Where are the WMDs?

[The2ndAmendment]

Our country is still greatly in debt and suffering from this unjust and fraudulent war, where are the WMDs?

Why hasn't Obama found them since he took office in 2009? Or why hasn't Obama tried the entire Bush Administration for High Treason and sent them to the gallows?

 

[bodecea]

Apparently in women's vaginas since the conservatives are very very interested in checking them out.

 

[Rct_Tsoul]

Everyone knows the war was not about WMD's or oil, as it is cheaper to buy than to steal it.
The war was all about proving to all towel heads and the world ........... who has the biggest dick ........... and that is the United States of America.
Before Dubya screwed me in the housing market crash, all Americans felt warm & cossy on the inside when they were paying their taxes including myself .............. and most Americans still feel that way except for the wealthy & banking industry.
Dubya crushed the world power grab that was 400 years in the making and transferred this power to the tyrannical armed registered voting sheeple of America ............. it doesn't make any sense ............ it's like GIVING your employees a bonus and/or sharing the profits with them ........P:........... it's like NOT wanting to be in control ....... makes no sense.

 

[The2ndAmendment]

Notice that the partisans can't post in this thread, because regardless of which side they choose, they must accept that there was wrong-doing by both parties.

 

[Godboy]

Why do people still ask this question now that we know Saddam destroyed them in secret so that Iran would think they still had them? He admitted it while he was in prison. Was Clinton lying when he declared them to be the worlds enemy for mass producing WMDs? There was no government on earth that didn't think he had them. Why is this simple concept so hard to understand?

 

[The2ndAmendment]

Why do people still ask this question now that we know Saddam destroyed them in secret so that Iran would think they still had them? He admitted it while he was in prison. Was Clinton lying when he declared them to be the worlds enemy for mass producing WMDs? There was no government on earth that didn't think he had them. Why is this simple concept so hard to understand?

Link.

 

[Godboy]

Why do people still ask this question now that we know Saddam destroyed them in secret so that Iran would think they still had them? He admitted it while he was in prison. Was Clinton lying when he declared them to be the worlds enemy for mass producing WMDs? There was no government on earth that didn't think he had them. Why is this simple concept so hard to understand?

Link.

REALLY?!!! You didn't know this common knowledge already? For fuck sake... Former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein bluffed about WMDs fearing Iranian arsenal, secret FBI files show - NY Daily News

 

[The2ndAmendment]

Why do people still ask this question now that we know Saddam destroyed them in secret so that Iran would think they still had them? He admitted it while he was in prison. Was Clinton lying when he declared them to be the worlds enemy for mass producing WMDs? There was no government on earth that didn't think he had them. Why is this simple concept so hard to understand?

Link.

REALLY?!!! You didn't know this common knowledge already? For fuck sake... Former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein bluffed about WMDs fearing Iranian arsenal, secret FBI files show - NY Daily News

We were told they had certain and conclusive proof that Iraq possessed WMD's, not just hearsay evidence of some tyrant bluffing and boasting.

 

[Godboy]

Link.

REALLY?!!! You didn't know this common knowledge already? For fuck sake... Former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein bluffed about WMDs fearing Iranian arsenal, secret FBI files show - NY Daily News

We were told they had certain and conclusive proof that Iraq possessed WMD's, not just hearsay evidence of some tyrant bluffing and boasting.

Now you're just desperately reaching. The US assumed, like everyone else, that he had WMDs. That's why they were seeing them in places they didn't exist. Bush was CERTAIN they would find them, and he assumed his actions would be justified once they were found. The US government spent an enormous amount of time and money scouting Iraq for these WMDs. They wouldn't have bothered if they knew they weren't there. Furthermore, if Bush was the shady guy that people make him out to be, why wouldn't he have just planted the evidence? One barrel of anthrax would have totally let him off the hook, but he's not the evil mastermind he was made out to be, so he took his lumps like a man.

Hate Bush all you want, but you should hate him for REAL reasons at least.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Do the bean burritos I had for dinner count as WMD? Man they pack quite a wallop.

 

[The2ndAmendment]

REALLY?!!! You didn't know this common knowledge already? For fuck sake... Former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein bluffed about WMDs fearing Iranian arsenal, secret FBI files show - NY Daily News

We were told they had certain and conclusive proof that Iraq possessed WMD's, not just hearsay evidence of some tyrant bluffing and boasting.

Now you're just desperately reaching. The US assumed, like everyone else, that he had WMDs. That's why they were seeing them in places they didn't exist. Bush was CERTAIN they would find them, and he assumed his actions would be justified once they were found. The US government spent an enormous amount of time and money scouting Iraq for these WMDs. They wouldn't have bothered if they knew they weren't there. Furthermore, if Bush was the shady guy that people make him out to be, why wouldn't he have just planted the evidence? One barrel of anthrax would have totally let him off the hook, but he's not the evil mastermind he was made out to be, so he took his lumps like a man.

Hate Bush all you want, but you should hate him for REAL reasons at least.

On that note, the Obama Administration is using the CIA to plant chemical evidence in Syria.

However, I find it distressing that the Bush Administration woudl claim to be absolutely certain on such weak evidence --- and invading before the people had time to research and seriously ponder the claims brought before them --- and that's saying it as nicely as possible.

 

[healthmyths]

Notice that the partisans can't post in this thread, because regardless of which side they choose, they must accept that there was wrong-doing by both parties.

WHAT F...k wrong??? ARE f...king CRAZY???

HEY you f...king idiot... I WANT YOUR F...k Car, house and I'm coming to take it by FORCE you dumb shi...!!!
WHAT would you say if you were a Kuwaiti civilian seeing Iraqi soldiers streaming across your town?
Setting fire to buildings... YOUR f...king HOME! Dumb shit.!

So then the GUY YOU obviously respected and loved Saddam SIGNED the 1991 CEASE FIRE after he got his butt kicked!
SEE THE F..k ing facts below dumb f...K!

On 3 August 1990, the UN Security Council passed Resolution 660 condemning the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait and demanding that Iraq unconditionally withdraw all forces deployed in Kuwait.[39]
After a series of failed negotiations between major world powers and Iraq, the United States-led coalition forces launched a massive military assault on Iraq and Iraqi forces stationed in Kuwait in mid January 1991. By January 16, Allied aircraft were targeting several Iraqi military sites and the Iraqi Air Force was destroyed.[40] Hostilities continued until late February and on February 25, Kuwait was officially liberated from Iraq.[41] On 15 March 1991, the Emir of Kuwait returned to the country after spending more than 8 months in exile.[42] During the Iraqi occupation, about 1,000 Kuwaiti civilians were killed and more than 300,000 residents fled the country.[43]
Invasion of Kuwait - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

1991 CEASE FIRE!!!

Adopted by the Security Council at its 2981st meeting, on 3 April 1991 The Security Council,

Recalling its resolutions 660 (1990) of 2 August 1990, 661 (1990) of 6 August 1990, 662 (1990) of 9 August 1990, 664 (1990) of 18 August 1990, 665 (1990) of 25 August 1990, 666 (1990) of 13 September 1990, 667 (1990) of 16 September 1990, 669 (1990) of 24 September 1990, 670 (1990) of 25 September 1990, 674 (1990) of 29 October 1990, 677 (1990) of 28 November 1990, 678 (1990) of 29 November 1990 and 686 (1991) of 2 March 1991,

Welcoming the restoration to Kuwait of its sovereignty, independence and territorial integrity and the return of its legitimate Government,
7. Invites Iraq to reaffirm unconditionally its obligations under the Geneva Protocol for the Prohibition of the Use in War of Asphyxiating, Poisonous or Other Gases, and of Bacteriological Methods of Warfare, signed at Geneva on 17 June 1925, and to ratify the Convention on the Prohibition of the Development, Production and Stockpiling of Bacteriological (Biological) and Toxin Weapons and on Their Destruction, of 10 April 1972;
8. Decides that Iraq shall unconditionally accept the destruction, removal, or rendering harmless, under international supervision, of:
(a) All chemical and biological weapons and all stocks of agents and all related subsystems and components and all research, development, support and manufacturing facilities;
(b) All ballistic missiles with a range greater than 150 kilometres and related major parts, and repair and production facilities;
9. Decides, for the implementation of paragraph 8 above, the following:
(a) Iraq shall submit to the Secretary-General, within fifteen days of the adoption of the present resolution, a declaration of the locations, amounts and types of all items specified in paragraph 8 and agree to urgent, on-site inspection as specified below;
(b) The Secretary-General, in consultation with the appropriate Governments and, where appropriate, with the Director-General of the World Health Organization, within forty-five days of the passage of the present resolution, shall develop, and submit to the Council for approval, a plan calling for the completion of the following acts within forty-five days of such approval:
(i) The forming of a Special Commission, which shall carry out immediate on-site inspection of Iraq's biological, chemical and missile capabilities, based on Iraq's declarations and the designation of any additional locations by the Special Commission itself;
(ii) The yielding by Iraq of possession to the Special Commission for destruction, removal or rendering harmless, taking into account the requirements of public safety, of all items specified under paragraph 8 (a) above, including items at the additional locations designated by the Special Commission under paragraph 9 (b) (i) above and the destruction by Iraq, under the supervision of the Special Commission, of all its missile capabilities, including launchers, as specified under paragraph 8 (b) above;
(iii) The provision by the Special Commission of the assistance and cooperation to the Director-General of the International Atomic Energy Agency required in paragraphs 12 and 13 below;


BUT THEN IDIOTS like you and other totally irresponsible dumb f..ks... COMPLETELY ignore that Saddam DIDN"T abide by the
CEASE FIRE...
SO>....
Congress passes Resolution of 2002 (Public law 107-243, 116 Stat. 1497-1502) "Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq "
Introduced as H.J.Res. 114, it passed the House on October 10, 2002 by a vote of 296-133, (68.9% of the house)
the Senate on October 11 by a vote of 77-23. (77%) The resolution cited many factors to justify action:

1 * Iraq's noncompliance with the conditions of the 1991 cease fire, including interference with weapons*inspectors
2 * Iraq's alleged weapons of mass destruction, and programs to develop such weapons, posed a "threat
to the national security of the United States and international peace and security in the Persian Gulf region"
3 * Iraq's "brutal repression of its civilian population"
4 * Iraq's "capability and willingness to use weapons of mass destruction against other nations and its own people"
5 * Iraq's hostility towards the United States as demonstrated by the 1993 assassination attempt of
former President George H. W. Bush, and firing on coalition aircraft enforcing the no-fly zones following the 1991 Gulf War
6 * Members of al-Qaida were "known to be in Iraq"
7 * Iraq's "continu[ing] to aid and harbor other international terrorist organizations," including anti-United States terrorist organizations
8 * Fear that Iraq would provide weapons of mass destruction to terrorists for use against the United States
9 * The efforts by the Congress and the President to fight the 9/11 terrorists and those who aided or harbored them
10 * The authorization by the Constitution and the Congress for the President to fight anti-United States terrorism

So once again you Saddam lovers that totally forget history..
THE Dumb fu...k like the rest of you when you sign agreements YOU know you won't keep get repossessed!

Saddam broke the CEASE FIRE and was hung by his own people that were obviously very tired of dumb s...ts like you that
obviously never heard about these actions by Saddam the guy you would LOVE to be a slave to!!

Ahmad was Uday's chief executioner. Last week, as Iraqis celebrated the death of his former boss and his equally savage younger brother Qusay, he nervously revealed a hideous story. His instructions that day in 1999 were to arrest the two 19-year-olds on the campus of Baghdad's Academy of Fine Arts and deliver them at Radwaniyah. On arrival at the sprawling compound, he was directed to a farm where he found a large cage. Inside, two lions waited. They belonged to Uday. Guards took the two young men from the car and opened the cage door. One of the victims collapsed in terror as they were dragged, screaming and shouting, to meet their fate. Ahmad watched as the students frantically looked for a way of escape. There was none. The lions pounced. 'I saw the head of the first student literally come off his body with the first bite and then had to stand and watch the animals devour the two young men. By the time they were finished there was little left but for the bones and bits and pieces of unwanted flesh,' he recalled last week."
-- Sunday Times, London, July 27, 2003


"Ali would then draw out a pair of pliers and a sharp knife. Gripping the tongue with pliers, he would slice it up with the knife, tossing severed pieces into the street. "'Those punished were too terrified to move, even though they knew I was about to chop off their tongue,' said Ali in his matter-of-fact voice. 'They would just stand there, often praying and calling out for Saddam and Allah to spare them. By then it was too late.

"'I would read them out the verdict and cut off their tongue without any form of anaesthetic. There was always a lot of blood. Some offenders passed out. Others screamed in pain. They would then be given basic medical assistance in an ambulance which would always come with us on such punishment runs. Then they would be thrown in jail.'"

-- Fedayeen Saddam member interviewed in The Sunday Times (London), April 20, 2003
Saddam has reduced his people to abject poverty.
He wiped out families, villages, cities and cultures, and drove four million people into exile.
He killed between 100,000 and 200,000 Kurds. He killed as many as 300,000 Shiites in the uprising after the Persian Gulf war.
He killed or displaced 200,000 of the 250,000 marsh Arabs who had created a unique, centuries-old culture in the south. He drained the marshes, an environmental treasure, and turned them into a desert.

In a recent Frontline documentary, a woman who fled Iraq recounted how she and others had been forced
to witness the public beheadings of 15 women who had been rounded up for prostitution and other crimes against the state. One of the women was a doctor who had been misreported as speaking against the regime.
"They put her head in a trash can," she said.

AND YOU dumb f..ks totally FORGET THIS!
1 million kids would have starved to death by now BECAUSE of Saddam AND YOU wouldn't CARE!
28 million people are FREE today... BUT YOU SADDAM butt kissers loved that!
BUTCHERS that you are!!!

 

[Freewill]

Link.

REALLY?!!! You didn't know this common knowledge already? For fuck sake... Former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein bluffed about WMDs fearing Iranian arsenal, secret FBI files show - NY Daily News

We were told they had certain and conclusive proof that Iraq possessed WMD's, not just hearsay evidence of some tyrant bluffing and boasting.

This is what you want to remember, without links to actual words you are just spouting opinion. So I will be happy to provide some quotes for you. Now remember, saying they think that Saddam had WMD and supporting the war are two different things, but most of those on this list DID vote for military action in Iraq.

BTW where were the WMD in Afghanistan, you know Obama's good war?

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line." Ex-President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program." Ex-President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [the USA], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face." Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983." Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs." Letter to President Clinton, signed by Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process." Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies." Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

"There is no doubt that Saddam Hussein has invigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies." Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, December 5, 2001

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandated of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them." Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country." Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction." Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons." Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force if necessary to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security." Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power." Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years. We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction." Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do" Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons." Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"Saddam Hussein's regime represents a grave threat to America and our allies, including our vital ally, Israel. For more than two decades, Saddam Hussein has sought weapons of mass destruction through every available means. We know that he has chemical and biological weapons. He has already used them against his neighbors and his own people, and is trying to build more. We know that he is doing everything he can to build nuclear weapons, and we know that each day he gets closer to achieving that goal." Senator John Edwards (D-NC), October 10, 2002

"While the distance between the United States and Iraq is great, Saddam Hussein's ability to use his chemical and biological weapons against us is not constrained by geography - it can be accomplished in a number of different ways - which is what makes this threat so real and persuasive." Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-CA), October 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction." Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime. He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation. And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction. So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real." Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

"The essential facts are known. We know of the weapons in Saddam's possession: chemical, biological, and nuclear in time. We know of his unequaled willingness to use them. We know his history. His invasions of his neighbors. His dreams of achieving hegemonic control over the Arab world. His record of anti-American rage. His willingness to terrorize, to slaughter, to suppress his own people and others. We need not stretch to imagine nightmare scenarios in which Saddam makes common cause with the terrorists who want to kill us Americans and destroy our way of life." Senator Joseph Lieberman (D-CT), September 13, 2002

"Make no mistake: Saddam Hussein is a ruthless tyrant, and he must give up his weapons of mass destruction. We support the President in the course he has followed so far: working with Congress, working with the United Nations, insisting on strong and unfettered inspections. We must convince the world that Saddam Hussein is not America's problem alone; he is the world's problem. And we urge President Bush to stay this course for we are far stronger when we stand with other nations than when we stand alone." Governor Gary Locke (D-WA), January 28, 2003 Democratic Response to President Bush's "State of the Union" address

BTW the above were verified by Snopes.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Beating this dead topic again? I take it you're having trouble feeling relevant?