Slade3200
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That’s a distorted narrative but I think you know that. They don’t side with outsiders over Americans, they side with plenty of million of other Americans who believe in helping people in need no matter where they are from. It’s a simple concept called compassionIsn’t it crazy that millions of Americans want to harm themselves and their loved ones so they can support criminals? That must blow your mindSo I guess we could say that a leader can be both a nationalist and practice internationalism at the same time. They aren’t necessarily opposites. Would you agree?The Korean War is a specific example. The Communist North Koreans indoctrinated their people with the lies that their enemies were imperial lap dogs
They were given massive material support from the Communists Soviet Union, for Ideological reasons, in fighting against the world leader of the Capitalist system, ie the US.
The communists Chinese, did both.
Vastly different nations, with vastly different cultures, and very importantly often CONFLICTING national interests, brought together by ideology to wage war against their ideological enemy,
the capitalist West.
Would you like another one?
Depends what you mean by internationalism.
Nationalism is putting the interests of you nation first. If you define Internationalism as NOT doing that, then indeed they are opposites.
Trump wants to limit immigration to benefit citizens of the American Nation.
American citizens by definition have a right to expect that national policy will be crafted for the benefit of national citizens.
Anyone that thinks the needs of the caravan for say, some reason off "fairness" or "charity" is more important that the self interests of Americans, or the Right of Americans to define America,
is being an Internationalist and opposing the very bedrock of Nationalism.
Trump is appealing to the very rational human self-interest of putting the welfare of oneself and ones' family, community and country ahead of that of foreign nations.
The Progs do the reverse. They insist that we harm ourselves in order to support total strangers that hate us.
The progressives in question, put their idea of "fairness" ahead of the rights of American citizens.
They consider NATIONALISM to be a bad thing, and FAIRNESS, ie treating the "refugess" who have more need, generously at the expense of Americans who have so much more and are just being greedy in their desire to keep it.
They see NATIONALISM as the OPPOSITE of INTERNATIONALISM, or GLOBALISM,
and side with outsiders against their fellow Americans.