Why America needs immigrants

[rdean]

So I'm looking at the engineering department I work in. This is how it breaks down.

three Chinese men

one Chinese woman

one woman from Bolivia

one man from Russia

three men from Mexico

one woman from Mexico

one American white male Republican whose parents paid for his education

one American white male Democrat who used the GI bill he earned and took out loans he paid off

That's it.

Fortunately, I'm in a Blue State. Red States are even worse.



And what Obama actually said was that education should be available to everyone in the country. He mentioned Technical schools and Jr. Colleges.

Republicans make fun of education. This is why we need immigrants. You can bet, the children of immigrants will also want to go to school. Unlike the children of Republicans who have been taught to mock education.

 

[g5000]

About 40 percent of our Ph.D. scientists and engineers were born in another country, Orrenius writes. People tend to focus on illegal or low-skilled immigration when discussing immigrants and often do not recognize the tremendous contribution of high-skilled immigrants.

Dallas Federal Reserve

A new study, released last week, throws new information into the debate over foreign workers who arrive in the U.S. on such specialty visas.

The report, based on telephone surveys with 2,054 companies and projections by researchers at the University of California at Berkeley and Duke University, says about 25 percent of the technology and engineering companies launched in the U.S. in the past decade had at least one foreign-born founder.

Immigrants Become Founding Fathers

These immigrant founders tended to be highly educated—96 percent held bachelor’s degrees and 74 percent held graduate or postgraduate degrees, with 75 percent of these degrees in science, technology, engineering, and mathematics-related fields. The vast majority of these company founders didn’t come to the United States as entrepreneurs 52 percent came to study, 40 percent came to work, and 5.5 percent came for family reasons. Only 1.6 percent came to start companies in America.

Even though these founders immigrated for other purposes initially, they typically started their companies just 13.25 years after arriving in the United States. And, rather than settling in well-established immigrant gateways, such as New York or Los Angeles, they moved to a diverse group of tech centers across the country and helped fuel their growth.

http://www.kauffman.org/uploadedFiles/WadhwaTBook09.pdf

While 23 percent of the nation's cooks and 20 percent of its janitors were immigrants in 2000, 27 percent of new computer-software engineers were also immigrants, according to a recent Migration Policy Institute study.

Indeed, the more technically educated the group, the more likely immigrants are to be overrepresented in it. While the foreign born make up 15 percent of the overall workforce, according to the 2000 census, they constitute approximately 17 percent of those with a bachelor's degree in science and engineering occupations, 29 percent of those with a master's degree, and 39 percent of those with a doctoral degree.

As US nears milestone, a rising mix of immigrants - CSMonitor.com



"[T]he more technically educated the group, the more likely immigrants are to be overrepresented in it."

 

[Zander]

The US Education system is failing because teachers unions make education about the teachers, not the students. Now guess which party is in bed with the teachers unions? RDerp is too stupid to connect the dots....

 

[dannyboys]

So I'm looking at the engineering department I work in. This is how it breaks down.

three Chinese men

one Chinese woman

one woman from Bolivia

one man from Russia

three men from Mexico

one woman from Mexico

one American white male Republican whose parents paid for his education

one American white male Democrat who used the GI bill he earned and took out loans he paid off

That's it.

Fortunately, I'm in a Blue State. Red States are even worse.



And what Obama actually said was that education should be available to everyone in the country. He mentioned Technical schools and Jr. Colleges.

Republicans make fun of education. This is why we need immigrants. You can bet, the children of immigrants will also want to go to school. Unlike the children of Republicans who have been taught to mock education.

You're an idiot!
Ya that's right. REPs "mock" education. REPS "hate" women. I guess the women didn't get the memo. More women voted last week than men............for fucking REPS!!!!!!!!!!!!
Go ask your classmates whether they are DEMS or REPs.
You'll have 11 REPs and 1 DEM.
The reason the US grew into the most prosperous powerful nation in world history is b/c of the REPs.
America's classrooms today are full of LIB teachers protected by LIB unions. And what are these teachers doing? 'Streaming' functionally illiterate kids through school.
Ever heard the phrase: "The failing education system"? The US education system is a fucking joke worldwide.
BTW. This "engineering department" you work in. Are you the one who comes in after class to do the sweeping?

 

[Dogmaphobe]

I don't see the issue as one of whether we need immigrants or do not need immigrants, but whether or not we benefit from those who do immigrate. My science classes at school were a perfect illustration in how we do benefit in that our country has long been a destination for the best and brightest from other countries who want to be part of the American way. When they pass on their intelligence and their values to their children, we benefit further.


I would point to Britain, Sweden, Belgium and other European countries as to the down side of immigration, for it has happened too fast, they have imported huge numbers of the very worst instead of very best, and too many of these people want nothing to do with European ways. They have even been allowed to form no-go zones in European cities where they continue their primitive ways.

It's really more about the quality of the individual immigrant and the desire to assimilate that is the key.

 

[Amazon]

Excellent, g5000!!!

What a lot of folks here don't understand is that we all came from immigrant stock.

 

[dannyboys]

The US can not cope with millions of illiterate illegals sneaking into the country.
YES YES the DNC wants to replace the negro vote....which has turned out to be unreliable with the Hispanic vote.
The Makers can only support so many millions of people on food stamps.
There is a limit.
Anyone who believes if enough Hispanics buy enough 'Big Gulps' a day and a fraction of those sales goes into the Federal tax coffers that will insure the Gov. can keep handing out foods stamps to millions of people is fucking deluded.

 

[BluesLegend]

Virtually none of the millions of illegals in this country qualify to immigrate here legally, they don't meet the requirements. They are a net drain on our resources just as they were proven to be a net drain on our resources when Reagan approved the last amnesty.

 

[Amazon]

The US can not cope with millions of illiterate illegals sneaking into the country.
YES YES the DNC wants to replace the negro vote....which has turned out to be unreliable with the Hispanic vote.
The Makers can only support so many millions of people on food stamps.
There is a limit.
Anyone who believes if enough Hispanics buy enough 'Big Gulps' a day and a fraction of those sales goes into the Federal tax coffers that will insure the Gov. can keep handing out foods stamps to millions of people is fucking deluded.

Who is it that you think are the "Makers?"

 

[Amazon]

Are they the ones who make things up?

 

[dannyboys]

Excellent, g5000!!!

What a lot of folks here don't understand is that we all came from immigrant stock.

Ya. And not a fucking one of them waddled up to the local Government office looking for/demanding a hand-out.
You worked for your bread and then you died.
That referred to as 'life' brother.
All you LIB pussies here would be wailing and screaming if an illegal took your job b/c he offered to do it better than you for half the price. Now that would only apply to those of you you are currently employed at a 'McJob.
There isn't one illegal Hispanic in ten thousand with an education that would enable him/her to actually compete in todays high tech world. Of those who can I say that's great! Now get to the back of the line like every other person who is not willing to break the law to enter the country. There are currently thousands of highly qualified/educated people who are patiently waiting in line waiting their turn. I'd hire them in a heart-beat.
I'd NEVER hire someone who entered the country illegally under any circumstance.

 

[dannyboys]

The US can not cope with millions of illiterate illegals sneaking into the country.
YES YES the DNC wants to replace the negro vote....which has turned out to be unreliable with the Hispanic vote.
The Makers can only support so many millions of people on food stamps.
There is a limit.
Anyone who believes if enough Hispanics buy enough 'Big Gulps' a day and a fraction of those sales goes into the Federal tax coffers that will insure the Gov. can keep handing out foods stamps to millions of people is fucking deluded.

Who is it that you think are the "Makers?"

The 'Makers' are the people who 'MAKE' enough money for the Government to collect Federal income tax from.
Is that clear enough for you?

 

[Mac1958]

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Is there anyone here who is against legal immigration?

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[rdean]

The US can not cope with millions of illiterate illegals sneaking into the country.
YES YES the DNC wants to replace the negro vote....which has turned out to be unreliable with the Hispanic vote.
The Makers can only support so many millions of people on food stamps.
There is a limit.
Anyone who believes if enough Hispanics buy enough 'Big Gulps' a day and a fraction of those sales goes into the Federal tax coffers that will insure the Gov. can keep handing out foods stamps to millions of people is fucking deluded.

Who is it that you think are the "Makers?"

The 'Makers' are the people who 'MAKE' enough money for the Government to collect Federal income tax from.
Is that clear enough for you?

Yea, really clear:

Red States Are Welfare Queens - Business Insider

As it turns out, it is red states that are overwhelmingly the Welfare Queen States. Yes, that's right. Red States — the ones governed by folks who think government is too big and spending needs to be cut — are a net drain on the economy, taking in more federal spending than they pay out in federal taxes. They talk a good game, but stick Blue States with the bill.

 

[Amazon]

You're right, rdeen, and it isn't that hard to figure out.

Red states mistakenly believe that they can simultaneously rid themselves of unions, cut wages and welfare. But the lower the wages, the higher the welfare, and the more taxes are needed.

These are incompatible objectives.

 

[dannyboys]

You're right, rdeen, and it isn't that hard to figure out.

Red states mistakenly believe that they can simultaneously rid themselves of unions, cut wages and welfare. But the lower the wages, the higher the welfare, and the more taxes are needed.

These are incompatible objectives.

So now you'll explain why these wonderful blue states full of LIBS got their asses handed to them last week right?.........By the voters in these Blue states.

 

[whitehall]

America needs a better education system. It's obvious that the radical left isn't aware of the difference between "immigrant" and illegal criminal alien.

 

[Amazon]

Ya. And not a fucking one of them waddled up to the local Government office looking for/demanding a hand-out.
You worked for your bread and then you died.
That referred to as 'life' brother.
All you LIB pussies here would be wailing and screaming if an illegal took your job b/c he offered to do it better than you for half the price. Now that would only apply to those of you you are currently employed at a 'McJob.
There isn't one illegal Hispanic in ten thousand with an education that would enable him/her to actually compete in todays high tech world. Of those who can I say that's great! Now get to the back of the line like every other person who is not willing to break the law to enter the country. There are currently thousands of highly qualified/educated people who are patiently waiting in line waiting their turn. I'd hire them in a heart-beat.
I'd NEVER hire someone who entered the country illegally under any circumstance.

61% of welfare recipients are white.

Census.gov

 

[rdean]

You're right, rdeen, and it isn't that hard to figure out.

Red states mistakenly believe that they can simultaneously rid themselves of unions, cut wages and welfare. But the lower the wages, the higher the welfare, and the more taxes are needed.

These are incompatible objectives.

So now you'll explain why these wonderful blue states full of LIBS got their asses handed to them last week right?.........By the voters in these Blue states.

Two thirds didn't vote. How can you not know that.
And yet, get this, in states where Obama policies were on the ballot, like Nebraska and Arkansas, policies like raising the minimum wage and background checks, these policies passed by double digits in every state. And GOP policies like "personhood" failed.
So the same people that voted against Obama voted FOR his policies. How do you explain that?
I know:
Ebola
Isis
and disease ridden refugee children running from danger

The day after the election, no stories on Ebola.
Drones killed Isis leaders.
Those children were slandered by the GOP.

Yet, they "WON". Won what? Since all their policies fail, what will they do different. Guess we'll find out.

 

[rdean]

America needs a better education system. It's obvious that the radical left isn't aware of the difference between "immigrant" and illegal criminal alien.

Education to the right is no education at all.