Why did Trump lose?

[JoeB131]

2. IMHO there is no good reason for 30,000,000 more voters in 2020 than in 2016, both elections were important to both parties. 2020 was the highest turnout for a presidential election in history. It just looks like massive voter fraud.

Sure there was....

First, voter participation had actually declined or stayed flat from 2008 to 2016. It was really obvious who was going to win (or so people thought in 2016) and people just kind of stayed home if there wasn't anything else going on.

Second, it wasn't 30 million more voters. Biden got 15 million more votes than Hillary, Trump got 11 million more votes than he did in 2016, and third party candidates dropped by 2 million votes, so the vote total was actually closer to a 24MM increase.

3. I've seen many elections, and there always is voter fraud in the big cities, but in 2020 it was off the charts since the mail-in votes were soooooo easy to fake.

Except every investigation has proven otherwise. Every recount, every audit found that the votes were accurate.

 

[JoeB131]

Give us an example of what you mean by compassion. What did you want him to do, fake cry for the people that died? You people love those professional baby kissing politicians. You want showmen instead of representatives.

Actually, what I'd like to see is empathy, but since Trump is a sociopath and a narcissist, he isn't capable of that.

Every word out of his mouth is how this has been unfair to HIM.

Not to people who lost loved ones, jobs, businesses, etc.

 

[JoeB131]

There was nothing he could do about the virus so campaigning didn't take his time away from anything. Trump only downplayed masks when everybody else was, like Piglosi who told people to come to Chinatown, or when DeBlasio encouraged shopping and riding the subway.

No, he was downplaying masks all the way up until he caught it, and holding super-spreader events.

He made mask wearing part of the culture war, which it never should have been.

 

[Claudette]

I have noted that opinions differ and solicit your speculations.

Which of the following, if any, approximate what you suspect is the major reason:

1. The election merely reflected his having lost the popular vote in 2016 and the public sentiment remaining consistent, as he was relentlessly unpopular in survey after survey throughout his tenure.
2. He repeatedly scoffed at and minimized the threat posed by a pandemic that resulted in over 20 million infections, over 350,000 deaths, and the strain on dedicated healthcare providers to the breaking point.
3. He was the victim of a vast, very mysterious conspiracy in which Republican governors, Republican secretaries of state, Republican attorneys general, Republican county clerks, and Republican judges throughout the land were decisively complicit.
4. He was beaten by a sleepy, senile, corrupt Chinese sock puppet whom the American electorate deemed to be decidedly superior.

I hope all who entertain theories will share their analyses while refraining from vituperation, revilement, and diversionary ploys.

Civil, dispassionate discussion and sprightly discourse concerning causative factors, one might hope, ensue.

While the hardcore 30 or so percent (xenophobes) of the republican party supported Trump the democrats and independents in this country did not, so he lost.

LMAO I'm an Independent and supported Trump and millions of others did as well. Only an idiot would vote for Biden and the crap he wants to do.

If you voted for that idiot you will be regretting it and it won't take long.

 

[schmidlap]

He sure is living in his own reality.

Not a reality-tv performer just on tv, a genuine fake through and through.

 

[surada]

He sure is living in his own reality.

Not a reality-tv performer just on tv, a genuine fake through and through.

Trump is a fake, and much, much worse.

 

[schmidlap]

LMAO I'm an Independent and supported Trump and millions of others did as well. Only an idiot would vote for Biden and the crap he wants to do.

If you voted for that idiot you will be regretting it and it won't take long.

Lashing out at the American electorate is futile. Most folks had enough of trumpery and are hopeful that the nation will recover.

Those who like to envision America continuing to decline can be ignored.

 

[Claudette]

LMAO I'm an Independent and supported Trump and millions of others did as well. Only an idiot would vote for Biden and the crap he wants to do.

If you voted for that idiot you will be regretting it and it won't take long.

Lashing out at the American electorate is futile. Most folks had enough of trumpery and are hopeful that the nation will recover.

Those who like to envision America continuing to decline can be ignored.

Nothing is futile. This election was stolen and there is plenty of proof out there. Hell Trump was leading in one state by 700,000 votes and lost that State. That means every vote that came in was a Biden vote. Now who the hell would believe that shit??

Oh and under Biden America will decline. Google and see a list of the shit that jack ass wants to do. You will be regretting your vote big time and it won't take long.

 

[schmidlap]

Trump is a fake, and much, much worse.

The degenerate's latest depraved attack on democracy was recorded. The documentation of his vile squirming is sickening, but it is a gift to presidential historians.

... Here was a desperate [Trump] alternately begging, pleading, cajoling and, yes, seeming to threaten a state official — and fellow Republican — by asking for a change in the outcome of an election that already had been recounted and then certified.

[Trump] was not arguing facts or offering evidence. Having failed time and again with multiple lawsuits brought by his campaign’s legal teams or their allies, all of which were rejected by the courts, Trump had nothing of substance to offer, just bluster and baseless claims that he has made nonstop since he lost. He was trolling with rumor, innuendo (and the muscle that comes with calling from the White House), attempting one more time to bully and intimidate Raffensperger...

Raffensperger has endured verbal abuse and threats to his safety throughout the entire process of counting, recounting and certifying Georgia’s results. He has stood firm, as he did once again on Saturday, pushing back politely and repeatedly saying that the president’s statements were incorrect.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-knows-no-limits-as-he-tries-to-overturn-the-election/2021/01/03/e192bf90-4e05-11eb-83e3-322644d82356_story.html

Secretary of State Raffensperger and his family have already been threatened by Trump goons. Decent, patriotic Americans must be especially concerned for their safety after this foul performance, as well as for the well-being of all public servants who refuse to be intimidated.

 

[schmidlap]

This election was stolen and there is plenty of proof out there.

The self-serving lies have been disposed of by dozens of judges across America, Republicans and even Trump appointees included.

The Trump cult can delude themselves with their self-serving fantasies, but they fizzle and collapse in the realm of evidence, reason, and common sense.

Lash out at the 51.33% of the American electorate if their exercising democracy makes you hysterical, but they were merely expressing a sentiment they had consistently registered for 4 years in survey after survey. The entirely predictable results should surprise no rational person.

 

[surada]

Trump is a fake, and much, much worse.

The degenerate's latest depraved attack on democracy was recorded. The documentation of his vile squirming is sickening, but it is a gift to presidential historians.

... Here was a desperate [Trump] alternately begging, pleading, cajoling and, yes, seeming to threaten a state official — and fellow Republican — by asking for a change in the outcome of an election that already had been recounted and then certified.

[Trump] was not arguing facts or offering evidence. Having failed time and again with multiple lawsuits brought by his campaign’s legal teams or their allies, all of which were rejected by the courts, Trump had nothing of substance to offer, just bluster and baseless claims that he has made nonstop since he lost. He was trolling with rumor, innuendo (and the muscle that comes with calling from the White House), attempting one more time to bully and intimidate Raffensperger...

Raffensperger has endured verbal abuse and threats to his safety throughout the entire process of counting, recounting and certifying Georgia’s results. He has stood firm, as he did once again on Saturday, pushing back politely and repeatedly saying that the president’s statements were incorrect.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-knows-no-limits-as-he-tries-to-overturn-the-election/2021/01/03/e192bf90-4e05-11eb-83e3-322644d82356_story.html

Secretary of State Raffensperger and his family have already been threatened by Trump goons. Decent, patriotic Americans must be especially concerned for their safety after this foul performance, as well as for the well-being of all public servants who refuse to be intimidated.

This extortion tactic was the same thing Trump did to the president of Ukraine.. He was impeached for that. Trump can't learn.

Trump is all about violence. He doesn't care who he harms.

 

[schmidlap]

Every recount, every audit found that the votes were accurate.

To deny that reality requires contriving a vast, clandestine conspiracy in which many, many Republican office holders and judges are complicit.

Such a nutty, paranoidal derangement is not something normal folks can swallow.

Biden clearly won, the American electorate, at its first opportunity, formally registering their disapprobation of the failed casino operator and faded reality-tv performer that they had evidenced in survey after survey for four years.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

This extortion tactic was the same thing Trump did to the president of Ukraine.. He was impeached for that. Trump can't learn.

Trump is all about violence. He doesn't care who he harms.

Except for the fact Trump never extorted anybody. The only person who extorted was the guy you voted for, and the only Russian collusion was the DNC and Hillary Clinton with the phony dossier.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Oh and under Biden America will decline. Google and see a list of the shit that jack ass wants to do. You will be regretting your vote big time and it won't take long.

Please. You know how dishonest leftists are and live in their own little world. The results of the upcoming Biden disaster they will blame on Trump his entire first term.

 

[Care4all]

This extortion tactic was the same thing Trump did to the president of Ukraine.. He was impeached for that. Trump can't learn.

Trump is all about violence. He doesn't care who he harms.

Except for the fact Trump never extorted anybody. The only person who extorted was the guy you voted for, and the only Russian collusion was the DNC and Hillary Clinton with the phony dossier.

Except, that's not true.....

 

[surada]

This extortion tactic was the same thing Trump did to the president of Ukraine.. He was impeached for that. Trump can't learn.

Trump is all about violence. He doesn't care who he harms.

Except for the fact Trump never extorted anybody. The only person who extorted was the guy you voted for, and the only Russian collusion was the DNC and Hillary Clinton with the phony dossier.

Yes, he did.. He withheld money allocated by Congress to force the president of Ukraine to provide dirt on Biden. Trump is a criminal.. Your kind of guy?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

No, he was downplaying masks all the way up until he caught it, and holding super-spreader events.

He made mask wearing part of the culture war, which it never should have been.

Why do you keep repeating the same lies over and over again when it's been proven they are lies? In commie cities all across the country where they virtually shut nearly everything down, are having the same problems as American cities that didn't go nearly that far.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Yes, he did.. He withheld money allocated by Congress to force the president of Ukraine to provide dirt on Biden. Trump is a criminal.. Your kind of guy?

He withheld money to have the new President checked out, and the money was delivered before it expired. Not once did he ever give Zelinksy an ultimatum. He asked him for a favor. Look up the word " favor" in the dictionary.

 

[Flash]

Trump did not lose.

China Joe's Chinese buddies and the Democrat Dirty Tricks Department stole the election from the American people.

The Chinese created a virus that destroyed the world's economy and the filthy Democrats used the ensuing pandemic to created fraudulent mail in ballots in Democrat controlled swing voting districts.

The Chinese won because now that have their man in the White House just like they did during the Worthless Negro/China Joe administration and the Democrats won because now they can make good progress towards turning America into a Socialist shithole.

However, America lost.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Actually, what I'd like to see is empathy, but since Trump is a sociopath and a narcissist, he isn't capable of that.

Every word out of his mouth is how this has been unfair to HIM.

Not to people who lost loved ones, jobs, businesses, etc.

It was President Trump who insisted the stimulus be 2K instead of 600 bucks. It was the commies who refused to take all the pork out of the stimulus bill thus stalling it for several months. It was Trump insisting the commies allow their businesses to open up, and children to go to their schools. It's Democrats who fought him all the way. It was the commies who allowed troublemakers to destroy their businesses and didn't make any attempt to stop them, while President Trump offered assistance they refused to accept.

So who's not showing empathy now?