Education, William Bennet, revealed in his cultural indexes that between 1960 and 1990 divorce doubled, teenage pregnancy went up 200 percent, teen suicide increased 300 percent, violent crime went up 500 percent and he maintains that there is a strong correlation between the expulsion of prayer from our schools and decline in morality.

 

[Woodznutz]

As long as there are final exams there will be prayer in schools.

 

[lg325]

I went to public schools teachers and staff were Muslim,Catholic, Jews and Mormon plus other different Christian denominations as a child I liked most of them but I would have been uncomfortable having them saying a prayer that I was mandated to listen to.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

As long as there are final exams

In the Mind, Cram Turns Into Jam

Those should be eliminated in favor of frequent quizzes. A typical example was an honors class that averaged 92 on their final in June. They were given the same exam after summer vacation and averaged only 65.

 

[Samofvt]

Moral decline due to absence of school prayer - PantherNOW

rayer in schools has not always been such a controversial topic. In fact, public schools had prayer for nearly 200 years before the Supreme Court ruled that state mandated class prayers were unconstitutional in the landmark case of Engle vs. Vital in June 1962. Religion aside, prayer should be...

panthernow.com

Prayer in schools has not always been such a controversial topic. In fact, public schools had prayer for nearly 200 years before the Supreme Court ruled that state mandated class prayers were unconstitutional in the landmark case of Engle vs. Vital in June 1962. Religion aside, prayer should be implemented in schools simply because it has useful benefits on its own.

Our school systems aren’t doing any better since the removal of prayer in schools. In fact, some may say that the situation has gotten much worse, especially in terms of school violence. In 2007, the Center for Disease Control and Prevention found that 5.9 percent of students carry weapons to school with them, 7.8 percent have been threatened or injured on campuses nationwide and 12.4 percent of students have been in a physical fight on school grounds at least once. The most recent studies have found that 5.3 percent of students do not go to school because they do not feel safe.

Since the court outlawed prayer, the nation has been in steady moral decline. Former Secretary of Education, William Bennet, revealed in his cultural indexes that between 1960 and 1990 divorce doubled, teenage pregnancy went up 200 percent, teen suicide increased 300 percent, violent crime went up 500 percent and he maintains that there is a strong correlation between the expulsion of prayer from our schools and decline in morality.

A good first step would be to re-instate the Pledge of Allegiance:

I Pledge Allegiance to the flag
of the United States of America,
and to the republic for which it stands.
One Nation, Under God,
Indivisible, with liberty
and justice for all.

I'm saddened and terrified my own daughter does not know those words. Our kids should know that maybe, just maybe, there is something greater than what we can see with our eyes and prove with science. Just the possibility might be enough to keep some people out of trouble. I respect anyone's right to deny a higher power, I've questioned it myself plenty. But the teachings alone are priceless.

 

[Woodznutz]

In the Mind, Cram Turns Into Jam

Those should be eliminated in favor of frequent quizzes. A typical example was an honors class that averaged 92 on their final in June. They were given the same exam after summer vacation and averaged only 65.

Actually that's pretty good retention.