Which is better for the economy: Infrastruction or gifts to the wealthy?

[RealDave]

El Cheeto said he wants to spend a trillion dollars on infrastructure.

A proven way to boost the economy by spreading money to factories & Middle Class workers while giving America improved bridges, highways, airports, water & sewer systems, electrical grid, etc. The big question was how to pay for it.

Well The Republicans & Trump just spent a trillion dollars to give money to the wealthy & profitable corporations. A proven piss poor way to boost the economy.

We know exactly what Republicans do - kiss the ass of their donors while fucking over the American people.

Let us not forget that when George W Bush took office we had a balanced budget. The CBO said we are on track to pay down the debt. Then came the series of unfunded tax cuts.

We were on a path of reducing the deficits with steady economic growth & a long string pf positive monthly job gains.

We already saw that string of job gains ended. Now the Republicans , who can't fricken learn, repeat the tax cut approach.

Yep, those Republicans just passed a bill that put us on a path to yet another conomic disaster. Thewreathy will survive just fine like they did with the Bush recession. We wuill ge fucked once again. Jobs lost, homes lost, opportunities gone for our chuldren.

For what? Those that elect Republicas are justy plasin assholes & contributors.

This is easy...letting people who earn the money keep the money......since any infrastructure project is going to be used to line the pockets of corrupt, greedy politicians, and their minions......and they will use the project to steal our money through jacking up the cost of the project......it is better to let Americans keep their money than to send it to Washington.....

So that is the best answer out there...

You voted for a trillion dollar investment by Trump. Whose pockets is he lining? You approved of that.

But heyt, fuck our infrastructure, right. We don't meed no stinkin bridges, etc.

 

[RealDave]

Who knew our infrastructure was in great shape ion 2006.

Obama "fixed" that when he scammed us out of a trillion for "infrastructure." Why have libs forgotten that?

What trillion dollars for infrastructure.

Don't tell me you are so fucking stupid to thing that the stimulus bill spent a trillion dollars on infrastructure.

Stupidity & ignorance like yours is what gave us Captain Bone Spur.

 

[RealDave]

We had a balanced budget. Period. What changed? Tax cut after tax cut at a time of war. All unfunded. You can pull out excuse after excuse but the actions taken by Republicans drove us down the path towards recession.

Everyone who knows anything about economics knows that putting money in the hands of people that will spend it. That is what Obama did with the stimulus bill. A bill that was 38% tax breaks & tax cuts. Directed at working Americans.

What money was given to unprofitable corporations?

But hey, you think we should only give money to corporations that don't need it and pile it on to those thast donlt? Really? And you claim to know economics?

We had a balanced budget. Period. What changed?

The Internet Bubble popped.
It was in all the papers.

You can pull out excuse after excuse but the actions taken by Republicans drove us down the path towards recession.

The recession started in March 2001. What did they do to cause that?

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http://www.nber.org/cycles.html

Everyone who knows anything about economics knows that putting money in the hands of people that will spend it.

Or in the hands of people that will use it to start/expand business.

What money was given to unprofitable corporations?

There were a bunch of unprofitable "green energy" companies that got money/loan guarantees.​

So these corporations already holding lies of money will now expand? Expansion is tax deductible. Those companies not being able to afford it aren't paying the top corporate rate. Giving money to companies already holding pile of money will do sghit accept run us further in debt.

There was money set aside in the ACA to provide loan guarantees to green companies with promising ideas but short on funding. They were risky. But the idea was to give them a chance because of the potential rewards of reducing emissions which is good for the country. But hey, you righties hate your children & don't believe in global warming.

So these corporations already holding lies of money will now expand?

Well, they are holding a lot of money overseas at the moment.
Why are they doing that?
Are they more likely to expand when they can keep 80% of the new earnings, or when they can keep 65%?

Expansion is tax deductible.

Does potential expansion stop when regulatory attacks are ongoing and expected to increase in the future?

Those companies not being able to afford it aren't paying the top corporate rate.

Does immediate, full expensing make business investment more affordable?

They were risky. But the idea was to give them a chance because of the potential rewards of reducing emissions which is good for the country.

We could reduce emissions much more efficiently and actually add useful amounts of reliable energy by expanding our nuclear reactors. Why are greens more afraid of nuclear than of CO2?
Is it because they hate their children?

Corps are hording money in the US as well as overseas.

They keep the money overseas because of a tax break given to them earlier. End that break & it will come back.

But hey, your orange buddy will give them a huge tax cut to bring it back and give them incentives to invest overseas.

Will corps moe likely to expand when they get a 35% break or a20% break. At the end of every year, bean counters look & see how much they should spend to avoid a 35% tax. Now they will be less likely to do so if they just get a 20% break.

Nuclear energy is the most subsidized for of power generation. You have no clue what do do with the waste. Wait until these plants need to be torn down. See the costs then. Leyts ask Japan about the wonders of nucklear power. Heck, that radiation drigfeted across the US.

The sun rains down enough energy during the noon time hour to power the entire planet for a year. But hey, lets not fucking use it, right? Lets create a poison that can not be destroyed & place it all across the US where an earthquake or terrorist could release it killing thousands,.

The sun rains down enough energy during the noon time hour to power the entire planet for a year

So Einstein how do you store it?

Batteries.

 

[RealDave]

I wonder how many of these small town coal mining, OPID using moron's are gonna love the billions Trump is giving to them in tax breaks, because we all know they're all secretly millionaires and just don't know it.

The middle class are getting a tax cut too moron.

So you are happy yopu might get a few hundred dollars while we borrow a trillion to hive the Trump's tens of millions of dollars.

Do you think a man that imports the shit he sells & imports labor for his resorts is going to expand & create jobs? If o,. tyou are truly dumber than shit.

Trumps trillion, compared to Obama's 10 trillion. Just shut the hell up.

Another asshole blaming all that debt on Obama.
You think this is the only deficit?
Furthermore of you had a fucking brain you would read & find out twhat generated that debt under Obama. Most not due to Obama actions at all.

 

[jknowgood]

I wonder how many of these small town coal mining, OPID using moron's are gonna love the billions Trump is giving to them in tax breaks, because we all know they're all secretly millionaires and just don't know it.

The middle class are getting a tax cut too moron.

So you are happy yopu might get a few hundred dollars while we borrow a trillion to hive the Trump's tens of millions of dollars.

Do you think a man that imports the shit he sells & imports labor for his resorts is going to expand & create jobs? If o,. tyou are truly dumber than shit.

Trumps trillion, compared to Obama's 10 trillion. Just shut the hell up.

Another asshole blaming all that debt on Obama.
You think this is the only deficit?
Furthermore of you had a fucking brain you would read & find out twhat generated that debt under Obama. Most not due to Obama actions at all.

Have you read everything that is is the new tax bill?

 

[RealDave]

I wonder how many of these small town coal mining, OPID using moron's are gonna love the billions Trump is giving to them in tax breaks, because we all know they're all secretly millionaires and just don't know it.

The middle class are getting a tax cut too moron.

So you are happy yopu might get a few hundred dollars while we borrow a trillion to hive the Trump's tens of millions of dollars.

Do you think a man that imports the shit he sells & imports labor for his resorts is going to expand & create jobs? If o,. tyou are truly dumber than shit.

The CBO used the growth rate of the Obama administration to make their projections, repeat after me, tax cuts do not decrease tax revenue and they never have.

Eliminate all taxes. The government will be flush with money. Right wing thinking at its best.

 

[RealDave]

I wonder how many of these small town coal mining, OPID using moron's are gonna love the billions Trump is giving to them in tax breaks, because we all know they're all secretly millionaires and just don't know it.

The middle class are getting a tax cut too moron.

So you are happy yopu might get a few hundred dollars while we borrow a trillion to hive the Trump's tens of millions of dollars.

Do you think a man that imports the shit he sells & imports labor for his resorts is going to expand & create jobs? If o,. tyou are truly dumber than shit.

Trumps trillion, compared to Obama's 10 trillion. Just shut the hell up.

Another asshole blaming all that debt on Obama.
You think this is the only deficit?
Furthermore of you had a fucking brain you would read & find out twhat generated that debt under Obama. Most not due to Obama actions at all.

Have you read everything that is is the new tax bill?

Nope. Are we allowed yet?

 

[jknowgood]

The middle class are getting a tax cut too moron.

So you are happy yopu might get a few hundred dollars while we borrow a trillion to hive the Trump's tens of millions of dollars.

Do you think a man that imports the shit he sells & imports labor for his resorts is going to expand & create jobs? If o,. tyou are truly dumber than shit.

Trumps trillion, compared to Obama's 10 trillion. Just shut the hell up.

Another asshole blaming all that debt on Obama.
You think this is the only deficit?
Furthermore of you had a fucking brain you would read & find out twhat generated that debt under Obama. Most not due to Obama actions at all.

Have you read everything that is is the new tax bill?

Nope. Are we allowed yet?

So you are stating all the what you are saying facts on talking points?

 

[RealDave]

So you are happy yopu might get a few hundred dollars while we borrow a trillion to hive the Trump's tens of millions of dollars.

Do you think a man that imports the shit he sells & imports labor for his resorts is going to expand & create jobs? If o,. tyou are truly dumber than shit.

Trumps trillion, compared to Obama's 10 trillion. Just shut the hell up.

Another asshole blaming all that debt on Obama.
You think this is the only deficit?
Furthermore of you had a fucking brain you would read & find out twhat generated that debt under Obama. Most not due to Obama actions at all.

Have you read everything that is is the new tax bill?

Nope. Are we allowed yet?

So you are stating all the what you are saying facts on talking points?

I read.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

We had a balanced budget. Period. What changed?

The Internet Bubble popped.
It was in all the papers.

You can pull out excuse after excuse but the actions taken by Republicans drove us down the path towards recession.

The recession started in March 2001. What did they do to cause that?

View attachment 164082

http://www.nber.org/cycles.html

Everyone who knows anything about economics knows that putting money in the hands of people that will spend it.

Or in the hands of people that will use it to start/expand business.

What money was given to unprofitable corporations?

There were a bunch of unprofitable "green energy" companies that got money/loan guarantees.​

So these corporations already holding lies of money will now expand? Expansion is tax deductible. Those companies not being able to afford it aren't paying the top corporate rate. Giving money to companies already holding pile of money will do sghit accept run us further in debt.

There was money set aside in the ACA to provide loan guarantees to green companies with promising ideas but short on funding. They were risky. But the idea was to give them a chance because of the potential rewards of reducing emissions which is good for the country. But hey, you righties hate your children & don't believe in global warming.

So these corporations already holding lies of money will now expand?

Well, they are holding a lot of money overseas at the moment.
Why are they doing that?
Are they more likely to expand when they can keep 80% of the new earnings, or when they can keep 65%?

Expansion is tax deductible.

Does potential expansion stop when regulatory attacks are ongoing and expected to increase in the future?

Those companies not being able to afford it aren't paying the top corporate rate.

Does immediate, full expensing make business investment more affordable?

They were risky. But the idea was to give them a chance because of the potential rewards of reducing emissions which is good for the country.

We could reduce emissions much more efficiently and actually add useful amounts of reliable energy by expanding our nuclear reactors. Why are greens more afraid of nuclear than of CO2?
Is it because they hate their children?

Corps are hording money in the US as well as overseas.

They keep the money overseas because of a tax break given to them earlier. End that break & it will come back.

But hey, your orange buddy will give them a huge tax cut to bring it back and give them incentives to invest overseas.

Will corps moe likely to expand when they get a 35% break or a20% break. At the end of every year, bean counters look & see how much they should spend to avoid a 35% tax. Now they will be less likely to do so if they just get a 20% break.

Nuclear energy is the most subsidized for of power generation. You have no clue what do do with the waste. Wait until these plants need to be torn down. See the costs then. Leyts ask Japan about the wonders of nucklear power. Heck, that radiation drigfeted across the US.

The sun rains down enough energy during the noon time hour to power the entire planet for a year. But hey, lets not fucking use it, right? Lets create a poison that can not be destroyed & place it all across the US where an earthquake or terrorist could release it killing thousands,.

They keep the money overseas because of a tax break given to them earlier. End that break & it will come back.

What tax break were they given earlier?

But hey, your orange buddy will give them a huge tax cut to bring it back and give them incentives to invest overseas.

They already invest their overseas money overseas.

Will corps moe likely to expand when they get a 35% break or a20% break.

Will they be more likely to invest to make $650,000 or to make $800,000? Hmmmmm....

Nuclear energy is the most subsidized for of power generation.

Subsidized how?
Do you mean the fees the government collects for waste storage.....without providing storage?

You have no clue what do do with the waste.

Reprocess it. Store it.

Reliable large scale energy with no CO2. For the children.

The sun rains down enough energy during the noon time hour to power the entire planet for a year.

Yes, there's plenty of low density, expensive energy available.

But hey, lets not fucking use it, right?

You can use it. Even if it's expensive and unreliable.

Lets create a poison that can not be destroyed & place it all across the US where an earthquake or terrorist could release it

I agree, Harry Reid really fucked things up.

1) The tax break that said their income tax on overseas profits did not need paid until they bring them home. So they don't bring them back & keep investing overseas. I would think an economic expert like you would have known this but evidently you are not the expert you think you are.

2) You are too stupid to get my point. Not surprising though. I was talking about one example of v=how corps decide when to expand or buy equipment. If you ever ran a business, you would understand.

#3) Store it,. Yep lets have storage areas containing a substance that would kill thousands if it was exposed. Msybe you can fire up Yucca Mountain so we can transport this shit accross the country because trains never derail. No CO2 but the risk of radiation. Good thinking.

#4 Solar is becoming cheaper & cheaper. No fuel to buy. no emissions. You righties get pissed off because you asswipes haven't figured a way to charge people for the sunlight. If corporations can't profit, you morons haste it.

The tax break that said their income tax on overseas profits did not need paid until they bring them home.

Sounds awful.

So they don't bring them back & keep investing overseas.

If we went to a territorial system, like every other major economy,
we'd end the tax incentive to keep earnings overseas.

You are too stupid to get my point. Not surprising though.

Your point was corporations prefer earning $650,000 in profit to earning $800,000 in profit.
Why don't you expand on your brilliant point. DERP!

Store it,. Yep lets have storage areas containing a substance that would kill thousands if it was exposed.

It's currently stored all over the country. Reid stopped it from being stored in only one site.
What an a-hole.

Msybe you can fire up Yucca Mountain so we can transport this shit accross the country because trains never derail.

Have you seen the spent fuel shipping containers?

Solar is becoming cheaper & cheaper. No fuel to buy. no emissions.

No power at night, when it's cloudy, when it snows.

 

[jknowgood]

Trumps trillion, compared to Obama's 10 trillion. Just shut the hell up.

Another asshole blaming all that debt on Obama.
You think this is the only deficit?
Furthermore of you had a fucking brain you would read & find out twhat generated that debt under Obama. Most not due to Obama actions at all.

Have you read everything that is is the new tax bill?

Nope. Are we allowed yet?

So you are stating all the what you are saying facts on talking points?

I read.

Yes you do, liberal talking points.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

El Cheeto said he wants to spend a trillion dollars on infrastructure.

A proven way to boost the economy by spreading money to factories & Middle Class workers while giving America improved bridges, highways, airports, water & sewer systems, electrical grid, etc. The big question was how to pay for it.

Well The Republicans & Trump just spent a trillion dollars to give money to the wealthy & profitable corporations. A proven piss poor way to boost the economy.

We know exactly what Republicans do - kiss the ass of their donors while fucking over the American people.

Let us not forget that when George W Bush took office we had a balanced budget. The CBO said we are on track to pay down the debt. Then came the series of unfunded tax cuts.

We were on a path of reducing the deficits with steady economic growth & a long string pf positive monthly job gains.

We already saw that string of job gains ended. Now the Republicans , who can't fricken learn, repeat the tax cut approach.

Yep, those Republicans just passed a bill that put us on a path to yet another conomic disaster. Thewreathy will survive just fine like they did with the Bush recession. We wuill ge fucked once again. Jobs lost, homes lost, opportunities gone for our chuldren.

For what? Those that elect Republicas are justy plasin assholes & contributors.

Well The Republicans & Trump just spent a trillion dollars to give money to the wealthy & profitable corporations. A proven piss poor way to boost the economy.

How much did Obama give to the poor & unprofitable corporations?
His weak recovery showed he had a piss poor way to boost the economy.

Let us not forget that when George W Bush took office we had a balanced budget.

Yeah, the Internet Bubble was cool.
Can you see when it started deflating?

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We had a balanced budget. Period. What changed? Tax cut after tax cut at a time of war. All unfunded. You can pull out excuse after excuse but the actions taken by Republicans drove us down the path towards recession.

Everyone who knows anything about economics knows that putting money in the hands of people that will spend it. That is what Obama did with the stimulus bill. A bill that was 38% tax breaks & tax cuts. Directed at working Americans.

What money was given to unprofitable corporations?

But hey, you think we should only give money to corporations that don't need it and pile it on to those thast donlt? Really? And you claim to know economics?

Tax cuts don't wreck the budget......politicians spending more money than they are given wrecks the budget......cutting spending is what needs to happen, not giving corrupt, greedy, thieving politicians more money to waste.


YOu guys never answer this simple question.....please...try to answer it this time...

If you had a money manager who you gave your money to invest....and he came back to you and said that not only did he lose all of your money, wasting it on things that didn't give you a return on your investment......but he put you in debt twice the amount you had given him....but had himself become a millionaire off of what you paid him....

Why would you give this guy one more penny?

Can you answer that question Realdave? Can you try at least a little to explain your answer?

Making a profit was not the goal.

The goal was to help a company develop the next great product. A product that would help reduce emissions.

The goal was to help a company develop the next great product. A product that would help reduce emissions.

We already have no emissions nuclear.
And you can build one huge plant that can run 24-7-365, instead of millions of units that only generate power a fraction of the time.

 

[2aguy]

El Cheeto said he wants to spend a trillion dollars on infrastructure.

A proven way to boost the economy by spreading money to factories & Middle Class workers while giving America improved bridges, highways, airports, water & sewer systems, electrical grid, etc. The big question was how to pay for it.

Well The Republicans & Trump just spent a trillion dollars to give money to the wealthy & profitable corporations. A proven piss poor way to boost the economy.

We know exactly what Republicans do - kiss the ass of their donors while fucking over the American people.

Let us not forget that when George W Bush took office we had a balanced budget. The CBO said we are on track to pay down the debt. Then came the series of unfunded tax cuts.

We were on a path of reducing the deficits with steady economic growth & a long string pf positive monthly job gains.

We already saw that string of job gains ended. Now the Republicans , who can't fricken learn, repeat the tax cut approach.

Yep, those Republicans just passed a bill that put us on a path to yet another conomic disaster. Thewreathy will survive just fine like they did with the Bush recession. We wuill ge fucked once again. Jobs lost, homes lost, opportunities gone for our chuldren.

For what? Those that elect Republicas are justy plasin assholes & contributors.

This is easy...letting people who earn the money keep the money......since any infrastructure project is going to be used to line the pockets of corrupt, greedy politicians, and their minions......and they will use the project to steal our money through jacking up the cost of the project......it is better to let Americans keep their money than to send it to Washington.....

So that is the best answer out there...

You voted for a trillion dollar investment by Trump. Whose pockets is he lining? You approved of that.

But heyt, fuck our infrastructure, right. We don't meed no stinkin bridges, etc.

He was one of two choices......the other choice is a thief and a criminal....Trump has already cut government regulations and hasn't hired nearly as many mooches as other Presidents.

You still didn't answer the question.

 

[RealDave]

So these corporations already holding lies of money will now expand? Expansion is tax deductible. Those companies not being able to afford it aren't paying the top corporate rate. Giving money to companies already holding pile of money will do sghit accept run us further in debt.

There was money set aside in the ACA to provide loan guarantees to green companies with promising ideas but short on funding. They were risky. But the idea was to give them a chance because of the potential rewards of reducing emissions which is good for the country. But hey, you righties hate your children & don't believe in global warming.

So these corporations already holding lies of money will now expand?

Well, they are holding a lot of money overseas at the moment.
Why are they doing that?
Are they more likely to expand when they can keep 80% of the new earnings, or when they can keep 65%?

Expansion is tax deductible.

Does potential expansion stop when regulatory attacks are ongoing and expected to increase in the future?

Those companies not being able to afford it aren't paying the top corporate rate.

Does immediate, full expensing make business investment more affordable?

They were risky. But the idea was to give them a chance because of the potential rewards of reducing emissions which is good for the country.

We could reduce emissions much more efficiently and actually add useful amounts of reliable energy by expanding our nuclear reactors. Why are greens more afraid of nuclear than of CO2?
Is it because they hate their children?

Corps are hording money in the US as well as overseas.

They keep the money overseas because of a tax break given to them earlier. End that break & it will come back.

But hey, your orange buddy will give them a huge tax cut to bring it back and give them incentives to invest overseas.

Will corps moe likely to expand when they get a 35% break or a20% break. At the end of every year, bean counters look & see how much they should spend to avoid a 35% tax. Now they will be less likely to do so if they just get a 20% break.

Nuclear energy is the most subsidized for of power generation. You have no clue what do do with the waste. Wait until these plants need to be torn down. See the costs then. Leyts ask Japan about the wonders of nucklear power. Heck, that radiation drigfeted across the US.

The sun rains down enough energy during the noon time hour to power the entire planet for a year. But hey, lets not fucking use it, right? Lets create a poison that can not be destroyed & place it all across the US where an earthquake or terrorist could release it killing thousands,.

They keep the money overseas because of a tax break given to them earlier. End that break & it will come back.

What tax break were they given earlier?

But hey, your orange buddy will give them a huge tax cut to bring it back and give them incentives to invest overseas.

They already invest their overseas money overseas.

Will corps moe likely to expand when they get a 35% break or a20% break.

Will they be more likely to invest to make $650,000 or to make $800,000? Hmmmmm....

Nuclear energy is the most subsidized for of power generation.

Subsidized how?
Do you mean the fees the government collects for waste storage.....without providing storage?

You have no clue what do do with the waste.

Reprocess it. Store it.

Reliable large scale energy with no CO2. For the children.

The sun rains down enough energy during the noon time hour to power the entire planet for a year.

Yes, there's plenty of low density, expensive energy available.

But hey, lets not fucking use it, right?

You can use it. Even if it's expensive and unreliable.

Lets create a poison that can not be destroyed & place it all across the US where an earthquake or terrorist could release it

I agree, Harry Reid really fucked things up.

1) The tax break that said their income tax on overseas profits did not need paid until they bring them home. So they don't bring them back & keep investing overseas. I would think an economic expert like you would have known this but evidently you are not the expert you think you are.

2) You are too stupid to get my point. Not surprising though. I was talking about one example of v=how corps decide when to expand or buy equipment. If you ever ran a business, you would understand.

#3) Store it,. Yep lets have storage areas containing a substance that would kill thousands if it was exposed. Msybe you can fire up Yucca Mountain so we can transport this shit accross the country because trains never derail. No CO2 but the risk of radiation. Good thinking.

#4 Solar is becoming cheaper & cheaper. No fuel to buy. no emissions. You righties get pissed off because you asswipes haven't figured a way to charge people for the sunlight. If corporations can't profit, you morons haste it.

The tax break that said their income tax on overseas profits did not need paid until they bring them home.

Sounds awful.

So they don't bring them back & keep investing overseas.

If we went to a territorial system, like every other major economy,
we'd end the tax incentive to keep earnings overseas.

You are too stupid to get my point. Not surprising though.

Your point was corporations prefer earning $650,000 in profit to earning $800,000 in profit.
Why don't you expand on your brilliant point. DERP!

Store it,. Yep lets have storage areas containing a substance that would kill thousands if it was exposed.

It's currently stored all over the country. Reid stopped it from being stored in only one site.
What an a-hole.

Msybe you can fire up Yucca Mountain so we can transport this shit accross the country because trains never derail.

Have you seen the spent fuel shipping containers?

Solar is becoming cheaper & cheaper. No fuel to buy. no emissions.

No power at night, when it's cloudy, when it snows.

It is awful. Your orange buddy has been crying about the that US corporate money overseas. If they were duie when made, there would be no incentive.

How many times do I need to make my pointy when you are too God damn stupid to get it. You with all your economy knowledge.

Corporations before would have made lots of profits but they decoded not to because of that 35% rate. Brilliant thinking.

They can ship those containers by your house & family. Heck, maybe they can store some in your basement. Chernobyl, TMI, Japan - noooooooo nothing can ever happen.

Yes solar panels still make electricity during cloudy weather, just not as much.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

So these corporations already holding lies of money will now expand?

Well, they are holding a lot of money overseas at the moment.
Why are they doing that?
Are they more likely to expand when they can keep 80% of the new earnings, or when they can keep 65%?

Expansion is tax deductible.

Does potential expansion stop when regulatory attacks are ongoing and expected to increase in the future?

Those companies not being able to afford it aren't paying the top corporate rate.

Does immediate, full expensing make business investment more affordable?

They were risky. But the idea was to give them a chance because of the potential rewards of reducing emissions which is good for the country.

We could reduce emissions much more efficiently and actually add useful amounts of reliable energy by expanding our nuclear reactors. Why are greens more afraid of nuclear than of CO2?
Is it because they hate their children?

Corps are hording money in the US as well as overseas.

They keep the money overseas because of a tax break given to them earlier. End that break & it will come back.

But hey, your orange buddy will give them a huge tax cut to bring it back and give them incentives to invest overseas.

Will corps moe likely to expand when they get a 35% break or a20% break. At the end of every year, bean counters look & see how much they should spend to avoid a 35% tax. Now they will be less likely to do so if they just get a 20% break.

Nuclear energy is the most subsidized for of power generation. You have no clue what do do with the waste. Wait until these plants need to be torn down. See the costs then. Leyts ask Japan about the wonders of nucklear power. Heck, that radiation drigfeted across the US.

The sun rains down enough energy during the noon time hour to power the entire planet for a year. But hey, lets not fucking use it, right? Lets create a poison that can not be destroyed & place it all across the US where an earthquake or terrorist could release it killing thousands,.

They keep the money overseas because of a tax break given to them earlier. End that break & it will come back.

What tax break were they given earlier?

But hey, your orange buddy will give them a huge tax cut to bring it back and give them incentives to invest overseas.

They already invest their overseas money overseas.

Will corps moe likely to expand when they get a 35% break or a20% break.

Will they be more likely to invest to make $650,000 or to make $800,000? Hmmmmm....

Nuclear energy is the most subsidized for of power generation.

Subsidized how?
Do you mean the fees the government collects for waste storage.....without providing storage?

You have no clue what do do with the waste.

Reprocess it. Store it.

Reliable large scale energy with no CO2. For the children.

The sun rains down enough energy during the noon time hour to power the entire planet for a year.

Yes, there's plenty of low density, expensive energy available.

But hey, lets not fucking use it, right?

You can use it. Even if it's expensive and unreliable.

Lets create a poison that can not be destroyed & place it all across the US where an earthquake or terrorist could release it

I agree, Harry Reid really fucked things up.

1) The tax break that said their income tax on overseas profits did not need paid until they bring them home. So they don't bring them back & keep investing overseas. I would think an economic expert like you would have known this but evidently you are not the expert you think you are.

2) You are too stupid to get my point. Not surprising though. I was talking about one example of v=how corps decide when to expand or buy equipment. If you ever ran a business, you would understand.

#3) Store it,. Yep lets have storage areas containing a substance that would kill thousands if it was exposed. Msybe you can fire up Yucca Mountain so we can transport this shit accross the country because trains never derail. No CO2 but the risk of radiation. Good thinking.

#4 Solar is becoming cheaper & cheaper. No fuel to buy. no emissions. You righties get pissed off because you asswipes haven't figured a way to charge people for the sunlight. If corporations can't profit, you morons haste it.

The tax break that said their income tax on overseas profits did not need paid until they bring them home.

Sounds awful.

So they don't bring them back & keep investing overseas.

If we went to a territorial system, like every other major economy,
we'd end the tax incentive to keep earnings overseas.

You are too stupid to get my point. Not surprising though.

Your point was corporations prefer earning $650,000 in profit to earning $800,000 in profit.
Why don't you expand on your brilliant point. DERP!

Store it,. Yep lets have storage areas containing a substance that would kill thousands if it was exposed.

It's currently stored all over the country. Reid stopped it from being stored in only one site.
What an a-hole.

Msybe you can fire up Yucca Mountain so we can transport this shit accross the country because trains never derail.

Have you seen the spent fuel shipping containers?

Solar is becoming cheaper & cheaper. No fuel to buy. no emissions.

No power at night, when it's cloudy, when it snows.

It is awful. Your orange buddy has been crying about the that US corporate money overseas. If they were duie when made, there would be no incentive.

How many times do I need to make my pointy when you are too God damn stupid to get it. You with all your economy knowledge.

Corporations before would have made lots of profits but they decoded not to because of that 35% rate. Brilliant thinking.

They can ship those containers by your house & family. Heck, maybe they can store some in your basement. Chernobyl, TMI, Japan - noooooooo nothing can ever happen.

Yes solar panels still make electricity during cloudy weather, just not as much.

It is awful. Your orange buddy has been crying about the that US corporate money overseas.

Many people have cried about that overseas money.

Corporations before would have made lots of profits but they decoded not to because of that 35% rate.

Between 35% and 20%, I know which is the better investment.

They can ship those containers by your house & family.

Sounds good.

Yes solar panels still make electricity during cloudy weather, just not as much.

It's a good thing our economy doesn't depend on steady, uninterrupted power.
No big deal when power supplied rises or falls by huge percentages over a short period......DERP!

 

[rightwinger]

The class envy thing really isn't working for you guys anymore. Americans want prosperity. Infrastructure improves with prosperity.

Then why hasn't it improved?

 

[DigitalDrifter]

This is typical of Dimocrats like the OP:

"give money to the wealthy & profitable corporations"

The government is not "giving" anyone anything. The money starts with the people who create the wealth. It's the people who "give" money to the government.
A tax cut, means you "give" less of YOUR money to the government.

Not this stupid argument again.

A company has 1 million in profits. Assume they pay the full rate.

Before tax cuts they would pay $350K

After Tax cuts they would pay $200K.

They now have $150K more due to the tax cut bill.

That is giving them $150K.

So quit playing semantics.

No, it's not "giving" them anything. It means the company will pay less.

 

[Norman]

El Cheeto said he wants to spend a trillion dollars on infrastructure.

A proven way to boost the economy by spreading money to factories & Middle Class workers while giving America improved bridges, highways, airports, water & sewer systems, electrical grid, etc. The big question was how to pay for it.

Well The Republicans & Trump just spent a trillion dollars to give money to the wealthy & profitable corporations. A proven piss poor way to boost the economy.

We know exactly what Republicans do - kiss the ass of their donors while fucking over the American people.

Let us not forget that when George W Bush took office we had a balanced budget. The CBO said we are on track to pay down the debt. Then came the series of unfunded tax cuts.

We were on a path of reducing the deficits with steady economic growth & a long string pf positive monthly job gains.

We already saw that string of job gains ended. Now the Republicans , who can't fricken learn, repeat the tax cut approach.

Yep, those Republicans just passed a bill that put us on a path to yet another conomic disaster. Thewreathy will survive just fine like they did with the Bush recession. We wuill ge fucked once again. Jobs lost, homes lost, opportunities gone for our chuldren.

For what? Those that elect Republicas are justy plasin assholes & contributors.

Trump has from the start made it clear he is up to spending about as much as democrats want on the wall.

So far no offers. Democrats don't want to invest in infrastructure.

 

[RealDave]

Well The Republicans & Trump just spent a trillion dollars to give money to the wealthy & profitable corporations.

When did they do that?

Tax cut bill. Increases deficit by a trillion. That is spending money.

You said they are giving money to the wealthy and profitable corporations. I didn't see that anywhere in there.

Tax cuts to the wealthy are there. Tax cuts to well off corporations are there. Are you blind or stupid?

 

[RealDave]

El Cheeto said he wants to spend a trillion dollars on infrastructure.

A proven way to boost the economy by spreading money to factories & Middle Class workers while giving America improved bridges, highways, airports, water & sewer systems, electrical grid, etc. The big question was how to pay for it.

Well The Republicans & Trump just spent a trillion dollars to give money to the wealthy & profitable corporations. A proven piss poor way to boost the economy.

We know exactly what Republicans do - kiss the ass of their donors while fucking over the American people.

Let us not forget that when George W Bush took office we had a balanced budget. The CBO said we are on track to pay down the debt. Then came the series of unfunded tax cuts.

We were on a path of reducing the deficits with steady economic growth & a long string pf positive monthly job gains.

We already saw that string of job gains ended. Now the Republicans , who can't fricken learn, repeat the tax cut approach.

Yep, those Republicans just passed a bill that put us on a path to yet another conomic disaster. Thewreathy will survive just fine like they did with the Bush recession. We wuill ge fucked once again. Jobs lost, homes lost, opportunities gone for our chuldren.

For what? Those that elect Republicas are justy plasin assholes & contributors.

Trump has from the start made it clear he is up to spending about as much as democrats want on the wall.

So far no offers. Democrats don't want to invest in infrastructure.

The Wall is not infrastructure.

Trump won't push infrastructure because there is no money to pay for it & he has already skyrocketed the debt.